Sirs, I'm looking for a good partner of Logic. In other words, ususally I import vinyl in order to edit in Logic, are there application suitable for this kind of operation? I use Mac OS X. Best Regards. Angelo Andina

Dear Users, Has anybody successfully synchronized MIDI between Sibelius and Logic on the Mac? I am starting to use Tiger right now and I am interested in playing AU instruments in Logic from the MIDI output of Sibelius, the program I prefer to use for a lot of my composing. Any ideas how to do this? My computer is certainly powerful enough as I have a G5 dual. I know about the IAC bus in the Audio-MIDI set up. Unfortunately most people I talk to have never found any use for it. I believe that a lot of Sibelius users would very much like to be able to make use of audio instruments on the Mac but without some sort of communication protocol it is not going to happen. Regards Paul Nicholls

I did a Logic-Users group buy for Camel Audio. Camel Phat & Space work fine, but I cannot get Cameleon 5000 to work. I went to their website and followed their instructions for adding prefixes, etc.—no dice. Has anyone else had a problem with Cameleon 5000, but was able to resolve the problem? If so, how did you do it? Thanks, Mitchell

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "adorian0" <adorian0@y...> wrote: > > I did a Logic-Users group buy for Camel Audio. Camel Phat & Space work fine, but I cannot > get Cameleon 5000 to work. I went to their website and followed their instructions for > adding prefixes, etc.—no dice. Has anyone else had a problem with Cameleon 5000, but > was able to resolve the problem? If so, how did you do it? Thanks, Mitchell > Hey, I use LP 7 Mac osx I had a problem with ca 5000 and midi I was usin a radium 49 through my tascam 1884. It appears that ca 5000 midi works on priority. it would always look at the internal midi first instead of my tascam . I would have to tuen off the tascam start ca 5000 the my radium would work then turn on my tascam and everything cool. I dont know if that will help you . OH yeah, If you dont need the iac driver disable it

Occasionally after I have quantized I'll notice that all the notes have shifted a bit on the grid. I usually select all of them and manually slide them back only to find that it has occurred in all the audio instruments. Any idea what's going on? I'm using Logic Pro 6 OS X. A similar thing... in my arrange I have accidentally shifted the starting point in the arrange to a minus so that the starting point is no longer 1. When that has happened I just live with it because I haven't figured out how to reset it. It happens when I'm moving sequences or audio regions or resizing and the cursor slips into the "1" area of the bar ruler. I see it shift but can't figure how to undo it. One last question, in Stevie Wonder's "Superstition" there's a hooky instrument that starts right after the drums. Does anyone know if that sound is included in Pro 6? I can't remember running across it in the synthesizers. Thanks Peter

--- Peter Naugler <naugler1@telus.net> wrote: > One last question, in Stevie Wonder's "Superstition" > there's a hooky > instrument that starts right after the drums. Does > anyone know if that > sound is included in Pro 6? I can't remember running > across it in the > synthesizers. > I believe yor're referring to Stevie's clavinet. And that's more than "a hooky instrument", it's a Monster signature lick for that song, and probably THE nost famous clav lick ever. (Actually it's several clavs layered.) I'm sure there must be some clavs in Pro 6 but they won't sound anything like that track. The best software ones that I'm aware of are in the Scarbee Vintage Keyboard Collection. I just bought them but can't get them to work in Logic. Demos blew me away though. JP

--- Peter Naugler <naugler1@telus.net> wrote: > One last question, in Stevie Wonder's "Superstition" > there's a hooky > instrument that starts right after the drums. Does > anyone know if that > sound is included in Pro 6? I can't remember running > across it in the > synthesizers. james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com> wrote: >I believe yor're referring to Stevie's clavinet. And >that's more than "a hooky instrument", it's a Monster >signature lick for that song, and probably THE nost >famous clav lick ever. (Actually it's several clavs >layered.) >I'm sure there must be some clavs in Pro 6 but they >won't sound anything like that track. The best >software ones that I'm aware of are in the Scarbee >Vintage Keyboard Collection. I just bought them but >can't get them to work in Logic. Demos blew me away >though. JP Its a clavinet

Hi All Wonder if some of you clever fella's can help. When miking a drum kit(I'm pretty new at this Live Drum stuff BTW), I 've got a good Bass drum sound using an AKG D112 a Shure Beta 56a on the snare and Audix Tom mikes and overheads, no problems with any of these , however I have a Shure 16A condenser on the hihat and can't keep the rest of the kit out of it no matter what gating I do, it was suggested to me as a good mike for the hihat but I'm not sure, the sound is nice but,, spill overkill,,, any suggestions out there on isolating the hat at least to an acceptable degree. Cheers Dave Abbott DaStudio Johannesburg South Africa

At 11:03 PM -0800 12/12/05, james page wrote: >--- Peter Naugler <naugler1@telus.net> wrote: > >> One last question, in Stevie Wonder's "Superstition" >> there's a hooky >> instrument that starts right after the drums. Does >> anyone know if that >> sound is included in Pro 6? I can't remember running >> across it in the >> synthesizers. >> > >I believe yor're referring to Stevie's clavinet. And >that's more than "a hooky instrument", it's a Monster >signature lick for that song, and probably THE nost >famous clav lick ever. (Actually it's several clavs >layered.) Does anyone know where I could find a transcription of Stevie's clav on this tune? I've always wanted to play that lick and I'm sure I won't hear all the parts buried in the mix to transcribe it myself. Also, I'm lazy. :-) -- Doug

On 13.12.2005, at 14:49, Dave Abbott wrote: > I have a Shure 16A > condenser on the hihat and can't keep the rest of the kit out of it no > matter what gating I do I have no experience with miking drumsets but... (well, I could stop at this point right now, eh? :-) ...according the the description the 16A is a cardioid. If you cannot gate it with the other mics, even if the drummer does not play kick, snare and hihat at once - does it probably aim to the kit or is it too far away from the hihat? Should be rather close and aiming to the outside if possible. That can be a problem with a furious drummer though... ___ Peter Ostry

On 13 Dec 2005, at 13:34, Mychal wrote: > > > > > --- Peter Naugler <naugler1@telus.net> wrote: > >> One last question, in Stevie Wonder's "Superstition" >> there's a hooky >> instrument that starts right after the drums. Does >> anyone know if that >> sound is included in Pro 6? I can't remember running >> across it in the >> synthesizers. > > james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I believe yor're referring to Stevie's clavinet. And >> that's more than "a hooky instrument", it's a Monster >> signature lick for that song, and probably THE nost >> famous clav lick ever. (Actually it's several clavs >> layered.) >> I'm sure there must be some clavs in Pro 6 but they >> won't sound anything like that track. The best >> software ones that I'm aware of are in the Scarbee >> Vintage Keyboard Collection. I just bought them but >> can't get them to work in Logic. Demos blew me away >> though. > JP > > Its a clavinet It is indeed! In my opinion (as a clavinet fiend!) the EVD6 that comes with logic is a very good representation of a clavinet. Its a string modelling synth with more than enough scope to pull of a vast majority of clav sounds, I use it very frequently. If you have logic pro 6 or 7 you already have it. before that it was a paying upgrade. Just get a decent expression pedal, link it to the wah (built in to the EVD6, whats a clav without a wah!) and insert a guitar amp pro (in 7), tweak and enjoy. I've certainly been able to get that stevie vibe from it, it just needs tweaking, the presets really don't do it justice, Mike

Thanks for that info. I'll try that out. When I bought Pro 6, Pro 7 came out about a month or so later. I'm ready to buy Pro 7. You wouldn't know if Pro 8 is about to come out would you? Peter

--- Doug Slick <dslick@netreach.net> wrote: > Does anyone know where I could find a transcription > of > Stevie's clav on this tune? I've always wanted to > play that lick and > I'm sure I won't hear all the parts buried in the > mix to transcribe > it myself. Also, I'm lazy. :-) There was a whole thread on this recently in the keyboard section at www.musicplayer.com. I would look there JP

> ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:52:28 +0100 > From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com> > > > I have a Shure 16A > > condenser on the hihat and can't keep the rest of the kit out of it no > > matter what gating I do > > I have no experience with miking drumsets but... (well, I could stop > at this point right now, eh? :-) > > ...according the the description the 16A is a cardioid. If you cannot > gate it with the other mics, even if the drummer does not play kick, > snare and hihat at once - does it probably aim to the kit or is it > too far away from the hihat? Should be rather close and aiming to the > outside if possible. That can be a problem with a furious drummer > though... The 16A is a condenser with a cardiod pattern as you say but I still can't get enough separation with it even when it's right up against the hihat, I even tried to put a little tube around it to stop it picking up outside sounds(without blocking the vents),, nothing doing,,,,hmmmmm Cheers Dave DaStudio Johannesburg South Africa

On 13.12.2005, at 19:28, Peter Naugler wrote: > When I bought Pro 6, Pro 7 came out about a month or so later. I'm > ready to buy Pro 7. You wouldn't know if Pro 8 is about to come out > would you? No. Apple does not tell anything until they are sure about the release date. But big updates are usually announced a while before. ___ Peter Ostry

On 13.12.2005, at 21:16, Dave Abbott wrote: >>> I have a Shure 16A >>> condenser on the hihat and can't keep the rest of the kit out of >>> it no >>> matter what gating I do >> >> I have no experience with miking drumsets but... (well, I could stop >> at this point right now, eh? :-) >> >> ...according the the description the 16A is a cardioid. If you cannot >> gate it with the other mics, even if the drummer does not play kick, >> snare and hihat at once - does it probably aim to the kit or is it >> too far away from the hihat? Should be rather close and aiming to the >> outside if possible. That can be a problem with a furious drummer >> though... > > The 16A is a condenser with a cardiod pattern as you say but I > still can't > get enough separation with it even when it's right up against the > hihat, I > even tried to put a little tube around it to stop it picking up > outside > sounds(without blocking the vents),, nothing doing,,,,hmmmmm Vibrations? ___ Peter Ostry

At 9:45 AM -0800 12/13/05, james page wrote: >--- Doug Slick <dslick@netreach.net> wrote: >> Does anyone know where I could find a transcription >> of >> Stevie's clav on this tune? I've always wanted to >> play that lick and >> I'm sure I won't hear all the parts buried in the >> mix to transcribe >> it myself. Also, I'm lazy. :-) > >There was a whole thread on this recently in the >keyboard section at www.musicplayer.com. I would look >there >JP > Thanks James. I'll check it out. -- Doug

]--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Abbott" <cricket@i...> wrote: > > Hi All > > Wonder if some of you clever fella's can help. When miking a drum kit(I'm > pretty new at this Live Drum stuff BTW), I 've got a good Bass drum sound > using an AKG D112 a Shure Beta 56a on the snare and Audix Tom mikes and > overheads, no problems with any of these , however I have a Shure 16A > condenser on the hihat and can't keep the rest of the kit out of it no > matter what gating I do, it was suggested to me as a good mike for the hihat > but I'm not sure, the sound is nice but,, spill overkill,,, any suggestions > out there on isolating the hat at least to an acceptable degree. the most common approach to the hihat is underneath it, there's really no way to totally isolate the sound, but keeping it close to the bottom hat should do pretty well.

Hi men, There´s no easy way to get what you want, and miking from the underneath usually gives you a muddy sound with no stick definition. I usually do this: I point the mic at about 30-45 dgrees with the upper hat BUT LOOKING AT THE OUTSIDE OF THE KIT ( This means miking the furthest edge of the HH ). It works well with AKG 451 and better with a 414 on hyper cardioid. Solo the track and check for snare leakage. that´s all you should be worried about. This way the snare is on the dead spot of the cardioid pattern so it´s quite attenuated. Try to get a compensated HH sound out of your overheads by placing these mics carefully.90 % of your close hh sound ´ll come from here and 125% of your open HH as well ! Then filter your HH track with a low cut ( aka hi pass filter ) and get rid of everything else. EQ for silkness and stick definition. Blend to taste and you´re done. Also I recommend checking for hh leakage on the snr mic, mostly when using condensers. Too much HH on the snr mic will complicate things when tryin to add brightness to the snr. Pedro Rodriguez / Wonderland Audio Spain ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

Hi men, There´s no easy way to get what you want, and miking from the underneath usually gives you a muddy sound with no stick definition. I usually do this: I point the mic at about 30-45 dgrees with the upper hat BUT LOOKING AT THE OUTSIDE OF THE KIT ( This means miking the furthest edge of the HH ). It works well with AKG 451 and better with a 414 on hyper cardioid. Solo the track and check for snare leakage. that´s all you should be worried about. This way the snare is on the dead spot of the cardioid pattern so it´s quite attenuated. Try to get a compensated HH sound out of your overheads by placing these mics carefully.90 % of your close hh sound ´ll come from here and 125% of your open HH as well ! Then filter your HH track with a low cut ( aka hi pass filter ) and get rid of everything else. EQ for silkness and stick definition. Blend to taste and you´re done. Also I recommend checking for hh leakage on the snr mic, mostly when using condensers. Too much HH on the snr mic will complicate things when tryin to add brightness to the snr. Pedro Rodriguez / Wonderland Audio Spain

I agree with these suggestions. A good portion of the hi-hat sound is the stick definition, which would be mostly lost by miking underneath. It could be that the Shure mic you're using just has lousy rear rejection, so trying a different mic may solve much of your problem. 414's and 451's have excellent rejection, as do small Neumanns like KM184's---which have the added benefit of a very smooth off-axis response. Recently I've been trying a suggestion from an interview I read, and miking the hat about four inches past the edge, pointing slightly away from the kit and essentially at the floor, and I've never gotten a more silky, sizzly sound. (be sure to keep the capsule above the plane of the cymbals to avoid air puffs) Great for fusion/jazz, at least.

These retailers look like they might have a useable product of hip hop drums. I say this because the price is so high. Has anyone got the complete banginbeats 'no excuses' drum collection or the complete modernbeats/mpcsounds 'original gangsta and street platinum' drum collections? Give me a review before I spend the cash. Thanks, Roman Pirie.

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