--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Matt McKenzie-Smith <matt@...> wrote: > > > Hi Paul, I've been a hugh fan of Ableton Live since it's inception. > > The whole time stretching > > concept is a great way to work but it's not what Beat Detective is > > designed for. > > You can do many things with BD but I believe it was designed mainly > > for engineers who > > used to "Grid" drums in PTools day in day out. > > It is still a method some people use (Gridding) but it is > > incredibly time consuming. Usually > > about 4 to 6 hours to complete a 3.30 multi drum track. > > People were employed just to do that job. > > Beat Detective saved our collective butts and is a viable > > alternative to the Gridding > > method. > > To be able to tighten a performance of 12 tracks of drums and keep > > them in phase is a > > phenomenal leap forward...........and like it or loath it the > > results are what you are hearing > > on the radio everyday. > > One of the reasons why PT is an industry standard and a very big > > reason why I use it > > everyday......despite the midi hell. > > Hey Phil, > Have you experimented with the multitrack warping Live 6.0.7? I > noticed it in the read me and thought it might be a viable, albeit > different, alternative to BT.. I haven't had the need for it just > yet (as most of my work is a few vocals over the top of a bleep and > squeak track). > I noticed you need to be a member of the 'womb' to read the forums, > so I haven't had the priv to read the BT tutorials. However, I did > have a bit of a scout around the site there... Those dudes are pretty > hard core! ;-) > > Best Regards, > Matt > Hi Matt, I have updated to Live 6 but I must admit I have not looked at it lately. I don't have much use for the whole warping thing these days as I'm doing a lot of live drums. I think I could safely say that there would be phase issues with overheads and room mikes if you tried to warp multi tracked drums. But for a load of other stuff I think Live is an incredible app and I used to run it with Logic and ProTools all the time. It's very easy to join that list "The Womb" and there is much to be learned there. Also good old "Gearslutz.com" is very informative. As far as the attitude of a lot of the posters.......a lot of it is bravdo and "boys club" mentality. But there's no ill will meant and as per usual with any list, if you go to some of the users home pages you will discover that there are as many newbies as pros. The proof is always in the tracks!!