Used to, all the time. But now suddenly it's more seldom. Have no idea why. Happens with AudioSuite occasionly too. I'm running a native rig alongside my TDM with a KVM switch and I gotta tell you I'm opting for native more and more. It's just...stable. Gonna try the Metric Halo Mobile I/O today, I'll try the Time Machine thing. ATB, erik 6 jun 2007 kl. 01.23 skrev Robert Prizeman: > Message posted by Robert Prizeman <rp@robertprizeman.fsnet.co.uk>: > > We do a stretch or tune on a section of audio in the sample window > - but it > won't play back the 'edit' - it stays the same. You come out into > arrange > and back in, and then it works! Has anyone else come across this? > G5 Quad > (not Intel) latest Logic/OS with Digi 96 etc. > >

I've had this problem as well.....also pitch shifting seems tot take forever.... Mike Turner Quad G5 192i/o Logic7.2.2 Pro Tools 7.1 case 10

That´s a well known Logic/TDM problem, all destructive editings in the sample-editor (not only with timemachine) aren´t updated immediately in logic´s playlist. Undo + Redo is the only solution for now. Very annoying, if you have to do extensive editings. I´ve wrote this bug to apple 12 month before, but you know what happened ;-) Greatings, Josef

I´ve sometimes the problem, that bouncing stops after a few seconds, then I try it again and again and if I´m lucky then it works. Does someone else know this strange behaviour ? Greatings, Josef

Sometimes I have this problem: recording audio on one or more tracks seems to work (you can see the white recording-graphic), but after stopping, logic has recorded f.e. only 1 second or so. I´ve lost so precious recordings, but I´m not sure if it is a problem of logic or of my system: Mac OS 10.4.9 (but had this problem also with 10.4.6/7/8), Logic 7.2.3, Protools 7.3.1cs3, HD3 Accel, G5 Quad Greatings, Josef

Hello Josef, This is a problem that I/many had some years ago when everybody jumped up to OSX. Logic did exactly as you say. With me, it looked like everything was recording but when I hit the stop but I got the dreaded -9060 error. After hitting ok I saw that I had only recorded a second of audio and not the 4 minutes that I was listening to and watching show up on my screen. This is the main reason why I jumped over to Pro Tools... I thought that the 9060 thing was fixed with Logic 7.1 but I guess it is still out there... I am sorry to hear your situation. Try going on the Digidesign site and searching the 9060 error... They might have some ideas. Maybe you should journal or unjournal you disk drives.... Good luck, Leif On 06-06-07 10:14, "tonwurm" <josef.ferger@supernova-studio.de> wrote: > > > > > Sometimes I have this problem: recording audio on one or more tracks seems to > work (you > can see the white recording-graphic), but after stopping, logic has recorded > f.e. only 1 > second or so. I´ve lost so precious recordings, but I´m not sure if it is a > problem of logic or > of my system: Mac OS 10.4.9 (but had this problem also with 10.4.6/7/8), Logic > 7.2.3, > Protools 7.3.1cs3, HD3 Accel, G5 Quad > > Greatings, Josef > > >

How do you find the latency compared to your TDM system? Will > Hi Guys, > The RME Fireface 800 is very impressive. In am going to keep my HD system for > a while, > because I too have projects that I might want to re-visit in the near > future... but for my extra > two cents worth.... > Since deleting TDM from my setup for a week now, I am amazed at how well my > system > works now. Most of (nearly all of) those problems disappear straight away. > Gee, Logic Pro is > quite a nice app running in it's native mode! And I am achieving so much more > soft-synth/ > sampler/plug ins now. No crashes. No kernal panics. Joy. > > I run almost all audio through two Amek CIBs before going to the Fireface, > which probably > helps. But the AD/DA on the RME is extremely impressive. > > If anyone wants to ask other questions, I am happy to answer. > > Tony

Hello Leif ! Thank you for your reply, that aren´t not good news ;-( Greatings, Josef --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Leif Johansen <leif@...> wrote: > > Hello Josef, > This is a problem that I/many had some years ago when everybody jumped up to > OSX. Logic did exactly as you say. With me, it looked like everything was > recording but when I hit the stop but I got the dreaded -9060 error. After > hitting ok I saw that I had only recorded a second of audio and not the 4 > minutes that I was listening to and watching show up on my screen. This is > the main reason why I jumped over to Pro Tools... I thought that the 9060 > thing was fixed with Logic 7.1 but I guess it is still out there... > I am sorry to hear your situation. Try going on the Digidesign site and > searching the 9060 error... They might have some ideas. Maybe you should > journal or unjournal you disk drives.... > Good luck, > Leif > On 06-06-07 10:14, "tonwurm" <josef.ferger@...> wrote: > > > > > Sometimes I have this problem: recording audio on one or more tracks seems to > > work (you > > can see the white recording-graphic), but after stopping, logic has recorded > > f.e. only 1 > > second or so. I´ve lost so precious recordings, but I´m not sure if it is a > > problem of logic or > > of my system: Mac OS 10.4.9 (but had this problem also with 10.4.6/7/8), Logic > > 7.2.3, > > Protools 7.3.1cs3, HD3 Accel, G5 Quad > > > > Greatings, Josef

This can be a permissions error. If Logic does not have permission to write to the target path directory for the audio file, the recording cannot be saved. Try repairing permissions on your audio drive and also "get info" on the folder for your audio path and confirm that your user account is the owner for the folder and you can read and write. You can also try recording to a different drive to see if there's any change. If you need to set new permissions, download the free utility "batchmod" that can be found with Google. It works very well, better than the OS X settings "apply to all sub-folders", but it's powerful and can change a lot of permissions at once, so read the instructions carefully before using it. Good luck. - Dave David Gordon Composer/Producer Sequoia Records http://www.davidgordon.com http://www.sequoiarecords.com On Jun 6, 2007, at 9:47 AM, tonwurm wrote: > Hello Leif ! > > Thank you for your reply, that aren´t not good news ;-( > > Greatings, Josef > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Leif Johansen <leif@...> wrote: >> >> Hello Josef, >> This is a problem that I/many had some years ago when everybody >> jumped up to >> OSX. Logic did exactly as you say. With me, it looked like >> everything was >> recording but when I hit the stop but I got the dreaded -9060 >> error. After >> hitting ok I saw that I had only recorded a second of audio and >> not the 4 >> minutes that I was listening to and watching show up on my screen. >> This is >> the main reason why I jumped over to Pro Tools... I thought that >> the 9060 >> thing was fixed with Logic 7.1 but I guess it is still out there... >> I am sorry to hear your situation. Try going on the Digidesign >> site and >> searching the 9060 error... They might have some ideas. Maybe you >> should >> journal or unjournal you disk drives.... >> Good luck, >> Leif > >> On 06-06-07 10:14, "tonwurm" <josef.ferger@...> wrote: >> > >>> >>> Sometimes I have this problem: recording audio on one or more >>> tracks seems to >>> work (you >>> can see the white recording-graphic), but after stopping, logic >>> has recorded >>> f.e. only 1 >>> second or so. I´ve lost so precious recordings, but I´m not sure >>> if it is a >>> problem of logic or >>> of my system: Mac OS 10.4.9 (but had this problem also with >>> 10.4.6/7/8), Logic >>> 7.2.3, >>> Protools 7.3.1cs3, HD3 Accel, G5 Quad >>> >>> Greatings, Josef > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

Zero latency. Well, as close as it can be. Certainly no more than TDM. I have Logic running at 64. 32 and it started to hiccup with large track counts. Tony --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Will Thomson <will@...> wrote: > > How do you find the latency compared to your TDM system? > > > Will > > > > > Hi Guys, > > The RME Fireface 800 is very impressive. In am going to keep my HD system for > > a while, > > because I too have projects that I might want to re-visit in the near > > future... but for my extra > > two cents worth.... > > Since deleting TDM from my setup for a week now, I am amazed at how well my > > system > > works now. Most of (nearly all of) those problems disappear straight away. > > Gee, Logic Pro is > > quite a nice app running in it's native mode! And I am achieving so much more > > soft-synth/ > > sampler/plug ins now. No crashes. No kernal panics. Joy. > > > > I run almost all audio through two Amek CIBs before going to the Fireface, > > which probably > > helps. But the AD/DA on the RME is extremely impressive. > > > > If anyone wants to ask other questions, I am happy to answer. > > > > Tony >

If this is the case, then I wonder why on earth the software can't simply warn/advise the user? Or could it be that OSX security measures prevent such detection routines? Will > This can be a permissions error. If Logic does not have permission > to write to the target path directory for the audio file, the > recording cannot be saved.

The answer to your question is that your solution would simply be too simple! We need the mysterious strange behavior to keep us all wondering what's happening, and to give us something to talk about. The more serious answer is that permissions issues often cause strange behavior in the OS, not just in Logic. Sometimes when nothing else makes sense, investigating the permissions can turn up a solution. Speaking of funny strange behaviors... my favorite logic crazy bug is one time I was working along on a song, everything running great, then the screen froze and I got an error message in a dialog box. The message said something like this: "Too many nested levels". Then, the funny part... at the bottom of the box, where usually there is a button that says "Continue" or "Cancel" or something like that, in this box the button said: "BAD." That was it, no other way out, you had to click the button that said "BAD." So I clicked it and Logic put me right back where I was. No crash, nothing. Now what, do I save the song? Has it been corrupted? No way to know... All I knew for sure, it was BAD. - Dave On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Will Thomson wrote: > If this is the case, then I wonder why on earth the software can't > simply > warn/advise the user? Or could it be that OSX security measures > prevent such > detection routines? > > Will > > >> This can be a permissions error. If Logic does not have permission >> to write to the target path directory for the audio file, the >> recording cannot be saved. >

Hi, I'm looking to buy a new TDM system where I would continue to use Logic 7.2 (PPC) to record and mix. - Is anyone using an Apogee DA-16 instead of the 192 for mixing out of the box? Are you happy with it? - Anyone using Big Ben with a 192? Thoughts? - Some users have posted that they compose in Logic and mix in Pro Tools. Anyone doing both in Logic without too many problems? (my projects usually 24-32 tracks. Dual 2.5 G5, 4 gigs ram) A Symphony system is also on my radar, but I really miss the DAE/TDM sound. Comments on that comparison are welcome as well. Thanks, Keith

Hi, At the Frankfurter Messe I spoke with a usually reliable contact (he had proven to be 'in the know' on previous occasions) who told me that the Logic 8 update, originally scheduled to be released at Frankfurt, was postponed until the WWDC. He also told me it would be a big one. So I had some hope (I'm an optimist) that somewhere in Steve Job's keynote, a new Logic release would pop up. But no. What is the latest info on a new Logic release? Hard to tell obviously since Apple is very secretive about upcoming releases - but what's the buzz? Any info? I'm starting to think we won't see Logic updates at all until Leopard. Best, Ivo

Ivo Witteveen <ivo@qq-audio.com> wrote: >At the Frankfurter Messe I spoke with a usually reliable contact (he >had proven to be 'in the know' on previous occasions) who told me >that the Logic 8 update, originally scheduled to be released at >Frankfurt, was postponed until the WWDC. He also told me it would be >a big one. Your friend is either a liar or an ass. A liar if he really isn't "in the know" and is just spouting baloney based on nothing. An ass if he really is "in the know" and has broken his non-disclosure agreement with Apple. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

> > Your friend is either a liar or an ass. > > A liar if he really isn't "in the know" and is just spouting > baloney based on nothing. > > An ass if he really is "in the know" and has broken > his non-disclosure agreement with Apple. > Yeah. Or he could be a reasonable guy who, when asked by a music tech magazine reporter (me), explained that he could not tell anything on the record about Logic's development or release schedule, strictly keeping to his NDA. Off the record however, he felt he was not spoiling any big secrets by telling me that a release at the Messe (which was widely expected) had indeed been planned, but had been postponed to the WWDC. I'm not trying to sound interesting here. I have good reason to believe that the info was reliable at the time otherwise I wouldn't post about it. Obviously there was no release yesterday so either the info was wrong after all, or the release has been postponed further. I was just wondering if anyone had any information on this. Cheers, Ivo

Ivo wrote: > I have good reason to > believe that the info was reliable at the time otherwise I wouldn't > post about it. Obviously there was no release yesterday so either the > info was wrong after all, or the release has been postponed further. > > I was just wondering if anyone had any information on this. Remember when Logic 7 was released? No NAMM, No Messe, No WWDC, nothing, just out of the blue in mid fall. I honestly liked the way they did it without much noise when nobody watched them as closely as we do now... Best, Andy

f-erenc wrote: > Your friend is either a liar or an ass. Yeah, we hate him! Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

In a message dated 6/12/07 11:29:00 AM, recording@earthlink.net writes: > f-erenc wrote: > > > Your friend is either a liar or an ass. > > Yeah, we hate him! > Hu hu hu.He said ass Beavis. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

On Jun 12, 2007, at 6:02 AM, Andy Hardwake wrote: > Ivo wrote: > >> I have good reason to >> believe that the info was reliable at the time otherwise I wouldn't >> post about it. Obviously there was no release yesterday so either the >> info was wrong after all, or the release has been postponed further. >> >> I was just wondering if anyone had any information on this. > > > Remember when Logic 7 was released? No NAMM, No Messe, No WWDC, > nothing, > just out of the blue in mid fall. I honestly liked the way they did it > without much noise when nobody watched them as closely as we do now... > > Best, > > Andy > > > I heard that in the next version of Logic, the XSKey dongle will be replaced. Instead Logic 8 will require the use of an iPhone, and accounts with AT&T/Cingular, eBay, PayPal and FedEX. Without those accounts, the program will not launch. The iPhone will function as a touch-screen control surface. If there is any TDM equipment in your system, Logic 8 will upload to your eBay account and automatically start, manage and complete an auction to sell the TDM equipment with payment to you via PayPal. To continue using Logic, you will need to photograph the removed TDM equipment using the iPhone. The confirmation photos will be sent to Apple by email and also posted on eBay. When the eBay Auction sale is complete, the iPhone will call Fedex to schedule a pickup. Logic will then go into registration mode and there will be a one-week grace period for the TDM equipment to be delivered to the purchaser after which Logic will not function until the sale is confirmed. When Fedex confirms delivery by emailing Logic, Logic will email PayPal to send the proceeds from the auction to Apple, to be applied to your Applecare Pro Support package, allowing you to call Applecare techs in India for up to 90 days for a maximum of 3 separate support issues. As a premium pro Support member your tech support issue may be escalated to someone who knows what Logic is and how to use it. When you reach that person, they will tell you that Apple does not release information about future upgrades and that since you are already using the new version, you must be making the whole thing up. Dave

Wow took the words right out of my mouth --

Posted by: "David Gordon" music-pro@cox.net davidgordon418 Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:25 pm (PST) > I heard that in the next version of Logic, the XSKey dongle will be > replaced. Instead Logic 8 will require the use of an iPhone, and > accounts with AT&T/Cingular, eBay, PayPal and FedEX. Without those > accounts, the program will not launch. The iPhone will function as a > touch-screen control surface. If there is any TDM equipment in your > system, Logic 8 will upload to your eBay account and automatically > start, manage and complete an auction to sell the TDM equipment with > payment to you via PayPal. To continue using Logic, you will need to > photograph the removed TDM equipment using the iPhone. The > confirmation photos will be sent to Apple by email and also posted on > eBay. When the eBay Auction sale is complete, the iPhone will call > Fedex to schedule a pickup. Logic will then go into registration > mode and there will be a one-week grace period for the TDM equipment > to be delivered to the purchaser after which Logic will not function > until the sale is confirmed. When Fedex confirms delivery by > emailing Logic, Logic will email PayPal to send the proceeds from the > auction to Apple, to be applied to your Applecare Pro Support > package, allowing you to call Applecare techs in India for up to 90 > days for a maximum of 3 separate support issues. As a premium pro > Support member your tech support issue may be escalated to someone > who knows what Logic is and how to use it. When you reach that > person, they will tell you that Apple does not release information > about future upgrades and that since you are already using the new > version, you must be making the whole thing up. I heard that too, and it's definitely true. It was told to me by the nurse who was in the emergency room with Richard Gere a few years ago (actually it was more than a few). He's back in the hospital, by the way. This time he's having a mole removed. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

Dave and Nick, You guys forgot to mention Apple will require that you buy a 96 in/96 out Symphony rig to be eligible for the upgrade. That's after you sell your TDM setup for pocket change on eBay. Best, Andy

If no one is using this combo, guess I'll upgrade my Alti 5 and give it a shot. --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "ativity2003" <me@...> wrote: > > Using DAE 7.3 in L7.2.3. Isn't Altiverb 6 full TDM compatible now? > Is it buggy for anyone? > thx > > Mark >

get him!!!