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From: Saverio Principini <info@sagestudio.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 at 5:57:32 PM
Subject: RTAS PLugins
Message #25176
PK I am a little rusted as I have been p[rimarly working in PT but I need some help.... I have a Wave bundle I bought and other RTAS plugins that open in ProTools without a problem - In Logic instead only a few of those show up - only one of the Waves - most RTAS don't - so I look for th eplug-in folder in the computer for Logic but can't find it... Where are the RTAS??? Can I copy and paste an alias of the Plug-ins from Digidesign Application Support Folder and pu them ... where??? I would appreciate any help I can get on the matter since my tech support with Waves is now expired.... Sage
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 at 7:06:06 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] RTAS PLugins
Message #25177
This is a reply to #25176.
On Jun 18, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Saverio Principini wrote: > Where are the RTAS??? Can I copy and paste an alias of the Plug-ins > from > Digidesign Application Support Folder and pu them ... where??? Sage, I hate to break it to you buddy, but RTAS isn't supported in Logic. only AU. Most of the companies that make plugs for PT and RTAS though, also make them as AU, so you might just need to download new installers for them. best, bd
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From: Saverio Principini <info@sagestudio.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 at 12:21:04 AM
Subject: Re: RTAS PLugins
Message #25178
This is a reply to #25177.
Wait a miunute so how come the AXX compressor shows up ? I did not buy the TDm just the RTAS ??? That is bad news, is there a work around ? Sage
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 at 1:09:02 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: RTAS PLugins
Message #25179
This is a reply to #25178.
On Jun 18, 2007, at 10:21 PM, Saverio Principini wrote: > Message posted by Saverio Principini <info@sagestudio.net>: > > Wait a miunute so how come the AXX compressor shows up ? I did not > buy the TDm just the RTAS ??? > > That is bad news, is there a work around ? > > Sage Waves installers automatically install VST and AU versions with their bundles.
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From: Saverio Principini <info@sagestudio.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 at 10:27:32 AM
Subject: Re: RTAS PLugins
Message #25180
This is a reply to #25179.
Yes I understand and infact in the AudioUnits I do see the Waves plugins but what I am saying is that in a DAE track I see the ZXX compressor which is part of the Bundle I have from Waves... That is really strange I think I will send an email to them - that's where I got all confused... Sage
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From: Dennis O'Brien <djdennisobrien@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 at 2:38:11 PM
Subject: Calibration
Message #25181
Hi guy's I am having trouble calibrating my 192 I/O and Digi PRE, I have had the 8 channel calibration template up and I need to set the output (by adjusting the trims) to 0 VU with a VU meter. Today I tried to get a vu meter from two large audio retail shops, Maplins, RS Electrical spares, ebay and looked up audio testing equipment, Basically I tried all day to get one. does any one in the uk know where I can get one from. I also need to calibrate my Digi PRE (it has a built in oscillator +4dbu reference signal at approx 1khz). I need to adjust the trims and set it too -6dbu below it's maximum output of +28dbu. Can any one tell me an easy way of doing this. Cheer's Dennis.
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From: Greg Critchley <greg@gregcritchley.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 at 6:43:30 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: RTAS PLugins
Message #25182
This is a reply to #25180.
RTAS plugins also show up on a DAE playback track (monitoring) in the audiosuite menu, when you double click the recorded audio in the arrange window. On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:27 AM, Saverio Principini wrote: > Message posted by Saverio Principini <info@sagestudio.net>: > > Yes I understand and infact in the AudioUnits I do see the Waves > plugins but what I am saying is that in a DAE track I see the ZXX > compressor which is part of the Bundle I have from Waves... > That is really strange I think I will send an email to them - that's > where I got all confused... > > Sage > >
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From: Saverio Principini <info@sagestudio.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 at 9:57:28 AM
Subject: Re: RTAS PLugins
Message #25183
This is a reply to #25182.
OK got it - I guessed that what got me confused is that Renassince AXX showed up in the DAE list - not audiosuite but regular insert - well i later found out that the same happends in ProTools - I guess since it was an addition to the bundle when i downloaded somehow the waves authorizer authorized the TDM version as well... either a mistake from Waves or they got generous for a moment.... Too bad wew can't used our beloved RTAS in Logic... Sage
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From: matt robertson <matt@onesevenfive.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 at 7:31:38 AM
Subject: Canopus
Message #25184
Hello all. I have just set up an HD2 in g5 PPC with tools 7.3.1 cs2 and logic 7.2.3 I cant get my canopus to work with this setup though. Logic will let me select it as the op device (I guess impplying that Logic can see it) but no video comes out. Any ideas? thanks Matt
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From: "sevennoses" <sevennoses@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 at 1:06:15 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] Re: Moving back to TDM
Message #25185
This is a reply to #25163.
No one?
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From: Marco <gunsti@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 at 9:32:13 AM
Subject: Using a Project II card on windows xp?
Message #25186
Hallo everybody, I want to use my Project II from digidesign on a windows xp system with a logic platinum programm or a cubase SX. I found a driver on the digidesign support page, but by using the asio driver, logic replays with an allert. Can anybody please help me? Thanks
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From: chris <zemsbass@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 at 7:17:10 PM
Subject: just for plugin DSP??
Message #25187
i have a system with protools HD 7.2. i also have logic 7.2. i realize that logic can utilize the digidesign DSPs to run TDM plugins. but, can it utilize the routing capabilities? can i use logic, and monitor in "real time" like i would in protools? or would i need another device, like RME, etc to accomplish this task? i am confused by the whole ESB thing, and the separate mixers that i'm reading about. thanks very much for your help! --christopher
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From: Mark Henderson <m.hender@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 at 9:02:24 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] use of raid array for libraries?
Message #25188
Anyone try using a Raid array for their sample streaming libraries? Like VSL and all your Apple loops, etc? I have firewire drives hanging everywhere, and have a raid array leftover from some video work that is 480 gigs. I'm wondering of it would work for library play back. I emailed Digi tech support (PT HD3 Accel system) and they discouraged me from using a raid for anything but video within this audio system. I'd just like to consolidate some of the firewire drives to get rid of them. -mark  Mark Henderson  mark(at)dirtydogproductions.net 952.210.4801
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From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@pclink.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 at 11:06:05 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: RTAS PLugins
Message #25189
This is a reply to #25183.
On Jun 20, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Saverio Principini wrote: >> Too bad wew can't used our beloved RTAS in Logic... I don't know if it's that big of a loss. RTAS is inefficient, and does not take advantage of OSX's audio and MIDI kernel level processing. AU is much better. High end sampler plug-ins like Kontakt 2 don't work well in RTAS. Vienna Symphonic Library decided not to even make their new VI available in RTAS, because RTAS couldn't cut it. It'll be interesting to see what Digidesign does with RTAS in the future. It would be great for MacPT users is PT supported AU, but I doubt that will happen.
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From: James Richmond <yahoogroups@jamesrichmond.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 at 11:24:19 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: RTAS PLugins
Message #25190
This is a reply to #25189.
> I don't know if it's that big of a loss. RTAS is inefficient, and > does not take advantage of OSX's audio and MIDI kernel level > processing. AU is much better. If you are doing loads of VI work then AU is fine but RTAS would be handy for anyone trying to mix on a Logic TDM system who has less than a HD2. You run out of slots pretty quickly especially when using plugins like Echoboy which take an entire DSP. I'm on HD3 accel and I run out of DSP from time to time as well. RTAS would take the pressure off. Jim
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From: Saverio Principini <info@sagestudio.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 at 11:07:32 AM
Subject: Re: RTAS PLugins
Message #25191
This is a reply to #25189.
Well I just wish I could use my Waves on a TDM track, In ProTools I can, yes there's latency - which can be easily compensated- but it works, in Logic I don't think I can use both a TDM and AudioUnit plugins on the same track.... Sage
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From: <music@brio.myzen.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 at 10:08:20 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] How do I switch off Project manager?
Message #25192
Hi group, I haven't been able to automatically locate (search) lost audiofiles for several years now, attempting to do so results in LOGIC quitting without message, a LOGIC relaunch will take OS X down. I was advised to switch Project manager off, but I am not sure if I know HOW. In the Projectmanager tab of LOGIC Preferences both "Load project manager database on program launch" and "check for deleted files after loading PM database" are UNCHECKED. for "search files using:" I have "search engine only" selected. How can I banish this buggy and slow function from my program? Thanks Brio
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From: Jan Stevens <janstevensmusic@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 at 1:36:08 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] How do I switch off Project manager?
Message #25193
This is a reply to #25192.
I'm not sure how to turn it off but, I have been able to search lost audio files by copying down the name of the file on a piece of paper and then type it into the manual file search. It takes longer but it will not crash the Logic or the OSX. I hope someone has a better way. JS On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:08 PM, <music@brio.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > Hi group, > > I haven't been able to automatically locate (search) lost > audiofiles for several years now, attempting to do so results in > LOGIC quitting without message, a LOGIC relaunch will take OS X down. > > I was advised to switch Project manager off, but I am not sure if I > know HOW. In the Projectmanager tab of LOGIC Preferences both "Load > project manager database on program launch" and "check for deleted > files after loading PM database" are UNCHECKED. > > for "search files using:" I have "search engine only" selected. > > How can I banish this buggy and slow function from my program? > > Thanks > Brio
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From: Lewis Pickett <lpickettgrieve@berklee.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 at 12:58:03 PM
Subject: Command 8 + Logic
Message #25194
Does anyone know how I can "program" command 8 to work wih Logic 7?? I know it can be done as it is a universal control surface, I just dont know how to creat an environment. Let me know if you have any ideas Thanks
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From: James Richmond <yahoogroups@jamesrichmond.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 at 2:57:12 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Command 8 + Logic
Message #25195
This is a reply to #25194.
> Does anyone know how I can "program" command 8 to work wih Logic 7?? > I know it can be done as it is a universal control surface, I just > dont know > how to creat an environment. > Let me know if you have any ideas > Thanks Read this thread: Command 8 with Logic Regards, Jim Richmond
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From: Davide Riva <davide_riva@fastwebnet.it>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 at 8:38:05 AM
Subject: Anyone knows when Logic will be compatib
Message #25196
Hi to everyone, Anyone knows when Logic will be compatible with PT HD on Mac intel? Thanks in advance Davide
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@goodmedia.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 at 1:06:46 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Anyone knows when Logic will be compatib
Message #25197
This is a reply to #25196.
Davide Riva <[ mailto:davide_riva%40fastwebnet.it ]davide_riva@fastwebnet.it> writes: > Anyone knows when Logic will be compatible with PT HD on Mac intel? Apple hasn't announced this yet. It's a HUGE rewrite of the DAE, which entails a HUGE rewrite of Logic's DAE support. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: Stephen Egerton O'Reilly <allbaldo@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 at 7:41:20 PM
Subject: Newbie help setting up LP7 with TDM 6.4.1 (Mix era).
Message #25198
I've spent the whole day trying to get these two to play together, with no luck. I've pored over the Logic/TDM setup guide over and over, and I must be missing something. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here's what I have... G4 500 (I know... old) running OSX 10.3.9 with Logic Pro 7 and Pro Tools 6.4.1. I've got a Mix Plus (1 core and 2 farms) and an 888/24 I/O. The PT has been working fine for quite a while. As it is, I can't get any sound from DAE, DTDM, or Core Audio. Can someone help? I've tried opening the tutorials, creating new projects, using the DAE-DTDM template, and I can't get anything to happen.. What do I need to do? A couple other questions are I have are.. How should the Audio/MIDI utility in OSX be set up? I read in the Logic/TDM setup guide about a DTDM mixer, but can't find it anywhere. What is it? I'm mostly wanting to use the software instruments. Can instrument channels be routed to DTDM or DAE? Thanks!! Stephen
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From: Greg Critchley <greg@gregcritchley.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 at 8:25:28 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Newbie help setting up LP7 with TDM 6.4.1 (Mix era).
Message #25199
This is a reply to #25198.
All of your software versions are fine - it should work. I had a similar system (same versions) until recently (although g4 500?...hmmmm :)) Have you selected your prefs as DAE and DTDM in the logic prefs? You should de-select core audio. This is obvious, but it's tough to troubleshoot without starting there. when you play protools, the 888/24 spits out audio? Are you running sessions in the same 44.1 or 48 rate, or 24bit vs. 16 bit? as the audio? Are the audio tracks you are trying to play dae tracks or DTDM tracks? Create dae tracks first and get that working. keep us posted and we'll help along the way Greg On Jul 31, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Stephen Egerton O'Reilly wrote: > Message posted by Stephen Egerton O'Reilly <allbaldo@yahoo.com>: > > I've spent the whole day trying to get these two to play together, > with no > luck. I've pored over the Logic/TDM setup guide over and over, and I > must be > missing something. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here's what > I > have... > > G4 500 (I know... old) running OSX 10.3.9 with Logic Pro 7 and Pro > Tools > 6.4.1. I've got a Mix Plus (1 core and 2 farms) and an 888/24 I/O. > The PT > has been working fine for quite a while. As it is, I can't get any > sound > from DAE, DTDM, or Core Audio. Can someone help? > > I've tried opening the tutorials, creating new projects, using the > DAE-DTDM > template, and I can't get anything to happen.. What do I need to do? > > A couple other questions are I have are.. > > How should the Audio/MIDI utility in OSX be set up? > I read in the Logic/TDM setup guide about a DTDM mixer, but can't > find it > anywhere. What is it? > I'm mostly wanting to use the software instruments. Can instrument > channels > be routed to DTDM or DAE? > > Thanks!! > > Stephen > >
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From: skylabfilmpop <skylabfilmpop@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 at 9:44:16 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Newbie help setting up LP7 with TDM 6.4.1 (Mix era).
Message #25200
This is a reply to #25198.
Stephen Have you created an environment template or thoroughly read the chapter on it in the manual? Logic does not dynamically add tracks, auxes etc like PT does. You need to define how many of everything you¹d like to work with. For example I have an environment layer for Audio instruments (virtual instruments like ESX or Drumlit from hell) with say 36 audio instruments, I then have a coreaudio (in your case DTDM) layer with 16 audio tracks for running apple loops and rex files,or dragging something I recorded into to use one of logics plug ins (eg bitcrusher on Bass I recorded in), I also have a DAE Audio environment layer with 32 tracks of audio plus 4 stereo auxes which I use to route the virtual instrument and native audio (core or DTDM). On these 4 stereo auxes you will have to enable undre the input source at the top of the fader (ESB 1-2. ESB 3-4, ESB 5-6, ESB 7-8). Then go back to your Audio instruments and DTDM Audio and assign the outputs of those tracks to whichever ESB bus you¹d like them to come out of. Check your audio preferences and be sure that only DTDM and DAE are enabled. This should work now. If not some other things to consider are this: Have you installed the Logic Pro apps update from the apple website? Also protools 6.4 is only approved for OS 10.3.4 and Quicktime 6.5.2 so you may have some uninstalling and reinstalling to do. Search the digidesign support site. As I recall they have a pretty thorough Logic/PT setup guide. Good Luck MATT --
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