On Aug 2, 2004, at 9:23 AM, Pants wrote: > I'm not on the OT list, but you might be interested in this site: > > <http://www.tweakheadz.com/sequencers.html>; A very interesting read. Must read for every Logic fan. Thanks again, Pants. Best, Andy

Hi there peepz, I've been trying to download this file for a couple of weeks from the emagic site, and it's not happening at all... http://www.emagic-mirror.com/pub/drivers/u8upd131.zip Even their tech support email want product reg, but I've bought one second-hand (MK1), and am trying to prepare everything in advance to save some time. It's only 8k I think. Does anyone have a copy they can email me? I've had no probs downloading the other unitor files, but they seem to be on a different server. Hope someone can help. TIA Steph

Sent in a private message. Best to all, Andy On Aug 3, 2004, at 10:43 AM, Stephanie wrote: > Hi there peepz, > > I've been trying to download this file for a couple of weeks from the > emagic site, and it's not happening at all... > > http://www.emagic-mirror.com/pub/drivers/u8upd131.zip > > Even their tech support email want product reg, but I've bought one > second-hand (MK1), and am trying to prepare everything in advance to > save some time. > > It's only 8k I think. Does anyone have a copy they can email me? > > I've had no probs downloading the other unitor files, but they seem to > be on a different server. > > Hope someone can help. > > TIA > Steph

Hi there, is anyone besides me who thinks that the next upgrade is going to be really cool? I mean, just the fact that there wasn't a small update in month now makes me think they must be cooking up really interesting stuff over in Rellingen Can't wait for that to happen Cheers Hans

the stellar-coolest thing I can think of is bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix and actually, I don't think we are supposed to pay for that. regards- phil >Hi there, > >is anyone besides me who thinks that the next upgrade is going to be >really cool? > >I mean, just the fact that there wasn't a small update in month now >makes me think they must be cooking up really interesting stuff over >in Rellingen > >Can't wait for that to happen > >Cheers >Hans > >Yahoo! Groups Sponsor >ADVERTISEMENT ><http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG93nd7ik/M)5196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D =groups/S05007334:HM/EXP91701628/A!28215/R=0/SIGse96mf6/*http://companion .yahoo.com> > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-ot/>http://groups.yahoo.com/g roup/logic-ot/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ><mailto:logic-ot-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>l ogic-ot-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the ><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Hi Hans, On Aug 4, 2004, at 3:26 AM, Hans Hafner wrote: > is anyone besides me who thinks that the next upgrade is going to be > really cool? Speculation mode on :-) . 1. Totally re-designed (simplified) UI (for DP/SX/PT converts to feel at home from the first minute) with an option for us, old users/fans, to still be able to work in the usual way. 2. Support for Apple loops and other Acid like bells and whistles. 3. Fulll TDM integration (the way it was in 4.x and 5.x), including fully functional ESB. 4. Better Rewire support, including Rewire slave mode. 5. SoundDiver and WaveBurner incorporated in Logic (both still available as stand-alone apps). 6. (almost forgot) Support for broadcast wave format (timestamping, exporting region definitions, etc.). (Can't think of anything else at the moment) Speculation mode off :-) . Best, Andy

----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Andy Hardwake <digitalmechanics@...> > Date: August 4, 2004 5:42:16 AM PDT > To: Unitor8@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Unitor8] Re: Unitor8 Firmware Update 1.3.1 > Reply-To: Unitor8@yahoogroups.com > > Hi, > > I have just uploaded the latest firmware update (for those of you who > have > experienced the same problems downloading the file from the Emagic > site) to > the file section of the Unitor8 group at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unitor8/files > . I hope this does not violate any copyright or whatsoever as it has > been on > any Logic Mac installation CD since version 5, otherwise please let me > know > and I'll delete it right away. > > Best, > > Andy > > --- In Unitor8@yahoogroups.com, "Uwe Mahnken" <Uwe-Mahnken@g...> > wrote: >> The link to the Firmware on the emagic website: >> http://www.emagic-mirror.com/pub/drivers/u8upd131.zip >> >> doesn't work. Please can anyone email the little file to me?

Yes!!! Sing it over and over to the tune of the B52's Loveshack. "Bugfix, baby bugfix, Bugfix, baby bugfix....... And while we're on the subject has anyone else noticed the increasing number of graphics and redraw issues Pro has been having? On 04/08/2004, at 8:42 PM, Philipp Schweidler wrote: > the stellar-coolest thing I can think of is > > bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix bugfix > > and actually, I don't think we are supposed to pay for that. > > regards- phil

<http://www.tweakheadz.com/sequencers.html>; Very interesting, thanks... am I the only one, however, that is a little disturbed at how much of the UI from the original Atari days is still in place (such as the tool icons, etc.)? You would think over the course of 15+ years these things would've been updated, perhaps more than once, along with the UI enhancements that did happen. Just a thought... Brian :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Logic Audio Pro 6.4.2 PowerMac G4 933MHz OS X 10.3.4 1 GB RAM MOTU 828mkII - driver v1.09 - CueMix v1.4

Does anybody know of some good EU secondhand studio equipments links. I am shopping around for a new (old) mixer. Something like a well kept TAC Matchless, there are many around but I only want to pay as little as I can get away with. I live in Denmark which means that I am within driving distance of most of north-europe. Henrik Krogh henrikkrogh@...

Hi Henrik, On Aug 5, 2004, at 4:31 AM, HKC wrote: > Does anybody know of some good EU secondhand studio equipments links. > I am shopping around for a new (old) mixer. Something like a well kept > TAC Matchless, there are many around but I only want to pay as little > as I can get away with. I live in Denmark which means that I am within > driving distance of most of north-europe. I personally would keep an eye on good old ebay. It's the easiest/fastest way to find what you want/need and they ship around the world. I bought some Digi hardware and RAM for some of my samplers there, all works fine so far (knock on wood :-) ). Best, Andy

I am thinking about selling my TAC Magnum (36/24/8/2) if you´re interested. Includes harness. Drop me an email with your budget. I´m in Germany near Cologne if that´s within your range. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de HKC wrote: > Does anybody know of some good EU secondhand studio equipments links. > I am shopping around for a new (old) mixer. Something like a well > kept TAC Matchless, there are many around but I only want to pay as > little as I can get away with. I live in Denmark which means that I > am within driving distance of most of north-europe. Henrik Krogh > henrikkrogh@...

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 07:11:00PM +0200, Maurits van de Kamp wrote: > > I'll bet you money that there are still companies using programs > > written in Fortran, Cobol, and RPG > > Certainly. But they're not complaining that their brandnew G5 with OSX > doesn't come with a Fortran, Cobol or RPG compiler. Incidentally, anyone know why Apple 'crippled' gcc so that it no longer compiles Fortran, Ada, or Java, as 'out of the box' gcc does? ned -- http://www.stromkern.com R I S O T T O ?

> Incidentally, anyone know why Apple 'crippled' gcc so that it no > longer compiles Fortran, Ada, or Java, as 'out of the box' gcc > does? Are there maybe separate gcc-java, gcc-(whatever) packages you can install? A lot of the linux distrubtions at least are splitting things up quite a bit lately - SUSE 9.1 even splits up php into 20+ different packages, one for each PHP module. Here's all the different gcc packages RedHat ES3 has by default when you install the development tools: libgcc-ssa-3.5ssa-0.20030801.47 gcc-objc-ssa-3.5ssa-0.20030801.47 gcc-c++-3.2.3-39 gcc-c++-ssa-3.5ssa-0.20030801.47 libgcc-3.2.3-39 gcc-ssa-3.5ssa-0.20030801.47 gcc-3.2.3-39 gcc-objc-3.2.3-39 gcc-g77-3.2.3-39 gcc-gnat-3.2.3-39 gcc-java-ssa-3.5ssa-0.20030801.47 gcc-g77-ssa-3.5ssa-0.20030801.47 gcc-java-3.2.3-39

>>I do have a tip for everyone that I just learned. If you want to zip a file to send to a PC user, you can do this mac X without stuffit or any special software. 1. Copy the file "oldfile" to your username directory (the little "house" icon in the finder window) 2. Open Applications > Utilities > Terminal 3. type :   zip newfilename.zip  oldfile<< Actually, to create a zip file is even simpler, with Panther (10.3), and does not require using the Terminal: Control-click (one button mouse) or right click (two button mouse) the file you want to zip, and from the contextual menu that appears choose "Create Archive..." That's it; you're done! PEACE Kerry

Ebay is not that great. If you want to buy, I often see things going for outrageous prices. For example, I was looking for some Mac Radeon Graphic cards. They get bid up to the point that they are actually more expensive than you could find them new. On the other hand, when you sell you have the dilema of risking selling it cheap if you get unlucky, or paying a lot of fees to ebay to guarantee a high price (but not guarantee a sale). I put a mac motherboard on ebay for $60 and ended up paying $4 and no one bought it. In the LA/San Diego, Southern California area, you can sell (for FREE) on www.recycler.com. Sweetwater.com used to have a "trading post" where you could place free ads. And there was a site at Harmony Central as I recall. Again for free. If you are selling CD's or books, then Amazon is the place. I have sold hundreds of CDs and books through Amazon. You pay nothing unless you sell, and it stays online 3 months and then you can renew if it doesn't sell. They collect the money for you, accumulate it, and wire it to your bank account once a month. They also determine shipping, so there is no haggling and rarely any time when you even need to have communication with the buyers.

> There's a really good book - i think its called something like "side > by side" > where on each page spread, the left shows how to do something in > system 9, > and the right side shows how to do it in system X. We use that one at work to help the design dept. migrate to OS X, and it's proven extremely valuable. Another highly recommended title for OS X migrants. > One thing that is always annoying about X is that it assumes you are > running > a system with multiple users - so there is a system set of documents, > preferences, fonts, AU's,... and then one for your username ...even if > you are the one > and only user. And then some installers install to one place and some > to > another. It's not so much that OS X is making an assumption, but rather just that this is how Unix has *always* been organized, separating the user(s) from the system. If you're the only user on your machine you really don't need to worry about whether an application is installed at the system level or for your user only; it's only on truly multi- user setups where that might be critical (and even then only if you have a need to restrict one or more users' access to certain programs). IMO the Unix underpinnings of OS X are one of the main reason some folks are resistant to X; even the average user needs to have a better understanding of what's going on behind the scenes than with pre-X Mac OS (although not as much as running a Unix or Linux system; Jobs & Co. have definitely smoothed the ride about as much as possible). I think there are definite advantages to learning these things, too, but at the same time I understand the longing for the simplicity of OS 9 and before - just remember that with the added complexity comes an enormous increase in power and flexibility that pre-X Mac OS simply couldn't deliver. In the end I feel it's definitely worth it... > The font situation is total nonsense -maybe 3 or 4 places for example. This makes total sense given how Unix is structured -- in accordance with the principle of separating the user(s) from the system you must have both system-level as well as user-level fonts, preferences, etc. (What *doesn't* make sense is what Adobe has been doing the last few years, adding additional font locations for Adobe products (which font managers such as Suitcase don't control).) Additionally, if having fonts stored in multiple locations bothers you there's nothing stopping you from moving every font save for the critical OS fonts to your local user folder. (You may have to log in as the root user to accomplish this.) > 1. Copy the file "oldfile" to your username directory (the little > "house" > icon in the finder window) > 2. Open Applications > Utilities > Terminal > 3. type :   zip newfilename.zip  oldfile This is built into the Finder, there's no need to go to the terminal or to copy the file from it's original location. Just control-click on the document or folder and select "Create archive of..." and you'll be rewarded with a .zip file. Brian :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Logic Audio Pro 6.4.2 PowerMac G4 933MHz OS X 10.3.4 1 GB RAM MOTU 828mkII - driver v1.09 - CueMix v1.4

Hi guys. Background Been in Music Prodn since daysof Notator on Atari. I use logic pro on a G5 with RME / LUCID interface/ convertors. Been through the 02r SOny Oxford route between 1997 to 2003 and decided to go back to my old TAC Board over the last 12 months. LOVE the return to analog. no longer brittle and harsh mixes. SITUATION Wanted to move ON re a replacement mixer (TAC is now 12 years old) and am requesting any thots from those that have crossed this bridge.. possiblities a) Dangerous Audio 16 to 2 Buss Pro.: no mixer. clean, not too expensive Con.: by the time u pay for the monitor section and more channels, costs goes up difficult to multi track drums for eg.. need lots of Pres to do direct input into M/track What about surround for film b) not sure of any analog mixers to consider. The AMEK NEVE Media 51 is a consideration but no true total recall, just lights that tell u where you should be on the eqs/sends etc.. re: sound card am also considering the RME MADI as a possiblity to get more than 26 outputs seeing as our beloved EMAGIC does not allow using multiple hardware since "UP"grading to OSX... used to do 2 Multifaces to get 56 outs. cant do that in OSX..Boo! Bought an 002 thinking with a digi HW i could use DAE simultaneous with Core audio. was wrong and now have an 002 sitting in the rack purely for Protools conversion to and from...Logic PRo... anyone know what the deal with WAVEBURNER is now there is no OSX WB support.... Thanks very much SYD

Hello everyone, I used to be a regular on the LUG until Apple bought Emagic. I decided to stay on the p.c. platform (mistake) and use Cubase SX. Well, now I'm considering buying a Mac for more stability. I never really feel the p.c. is "not" going to crash. It wil at some point when you least expect it. I'm also looking to move back to Logic since now I imagine it's really solid being specific to the Mac. I do have a few questions, but I'll give you some details about my studio first: I'm planning on doing most of my mixing outside of Logic (via a Mackie 8 bus) so I'm mostly using Logic as a tape deck with the exception of some effects and a few VST instruments. I'm using a MOTU 24 i/o core system. I was looking to buy the new G5 dual 1.8 gig with 1 gig of ram. I was also looking to buy a Glymph desktop firewire drive for my audio. How do you suspect this system would work for me with Logic Pro? What do I need to know about buying a Mac? Is it really set up right out of the box? Can I run other programs on it (not while Logic is running) without it screwing with my audio set-up (final cut for example)? I ask becasue right now I have a audio only p.c. and it still has problems:-( I'm not looking to use it for web, just a few other apps. How does the MOTU stuff work with Logic and Mac? Basically I want a system that functions. I know nothing is perfect, but I want to be a little closer to peace and serenity:-)) I appreciate any help in this matter. Thanks!! --litepipe

Hi there, lightpipe, I'll try to answer what I can: > I was looking to buy the new G5 dual 1.8 gig > with 1 > gig of ram. I was also looking to buy a Glymph desktop firewire drive > for my > audio. How do you suspect this system would work for me with Logic > Pro? What I'd look into the PCI compatibility of your 2408 system with the G5. If you're talking about the latest revision dual 1.8, then you may be in luck as it's classic PCI, similar to the G4 systems. As for the Glyph firewire solution, unless you need RAID or hot-swappable drives, there are cheaper cases out there from other reputable manufacturers such as Lacie or ADS Tech. A lot of money can be saved by buying a case without a hard drive and adding it yourself. > do I need to know about buying a Mac? Is it really set up right out of > the > box? Can I run other programs on it (not while Logic is running) > without it > screwing with my audio set-up (final cut for example)? I ask becasue > righter I run a Powerbook as my main mac. I also run Microsoft Office, Toast, Virtual PC, Photoshop, and several other apps. I never have to worry about messing up my audio setup as OS X is not as picky as OS 9 was with configuration (i.e. loading system extensions, etc). > now I have a audio only p.c. and it still has problems:-( I'm not > looking to > use it for web, just a few other apps. > How does the MOTU stuff work with Logic and Mac? > Basically I want a system that functions. I know nothing is perfect, > but I > want to be a little closer to peace and serenity:-)) > I appreciate any help in this matter. Thanks!! I use a MOTU 828 firewire device with Logic on my G4. I have had zero problems over the past few years due to this combo. I'm unsure of what the PCI performance has been, so you should investigate that. Mark

> I do have a few questions, but I'll give you some > details about my studio first: I'm planning on doing most of my mixing > outside of Logic (via a Mackie 8 bus) so I'm mostly using Logic as a tape > deck with the exception of some effects and a few VST instruments. I'm using > a MOTU 24 i/o core system. > I was looking to buy the new G5 dual 1.8 gig with 1 > gig of ram. Get at least 2 gigs of RAM for the G5/Logic combo. I was also looking to buy a Glymph desktop firewire drive for my > audio. How do you suspect this system would work for me with Logic Pro? What do I need to know about buying a Mac? Is it really set up right out of the box? Get a 250 GB internal SATA HD with the G5 and use the first partition (less than 25% of HD space) for audio exclusively, or get a second HD (10,000 rpm Raptor?). Use partition 2 for system and applications and partition 3 for data. You should also read up on how OSX.3.5 works - the UNIX thing. It's different from OS 9 Can I run other programs on it (not while Logic is running) without it > screwing with my audio set-up (final cut for example)? > How does the MOTU stuff work with Logic and Mac? I'm using a MOTU 828 mkii with no problems (latest drivers) and often have other progs open with Logic (including Web stuff, Indesign, Photoshop, Word etc). Works much (!!!) better than on my previous G4 Sawtooth 400. Have fun Russell Canberra Australia

> --- George Leger III <george3@u...> > wrote: > . A > > tripplite 1800 does the trick, and the price isn't > > too bad. > > Does anyone know how the TrippLite LC-1800 compares to > something like the Monster Pro 3500 Rack Power Center? > JP

In a message dated 8/18/04 12:41:47 AM, litepipe@... writes: > I was also looking to buy a Glymph desktop firewire drive for my > audio. > Why do people buy GLymph? You can go to Lacie.com and get a 120gb firewire for $150 or so. I have two of them (I bought 1 to 3 years ago) and never any problems.

TazmnianDv@... wrote: > Why do people buy GLymph? You can go to Lacie.com and get a 120gb firewire > for $150 or so. I have two of them (I bought 1 to 3 years ago) and never any > problems. My understanding is that Glymph drives are specifically designed for audio. That's what I've been told. Their firmware is specific for aduio applications. How many hours a day would you say you use your Lacie? I'm looking for reliability since I log atleast 3-4 hours a day. I've heard other people mention Lacie, but I know little about them. --litepipe

> > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:12:44 -0400 > From: "litepipe" <litepipe@...> > Subject: Re: G5 considerations and such > > TazmnianDv@... wrote: >> Why do people buy GLymph? You can go to Lacie.com and get a 120gb firewire >> for $150 or so. I have two of them (I bought 1 to 3 years ago) and never > any >> problems. > > > My understanding is that Glymph drives are specifically designed for > audio. That's what I've been told. Their firmware is specific for aduio > applications. > How many hours a day would you say you use your Lacie? I'm looking for > reliability since I log atleast 3-4 hours a day. I've heard other people > mention Lacie, but I know little about them. > > --litepipe > people... the manufacturer is called "glyph". http://www.glyphtech.com/site/welcome_page.html (sheesh) tv > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >