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From: "John Matthews" <Groovey@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 3:17:56 PM
Subject: Dennis Gunn- guitar god
Message #851
This is a reply to #842.
I just listened to your track about Rats in cages! I liked it. The singer sounds completely off his trolley- excellent, made me laugh. "The critics that have heard what I do say it is creative, but that > proves nothing." I'd say it is creative- and entertaining. Nice off the wall solo, let me know if you guys are going to play in the south East UK- Kent preferably. Cheers John Groovey Band website mail to : chickenjohn@... http://www.grooveyband.co.uk/ East Kent Morris Minor Club web site or ; john@... http://www.ekmm.co.uk Shake The Snake web site (other band) or ; john@... http://www.shakethesnake.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Gunn <mightyjohn@...> To: <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com> Sent: 28 June 2001 09:48 Subject: [L-OT] Creative? was: guitar gods > At 3:27 AM -0400 6/28/01, GAmoore@... wrote: > > >I'm not sure if that is true or not. I think too much training and > >learning does limit one's creativity. > > I don't know. Could it be that it just looks that way because people > who have limited creativity tend to try to overtrain to make up for > it? > > >Some composers are good at their instruments and some are average, > >but most of the really great musicians are never great composers. > > Jeff Beck wrote some pretty good songs. I really like Adrian Belew's > compositions and Jimi Hedrix and Frank Zappa's as well. If I recall > correctly Mozart was a prodigy on both Piano and Violin. And what > about Bach? Wasn't he renowned as a virtuoso organist? > > I guess I can't quite see where you are coming from there. > > > > >I now know you consider yourself very creative. > > So that is an invitation to account for myself? > > Let me see. > > Certainly I strive to be creative but that does not mean I am. > > People always ask me what kind of music my band plays and I have > always been at a loss to describe it. When I play it for them and > ask them what kind of music it is they can't tell me either. To the > avant guard indy crowd I generally hang with: It's pop. To pop > people it's avant guard. To the record stores it is something they > have a hard time placing. To me it is pop. > > I can play OK (after doing for 25 years I should be able to after > all) but am not the best guitarist around. So rather than > demonstrating the chops I don't have to the world I try to use my > head in such a way as to make things interesting. > > My personal taste runs to music that is generally regarded as > "difficult" by the main stream. When I listen to albums I have > played on I enjoy them and enjoy my contributions to them. Usually I > don't when they are fresh off the press but when I hear them 6 months > or a year later and have had a chance get the process of creating > them out of my mind I do. > > The critics that have heard what I do say it is creative, but that > proves nothing. > > Bottom line. In answer to your question yes I think I am creative, > after all it is my job. If I didn't think I was I would have to > choose another profession. As for the "Very", well, sometimes maybe, > but I am kind of lazy and that's not good. "Very" creative people > can't be lazy. > > In any case if you want to form your own opinion and or read that of > the critics you can follow the link in my signature. The page is > kind of out of date but there are some sounds there. I suppose I > should put some more on there but I'm lazy. > -- > > > Dennis Gunn > Mightyjohn@... > > check out MIGHTY JOHN HENRY's album "hot air head" > info at > http://www.twics.com/~mightyjo/home.html > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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From: "Sascha Franck" <saschafranck@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 3:22:51 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] guitar gods
Message #852
This is a reply to #850.
Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: > Guys, be a bit constructive and don't start arguing over silly things over > here too.... please! Nah!!! This is funny to read! Actually people even react more nicely on this list too. Sascha
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From: "Phil Angus" <phil.angus@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 3:42:37 PM
Subject: RE: [L-OT] guitar gods
Message #853
This is a reply to #850.
From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck [mailto:joeri@...] > etc etc... Hey hey... what's this supposed to be? Arguments, fightings and > name calling should be done on the LUG, not here! ;-)))) > Guys, be a bit constructive and don't start arguing over silly things over > here too.... please! Hey, Joeri, this is the right room for an argument after all! No it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is..... The wonders of copy and paste! Phil
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From: "Phil Angus" <phil.angus@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 4:22:11 PM
Subject: RE: [L-OT] Dennis Gunn- guitar god
Message #854
This is a reply to #851.
From: John Matthews [mailto:Groovey@...] conveyed: > I just listened to your track about Rats in cages! I liked it. The singer > sounds completely off his trolley- excellent, made me laugh. I had a listen as well. I like it. There is a huge void left after the sad demise of Mr Zappa who in my opinion was a real modern day genius, and for so many reasons (which is probably what make him a genius). I have heard loads of Zappa. Some of it interesting, some of it not particularly but most of it brilliant. His best album in my view is Apostrophe and closely followed by Sheik Yer Bouti and then... oh sod it, there are loads. I would like to hear something a bit more up to date (not that I think it is dated, just interested to hear some more stuff using the same technology as me (more or less). A kind of mixture of Beefheart, Zappa and...and...and....well, Gunn I am the slime oozing out from your TV set. Watch out where those huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow. I may be totally wrong but I'm a...dancing fooo..oo..oo..oo..ooooll, I'm a ........ I've got a nasty little jewish princess.... <sensored> Hey there kid's I'm Bobby Brown.... Hot rats, hot zitz..... deh...deh,deh,deh,deh,deh,deh, dehhhh, dehhh...(instrumental) deh didley didle deeh dee dee dee deeeeee (name that tune) Long live the music of FZ. PS I forgot him in my guitarist list. He played a mean solo or two, and of course was totally unique. Then again I did say me list was for that week only! Phil
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From: "Phil Angus" <phil.angus@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 5:48:50 PM
Subject: RE: [L-OT] guitar gods
Message #855
This is a reply to #853.
>He is not blaming Joeri because Joeri is blameless. >When there's more than one person doing something; indeed, when there's >quite a few people doing something; then it's a bit stupid to compile a >list of 'offending' individuals. What it really needs, as with any group, >is for each individual to consider whether or not they, personally, have >made a contribution to the situation. I quite agree Joeri is blameless. I never said he was to blame. He was moaning about the content of the list. Joeri is in charge. one and one makes two. I am not complaining about the list. >Since you want 'personal', I remember an incident involving you, not that >long ago, which would have been over in an instant if you had just rapidly >apologized for an off-the-cuff remark that you had made. Instead, you got >all defensive; it dragged on for weeks; and you only ended up doing anyway >what it was always obvious you would do ... which was apologize for the >fact that someone who didn't have your command of English had taken a >typically 'British English' 100% ironic remark completely the wrong way. >Fact is, the LUG member concerned DID take what you said the wrong way, and >by far the best way to have handled things then would have been simply for >you to have accepted, right from the outset, that that person had every >right not to know English as well as you did and so to respond to the >surface character of your remark and not to its deep implication. Might >have been obvious to YOU it was a joke, but it wasn't obvious to that >member. Next time this happens, please apologise faster. Immediately even, >OK? Would save the rest of us an AWFUL lot of aggravation and having to >wade through more pointless emails. Since we're talking 'personal' here. >Personal is what you wanted, wasn't it? Even more so, do what you seem to >have done ever since which is to watch it with those kinds of remarks. What makes you think I want personal? What is this all about? So now you want to get personal. This actually is total bollocks. You obviously don't remember as clearly as you claim. I made a remark which was a joke. People took it the wrong way and a small few jumped on the bandwagon in a barriage of attack. I was very quick to point out that whilst it was a joke, it could have been said in a more clear way, and I recognised the only reason why everyone got angry (well actually not everyone but a few) was due to my carelessness (I should have known that people who don't speak perfect English would read it differently) and I corrected it quickly. Effing weeks! I was relatively new to the list at that stage and it takes a while to get used to it and the way to make a point clearly. I don't know how you have got the nerve to bring that up again. The thread may have gone on for DAYS not weeks as you so very carefully exaggerate, but only after my point was cleared. And, yes I apologised, should have apologised, and the rest of it for not realizing that I should have known someone who doesn't have my command of English would have taken it the wrong way (how the hell could I know that I ask myself), but did I get an apology from anyone who realized afterwards they had misunderstood? All I got left with was the feeling I'd done something terrible which bloody aggravated me. I got called all sorts of bloody names, and it effing rankled me, so don't drag up that crap again. >Speaking personally, when I see someone refer to someone else as a $##$er >for no good reason I can see, I think that person is entitled to take that >remark personally, and I also wonder what on earth is the point in saying >it. Frankly, I have zero interest in watching the party of the first part >trying to humiliate the party of the second part in public in this childish >kind of way. Let them go duke it out in a succession of private emails and >then come back when it's all over. You must be incredibly laid back and always in control of your emotions. >It is also remarkable, on this list, how the same TEDIOUS subjects (don't >even get me started on mentioning them) come up time and time and time >again with exactly the same smart-aleck remarks being made about them by >often the same people. >Yes and huge long replies on the list. People come, people go, they may be tedious to you but they are virgin to a newcomer. >Why do you feel you have to leave with such words? >Because he is doing what YOU recommended. >Speaking with passion and emotion. >About something that he cares about. >Much like I am now. I don't doubt he was a valuable member. I just personally would rather go out with a smile, rather than one big negative. If and when I leave the list for whatever reason, shall I deliver a great negative speach about how the list is declining, or shall I thank everyone for their help and leave with a smile. >Well ... probably he was hoping that he would get his point across and >change things for the better. >If the following is the description of Fernando's post that you are >alluding to, then I have to ask: does it make YOU feel better when YOU post >idiotic remarks and pointless one-liners that others regard as 100% stupid >and time-wasting and that seem to serve no good purpose except to inflate >your own ego and to make YOU feel better? (Of course, and unlike me whose >information about Logic Audio 4.x is very limited, you also post some good >stuff and you have given me some great tips for which I thank you. I also >hope that this post of mine does not make YOU feel like leaving, either). No I don't. I don't post anything to feel big. I post because I either feel it's humorous at the time or I feel strongly about something, or it's relative to something or very occasionally something original!. It's a discussion for heavens sake not a computerised database. I would be rather worried if I suddenly realized posting to the list was some sort of ego boost! >Because, obviously, this was not enough for him. So it's best to sour the list with these, I've had enough postings. Why did he not simply email Joeri privately if he wanted to better the list as you suggest. >Please come back, Fernando. You probably did not learn anything from me, >but I learned a great deal from you; and I would like to keep doing so. I am sad he's gone too. I also feel sad that he felt the need to go out with that attitude. It's my opinion. I'm not asking you to agree with it but I don't expect you to start dragging up the past in some sort of backlash when nothing was directed towards you in the first place, especially as your information is greatly exaggerated, and your example was based on a big misunderstanding which at the end of the day was only due to multi language interpretation. I've already explained all this, why am I bothering to do it again? I don't feel the need to send this to the list, so it's gone OT And just so you know exactly what I am saying so there can be no doubt, It was not a personal attack against the man, only the action. I do not blame a list decline on Joeri as I don't agree it is in decline. There are a lot of OTs, but as so many have said before, the laziness of some peoples posts are far worse than a nice neat and tidy, easy to see, easy to destroy OT will ever be. I am against personal attacks as well, certainly of the sort you describe, but I don't claim to be perfect and I try not to be hypocritical. An argument, or disagreement can be quite healthy in many ways. Above all, I hate racism, and was glad to see the back of you know who. I've had my say, that's it. I'm not angry, another day, another dollar. Phil > Adam Pendse wrote: > Dear Emagic, > > Could u fix it for me to release LA 5 this week? > The natives are getting restless. PS Yes well, the real postings about this will be starting soon!
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From: david@...
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 5:48:06 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Dennis Gunn- guitar god
Message #856
This is a reply to #854.
--- In logic-ot@y..., "Phil Angus" <phil.angus@b...> wrote: > I am the slime oozing out from your TV set. > Watch out where those huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow. > I may be totally wrong but I'm a...dancing fooo..oo..oo..oo..ooooll, I'm a > ........ > I've got a nasty little jewish princess.... <sensored> > Hey there kid's I'm Bobby Brown.... > Hot rats, hot zitz..... > deh...deh,deh,deh,deh,deh,deh, dehhhh, dehhh...(instrumental) deh didley > didle deeh dee dee dee deeeeee (name that tune) > > Long live the music of FZ. > Phil And don't forget..."ramit, ramit, ramit, ramitupyur.........that's a classic. df
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From: Kool Musick <koolmusick@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 6:56:24 PM
Subject: RE: [L-OT] guitar gods
Message #857
This is a reply to #855.
Hi Phil, Read your post. Kool Musick Keep Musick Kool _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: "Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 7:29:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Thank you and See ya 'round
Message #858
Actually, while it's hard for me to speak of the LUG of 3 years ago and perhaps that's all Phil is referring to (I've been on about a year), there are lists/newgroups with more maturity and a better standard of discussion. Not jerk-less or without problems, but nonetheless other forums of size that engage in more healthy communication. I do think a lot of it is the large size of this group but I also think there are other, subcultural (LUG-subculture, not national/ethnic/whatever), reasons that this list has a lot of rancor and rudeness. I think it's too bad though not bad enough yet for me to jump ship. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Angus" <phila@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 2:09 AM Subject: [LUG] [GEN] Thank you and See ya 'round > > usually for perfectly good reasons. Your vision of the perfect list of > yesteryear is totally daft, and you leave giving the impression that > the list is in decline. If it is that bad then you should indeed blame
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From: Dennis Gunn <mightyjohn@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 9:19:56 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] guitar gods
Message #859
This is a reply to #849.
At 5:58 PM +0200 6/28/01, Hendrik Jan Veenstra wrote: > >I don't care what the dictionary says. Clearly. But if you are going to make up your own interpretations the words you are using and consider your own interpretations of those words more authoritative than those in the dictionary, of your second language to boot, well then what is there to say? Or more accurately what is there to say that you could not arbitrarily assign any meaning you want? And they call *me* arrogant. > Howard expressed a point of view. That might >as well be with the intention to "exchange thoughts" as with the >intention to "argue differing viewpoints with the hope of winning". > From his post I can only conclude the former was his intention, while >you make it sound as if the latter was. >While everybody praised the Good of Competition, all Howard did was >say "I've come to realise over the years that it's actually possible >to do things without competition playing a role". And now you say >that he's _debating_ his point of view, and suggesting that this too >is competition, with the intention of winning??? Whether *you* know it or not *Howard* did know that he was arguing a point that's why he prefaced his statement with "Hogwash". Whose meaning is to dismiss something that preceded as "useless, or insincere talk" as Websters puts it. But you don't believe in dictionaries so... >I don't even know >what to say to that as it's too bizarre... Well I guess since you don't accept the dictionary as defining the language you could say "unga booga Jelly Bean starfish pie" and that would be just as pertinent as anything else you've said so far. > > >After all, wouldn't it be pathetic >>>for a 38-year old to comete with 18-year olds? >> >>It would be particularly pathetic if the 18 year old looked in a >>dictionary whupped the 38 year olds butt. > >Oh, very strong argument... Thank you. In this instance, I agree. >How's your Dutch nowadays? Perfect I just make it up as I go. Who needs dictionaries? > >I am particularly reminded of the following true story: >>[...] >>So the next week when my favorite 3rd grade teacher told us that >>gravity was the result of the earth spinning. I kind of decided I >>knew about all I wanted to know to about teachers and started trying >>to concentrate on getting information from other sources. > >And I once heard a guy claim he was a great guitarist, but he >couldn't distinguish a C major from a Esus4, and he couldn't play >s***. Since then I've only listened to keyboard music. OK. To be honest I kept listening to teachers but the lesson I learned that had among the biggest impacts those days was to question authority and that sometimes you're right even when everyone around you including the authority is ridiculing you as a fool for holding a certain conviction. >But let me >assure you that generally I respect my students and they respect me. I am honestly glad to hear that. You were alarming me. >In the yearly "poll" I consistently come out as one of the more >popular teachers, both from a teaching perspective and from a >personal perspective. What is the purpose of these these yearly polls? Sounds like a popularity contest if ever there was one. >And I'm the only teacher who still has regular >contacts with ex-students, and whose ex-students (some of them, not >all of course) still come over at my place to have a beer from time >to time. It is clear to the reader that you feel you have won something that your peers have not. And you are proud of that. As you should be. So you emphasize that you are the only one who does maintain these ties. Therefore the clear implication is that you see your methods of dealing with the students as somehow superior to those other teachers who haven't achieved the popularity you claim. You juxtaposed your accomplishments against those of your peers and invited the reader to compare. Competition pure and simple. -- Dennis Gunn Mightyjohn@... check out MIGHTY JOHN HENRY's album "hot air head" info at http://www.twics.com/~mightyjo/home.html
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From: Dennis Gunn <mightyjohn@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 8:40:16 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Dennis Gunn- guitar god
Message #860
This is a reply to #851.
At 9:17 PM +0100 6/28/01, John Matthews wrote: >I just listened to your track about Rats in cages! I liked it. Thank you. >The singer >sounds completely off his trolley- excellent, made me laugh. That balanced individual would be me as well. >"The critics that have heard what I do say it is creative, but that >> proves nothing." > >I'd say it is creative- and entertaining. Thank you very much. That is gratifying basically all I was hoping to achieve. Well money would have been nice too but.. -- Dennis Gunn Mightyjohn@... check out MIGHTY JOHN HENRY's album "hot air head" info at http://www.twics.com/~mightyjo/home.html
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From: Dennis Gunn <mightyjohn@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 9:04:10 PM
Subject: RE: [L-OT] Dennis Gunn- guitar god
Message #861
This is a reply to #854.
At 10:22 PM +0100 6/28/01, Phil Angus wrote: > >I had a listen as well. I like it. There is a huge void left after the sad >demise of Mr Zappa... Although I don't make them myself he Zappa associations are always an honor. >I would like to hear something a bit more up to date (not that I think it is >dated, just interested to hear some more stuff using the same technology as >me (more or less). A kind of mixture of Beefheart, Zappa >and...and...and....well, Gunn Actually I recorded that in logic and the essentials of the system I use have not changed much except that back then I was using a Digidesign Session 8 which only gave me 8 tracks. As a lot of other artists have observed, the more limited system I was using back then seems to have made me more focused and productive than all the possibilities I have now. Or maybe I am just getting lazy and that sounds like a good excuse. And BTW Beefheart is THE MAN. Actually I was thrilled to have guitar god "Gary Lucas" who played in Beefheart's band when he made "Ice Cream For Crow" play on a cut of "hot air head". He was the only other guitarist my competitive nature allowed me to put on the album, and he has such a competitive nature that there is practically an explosion from the amp every time he plugs in. To be perfectly honest it made it pretty difficult to play with him. -- Dennis Gunn Mightyjohn@... check out MIGHTY JOHN HENRY's album "hot air head" info at http://www.twics.com/~mightyjo/home.html
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From: GAmoore@...
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 10:49:12 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] guitar gods / question authority
Message #862
>OK. To be honest I kept listening to teachers but the >lesson I learned that had among the biggest impacts >those days was to question authority and that >sometimes you're right even when everyone around >you including the authority is ridiculing you as a >fool for holding a certain conviction. As a teacher I can tell you that if people would quit questioning authority so damn much, and start listening to people who know more, and have been through the same things and learned to succeed, they would be a lot more successful. One time in a thousand that rebellious attitude is proven right, but every young turk always feels they know more than the geezers.
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From: Kool Musick <koolmusick@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 at 11:34:18 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Re: [LUG] [GEN] Thank you and See ya 'round
Message #863
This is a reply to #858.
Wison Zorn said: >there are lists/newgroups with more maturity and a better standard of >discussion. >Not jerk-less or without problems, but nonetheless other forums of size that >engage in more healthy communication. I do think a lot of it is the large >size of this group but I also think there are other, subcultural >(LUG-subculture, not national/ethnic/whatever), reasons that this list has a >lot of rancor and rudeness. I think it's too bad though not bad enough yet >for me to jump ship. Thank you. Thank you also for listening to what I said. Kool Musick Keep Musick Kool _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: Dennis Gunn <mightyjohn@...>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 12:01:43 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] guitar gods / question authority
Message #864
This is a reply to #862.
At 11:49 PM -0400 6/28/01, GAmoore@... wrote: > >OK. To be honest I kept listening to teachers but the > >lesson I learned that had among the biggest impacts > >those days was to question authority and that > >sometimes you're right even when everyone around > >you including the authority is ridiculing you as a > >fool for holding a certain conviction. > >As a teacher I can tell you that if people would quit questioning >authority so damn much, and start listening to people who know more, >and have been through the same things and learned to succeed, they >would be a lot more successful. One time in a thousand that >rebellious attitude is proven right, but every young turk always >feels they know more than the geezers. Having some experience as a teacher as well (playing abrasive music is not always the highest paying gig in town:-0) I would say I have to agree. But I have also found I had better have my facts straight, and/or when it turns out I don't, be willing to say "I appear to have made a mistake" or "I don't know" as the case applies. Otherwise the school turns into a rebel factory. -- Dennis Gunn Mightyjohn@... check out MIGHTY JOHN HENRY's album "hot air head" info at http://www.twics.com/~mightyjo/home.html
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From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 1:55:11 AM
Subject: [admin] Yahoogroups trouble
Message #865
Hi everyone, Yahoogroups seems to have some problems with the servers this week. This results in: - some posts/digests appearing several times (up to 10 times) for some people. - some posts to be delayed. Sorry for the inconvenience. I hope they can fix it asap. Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM
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From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 2:08:31 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Re: [LUG] [GEN] Thank you and See ya 'round
Message #866
This is a reply to #858.
> there > are lists/newgroups with more maturity and a better standard of discussion. > Not jerk-less or without problems, but nonetheless other forums of size that > engage in more healthy communication. I do think a lot of it is the large > size of this group but I also think there are other, subcultural Indeed. And that can be changed. It'll take a while, but it is possible! Stay tuned. :) -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM
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From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 2:24:05 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Weird Logic Bug
Message #867
This is a reply to #736.
> >I think this is a bug. (Logic Platinum Mac v4.7 and 4.72)..... > Why is this OT? 'cause it's about Logic. ;-))) -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM
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From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 2:27:34 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] guitar gods
Message #868
This is a reply to #855.
> I quite agree Joeri is blameless. I never said he was to blame. I think I am, so I'm taking up responsability now. I've begun taking action and although it'll take a big effort, it's worth it. > I don't feel the need to send this to the list, so it's gone OT For which I thank you! > I do not blame a list decline on Joeri as I don't agree it is in decline. Maybe it isn't, but it can definitely be improved a lot!!!! Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM
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From: "Zeek Duff" <zkduff@...>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 3:00:02 AM
Subject: Re:Re: guitar gods
Message #869
logic-ot@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Original Message: > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:58:03 +0200 > From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> > Subject: Re: guitar gods > > I once heard a guy claim he was a great guitarist, but he > couldn't distinguish a C major from a Esus4, and he couldn't play > s***. Since then I've only listened to keyboard music. > M'man, you've gone completely over the top. I suppose you think Duke Ellignton and Nat "King" Cole could read or write note one of music notation. You'd be wrong, about as wrong as the asinine statement you made above... Maybe the guy wasn't trying to play "s***" and that's your problem. You are. :) Regards, ...z You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers... -- =---Seek the truth, speak the truth!---= -- L.G. "Zeek" Duff WHAT!Productions! Blue Wall Studio 303.485.9438 ICQ#35974686
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 3:01:14 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] guitar gods
Message #870
This is a reply to #859.
Thoughts from the mind of Dennis Gunn, 29-06-2001: >And they call *me* arrogant. Ignorant would be a better word. But I'm sorry, I'm through with this discussion. We could go on for another couple of weeks and only irritate each other more and more. I don't want that, and I don't have the time for that. And right now I got other things on my mind that are more relevant than conducting a pointless exchange of misunderstandings. If it's all about competition: ok, you've won. I'm arrogant. I twist dictionary definitions. I do whatever the Lord has forbidden. That's all cool with me. Really, there are more important things in my life than "winning" a debate. Hope you like the taste of victory. Enjoy it while it lasts, as it's usually such a short-lived pleasure. cheers, HJ -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra email: mailto:h@... www: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html
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From: GAmoore@...
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 3:37:36 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [L-OT] guitar gods
Message #871
I wish more people would say this. I haven't said it outloud, but I have said to myself and started deleting all the messages with certain headers after a certain point. >But I'm sorry, I'm through with >this discussion.
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From: yoonchi@...
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 7:17:32 AM
Subject: The role of a list 'moderator'
Message #872
Now I've got something to say about moderation and Joeri. IMO, it's not Joeri's job to tell people how to behave on a mailing list, unless they are conducting themselves in a way that they start to annoy others or deteriorate the function of the list. Many of us have had the urge to reply, as soon as we see a subject we want to say something about. As long as everyone's happy with the way these replies are and you respect the other person's opinion, you've got things smoothly running. That is as long as not everyone on the list starts replying to the same subject at the same time. The LUG is like what? 5000+ readers? If we all started replying to each and every mail, I bet the mailing list would become practically non-functional. So, before I mail something, I always take the time to read the subjects that interest me. It's impossible to read all 150+ mails everyday; I have another life besides this mailing list, :-). This way I moderate myself. Gives Joeri a break, :-). Once a while a joke is ok, it's fun reading these. But if some joke becomes a week long thread, you should try to restrict yourself from sending a mail in reply of it. May be a cool crack at the joke, but then send it to the person himself, off-list. How about we start moderating ourselves? If you want to reply to me personal, that's ok. But I can't promise to reply soon. My work eats so much of my time, :-). Peace, Yoonchi.
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From: GAmoore@...
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 12:07:38 PM
Subject: T&A.....real names?
Message #873
Are people really named "Tit" and "Ass"? I see a lot of names of all nationalities as a teacher but never these two. >From: daz@... (Ass Smith) >Reply-to: logic-users@yahoogroups.com >To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com >> I recently installed my audiophile soundcard and it works fine. I can >> record in peak, but seem not to be able to record in logic. I don't >> get any input signal in the audio mixer. I'm able to import samples >> from peak, though. Anybody out there who could give me some advice? >> Any help appreciated, >> Tit > >What is your computer set-up? >Ass
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From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 12:22:18 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] T&A.....real names?
Message #874
This is a reply to #873.
> >From: daz@... (Ass Smith) > > Are people really named "Tit" and "Ass"? I see a lot of names of all > nationalities as a teacher but never these two. ROFL. :-)) I was thinking the same thing... (sorry for the "me too" message :-) -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM
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From: "Phil Angus" <phil.angus@...>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 at 6:06:51 PM
Subject: RE: [L-OT] guitar gods
Message #875
This is a reply to #857.
I've read it. What am I looking for?! -----Original Message----- From: Kool Musick [mailto:koolmusick@...] Sent: 29 June 2001 00:56 To: logic-ot@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [L-OT] guitar gods Hi Phil, Read your post. Kool Musick Keep Musick Kool _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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