Yes, I could. But: I´m using 2 10k rpm Seagate Cheetahs that were/are megabucks and mega-reliable. If I drop the SCSI card they´re gone. Removing the graphic card would not help, a dual monitor card would also use the slot (the first one is onboard). And switching to Firewire would mean at least €150 for the card and €500 for the new drives. And will I be able to use 64 tracks with Firewire and TDM? With SCSI I can. Are Firewire cards even supported by Digi for TDM systems? And it seems I just threw some money (for the USB card) out of the window for nothing. At least I tried. :-/ A lot of trouble for the new dongle that SHOULD make things easier. If emagic would supply us with a challenge-response system for older machines like every other manufacturer I know of does (even Bombfactory!) all would be well. Hey, am I the only one who uses a TDM system on a beige G3 / expansion chassis and wants to use Logic-5??? What are the rest of you doing about it? (BTW: Sorry for quoting the whole thing, but I cc the mail to emagic support.) Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Schlaile" <ms_lists@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 as i said before, i could be wrong. only emagic knows what's compatible... -marc ps you might consider exchanging your SCSI card for a combi USB/firewire card. since i've switched to FW a while ago and i really don't regret it. cheaper disc, easy handling and my investments are fairly save for a while. or you could exchange the graphic card for a dual-one. > Von: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...> > Organisation: MerlinSound > Antworten an: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Datum: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:49:16 +0100 > An: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com>, "TecCenter, EMAGIC" <support@...> > Betreff: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 > > Wow! > If that really is the case I´m fu**ed with my (perfectly working) beige > G3-300MT. > I´m not gonna remove the 2nd graphics card or SCSI card (both powerful and > needed for my work) to be able to run the USB card ONLY FOR THE NEW DONGLE. > Both above cards don´t work in the expansion chassis together with my > ProTools cards either (Mix-Core, Mix-Farm, 3 DSP-Farms, SampleCell II+ TDM). > There´s only the 7th. slot in the expansion chassis left for the USB card... > If emagic requires an USB port then they should tell me which USB card can > run in an expansion chassis! > > IMO I´m not the only one that can´t upgrade to Logic5 if the above doesn´t > work. > And I´m not buying a new Mac only for the dongle, I´ll definitely wait for > the 2nd generation G5... > > Regards, Peter > --- > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Schlaile" <ms_lists@...> > To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:56 PM > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 > > > the usb card needs to be in the mac, not in the expansion chassis. i doubt > that the generic mac usb drivers can access the card inside an expansion > chassis. > > -marc > >> Von: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...> >> Organisation: MerlinSound >> Antworten an: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com >> Datum: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:49:08 +0100 >> An: "daw-mac" <daw-mac@yahoogroups.com>, "L-TDM" > <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com>, >> "LUG" <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> >> Betreff: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 >> >> Hi! >> >> I just installed an USB adapter card (Thrustmaster, USB 1.0, two USB > ports) >> in a Bit-3 7-slot chassis (last free slot). >> The dealer told me it is supported through Apple´s USB adapter card > software >> (which I installed; I also tried USB overdrive). >> I tried putting an old iMac mouse on one of the two USB ports but it > doesn´t >> work... :-/ >> >> I intend to use the card for the Logic Audio 5 dongle. >> >> Is anybody using an USB card in a similar configuration? >> Does it work? >> Does it show up somewhere in the Apple system profiler? >> How else can I check whether the card works or how can I make it work? >> >> Thanx, >> Peter >> --- >> http://www.merlinsound.de