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From: Murray McDowall <murraymc@...>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 at 11:47:59 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Re: G5 considerations and such
Message #5976
This is a reply to #5975.
Tony Vincent wrote: >people... the manufacturer is called "glyph". > >http://www.glyphtech.com/site/welcome_page.html > >(sheesh) What about their cousin Joe? http://centerstage.net/music/whoswho/JosephGlymph.html I believe he personally does the QA all the Audio specific drives. Regards, M
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From: Sumit Das <smeet@...>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 at 3:30:40 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Re: G5 considerations and such
Message #5977
This is a reply to #5976.
Murray McDowall wrote: >Tony Vincent wrote: > > > >>people... the manufacturer is called "glyph". >> >>http://www.glyphtech.com/site/welcome_page.html >> >>(sheesh) >> >> > >What about their cousin Joe? > >http://centerstage.net/music/whoswho/JosephGlymph.html > >I believe he personally does the QA all the Audio specific drives. > >Regards, >M > > Incredible, a blast from the past. Joe Glymph (the same one, as if there would be more...) was actually my old violin teacher! :) -smeet
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From: "rob" <orbitborn@...>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 at 4:53:45 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] G5 considerations and such
Message #5978
This is a reply to #5974.
--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "litepipe" <litepipe@a...> wrote: > TazmnianDv@a... wrote: > > Why do people buy GLymph? You can go to Lacie.com and get a 120gb firewire > > for $150 or so. I have two of them (I bought 1 to 3 years ago) and never > any > > problems. > > > My understanding is that Glymph drives are specifically designed for > audio. That's what I've been told. Their firmware is specific for aduio > applications. > How many hours a day would you say you use your Lacie? I'm looking for > reliability since I log atleast 3-4 hours a day. I've heard other people > mention Lacie, but I know little about them. Stop saying "Glymph"! It's "Glyph"! "Glyph" I tell you! :) ~ rob
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From: Brian Pylant <bappo@...>
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 at 10:19:00 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [OT] Mic/Instrument Pre-amp into Logic
Message #5979
> What's the best sounding (for the money) pre-amp solid state or tube > to go into the digital world... I used the neve 1073 before which > was quite nice, but at over $3000 a little too steep for me... > anything out there that is "comparable" but not as pricy? I use an Avalon 737sp and totally love it... you can often pick up a used model on eBay, or a store demo, for around $1500. www.avalondesign.com Brian :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Logic Audio Pro 6.4.2 PowerMac G4 933MHz OS X 10.3.4 1 GB RAM MOTU 828mkII - driver v1.09 - CueMix v1.4
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From: Paul Najar <paulnajar@...>
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 at 10:43:14 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Re: [LUG] [OT] Mic/Instrument Pre-amp into Logic
Message #5980
This is a reply to #5979.
On 27/08/2004, at 1:19 PM, Brian Pylant wrote: > I use an Avalon 737sp and totally love it... you can often pick up a > used model on eBay, or a store demo, for around $1500. > www.avalondesign.com > I am also a happy 737 user but I was very glad I purchased mine new. I first worked extensively with them in a studio I used to work in a lot. They had a pair of them and they sounded great. Couple years later I upgraded my own studio and was happy to buy one. It kept breaking down. Seemed to be heat related. After three times I insisted the distributor give me a new one. This new one has been rock solid for 18 months and somehow sounds better as well. Terribly subjective thing to say I know, but some other colleagues felt the same also...? I get the feeling that the sound of valve gear in particular can differ significantly from unit to unit. Even brand new off the assembly line. Buyer beware.... :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 12:30:25 AM
Subject: OSX finder question
Message #5981
This is a reply to #5980.
Hi, Is there any way to have the finder sort items by filetype? Couldn't find anything. I actually somewhat find the default behaviour of everything being sorted by name useless. Forgive me if this is a newbie question - but then, I AM new to OSX. Thanks, Sascha
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From: Evan Schiller <espmuse@...>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 at 11:52:41 PM
Subject: Where to pick up OhmForce stuff in the U.S.A.?
Message #5982
I downloaded a bunch of the ohmforce demos today- the quad fromage and mellohman, amazing vibey stuff.. I can't seem to find any stores that carry the Melohman. A couple stores carry the effects, but not the synth stuff. Any pointers would help! thanks- Evan
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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 1:58:27 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] OSX finder question
Message #5983
This is a reply to #5981.
At 7:30 Uhr +0200 31.08.2004, Sascha Franck wrote: >Is there any way to have the finder sort items by filetype? Couldn't find >anything. >I actually somewhat find the default behaviour of everything being sorted by >name useless. Like before (in OS 9) you have the list view, it's a button in the toolbar of the finder window, assuming that you have that grey toolbar switched on (klick the little lentil on the top right of the window), or you can of course access it from the View Menu or by pressing apple + 2. This you can then sort by kind. I don't know if you can set the sorting by kind for the coloum view, although I agree that would sometimes be a handy feature. Cheers Hans
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From: Kurt Otto <ottopia@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 1:19:23 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] OSX finder question
Message #5984
This is a reply to #5981.
> Is there any way to have the finder sort items by filetype? Couldn't > find anything. > I actually somewhat find the default behaviour of everything being > sorted by name useless. Try using List View for the window. Select "as List" from the View menu. In the window, one of the columns is called "Kind" (you might need to make the window wider to see it. Click on "Kind" to sort by that column. Click it again to switch between acending/descending order. Yo can also grab the column with the mouse and drag it to change the order of the columns. You can also activate other columns in List View by selecting "Show View Options" from the View menu. This article has a quick overview. http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.asp?p0341&seqNum=5 > Forgive me if this is a newbie question - but then, I AM new to OSX. No forgiveness required, we were all newbies once. Just some newbies are older than others. ;-) Regards Kurt.
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From: "Save the Universe" <mail@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 3:07:59 AM
Subject: [L-OT] Obtaining a Balance Between the Noisy and the Normal
Message #5985
This is a reply to #5984.
Hello, I'm putting the finishing touches on my new CD and am facing a problem. I know there are some pro's here, so hopefully you folks can offer a few suggestions. As i am mastering my new CD, i am having considerable difficulty getting an overall level balance between the songs. Some of the songs rely heavily on distortion, while others are mellower and smoother. Even though the songs have the same mathematical volume, to my ears the noisy/vile ones seem far louder. I know i could just decrease the final volume of the noisy songs to even things up, but this throws off the level of the drums between songs. I want to maintain a consistent rhythm section from start to finish. The mellow songs still contain heavy percussion elements that must match the noisy ones. They only seem quieter because they lack the aggressive distortion. This may be a basic question to most of you. I apologize in advance. If anyone can spare the time to give me some tips, i'd be most appreciative. I'm running LogicPro 6.4.2, OSX 10.2.6, and am primarily using PSP Vintage Warmer in the final stages. Thanks, Jon Zaremba http://www.jonzaremba.com (music) http://www.savetheuniverse.us (words) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 8/11/04
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From: mars@...
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 10:24:06 PM
Subject: re: Obtaining a Balance Between the Noisy and the Normal
Message #5986
> ** Original Message follows... > From: "Save the Universe" <mail@...> > Subject: Obtaining a Balance Between the Noisy and the Normal > > Hello, > > I'm putting the finishing touches on my new CD and am facing a problem. I > know there are some pro's here, so hopefully you folks can offer a few > suggestions. > > As i am mastering my new CD, I don't want to tell you not to master your own CD, but the main thing a pro mastering engineer will bring to the project is objectivity. >i am having considerable difficulty getting an > overall level balance between the songs. Some of the songs rely heavily on > distortion, while others are mellower and smoother. Even though the songs > have the same mathematical volume, to my ears the noisy/vile ones seem far > louder. That's your amswer right there! The only way to do it is to use your ears. Having a VU meter helps as well - check out PSP's free one. Also, you need a meter that will give you a peak-to-average readout. Elemental Audio's free "Inspector" comes to mind. You should aim for around -12dB Pk-to-Avg > I know i could just decrease the final volume of the noisy songs to even > things up, but this throws off the level of the drums between songs. I want > to maintain a consistent rhythm section from start to finish. The mellow > songs still contain heavy percussion elements that must match the noisy > ones. They only seem quieter because they lack the aggressive distortion. Sorry, you can't do it by trying to match just the rhythm section - you need to listen to the songs as a whole. > I'm running LogicPro 6.4.2, OSX 10.2.6, and am primarily using PSP Vintage > Warmer in the final stages. BTW - I strongly recommend that you upgrade to Panther - 10.3.5. Mars
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From: Zeek Duff <zeek@...>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 at 6:09:08 PM
Subject: Re: re: Obtaining a Balance Between the Noisy and the Normal
Message #5987
On 9/1/04 2:21 PM, "logic-ot@yahoogroups.com" <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Original Message: > Date: 31 Aug 2004 23:24:06 -0400 > From: mars@... > Subject: re: Obtaining a Balance Between the Noisy and the Normal > >> ** Original Message follows... > >> From: "Save the Universe" <mail@...> >> Subject: Obtaining a Balance Between the Noisy and the Normal >> >> >> As i am mastering my new CD, > > I don't want to tell you not to master your own CD, but the main thing a pro > mastering engineer will bring to the project is objectivity. > >> i am having considerable difficulty getting an >> overall level balance between the songs. Some of the songs rely heavily on >> distortion, while others are mellower and smoother. Even though the songs >> have the same mathematical volume, to my ears the noisy/vile ones seem far >> louder. > > That's your amswer right there! The only way to do it is to use your ears. > Having a VU meter helps as well - check out PSP's free one. Also, you need a > meter that will give you a peak-to-average readout. Elemental Audio's free > "Inspector" comes to mind. You should aim for around -12dB Pk-to-Avg > >> I know i could just decrease the final volume of the noisy songs to even >> things up, but this throws off the level of the drums between songs. I want >> to maintain a consistent rhythm section from start to finish. The mellow >> songs still contain heavy percussion elements that must match the noisy >> ones. They only seem quieter because they lack the aggressive distortion. > > Sorry, you can't do it by trying to match just the rhythm section - you need > to listen to the songs as a whole. You should also invest in a multiband compressor. I don't think anyone can master properly without one. A TC Finalizer is the most expensive, the Behringer DSP 9024 works just fine for a LOT less $$. Both also have "other" FX that are very useful to maximizing your final stereo mix. Haven't seen a VST one, but that doesn't mean there isn't one by now... Best regards, ...z Q: "Mr. (Charlie) Parker, are you a religious individual?" A: "Yes Sir, I am a devout musician!" Zeek Duff's new CD "Midnight Roses" is now HERE!!! Latest news & links to audio at <http://www.zeekduff.com>; Fingerstyle Jazz Guitar From Beautiful Colorado
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From: Murray McDowall <murraymc@...>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 at 10:18:30 AM
Subject: Video GPUs to process audio FX - 40 Gflops sitting there idle
Message #5988
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From: Wesley Griffin <wgriffin@...>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 at 10:06:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Bluetooth, G5 and Logic
Message #5989
On Sep 10, 2004, at 3:06 AM, Joaquin Medina wrote: >> I'm using the apple keyboard and the logitech mx900 with my powerbook. >> They work fine. I do wish logitech would release a driver that >> allowed use >> of the extra buttons on the mouse (2 on the side), but the 3 buttons >> and >> scroll wheel work fine. I tried the microsoft bluetooth mouse but >> found >> the resolution to be terrible. The logitech is much, much better. I >> can't >> tell the difference between it and a usb mouse. > > For use the extra buttons you can check the usb-overdrive software > (www.usboverdrive.com), I use it with my Logitech MX-700 (a > excelent wireless mouse identical to the MX-900 but is not a > Bluethoot mouse) and I can program all the buttons and define sets > for each application. I don´t know if this works with bluethoot > mouses but you can check it (is a shareware softtware). I've moved this over to -ot. When I bought the mouse I checked out usboverdrive and bluetooth was not support and no mention of it was made. I just checked the web site and they're now saying bluetooth will be supported with the next release. Sweet. I'd love to have those buttons on the side for quick zooming operations.
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 at 3:04:46 PM
Subject: Re: Compatibility, was: [LUG] vinyl plug-in?
Message #5990
This is a reply to #5989.
Brian Pylant wrote: > (As an aside, I wish someone would come up with either a cross-platform > plugin format, or at least a way to wrap Windows VSTs to OS X AUs - > FXPansion has already stated they have no plans to even attempt this, > although IMO if they could work it out they'd make a killing - if it's > even technically possible, of course). You know (not that this is exactly related), so far it was Emagic doing their best possible to make Logic less compatible to anything than ever before. OMF support still seems to be broken (at least it was the last time I tried, not too long ago). MIDI file ex/import has allways been lousy to say the least. 4.8 export simply sucks. Couldn't be anymore broken. There's no plugin compatibility at all anymore. Even if you own exactly the same plugin in both VST and AU format, those won't be compatible (no matter whether the VST version was used on Windows or OS9). As said, this is not exactly related, as a Windows/VST plugin won't load under any Mac OS anyways (at least not natively), but Emagic have done a good portion on the way of being less compatible than ever before. These days I have a REALLY hard time loading a Windows/VST song into LogicPro - until OS9 it was no problem at all. And I allways take care of not using any plugin that doesn't exist in both VST and AU format. Still, songs won't load properly. Seriously, if I wouldn't love Logic so much for it's elegance in terms of anything having to do with ergonomics... well, I don't know what I'd tell Emagic. It defenitely wouldn't be what would be considered politically correct. - Sascha
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From: "m2000_10025" <m2000_10025@...>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 at 11:04:39 AM
Subject: Apple terminates world-wide Emagic distributors
Message #5991
http://appleinsider.com/article.php?ide3 Apple terminates world-wide Emagic distributors By Katie Marsal Published: 02:00 PM EST Opting to sell its music production software exclusively through its own channels, Apple recently issued walking papers to several international distributors. Apple Computer this month began sending letters to its world-wide Emagic software distributors, informing them that their services would no longer be required. Emagic--creator of the Logic music production software suite--was purchased by Apple for a rumored $30 million in 2001, and has since operated as a wholly owned subsidiary of the computer company. Frustrated by the most recent move, some former international Emagic distributors are crying foul play. They claim that the Xskey--once used to protect Logic applications from piracy--is now being abused by Apple to solicit customer information to the exclusion of the ex-distributors and dealers; the same people who previously made their living selling and supporting the software. "If this were to reach customers ears that their information can now be used [by Apple] to dominate and control the music industry, I say there should be a Law protecting [this] flow of information," one former distributor said. Dealers also fear that Apple may exploit some of the customer information once provided innocently to Emagic through it's Germany-based website. Armed with this data and the power to require additional customer info through future releases of Logic, dealers claim that Apple will soon be capable of dominating the software side of the global music production industry. According to Apple, Logic is used by over 200,000 musicians worldwide and is the industry-leading audio production software for professional musicians, audio engineers, producers and film composers. Around the same time that Apple began dismissing world-wide Emagic distributors, the company also registered for a trademark on the word "ProBand." Some insiders have speculated that the company will eventually re-brand the Logic product line under this new name.
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From: Murray McDowall <murraymc@...>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 at 11:36:52 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Apple terminates world-wide Emagic distributors
Message #5992
This is a reply to #5991.
>Frustrated by the most recent move, some former international Emagic >distributors are crying foul play. They claim that the Xskey--once >used to protect Logic applications from piracy--is now being abused by >Apple to solicit customer information to the exclusion of the >ex-distributors and dealers; the same people who previously made their >living selling and supporting the software. > >"If this were to reach customers ears that their information can now >be used [by Apple] to dominate and control the music industry, I say >there should be a Law protecting [this] flow of information," one >former distributor said. > >Dealers also fear that Apple may exploit some of the customer >information once provided innocently to Emagic through it's >Germany-based website. Armed with this data and the power to require >additional customer info through future releases of Logic, dealers >claim that Apple will soon be capable of dominating the software side >of the global music production industry. I can remember making a crack about the Axis of Evil when the buyout was announced but this stuff is hilarious. "Proband" (!) Stevo's taste - who could fault it? Regards, M
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From: "logicslothead" <logicslothead@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 at 11:32:34 AM
Subject: help!!
Message #5993
can anyone help me? I can't syncronize audio to midi for some reason. I've tried: -changing the sample rate and changing it back again. -in the sycronization page under 'audio' I've changed it to free and clear ( actually tried all the settings but none fix the problem. -I've deselected all the functions under 'midi syncronization' -ran the logic setup wizard thinking it might reset the problem but that didn't work. It was all running fine for months and right in the middle of a project without changing a thing, this started to happen. thanks Phil
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From: "mellowyazz" <slaianca@...>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 at 1:06:07 AM
Subject: Logic 7 -> ProBand ??
Message #5994
I've been noticing some interest in Logic 7 by some LUG members recently and thought folks might find it interesting to learn that Apple recently applied for trademark rights for the name 'ProBand' as well as some other names for future products. This seems like a logical name for GarageBand's future big brother, (the former emagic Logic??). It seems like this will probably be the case. ... Or will there be a third 'middle of the road' product between the two? I guess we'll have to wait and see. Apple has done just that with their video editing series: iMovie --> Final Cut Express --> Final Cut Pro. Hmmm... Let's see, maybe... GarageBand -> Can'tLeaveMyDayJobBand -> ProBand
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From: "waxenpolyester" <waxenpolyester@...>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 at 9:39:11 PM
Subject: Re: Logic 7 -> ProBand ??
Message #5995
This is a reply to #5994.
It seems like this is the way things are going. It should be business as usual (same thing happened with iMac G5 for the consumer, G5 tower for pros). The only down side I can see to this is loss of the name. It sounds silly but there is so much history in it. In all honesty, I wouldn't want to switch from Logic to "ProBand" (what a lame name) independant of a few minor advancements. Damn have I been conditioned eh. :) Although it's hard to complain because Apple seems to have done great things with making their professional level products being extremely high quality. It's nice to see a split between consusmer and professional rather than putting out a medeocre 'prosumer' product to try and satisfy everyone. Never the less, it should be interresting.
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From: TazmnianDv@...
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 at 2:14:09 AM
Subject: GPO & Imposcar for sale
Message #5996
I am selling Garritan Personal Orchestra and G Media Imposcar. They are brand new in sealed cartons., never opened or used. $175 and $125 respectively.
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From: Per Boysen <per@...>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 at 6:09:30 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Re: Logic 7 -> ProBand ??
Message #5997
This is a reply to #5995.
On Sep 23, 2004, at 4:39, waxenpolyester wrote: > "ProBand" (what a lame name) My vote for PröBänd!!! For more info on "rock dots", see http://www.ericforsmark.com/sida.asp?sida=192 per ;-)
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From: "gswerner2002" <gswerner2002@...>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 at 10:22:32 AM
Subject: Logic/Mac
Message #5998
I've been using a pc with logic since 2000 and would like to update the program to stay current but i don't have a mac as of yet. Is logic a forever mac program now? Are there any big advantages to using the 2 together if i use logic for midi alone? I have a 24 trk hard disk recorder and i have a 24 channel mixer. I've always used logic for midi with a Unitor 8 since all my instruments are either keyboards or modules. I've never used any audio features of logic or any software synths. I'd be interested in any feedback concerning the differences. Thanks Gary
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From: Murray McDowall <murraymc@...>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 at 12:28:51 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Logic/Mac
Message #5999
This is a reply to #5998.
At 03:22 PM 9/23/04 +0000, you wrote: >I've been using a pc with logic since 2000 and would like to update >the program to stay current but i don't have a mac as of yet. Is >logic a forever mac program now? Are there any big advantages to >using the 2 together if i use logic for midi alone? I have a 24 trk >hard disk recorder and i have a 24 channel mixer. I've always used >logic for midi with a Unitor 8 since all my instruments are either >keyboards or modules. I've never used any audio features of logic or >any software synths. I'd be interested in any feedback concerning the >differences. Are you using Logic 4.x or 5.5.1? If you aren't using the audio features you have no reason to upgrade. Save your money. If you want to use the audio features you can use lot of them with Logic 5.x Windows. There may be some compelling reason to go with the Mac if Logic 7 or whatever Apple decides to call it comes out sometime in the next 12 Months. However, I doubt that this would be the case if you only use Logic as a midi sequencer. Regards, Murray
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From: "gswerner2002" <gswerner2002@...>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 at 4:46:51 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Logic/Mac
Message #6000
This is a reply to #5999.
> Are you using Logic 4.x or 5.5.1? > > If you aren't using the audio features you have no reason to upgrade. Save > your money. > > If you want to use the audio features you can use lot of them with Logic > 5.x Windows. There may be some compelling reason to go with the Mac if > Logic 7 or whatever Apple decides to call it comes out sometime in the next > 12 Months. However, I doubt that this would be the case if you only use Logic as a midi sequencer. > > Regards, > Murray Thanks, I use 4.81 in my studio and i have 5.1 on my personal machine. for my purposes, being all midi related, they both do the job. i haven't seen the newer versions since it became mac and don't really know anybody else that uses logic in my little part of the world. Gary
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