Shocking rumor: there will be an entire digest of this list or the LUG sometime between now and next January that *doesn't* have a single post containing totally groundless hype about the next update to Logic. I know it's hard to believe, but I read it on Macwanker.com, and so far they've never been wrong. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) +1818/905-9101, cell 590-9101