> > out of curiousity: > > Did Focusrite emulate the devices and adapt the parameters for each > model or did they emulate the sound and made it compatible to their > parameter concept? In other words, can you setup one compressor or EQ > and switch to other models to look what sounds best or do you have to > concentrate on favorite models which you know and handle them as if > they where individual boxes? They use an emulation package that I won't attempt to explain here but it is well documented on line. In very basic terms, they do an impulse response test on amps, compressors, etc and model that response. Pretty cool stuff and amazingly accurate. You could (and I did) take 3 Neve preamps and not be able to tell the difference between their emulation and the preamps. In fact, the emulation sounded better than one of the preamps! I've not done the same with the EQs but I suspect it is similar. I REALLY like the EQ modeling and the fact that you can design your own EQ. The hardware connection is much simpler to use than screen interfaces although in most cases, both are provided. Loading and switching in between models is easy but not as simple as a rack of compressors or EQs only due to switching times. I don't find it to be a problem. Brian

On 21.09.2006, at 15:28, Brian Mikiten wrote: > ... > ... > Loading and switching in between models is easy but not as simple as > a rack of compressors or EQs only due to switching times. I don't > find it to be a problem. Yes, that is certainly no problem. I guess even if you want to change the model right in the track you can have a second instance, probably create a second track for that part. Thanks for your informative description. Although I am no longer sure if the investment in a handful of plugins was the best idea I've had this year ;-) ___ Peter Ostry

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Peter Ostry <po@...> wrote: > Anyway, to keep you from getting bored :-) here are some thoughts > about that setup: > > Three drives are the minimum for a RAID 5. You cannot have a "hot > spare" in such a set, which would automatically jump in if one drive > fails. You could set it up with 4 or five disks and one or two hot > spares. BUT - the RAID might get remarkable slower if one drive > fails. I do not know if one can record in such a situation. > Furthermore, if you are really forced to recover the data (and you > are in my opinion) you are most likely unable to record on that RAID > for an hour or more while it rebuilds the set. And these controllers > have no mercy and are definitely unpatient: one wrong answer from a > drive and the switch it off immidiately. That just as explanation > that you are still not on the safe side for an outdoor job. > > Please be aware that we don't talk about a setup for everyone but > about as much security as possible for a (I think) given budget. > Therefore we have to apply a higher level of criticism and to be more > scared than necessary. > > It depends how you use that setup. If time is critical, outdoors or > inhouse, it could be better to setup two mirrors because they don't > lose speed after a drive failure (just my 2 cents). > > If you do many location recordings without delivering the playback a > RAID 5 could still be perfect if you keep enough space free on the > system mirror or carry a spare drive with you. On a bad day that can > save your ass because although you have no security you CAN record > that way. And no security at one occasion is not as bad as it sounds. > Thousands of people are used to record that way :-) > > ___ > Peter Ostry > Hey Peter I was looking at some help files on my Mac and ran across this after reading your raid post again . thought you might be interested: After you create a RAID set, the RAID software manages storing files on the disks in the set for you. If you have sufficient disks, you can create more than one RAID set. For example, you can set up one set as a mirrored RAID set to provide data redundancy, and another set as a striped RAID set to provide faster performance. I guess we found out two things about my mac 1) you can have two different raid set-ups and 2) I guess it is a software controller on here

On 22.09.2006, at 05:08, garygenn wrote: > Hey Peter I was looking at some help files on my Mac and ran across > this after reading > your raid post again . thought you might be interested: > After you create a RAID set, the RAID software manages storing > files on the disks in the set > for you. > > If you have sufficient disks, you can create more than one RAID > set. For example, you can > set up one set as a mirrored RAID set to provide data redundancy, > and another set as a > striped RAID set to provide faster performance. Ah, good to know. I had never a software RAID on the Mac. Good feature, certainly. Although I don't think that people who need two arrays would do it with a software RAID. And I wonder how the drives are connected ... However, their suggestion is close to an ideal stationary setup for speed and security which would be: 1. A RAID 1 (two mirrored disks) for operating system and applications. 2. A RAID 0 (two or more, striped) for the data. 3. A second RAID 0 which is a mirror of the other one (remember, RAID 0 has no redundancy at all). That setup is known as RAID 10 or RAID 0/1 because type 0 and 1 are involved. It requires at least 6 disks. Data gets written to all almost simultaneously. Expect some noise. I think we can state that everybody who wants speed and security for video, audio or fast databases wants such a system but few have it. > I guess we found out two things about my mac 1) you can have two > different raid set-ups > and 2) I guess it is a software controller on here Yep. You obviously already know what to look for. If you are not a software technician and do not have a technician available all the time you may be better off with hardware. If a drive fails in a hardware array then a light at the drive bay goes on, the drive gets disabled, you change the disk and compose a short song or do some smalltalk while the RAID recovers. Not that easy in software. I don't know the Mac solution but I remember well the few occasions where a disk in a Unix software array failed (Internet server stuff), the sweat and swearing of the admin and the great relief after he got it fixed. Of course a hardware controller can fail too. In this case you are lucky if a replacement controller sees the array as it were its own. Few people discuss that with the manufacturer before their purchase. Some people even don't trust the manufacturer and buy two systems. But that starts to go into dimensions beyound our usual budget. --- I guess we are almost through, let me add some final notes: There should always be at least one spare disk available. Some systems need identical drives, in that case it is wise to get more spares in advance. Running such a system is not cheap ;-) If you setup a RAID 5 or 1, take some time for a test: initialize the array, write some data to it. Then turn everything off and disconnect one disk. Start the array and computer again and see what happens. You ought to know the situation and the recovery process for the time when it happens in reality. A manufacturer of a disk maintainance and recovery program had the following statement on the first manual page: "It is not the question if a drive fails. The question is when." Second, be aware that a RAID is no substitution for a backup. If the controller fails you can be out of business. Some big environments consist of identical hardware RAIDs on different locations without other backup, certainly not what we are talking about. You need a reliable backup software with easy and fast recovery of single files, folders and probably whole disks. Best for that is most likely a sequential backup via Ethernet with Retrospect (server version), today rather to harddisks than to tape. You can run Retrospect on an older computer, I would say the speed is not very important in this case. Of course the machine should not be too slow because you might want to backup other machines too. Retrospect Server is rather expensive, a Windows version is available. The latter closes the circle. Since backup is required I would rather go for a good backup solution first which might need more than one disk but not necessarily a RAID although (software) RAID 5 would be fine. A RAID for production might be necessary for video and fine for audio but has definitive a lower priority. Running a RAID is more fun than running a backup system but well, it is, hm ... your choice, your data ;-) ___ Peter Ostry

Listen, I'm a recent Logic user as well... For an Apple product, I was blown away at the ridiculous complexity of setting up this program. I'm no idiot, I work in television as an editor and know all the professional Avid products quite well. But when I wanted to start composing music as an outlet and/or side business, I couldn't for the life of me get Logic to work. Until I went to MacProVideo.com! (cue info-mercial music here LOL) -They have a downloadable tutorial on Logic's Environment as well as other facets of the Logic program... Without it I would've never been able to get to making music. And it sounds like we have siimilar set ups; ie you have external MIDI synths that you want to incorporate with your software synths etc... Hope this helps! go to: http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/logicEnvironment Let me know if you like it. I've bought other tutorials in this series & learned quite a bit from them! charlie

I am programming a database application which should display several audio levels as a bargraph (one by one, not simultanesously). I can only process keyboard events (like if a user typed something). I heard that there is a program which converts MIDI to keyboard events which would be an option. Didn't try it yet because another question is still open: if I connect a mic to the Mac - how can I convert a volume level to MIDI data? Any ideas? Maybe a cheap hardware? No MaxMSP solution please unless it is already programmed. Thanks in advance, Peter Ostry

ANYONE HAVE INFOMATION ON SETTING UP AND USING THIS DEVICE WITH LOGIC PRO 7.2? I AM A NEW MEMBER AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME USING THE FORUM, SO PLEASE BE GENTLE WITH ME. THANKS THUNDER

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "R.T.LEFTWICH" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by R.T.LEFTWICH <THUNDER@...>: > > ANYONE HAVE INFOMATION ON SETTING UP AND USING THIS DEVICE WITH LOGIC PRO > 7.2? I AM A NEW MEMBER AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME USING THE FORUM, SO PLEASE > BE GENTLE WITH ME. > THANKS > > THUNDER > Dude, stop shouting. No help with the question, unfortunately. Paul.

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I am a total newbie to desktop audio monitors, I am conventionally a video editor, not a sound mixer. I want to purchase the v4's for a preliminary rough mix, but I'm wondering how easy it is to hook up to my new Mac Pro. What cables can I use? DO I need anything in between the monitors and the computer? Thanks.

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On 28 sep 2006, at 03.03, Roman Pirie wrote: > Holla. I once had a Juno 106 and I remember it had no local midi off. But in Logic I could set that particular MIDI channel to "no through" (MIDI filtering section, I think) so it worked well as a sound module AND a controller. (I liked the option to set the Juno to play filters on incoming pitch bend data) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom

I asked this question before on LUG but only got ,"well you have a loop somewhere'" please I need more info , I can tell you this the metronome is set to inst 128 KLOPF Geist and everything llooks "normal" this si the weird thing , if I go to enviroment and click on midi click and teun off all the midi ports the metronome does what is is suppose to do. , I can even use Fw 1884 control port ( I use a tascam 1884) and it is ok but if it on a actual midi oirt like 1-4 on my tascam or axiomand i hit record it is actually recording notes whter or not the metronome is on

> --- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "R.T.LEFTWICH" <forums@> wrote: > > > > Message posted by R.T.LEFTWICH <THUNDER@>: > > > > ANYONE HAVE INFOMATION ON SETTING UP AND USING THIS DEVICE WITH > LOGIC PRO > > 7.2? I AM A NEW MEMBER AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME USING THE FORUM, SO > PLEASE > > BE GENTLE WITH ME. > > THANKS > > > > THUNDER > > --- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "horselesspaul" <paul@...> wrote: > > Dude, stop shouting. > No help with the question, unfortunately. > > Paul. >I can try to help need more info though, what is happening

I have many sample CDs. But only a few are my core library. My experience is that many libraries have the same sounds as others. Every keyboard/module has the 808/909 kits etc. I like to collect drums but not buy the same ones again and again. My core original libraries I use are: Akai MPC sound library (mostly drums that are quality akai library drums and some drum machine stuff in there two, but heaps of good acoustic and synthy drums) 116 electric drum machines (collection of drum machine hits, way too many of those old organ analogue drums but good for the other drum machines, except the kits are definately not the complete libraries of each drum machine) Dance Mega Drums Vol 1 (same as 116 drum machines except it has some drum machines not on the other) Real breakbeat libraries from a few different sources (I am a long time rap music production fan and breakbeats are the real hip hop sound to me, cut them up, layer them etc, I reCycle all breaks these days and change the patterns, essential and used to be the pride and joy of hip hop producers to have a fresh break, still quite tricky to track heaps of them down but they are out there) Alesis DM Pro, DM 5 and D4 libraries (got this disc from eBay and it is good quality, organised and edited) Akai 2000 percussion sounds. New York City drum works and percussion works The only other drum sources I can think of would be to get the Mo Phatt drums, Motif, Triton, Roland flagship module. What I wanted to convey was my experience of drum sample libraries and try to communicate what I think creates an extensive drum library without too many repeat sounds. This was so I can get more accurate opinions on what other goods original content drum libraries are out there. I know you are probably thinking I should shut up and use the ones I've got. It's a habit for me to hear new drum sounds. Plus every record of live or programmed drums inspires me to emulate that drum sound. One day I'll be recording and producing real drums and trying to make them sound like Gregory Isaacs 'Night nurse' album. I sock around the snare coil I heard to get the dead reggae snare. EQing is important. I wish there were drum libraries of vinyl drums sampled from records. I bought those eBay vinyl drum libraries and they are a scam IMO, many repeats and faded so quickly there is no vinyl ambience making them too clean. Oh well I can always sample my own old records, always fun. What acoustic drum libraries are quality. I like the dead short sharp reggae drum sound of the 70's. But most acoustic drum samples are very open airy 80's rock style sounds. Maybe I could use the amplitude envelopes to decay them so they are deader but that's not the same as having a nice dead drum sample. I really prefer breakbeat and vinyl drums most of the time because of the grit and character. I want to get a tube processor to see if that iimproves clean drum samples to sound more like a record. It would be good to have drum libraries that have dry punchy reggae, disco, funk, rock, soul drums like from the late 60's early 70's. I do have 'retrofunk' or whatever that sample cdrom is called. Haven't gone through all of it yet. Yeah I want 60s and 70s drum production. Roman.

Ok,I just bought the hitkit,and Im having trouble recording,I read a bit of the manual and it says to click on the "R" button next to the "M" The problem is that there is no "R" next to the "M" Just the M is there by itself withouot anything else. Can anybody help me please? If you have AIM please IM me at LilBallazG001,and if you have MSN please contact me at LilBallazG01@verizon.net,please I really need help.

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "Bryan" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by Bryan <LilBallazG001@...>: > > Ok,I just bought the hitkit,and Im having trouble recording,I read a bit of > the manual and it says to click on the "R" button next to the "M" The > problem is that there is no "R" next to the "M" Just the M is there by > itself withouot anything else. Can anybody help me please? If you have AIM > please IM me at LilBallazG001,and if you have MSN please contact me at > LilBallazG01@...,please I really need help. > Hi, had a bit of a search and found this faq for you; http://www.dorlingkindersley-uk.co.uk/static/cs/uk/11/features/hitkit/faqs.h tml#two Mike

The Yamaha SY77 will do bulk dumps of sequences & voices by MIDI, but using software to capture it such as Cakewalk, only yields a single controler event. What kind of software would I need to back up & restorre a library of voices? I used to do this with the floppy drive, but it broke.

Well I managed to fit my problem into the subject line. If I insert an audio CD into the G5 it always sees it on the desktop. If I put in a DVD in the morning after being off all night it mostly sees the disc. If I put it in after the computer has been on an hour then it hardly ever sees it. I assume I need to get my drive looked at, when I can afford it. I just thought I'd see if anyone else has experienced this. Roman.

What happens it you restart your computer and then insert the DVD? Here's another thought Try running this free program... and then insert your DVD... http://personalpages.tds.net/~brian_hill/macjanitor.html - Dave On Oct 15, 2006, at 12:38 AM, Roman Pirie wrote: > Well I managed to fit my problem into the subject line. If I insert an > audio CD into the G5 it always sees it on the desktop. If I put in a > DVD in the morning after being off all night it mostly sees the disc. > If I put it in after the computer has been on an hour then it hardly > ever sees it. > I assume I need to get my drive looked at, when I can afford it. I > just > thought I'd see if anyone else has experienced this. > Roman. >

Hi there, using the score in Logic Pro 7 and I'm having the following problem: the staves don't stop at the right corner of the page (in print view)... It looks like this: www2.hku.nl/~ben3/scoreproblem.jpg I've tried things in the layout options, but without succes. Anybody knows how to solve this? thanks, Ben

What a nostalgic nerd I am....I figure alot of you Logic users are old SVP users. I'm looking for a copy of Studio Vision Pro 3 (preferably 3.5.6 fat) to complete a retro midi studio on an old Quadra. I'll take the PPC version and use a different mac if that's all I can find. Obviously I can't buy it commercially so I was hoping someone could just email me just the app at: info@steverieck.com I'm assuming this is freeware now since V4 is free? Any other ideas how I can get version 3? It's not for sale anywhere (ebay etc...) Thanks!

Wow. In a fit of packrat disgust I chucked my whole box of SV disks dating back to version 3 just a few months ago. I gave away my Studio 4. Now if I could get myself to part with the U20 and the S2000... Sorry. If they'd not made the journey to a landfill, they'd be yours.

Hello everyone! I'm about to nuke and repave my G4 and I cannot find the authorization code that Emagic emailed me a few years back. I guess the question is: When I reinstall the software I should be able to plug in the SX key and go right? I seem to remember that once the SX key is authorized by emagic its permanent or I screwed? Keep in mind I'm running version 6 the last upgrade before 7. I don't think that it is supported anymore. Any feedback would greatly be apperciated. Thanks, Tommy

The XSKey should be all you need. Unless it's damaged you can run Logic 6 on any computer with that dongle. If it doesn't work, you might need to upgrade to get a new one. If that happens... be consoled that Logic 7 works WAY better than Logic 6! Less bugs, more features! Good luck! - Dave On Oct 23, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Tommy wrote: > > > Hello everyone! > > I'm about to nuke and repave my G4 and I cannot find the authorization > code that Emagic emailed me a few years back. I guess the question is: > > When I reinstall the software I should be able to plug in the SX key > and go right? > > I seem to remember that once the SX key is authorized by emagic its > permanent or I screwed? Keep in mind I'm running version 6 the last > upgrade before 7. I don't think that it is supported anymore. > > Any feedback would greatly be apperciated. > > Thanks, > > Tommy > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic OT - new web forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L-OT > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-OT/search > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-ot-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >