Sorry-next time I'll look at all the posts before replying.Lee,I'll try your "include assets fix"-sounds like a good one.Even before trying it-feels like the right kind of Logic fix!! cheers David ps-OT-I can post a recent autoload,or rather,would be curious to see how others organize their Logic lives...any one else --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Lee Blaske <lblaske@...> wrote: > > OK, I think I've got things figured out. This solved my problem, at > least, and allowed me to record tracks past #65. > > What I needed to do was to uncheck "Include Assets" when naming a > session/project after opening a new one. That means you're going to > have to create and name a folder for your project, and then name and > put the session file within it. When I didn't have "Include Assets" > checked, LP8 asked me where I wanted to put my DAE audio files when I > got to channel 33, and again at 65 (and I assume it would do so at > 97, too). > > This completely fixes the problem over here. > > Lee Blaske > > > > On Nov 7, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Lee Blaske wrote: > > > > > Just saw your post, after I posted my problem. I'm having a similar > > problem, but my difficulties start with channels 33 and higher. > > > > Lee Blaske > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 10:24 AM, David G Burns wrote: > > > > > Thanks Mark-looked around and could only find project settings/ > > > recording/DAE recording > > > folder,where you can enter a location and "set".Under 7 there was > > > the option of "song > > > folder" versus "global",which seems to be gone now.I think it's a > > > deeper problem than that > > > because I get the tdm setup icon after hitting record on any track > > > above 64 and than the > > > bounce ball,and than Logic crashes and creates a crashed song > > > doc.I'm fearing that PT 7.4 > > > will be the cure,unless anyone else can confirm or deny my > > > glitch.Is anyone out there > > > running LP8 under TDM with 7.3.1 and can record on track 65 or > > > higher.I can't be the only > > > one here.... > > > holding my breath > > > David > > > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "ativity2003" <me@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If L8 allows it, did you REMOVE RECORD PATH before trying to > > record > > > > above track 64? This is in Audio Config in L7, so don't know > > > where it > > > > can be found in L8...anyway, for me, doing that in L7 always > > > corrected > > > > the problem you describe. > > > > > > > > best > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "David G Burns" <david@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Been with LP8 for a week or so,can't seem to be able to > > record to > > > > audio tracks 65 or higher > > > > > under tdm,simply crashes.Tried with virgin LP8 template as > > well as > > > > older LP7 ones.PT works > > > > > fine.dual G5 1.8,OSX 10.4.10,PT 7.3.1 cs4,TDM HD3 accel. > > > > > > > > > > Other misc annoyances-1-turning touch auto creates a duplicate > > > > track below in the arrange.. > > > > > 2-the mackie control defaults to viewing 16 rather than 8 > > > tracks,as > > > > though it thinks there are > > > > > two controllers,and shows the second one's tracks so there is an > > > > offset between what the > > > > > arrange shows as being on the control surface,and what is > > actually > > > > displayed on it.Being in > > > > > "single mode" works as expected though...any one else has > > this..?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Although I recently migrated to a Apogee/Symphony sollution, let me just chime in with my experiences regarding recording paths in L8. It seems that your autoload needs to have "No Audio Recording Path" selected under settings/recording for logic to "autodirect" your audio to the relevant folder. If something is selected there it defenitely goes there AND get's copied to the relevant project folder when you hit save. Defenitely not good if it, as in my case, ends up on the desktop, in terms of disc effiency and so forth... I ended up creating a whole new autoload to get back to "No Audio Recording Path". But then I heard from Jim F @ sonikmatter that all you need to do is open your autoload and uncheck "include assets" and save the autoload again! Now, how this relates to the DAE past 33, 65 etc. I don't know but it might be relevant. I'll keep my TDM rig on Logic 7. ATB, Erik 8 nov 2007 kl. 19.35 skrev David G Burns: > Sorry-next time I'll look at all the posts before replying.Lee,I'll > try your "include assets > fix"-sounds like a good one.Even before trying it-feels like the > right kind of Logic fix!! > cheers > David > ps-OT-I can post a recent autoload,or rather,would be curious to > see how others organize > their Logic lives...any one else > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Lee Blaske <lblaske@...> wrote: > > > > OK, I think I've got things figured out. This solved my problem, at > > least, and allowed me to record tracks past #65. > > > > What I needed to do was to uncheck "Include Assets" when naming a > > session/project after opening a new one. That means you're going to > > have to create and name a folder for your project, and then name and > > put the session file within it. When I didn't have "Include Assets" > > checked, LP8 asked me where I wanted to put my DAE audio files > when I > > got to channel 33, and again at 65 (and I assume it would do so at > > 97, too). > > > > This completely fixes the problem over here. > > > > Lee Blaske > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Lee Blaske wrote: > > > > > > > > Just saw your post, after I posted my problem. I'm having a > similar > > > problem, but my difficulties start with channels 33 and higher. > > > > > > Lee Blaske > > > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 10:24 AM, David G Burns wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Mark-looked around and could only find project settings/ > > > > recording/DAE recording > > > > folder,where you can enter a location and "set".Under 7 there > was > > > > the option of "song > > > > folder" versus "global",which seems to be gone now.I think > it's a > > > > deeper problem than that > > > > because I get the tdm setup icon after hitting record on any > track > > > > above 64 and than the > > > > bounce ball,and than Logic crashes and creates a crashed song > > > > doc.I'm fearing that PT 7.4 > > > > will be the cure,unless anyone else can confirm or deny my > > > > glitch.Is anyone out there > > > > running LP8 under TDM with 7.3.1 and can record on track 65 or > > > > higher.I can't be the only > > > > one here.... > > > > holding my breath > > > > David > > > > > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "ativity2003" <me@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If L8 allows it, did you REMOVE RECORD PATH before trying to > > > record > > > > > above track 64? This is in Audio Config in L7, so don't know > > > > where it > > > > > can be found in L8...anyway, for me, doing that in L7 always > > > > corrected > > > > > the problem you describe. > > > > > > > > > > best > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "David G Burns" <david@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Been with LP8 for a week or so,can't seem to be able to > > > record to > > > > > audio tracks 65 or higher > > > > > > under tdm,simply crashes.Tried with virgin LP8 template as > > > well as > > > > > older LP7 ones.PT works > > > > > > fine.dual G5 1.8,OSX 10.4.10,PT 7.3.1 cs4,TDM HD3 accel. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other misc annoyances-1-turning touch auto creates a > duplicate > > > > > track below in the arrange.. > > > > > > 2-the mackie control defaults to viewing 16 rather than 8 > > > > tracks,as > > > > > though it thinks there are > > > > > > two controllers,and shows the second one's tracks so > there is an > > > > > offset between what the > > > > > > arrange shows as being on the control surface,and what is > > > actually > > > > > displayed on it.Being in > > > > > > "single mode" works as expected though...any one else has > > > this..?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Anyone know if I absolutely have to upgrade to Logic 8 to use PT 7.4? Or will PT 7.4 work with my 7.2.3 version of Logic? Thanks!

Works for me thus far. Jim On 10 Nov 2007, at 11:27, Judson wrote: > Anyone know if I absolutely have to upgrade to Logic 8 to use PT > 7.4? Or will PT 7.4 work with my 7.2.3 version of Logic? Thanks!

great. are you using DTDM? On Nov 10, 2007, at 11:56 AM, James Richmond wrote: > Works for me thus far. > > Jim > > On 10 Nov 2007, at 11:27, Judson wrote: > > > Anyone know if I absolutely have to upgrade to Logic 8 to use PT > > 7.4? Or will PT 7.4 work with my 7.2.3 version of Logic? Thanks! > > > > >

Yup. On a G5 though, if that is significant. Dual 2ghz, 6gb ram. I do have 8 installed but I've gone back to using Logic 7.2.3 because I am finishing a huge project and prefer to stick with what I am familiar with. No issues thus far- well no new ones. Jim On 10 Nov 2007, at 14:27, Judson wrote: > great. are you using DTDM?

One interesting observation on a core audio mac: As you move a project folder (that has been set to include external audio files under assets) around to different locations, and check the Core audio Recording Path, this path dynamically updates to reflect the current location of the Audio Files folder within your project folder, wherever you may have moved it... On Nov 10, 2007, at 7:03 AM, logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Although I recently migrated to a Apogee/Symphony sollution, let me > just chime in with my experiences regarding recording paths in L8. > > It seems that your autoload needs to have "No Audio Recording Path" > selected under settings/recording for logic to "autodirect" your > audio to the relevant folder. If something is selected there it > defenitely goes there AND get's copied to the relevant project folder > when you hit save. Defenitely not good if it, as in my case, ends up > on the desktop, in terms of disc effiency and so forth... ________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ Jonathan Perl • Associate Director, Sonic Arts Center at the City College of New York. sonic.arts.ccny.cuny.edu • Apple Certified Trainer for Logic Studio and Soundtrack Pro. www.macaudiotrainers.com Apple Authorized Training Center. • Get the ultimate Logic training DVD, Inside Logic Pro 7.1. www.digitalmediatraining.com/products/logicpro7/ Coming Soon! Logic 8 Jump Start! Main Stage and LIbrary Jump Start! • Get the Wired Planet CD: http://cdbaby.com/cd/wiredplanet ________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________

Installed PT 7.4 today hoping that it would fix all the past problems with the DTDM not being able to work successfully. Since installing PT 7.4 i've had serious problems. Firstly protools does not load up without crashing (I'm getting DAE error -4) Secondly Logic can no longer select DAE as an option within the "Audio Hardware & drivers" page. Also if i run logic in core audio it no longer finds the digidesign 192 (digidesign HW) in the list of output devices. I now have a system where i'm unable to record a single thing either within protools or logic. I was under the impression that everything would be sorted with this release of protools however since installing it i've had a serious amount of grief. I'm going to run the uninstaller later on tonight and see if this fixes all of the problems. And i'm also going to check that my mac is up2date via software update. I've also been looking for the lastest version of the digidesign core audio driver so that i can run logic natively via the 192 but there doesn't seem to be an update available with 7.4. Does anyone else have any feedback on this setup or situation. P.S intel mac quad mac os 10.4.10, Logic 8.0.0 PT 7.4

I have a friend who went through this not so long ago... HE said that the only way to get them both to work was to have Logic and Pro Tools on different partitions. Don`t know why but he said the same thing that you said... Good luck... Leif >Message posted by greg <wizardgreg@btinternet.com>: > >Installed PT 7.4 today hoping that it would fix all the past problems with >the DTDM not being able to work successfully. Since installing PT 7.4 i've >had serious problems. > >Firstly protools does not load up without crashing (I'm getting DAE error >-4) >Secondly Logic can no longer select DAE as an option within the "Audio >Hardware & drivers" page. Also if i run logic in core audio it no longer >finds the digidesign 192 (digidesign HW) in the list of output devices. I >now have a system where i'm unable to record a single thing either within >protools or logic. > >I was under the impression that everything would be sorted with this release >of protools however since installing it i've had a serious amount of grief. >I'm going to run the uninstaller later on tonight and see if this fixes all >of the problems. And i'm also going to check that my mac is up2date via >software update. I've also been looking for the lastest version of the >digidesign core audio driver so that i can run logic natively via the 192 >but there doesn't seem to be an update available with 7.4. Does anyone else >have any feedback on this setup or situation. > >P.S intel mac quad mac os 10.4.10, Logic 8.0.0 PT 7.4

Hi! I am having problems with my Logic Pro 7. I use a PowerBook G4 and have 1.25 GB with 75 remaining at present. When I have approximately more than 4 Audio tracks running at one time (with plugins) the computer says "coreaudio oevrload". In audio preferences I have increased my buffer to 1024, enabled "larger disc buffer" and have everything onto maximum response mode but it doesn't seem to help. The only thing is that when I start up Logic it always says: - "DAE folder in system folder not found" and then ""ESB TDM" plug- in not found (-10800)" I wondered maybe this is the problem? I read the manual but can't seem to find any clarity with what i am doing wrong. I use a M-Audio Firewire 410 interface and that's it for hardware. Should I reinstall Logic? Have I accidently deleted these folders? No idea what they are anyway! Can anyone help? It's very frustrating as it stalls every 8 bars or so and i can't compose like this!!! Thanks alot in advance! :) Katarina

Make sure you do not have DAE active in the audio setup You only want Core Audio active John C On Nov 12, 2007, at 2:10 AM, Katarina wrote: > Message posted by Katarina <kat_a_rina@yahoo.com>: > > Hi! > > I am having problems with my Logic Pro 7. I use a PowerBook G4 and > have 1.25 > GB with 75 remaining at present. > > When I have approximately more than 4 Audio tracks running at one > time (with > plugins) the computer says "coreaudio oevrload". In audio > preferences I have > increased my buffer to 1024, enabled "larger disc buffer" and have > everything onto maximum response mode but it doesn't seem to help. > > The only thing is that when I start up Logic it always says: - "DAE > folder > in system folder not found" and then ""ESB TDM" plug- in not found > (-10800)" > > I wondered maybe this is the problem? I read the manual but can't > seem to > find any clarity with what i am doing wrong. > > I use a M-Audio Firewire 410 interface and that's it for hardware. > > Should I reinstall Logic? Have I accidently deleted these folders? > No idea > what they are anyway! > > Can anyone help? It's very frustrating as it stalls every 8 bars or > so and i > can't compose like this!!! > > Thanks alot in advance! > > :) Katarina > >

Is it still there in L8? How about with PT7.4? With Intel Macs? Thinking about upgrading, and I can't take it anymore. Might be a Symphony System in my future. Thanks, Michael Rubin Murmur Music, NYC

In "Audio Hardware and Drivers" : make sure you don't have DAE and DTDM turned on - these will only work with ProTools HD hardware, but for your setup Core Audio alone will work fine. Dom

Not sure about Intel-Mac, but it still happens on G5 from time to time. Jim On 12 Nov 2007, at 13:29, murmurmusicnyc wrote: > Is it still there in L8? How about with PT7.4? With Intel Macs? > > Thinking about upgrading, and I can't take it anymore. Might be a > Symphony System in my future. > > Thanks, > > Michael Rubin > Murmur Music, NYC

Hey, I have disabled them which has definitely helped but I just loaded up a drum sample in the audio window and only 4 seperate midi tracks and then the error messege came up core audio: system overload the audio engine was not able to process all the data in time. (-100011). Can you help? Thanks again.

Thank you so much! :)

Try lower cache ( 256 mb) turn off larger disk buffer On Nov 12, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Katarina wrote: > Message posted by Katarina <kat_a_rina@yahoo.com>: > > Hey, > > I have disabled them which has definitely helped but I just loaded > up a drum sample in the audio window and only 4 seperate midi > tracks and then the error messege came up core audio: system > overload the audio engine was not able to process all the data in > time. (-100011). > > Can you help? > > Thanks again. > >

Next Meeting Announcement Next Meeting: Wednesday, December 12th, 6 PM at Dale Pro Audio. 19 W. 22nd St. Manhattan Tony Cariddi, from Apogee Electronics, will demo and discuss the Symphony system and other Apogee products. Steve Horelick and Jonathan Perl will demo new features in Logic 8 and Main Stage. Apple Computer will be represented as well! Raffles TBA. “You Must Attend.” RSVP: jonathan@nylpug.com

Meeting Announcement Next Meeting: Wednesday, December 12th, 6 PM at Dale Pro Audio. 22 W. 19th St. Manhattan ☞ PLEASE NOTE CORRECTED ADDRESS ☜ Tony Cariddi, from Apogee Electronics, will demo and discuss the Symphony system and other Apogee products. Steve Horelick and Jonathan Perl will demo new features in Logic 8 and Main Stage. Apple Computer will be represented as well! Raffles TBA. “You Must Attend.� RSVP: jonathan@nylpug.com

- damn...I'd love to see a symphony demo from an Apogee dude but I'm in LA....please share your experience whoever goes or has worked on this hardware... Best Regards Peter

Does Logic have this feature to save it's own *ss everytime it crashes?

Greg Critchley <greg@gregcritchley.com> wrote: >Does Logic have this feature to save it's own *ss everytime it crashes? Yes, but some crashes are so pervasive as to break the auto-save feature, so it's not fool-proof for obvious reasons. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Yes plus one on that. Shouldn¹t tis be a little more advanced at this point? --

Now that 7.4 is out, this combo should be working, right? Anybody out there working with this configuration? Could you give a brief report? Wondering about speed, stability, and the ever present ESB distortion bug... Thanks in advance, Michael Rubin Murmur Music NYC

3-4 years ago, 250-500 messages a month on this group. Nowadays, 30-50. Does that tell you somehting about the trend re TDM/Logic combination? I'd say it's the proverbial handwriting on the wall... Me? Buying a Symphony system next week...