Hi I'm not sure this is the best place to ask, but I thought I'd try. I am thinking about buying a Macbook. I have Logic 7.2 on my Mac Pro, but it was bought as an upgrade to Logic Express. What I was thinking was that if I bought the Logic Express 7.2 upgrade CD I could run Logic Express on my laptop without the need to carry my XSKey around, negating the chance of losing it. What I was hoping to ask was, is this possible or acceptable (to Apple) or do I need to buy a whole new copy? Thanks Simon

Hi, I'm sorry if this is redundant, but I'm not quite sure how to search for this in the archives. I have an old analog tape recorded at 3 and a half ips. If I play this back at 7 ips (I don't have 3 and a half any more) and digitize it at 9600, is there a way I could simply rename the file as a 4800 one and thus have both the correct pitch and tempo. I just want to play back the 9600 file at half speed; it seems that that would be simple enough . . . . Is this a Logic ability or is it just a file ability? I have Logic Express, not Pro. Thanks all, Lisa

I want to have an authentic tape delay effect. I want to automate the feedback and maybe other parameters to make dub reggae in a 70's style and fashion. I am confident in UAD-1 effects and will probably just buy it anyway. I don't think the Logic tape delay is as good as a tape delay plug in could sound. Plus you can't do that effect where you change the tape speed. Can the UAD-1 RE-201 do that? Roman.

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Roman Pirie <romanp@...> wrote: > > I want to have an authentic tape delay effect. I want to automate the > feedback and maybe other parameters to make dub reggae in a 70's style > and fashion. > I am confident in UAD-1 effects and will probably just buy it anyway. > I don't think the Logic tape delay is as good as a tape delay plug in > could sound. Plus you can't do that effect where you change the tape > speed. Can the UAD-1 RE-201 do that? > Roman. > Hi Roman, Although its technically a BBD (bucket brigade device) rather than tape delay emulation, have a look at Dubstation by Audio Damage. It sounds perfect for dub, and the saturation/ feedback is pretty spot on. Best of all its $200 cheaper ;-) Mike

The ultimate delay is Echoboy. It emulates Echoplex, Space Echo, and various bucket brigade devices - maybe about 30 different emulations including studio tape slap back. Plus is has analog overdrive emulation. There are also four different echo modes that can be used in any of the 30 device emulations - ping pong, dual single, rhymic echo - you can even draw in little bars for any custom complicated echo you might want. http://www.soundtoys.com/products/EchoBoy/ It comes as part of a larger package that includes some other cool plugs too. Soundtoys was Protools and TDM only and are really high quality, but they have expanded to AU too. If you are interested to buy for discount, checkout the Logic_Cafe yahoo list where they mentioned that there's a dealer willing to sell Soundtoys, and other plugins at better prices than most of the regular places. (I have no connection to Soundtoys or that dealer by the way - just want to pass on some info.) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi I´m a quite experienced logicuser , both on sequensing, recording, producing and scoring. Now, in 7.2 I´m experiencing problems with layout settings, i.e. page numbers refuse to appear... I´m running Logic 7.2 on MacBook Pro . When importing older Logic songs ( version 6 and older) , Logic often crashes when dealing with score layout cut and paste. My advice is to use "save as " when importing old songs, and give a new name. How does one move ahead to tell the developers at Apple? Ah

Hi I want to be able to record DJ Mixes through Logic, currently when I record in it comes up with time left 15mins, does anyone know how I can extend this ? Running G4 Dual 1Ghz

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "Nickdalodger" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by Nickdalodger <Nickcsback@...>: > > Hi > > I want to be able to record DJ Mixes through Logic, currently when I record > in it comes up with time left 15mins, does anyone know how I can extend this > ? > > Running G4 Dual 1Ghz > 'A' on your keyboard should get you to the song based recording settings (set audio record path). In that window you should see a field for max recording time, you can also turn it off. Mike

I actually have these samples on a sample cdrom called 'dance mega drums' but it is not reading properly. I am creating an 80's drum machine kit from the following drum machines: Oberheim DMX Oberheim DX Sequential Circuits Drumtraks Emu Drumulator Linn LM-1 Linn 9000 etc Linn Drum those sort of drum machines. In the late 80's early 90's Jamaican reggae was dominated with a sound mostly created by the Oberheim DX in the hands of 'Steely and Clevie'. This is the main reason I am putting together these sounds. To emulate this era of reggae dancehall. Yeah my akai cdrom must be scratched or something. I can load some of them but I want to make sure all the drum sounds from each machine are included in this kit. Thanks yall. Roman.

I am having trouble with my M-tron plug-in since I rearranged some files on my hard-drive. The plug-in still fires up OK within Logic but it cannot find it's data files to load up sounds. If anyone else is a PC user with M-tron, can they check where the M-Tron data files are kept? Not the DLL or plug-in itself, but it's bank of sound data. Muchos Gracias friends... Joe Joe Public Studios, London

I compare my recordings to music I like of the last 40-50 years and my stuff is soooo clean and thin sounding. I want more meat in my sounds. I listen to alot of 70's jamaican reggae and the drums and everything just sound way fuller. I bought an 'SPL Charisma 2' tube processor. I haven't used it alot yet. I think tape is a way better distortion but I will use this tube thing fairly sublty because I really want anything that will bring me closer to an thick analogue sound. I have the UAD-1 plug ins and I am sure they help. But not enough. I am just wondering what the experts are using at the moment. I remember alot of praise for certain expensive boxes like 'fatso' and 'distressor' and crane song or something. I wish the UAD-1 had a really good tape emulation. I am going to buy a quality 2 track tape machine and bounce the finished mixes to that as well. I think being able to individually process sounds as if they were all going to there own track on a 24 track tape machine would be ideal. Maybe people run sounds through stuff to get closer to the tape sound. Damn my recordings sound clean. Especially when it's all instruments miced and drum machines and keyboards. Way too clean and thin. I realise the common answers to this question are tube compressors and maybe analogue mixers with warmth etc. I guess I am really inquiring what the current favourites are. This will be an area I want to research and progress with. I want a thicker sound. Right now my thinking is to: Run sounds through and old analogue mixer. I am currently using a Mackie 1604VLZ. Process through my tube processor or something else. Try to mix with plug ins to add thickness. Bounce to tape with some tape compression. Roman.

A great sounding recording begins with the musician playing the instrument. After that, comes the instrument itself. It would be wise to make sure that you are using the highest quality sounds that you can find. Spend time grooming your sounds before you actually lay them down. Make sure you have a proper monitor system. A well tuned room can do plenty for your sound. If you are recording acoustic instruments, be sure you have at least one really good mic pre, and a decent mic. If you are recording electric bass or guitar, make sure your instrument has the sound you want and make sure you have a head that amplifies the way you like. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Roman Pirie <romanp@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:25:26 To:logic-ot@yahoogroups.com Subject: [L-OT] What are the best ways to make our clean digital recordings more like analogue tape? I compare my recordings to music I like of the last 40-50 years and my stuff is soooo clean and thin sounding. I want more meat in my sounds. I listen to alot of 70's jamaican reggae and the drums and everything just sound way fuller. I bought an 'SPL Charisma 2' tube processor. I haven't used it alot yet. I think tape is a way better distortion but I will use this tube thing fairly sublty because I really want anything that will bring me closer to an thick analogue sound. I have the UAD-1 plug ins and I am sure they help. But not enough. I am just wondering what the experts are using at the moment. I remember alot of praise for certain expensive boxes like 'fatso' and 'distressor' and crane song or something. I wish the UAD-1 had a really good tape emulation. I am going to buy a quality 2 track tape machine and bounce the finished mixes to that as well. I think being able to individually process sounds as if they were all going to there own track on a 24 track tape machine would be ideal. Maybe people run sounds through stuff to get closer to the tape sound. Damn my recordings sound clean. Especially when it's all instruments miced and drum machines and keyboards. Way too clean and thin. I realise the common answers to this question are tube compressors and maybe analogue mixers with warmth etc. I guess I am really inquiring what the current favourites are. This will be an area I want to research and progress with. I want a thicker sound. Right now my thinking is to: Run sounds through and old analogue mixer. I am currently using a Mackie 1604VLZ. Process through my tube processor or something else. Try to mix with plug ins to add thickness. Bounce to tape with some tape compression. Roman.

--- Roman Pirie <romanp@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > I am going to buy a quality 2 track tape machine and > bounce the > finished mixes to that as well. > Isn't this your answer right here? This should give you everything you are looking for. JP

Man, this answer sux. If you do what is said below you will end up with an even "cleaner sound" than the one you want to "dirty" up. If I'm mistaken, let me know. zulujames@earthlink.net wrote: A great sounding recording begins with the musician playing the instrument. After that, comes the instrument itself. It would be wise to make sure that you are using the highest quality sounds that you can find. Spend time grooming your sounds before you actually lay them down. Make sure you have a proper monitor system. A well tuned room can do plenty for your sound. If you are recording acoustic instruments, be sure you have at least one really good mic pre, and a decent mic. If you are recording electric bass or guitar, make sure your instrument has the sound you want and make sure you have a head that amplifies the way you like. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Roman Pirie Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:25:26 To:logic-ot@yahoogroups.com Subject: [L-OT] What are the best ways to make our clean digital recordings more like analogue tape? I compare my recordings to music I like of the last 40-50 years and my stuff is soooo clean and thin sounding. I want more meat in my sounds. I listen to alot of 70's jamaican reggae and the drums and everything just sound way fuller. I bought an 'SPL Charisma 2' tube processor. I haven't used it alot yet. I think tape is a way better distortion but I will use this tube thing fairly sublty because I really want anything that will bring me closer to an thick analogue sound. I have the UAD-1 plug ins and I am sure they help. But not enough. I am just wondering what the experts are using at the moment. I remember alot of praise for certain expensive boxes like 'fatso' and 'distressor' and crane song or something. I wish the UAD-1 had a really good tape emulation. I am going to buy a quality 2 track tape machine and bounce the finished mixes to that as well. I think being able to individually process sounds as if they were all going to there own track on a 24 track tape machine would be ideal. Maybe people run sounds through stuff to get closer to the tape sound. Damn my recordings sound clean. Especially when it's all instruments miced and drum machines and keyboards. Way too clean and thin. I realise the common answers to this question are tube compressors and maybe analogue mixers with warmth etc. I guess I am really inquiring what the current favourites are. This will be an area I want to research and progress with. I want a thicker sound. Right now my thinking is to: Run sounds through and old analogue mixer. I am currently using a Mackie 1604VLZ. Process through my tube processor or something else. Try to mix with plug ins to add thickness. Bounce to tape with some tape compression. Roman. Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.

I have recorded from my mackie 1604 vlz into my M-Audio Quattro to Logic. Which is ok and the more we here stuff produced on equipment the more we will be accustomed to the "sound" But my recordings from my old early 80's 12 channel powered Yamaha board into a 70's Technics 1/4" 2 track sound way better and more like a professional recording from the 70's - 80's which kick ass. james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com> wrote: --- Roman Pirie <romanp@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > I am going to buy a quality 2 track tape machine and > bounce the > finished mixes to that as well. > Isn't this your answer right here? This should give you everything you are looking for. JP --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

If you print a thin sound to analog tape; you will end with a noisey thin sound. Roman was asking a multi-part question. You need to saturate your sound before it even hits tape or digital. The instruments, mic pre's, heads, and mics you use are very important to achieving that.

Yeah, your are correct. I apologize for being an ass. I do drive the the levels from the board to the tape pretty hard. But I don't have any high end gear. Actually low grade equipment is all I have but still get a well balanced mix and that "sound" I believe the origional poster was refering to. That was the reason I said what I said. --- zulujames@earthlink.net wrote: > If you print a thin sound to analog tape; you will > end with a noisey thin sound. Roman was asking a > multi-part question. You need to saturate your > sound before it even hits tape or digital. The > instruments, mic pre's, heads, and mics you use are > very important to achieving that. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Logic OT - new web forums! > http://logic-users.org/forums/L-OT > - Search the entire archive: > http://logic-users.org/forums/L-OT/search > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email > logic-ot-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/

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On Sep 25, 2007, at 7:52 AM, logic-ot@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > 1a. What are the best ways to make our clean digital recordings > more lik > Posted by: "Roman Pirie" romanp@xtra.co.nz romanpnz > Date: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:28 pm ((PDT)) > > I compare my recordings to music I like of the last 40-50 years and my > stuff is soooo clean and thin sounding. I want more meat in my sounds. > I listen to alot of 70's jamaican reggae and the drums and everything > just sound way fuller. What you are hearing is the sound of 1-inch 8-track and 2-inch 16 track. Also, the studios in Jamaica are wired for 240volts - makes a big difference to the low end. The only plug-in I can think of that might come close to giving you something near to that is the new URS Strip Pro. HTH Mars

Hi, I'm looking at a new drive to put in my Mac Pro Dual 2,66. It's purpose will be to use it real time audio and to store projects. Here's what I found : Seagate 750 GB SATA II 7200 RPM 16 mb Specifications 750 GB Model Number ST3750640AS Interface SATA 3.0Gb/s Cache 16 MBytes Capacity 750 GB Guaranteed Sectors 1,465,149,168 PERFORMANCE Spindle Speed 7,200 rpm Average latency 4.16 msec Random read seek time <8.5 msec Random write seek time <10.0 msec Is this drive ok for real-time use and back-up ? Buffer size 16 mb OK ? 300 mb transfer data ok ? Is this a good ( best ) choice for Mac Pro 2 x 2,66 GHz ? Any thoughts and comments welcome ! Peter

On Oct 7, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Peter Keereman wrote: > I'm looking at a new drive to put in my Mac Pro Dual 2,66. > It's purpose will be to use it real time audio and to store > projects. I for one would not use anything larger than 250 GB for real time audio. Guess I'd rather put a 750 GB one for system or backups, and 250 GB ones for real time work... Just my $0.02. Best, Andy

On Oct 7, 2007, at 11:14 PM, I wrote: > I for one would not use anything larger than 250 GB for real time > audio. Guess I'd rather put a 750 GB one for system or backups, and > 250 GB ones for real time work... Just my $0.02. ...And here's why: On Sep 14, 2007, at 11:26 PM, Sascha Franck wrote regarding a test performed by a German magazine: > > their SATA comparison, two Seagate Barracudas with 250GB capacity > made it > to the first two places (I actually don't even know the differences > between > the two, the one ranking first has the model number ST3250410AS). > They seem > to be truly quiet as well. > Their IDE drives are ranking quite high, too. > > Fwiw, this test seemed to reveal that larger drives (anything > larger than > 250GB) wouldn't be that fast anymore, the transfer rate numbers are > really > going down for anything larger (the only real exception was again a > Seagate > Barracuda 750GB, but that one is IDE). > > Now, I am not sure how well all these tests relate to real world > useage, I > also don't know whether the results would be identical on Macs > (they tested > on PCs), but to me it seems that if you want truly fast drives, > SATA ones > with up to 250GB storage space are the way to go. > > Regards > Sascha

Thanks for your reply Sascha. Peter

I have a JL Cooper synapse 16 channel midi programmer & JL Cooper MSB + Rev 2 8 channel midi programmer one of which I will be be integrating into my Logic Pro 7 system. The JL Cooper pdf manual gives a few examples but is not very clear on how to split & zone the keyboards, select two patches in two registers,transpose, adjust velocity and then write all this information to memory. After you have your routings configured at what point do you write all of the information for it to be a working patch? I have all of my routing for 12 selections in memory. Has there ever been a step by step manual on how to do each of these commands, or any kind of tutorial for the synapse? The MSB+ rev 2 I'm sure is similar and at JL Cooper nobody knows anything about products unless they are new. Any help would be appreciated. Prokey

Hello! I just started sampling my vintage goods, and created this EXS patch to try. Here is my first one. http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid-145FB56B37236 B For any logic user to Enjoy. Gonna create a Jupiter 8 patch, and Memorymoog patch tonight hopefully. Peace -Metzger