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From: skylabfilmpop <skylabfilmpop@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 at 11:06:01 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: Newbie help setting up LP7 with TDM 6.4.1 (Mix
Message #25217
This is a reply to #25216.
Hey Stephen Unlike Protools you really. really have to read the manual. Its like buying a ferrari.......... Kit ! You have to put it together and define how everything works. Likely the downfall of the platform and why it will never usurp protools on a pro or even consumer level IMO. In protools if you say press cmd>2 for session info hitting cmd>2 again will either bring that window to the front if it is in the back or do nothing if it is already displayed on top. In Logic the same type of behavior will create redundant windows (eg environment #2). So to clarify this is just a copy of the original window NOT an environment layer. Locic is a nearly total open architecture program. You have to define a template of how you want to work and then save it as ³autoload² in the logic folder located at home>application support>logic>song templates. When you save it you will have constructed all of your midi and audio routing options in the environment and tracks that display on your edit page and mix page. You will want to select the key command for each window you like to use together and save it as a screenset. You can do this multiple times for different views. Within each screenset use the cmd>~ key command to toggle between windows. So for example if you have the mix and edit and environment windows open use cmd>~ to cycle through the windows to get back to the environment. Speaking of the environment on the left hand side of the environment window is a pull down window that probably has ³clicks and Ports² or ³Audio instruments² or ³instruments² or ³audio² as its title. Click on it. The last option is create new environment layer. Personally I make a separate layer for DAE based and Native (DTDM for you) audio. Within each environment layer are ³audio Objects² which may ne either Tracks, inputs, auxes, or audio instruments, each audio object can be defined as either a midi track, audio instrument, audio track, input aux, etc. And for all audio related ³audio objects (audio track, input, aux) you can choose whether they are DAE based or Natively (dtdm) based. You do this via the properties pane on the left hand side of the environment layer, poke around there for a while and see what you see. Click on an already existing track and then toggle the properties to be DAE audo track/mono, stereo or DTDM input or whatever you need. In my case I renamed the ³Audio Layer² ³DAE AUDIO² and then created a new layer ³NATIVE AUDIO²/ IN the DAE AUDIO² Layer I created say 32 audio objects named as ³audio tracks² 1-32 and then 4 DAE stereo inputs to receive the ESB Bridge inputs 1-2 to 7-8 and then a couple more DAE Stereo inputs to return hardware reverbs, selecting channels from my PT interfaces as their inputs. In the ³Native Audio ³ I created say 8 stereo audio track and 8 mono audio track ³audio objects² and then four more Stereo DTDM aux ³audio objects² to send the native tracks and audio instruments to the 4 pair of inputs in the DAE layer. You need to select ESB outputs for the Audio instrument layer as well. Once you instanciate the ESB1-2 through ESB 7-8 inputs on the 4 pair of DAE layer inputs, DAE routing options will appear on your DTDM tracks output and you need to select those. Envision hooking a bunch of keyboards to a Mackie 32-8 mixer sending its 8 busses to 8 channels your SSL console . The DAE layer is the SSL and the DTDM/Native layer and the Audio instruments Layer are the Mackie. With that done you should be in business. From here you can get very sophisticated say using Drumkit from hell in multi output mode and routing individual drums to different auxes and then outting them all together through a stereo input with a buss selected as its source so you can put a 2buss compressor across the stereo drum image. With luck eventually you might be able to write some music! If you want my opinion, for me personally if Logic 8 is not totally stellar I will likely ditch Logic altogether as I do a lot of audio recording and its handling of that is archaic and not thought out at all. At this point PT 7.3 offers very capable midi and VI implementation that most of us who are not James Newton Howard wannabes will find adequate. For my .02 unless you really need to learn logic, and are not already a midi whiz, throwing down $600 for a second hand Digi 002 is a much better path. Good Luck MATT
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