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From: "Andy Hardwake" <digitalmechanics@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 at 2:06:29 AM
Subject: RE: [L-TDM] Lock-SMPTE bug alert // WAS: automation bug
Message #23776
This is a reply to #23775.
Thanks so much Dave! What version? Best, Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of David Gordon > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:08 PM > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [L-TDM] Lock-SMPTE bug alert // WAS: automation bug > > Thanks for both of your responses. I did check the hyperdraw as Bob > suggested, but that was not the issue. > > Now, I found out what happened. I thought I posted something about > this in the last couple days but don't recall for sure. > > It turns out it is a Logic bug, but it's not specifically related to > automation. Actually this bug affected many of the events in the > song and turned into a much bigger problem. I worked around it, but > it is not solved and this song file is now damaged. > > Here is what happened: Someone gave my a file of 6/8 drum parts > recorded into Logic with the time sig set to 4/4. So to get the drum > parts properly lined up in 6/8, I used the Region > Lock SMPTE > Position command, then I changed the time sig and tempo to what was > needed. This worked great. The audio and midi parts were all lined > up nicely. I completed the song which has many tracks and plenty of > automation. > > Next, I needed to do a shorter version of the same song, so I used > the Region > Unlock SMPTE Position command and proceeded to cut some > stuff and drag around some regions. That's when I noticed the > automation bug and posted my query. Later I noticed that some of the > midi notes inside the sequences themselves had not moved when I > dragged the sequences - they still had the little SMPTE-Lock icon. > So I selected those notes and tried to unlock them in the event > editor. No luck, they stayed locked. I tried copying and pasting > the notes to a new regions. No change. Some randomly selected notes > through many sequences had become permanently locked. > > As I did more tests and continued working on the remix, I noticed > that the automation was even acting strangely when dragging with the > automation select tool. Multiple nodes would move just fine, but > some of the individual nodes would not move. > > So I opened the automation event editor (control-option-command-space > in my keyset). That showed the same problem as the midi regions of > some but not all of the events permanently locked. > > So the bottom line - I had to reconstruct some elements of the song > and I had to work around the regions with the locked notes and > construct my remix there. That solved this emergency, but it does > not explain how this happened. I also tried locking some SMPTE > positions in another test song and found that this bug is > intermittent, but it does happen regularly though not every time. > > What concerns me about this is that there are often reasons to lock > SMPTE positions and now I wonder if it's possible to use that > function. Certainly, whenever I do use it, I will first duplicate > the regions and keep copies that have not been locked in case I need > to reconstruct what happened. > > > - Dave
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