--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Remco Muntz <rmuntz@g...> wrote: > Hi, > Can any of you give me some advise on a good tube mic for about EUR > 700-800. I'm going to use it for my project studio, mainly on vocals, > but also on acoustic guitar and maybe some other instruments. I'm > looking for a nice sound with a lot of depth and warmth. Well, actually > I just want a good micrphone. I own a Rode NT1000 now, which I like, > but I want to upgrade to something better. I've been hearing very > positive things about chinese manufacturers (anyone know about this?), > SE Electronics... Others I forgot to mention: AKG SolidTube, SE Electronics Z-5600, Rode K2, Neumann TLM103. Remco

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "remcomuntz" <rmuntz@g...> wrote: > Others I forgot to mention: AKG SolidTube, SE Electronics Z-5600, > Rode K2, Neumann TLM103. FWIW, the TLM 103 is not a tube mic, but an excellent, IMHO, "must have" addition to any good mic collection. I use it fairly often on vocals where the singer is somewhat thin sounding, and in need of some "beefing up", which works better for me with the Neumann than the mic I usually start off with when recording Vox, the really wonderful Brauner VM 1. HTH, kind regards Mark Cahill

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "markdvc2002" <mark@l...> wrote: > --- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "remcomuntz" <rmuntz@g...> wrote: > > > Others I forgot to mention: AKG SolidTube, SE Electronics Z-5600, > > Rode K2, Neumann TLM103. > > FWIW, the TLM 103 is not a tube mic, but an excellent, IMHO, "must > have" addition to any good mic collection. I use it fairly often on > vocals where the singer is somewhat thin sounding, and in need of > some "beefing up", which works better for me with the Neumann than > the mic I usually start off with when recording Vox, the really > wonderful Brauner VM 1. This is kinda what I'm looking for. Yes, I know the Neumann isn't a tube, but it's not that I must have a tube. I just want a very good sounding mic. Remco

(bounced from the regular Logic list - not allowed by the admin) Coming from DP I was very surprised to find out how *extremely* limited and buggy Logic's audio-event quantizing options were. Does anyone have any opinion about Peak/LE or Protools/LE for editing loops and other audio? I have LogicPro on my desktop, but I don't want to carry the dongle around with my laptop and risk losing it. Peak seems like a nicer version of Logic's sample editor. ProtoolsLE seems to have nice features, but I have really had it with dealing with their drivers (since they are no longer supporting the AMIII). I guess the really cheapo version of Logic is no longer sold, Soundtrack is too expensive, and GarargeBand lacking in features. Any other ideas? I would like VST compatibility too (which Peak has).

Hi, See if Amadeus meets your specifications! http://www.hairersoft.com/ Personally I have almost stopped editing loops in sample editors. My new way of working with loops in Logic productions is to run Ablteton Live as ReWire slave and fly all loops in in real-time. Initially my plan with this method was to bounce new audio files of the loops I want to use in the song, but I found Logic/Live to be such a powerful tool that I just kept Live there in the background all the time and mixed the Live feed into Logic. All the best Per Boysen --- http://www.boysen.se http://www.looproom.com On 2004-05-26, at 09.36, gregory_a_moore wrote: > (bounced from the regular Logic list - not allowed by the admin) > Coming from DP I was very surprised to find out how *extremely* > limited and buggy Logic's audio-event quantizing options were. > > > Does anyone have any opinion about Peak/LE or Protools/LE for editing > loops and other > audio? I have LogicPro on my desktop, but I don't want to carry the > dongle around with my > laptop and risk losing it. Peak seems like a nicer version of Logic's > sample editor. > ProtoolsLE seems to have nice features, but I have really had it with > dealing with their > drivers (since they are no longer supporting the AMIII). I guess the > really cheapo version of > Logic is no longer sold, Soundtrack is too expensive, and GarargeBand > lacking in features. > Any other ideas? I would like VST compatibility too (which Peak has).

Does anybody know of a cheap place to buy sample CD´s in EU, I´m looking for Drumkits from Hell Superior in particular. I saw it on Alternate Mode´s site for 239$ which is the cheapest I´ve seen but then I will have to add EU taxes. I still use Logic Windows 5.51 so I can use the VST version, AU is supposed to come any day and will be a free upgrade so when I crossgrade I will go for that obviously. Henrik Krogh henrikkrogh@...

I am about to get a new Sony PC with 2GB of RAM. I plan to use Logic. I have been noticing some threads about 2GB of RAM and logic, so I have the following questions, because I missed previous questionsanswers. 1. Will the program run with 2GB of RAM? 2. What version is experiancing these problems? 3. What exactly is the error, and when is it happening? Thanks in advanced! Chaz

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Well actually , only the big one is! > Macs -- they're all wet! > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/09/apple_g5_update/ _____________________________________________________ MATT MCKENZIE-SMITH MUSIC • AUDIO DESIGN • PRODUCTION PO Box 10395, Adelaide 5000, South Australia. Ph.+61 416 197 883 _____________________________________________________

At 07:44 AM 6/10/04 +0930, you wrote: >Well actually , only the big one is! > >> Macs -- they're all wet! Matt - do you remember the 75 Election in Oz? Rupert Murdoch wanted to bring Gough down so he only ran the stories which were slanted against the ALP. Everything from staffers following the then prime- minister was suppressed. This got so bad that his political journo's went on strike in the week or so before the election. A joke went around. One of Gough's advisers said -- Gough - why don't you show them. Show them all how great you are, why don't you walk on water? Gough considered and then said (put on your best accent) -"Allright I will" So Gough went down to the shore of Lake Burley Griffin with the press gallery in tow and lo and behold he walked on the water! Next day the papers reported the miracle and the true marvel that was Gough. Except for the Rupert's "The Australian". His headline: "Gough Can't Swim.'

> Matt - do you remember the 75 Election in Oz? Ah yes, However, it is pushing my memory, as my interests were purely limited to Lego and dirt. I was 5 years old. ;-) regards, Matt _____________________________________________________ MATT MCKENZIE-SMITH MUSIC • AUDIO DESIGN • PRODUCTION PO Box 10395, Adelaide 5000, South Australia. Ph.+61 416 197 883 _____________________________________________________

At 08:26 AM 6/11/04 +0930, you wrote: >> Matt - do you remember the 75 Election in Oz? >Ah yes, >However, it is pushing my memory, as my interests were purely limited >to Lego and dirt. >I was 5 years old. ;-) I was but a callow yoof m'self. Murdoch's history gets the once over in The Murdoch Archipelago by Bruce Page. Quote: The important point, says Page, "is that Murdochs operation may well be the general model of media empires which live in corporatist bliss with slowly degrading national governments." http://www.bookhub.co.uk/The_Murdoch_Archipelago_jhnza_0743239369.html Doesn't it make you proud to be Australian? M

The release of the new G5's has generated very little conversation around here this week. Wonder why? They didn't hit 3 GhZ and they didn't improve the case expansion situation, but Is everyone that disappointed? Anyway, for those who have been using G5's, I'm interested in opinions on RAM options. Getting 4 gig at Apple's prices is out of the question, but I'm curious as to why there is such a price discrepancy on G5 memory between other suppliers. I know Crucial has a great reputation, but is their RAM really worth nearly twice as much (for the 1 gig sticks) as what Memory To Go supplies? I tend to think if it works, it's fine, but any opinions on the advantages of one brand over another would be welcome. Also, does anybody know if the FireWire 800 and FireWire 400 ports are on separate buses? If not, then using any of our many older FW400 drives, which would still be handy for backup and other less intensive chores, would pull the whole bus down to 400 and negate any advantages of using FW800 drives. I couldn't find anything about this on the Apple site. One more thing: given the internal 2-drive limitation, are people blowing off the long-standing notion of keeping their system drives separate from their audio or sample-streaming drives? I doubt anyone needs a 160 gig system drive, and using the extra space on these fast drives for backup chores seems like quite a waste of resources. Again, any opinions or shared experiences would be appreciated. Thanks, Sean McCoy Oregon Sound Recording (soon to be the owner of a new G5---finally!)

Sean McCoy wrote: The release of the new G5's has generated very little conversation around here this week. Wonder why? I think a lot of us are decided on buying the middle model which has not been revised yet so no news for us except that the days until it´s out mustbe numbered. Luckily I´m too busy to crossgrade at the moment so another2-3 months doesn´t really make that much difference to me. Although I found it a bit dissapointing that they only come out with one revised model Ihave to agree that Macs certainly last longer than PCs, I mean 12 months and only one upgrade but is that a good thing I wonder. Henrik Krogh henrikkrogh@...

At 11:14 AM 6/11/04 +0200, you wrote: >Sean McCoy wrote: The release of the new G5's has generated very little >conversation around here this week. Wonder why? > >I think a lot of us are decided on buying the middle model which has not >been revised yet so no news for us except that the days until it´s out must >be numbered. Luckily I´m too busy to crossgrade at the moment so another2-3 >months doesn´t really make that much difference to me. Although I found it a >bit dissapointing that they only come out with one revised model I have to >agree that Macs certainly last longer than PCs, I mean 12 months and only >one upgrade but is that a good thing I wonder. This issue confronts all computer users expecting more performance every year - not just Mac buyers. Semiconductors have been following Moore's Law up until recently but over the last 18 months or so the rate of performance increase has been curtailed drastically. The central issue is that the latest die shrinks -- down to 90 nm -- have produced too much heat due to increased leakage current. This is true for many of the designs and processes that are being fabricated by Intel, AMD and IBM. Intel's current laptop (Centrino) designs - Banias and now Dothian are very thermally efficient. Transmeta's chips are too but they lag in performance. The Opteron/Athlon 64 looks to be the pick of the bunch in terms of performance and manageable heat. The latest 150/250/850 series runs at 2.4 GHz and is in the same performance league as the IBM fabbed chip in the latest Macs. These processors do not need anything more than the usual heat sind and fan for cooling though. Intel is in trouble with the latest P4 iteration - Prescott - running very hot and needing new case designs and seriously big heatsinks. The latest Prescott version of the P4 is a 90nm chip and it produces over 100 Watts of heat in versions clocked above 3 Ghz. These things run on not much more than 1 volt so they are sucking the better part of 100 amps of current to produce that much heat. Reports are that the 90 nm Dothian will run like hell in a desktop system (outperform a P4 3.4) and will do it with a modest thermal envelope - these machines might be the ticket for low noise PC DAWs later this year. IBM who make the chips for G5 Macs no doubt have some more tricks up their sleeve and will be able to deliver more performance in time - just not at the sort of rate of increase we have come to expect over the last decade or so. Current enhancements of the now decades old CMOS process being employed include - Silicon on insulator, Strained Silicon, Low K dielectric, even separating the Silicon isotopes out has some promise. Dothian saves power by not powering all sections of the die all the time. Some manufacturers - notably IBM have patents on these tricks and licence them to others like AMD or even fab the chips for AMD. Intel has - from what I have read - tried to avoid cross licencing deals with IBM so it can't use some of IBM's methods - one reason why they have fallen behind AMD. Regards, Murray

Does anyone else out there wish that there were more RTAS (Digidesign)compatible pluggs that were also available for AU(audio units)... Particularly syncroarts vocalign? Somebody mentioned the audio quantizing in logic being under tooled and I have to agree. Digidesign bought sycroarts not that long ago and it seems its for no reason other than to keep certain things out of the hands of VST and Audio units users. Thats just plain Bush style strong arm politics and I think die hard logic users need to send e mails to digi about this tactic. Syncro arts sent me a reply saying digi simply won't alow a vst or au version now that they've bought the company. Fxpansion is being disallowed from doing a wrapper as well. Does anyone have any logic techniques for quantizing vocals to one another. This is an area logic could use a new plug added in an upcoming version if you ask me...or a revised audio engine all together.

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I am using Virtual Guitarist on Logic Pro. One of the parameters of this virtual instrument is called "part" - there are up to eight variations on the riff, you can move between them in real time by clicking on the buttons on the instrument interface. When I zoom into the track automation for this "part" parameter, the zoom level isn't high enough to isolate the 0-8 range I need from the 0-127 total, so it's a fiddly business drawing in the points. I think it would be easier to control this parameter in real time through my digital piano - using the lowest eight notes which I don't really play. I believe I need to create a transformer in the environment that would transform these note events to controller events - or are they "meta" events? I don't know how the transformer works - could anyone explain how to create this? Thanks Dan Antopolski

On a fine day, 21-06-2004, dan.antopolski@ wrote: >I am using Virtual Guitarist on Logic Pro. > >One of the parameters of this virtual instrument is called "part" - >there are up to eight variations on the riff, you can move between them >in real time by clicking on the buttons on the instrument interface. > >When I zoom into the track automation for this "part" parameter, the >zoom level isn't high enough to isolate the 0-8 range I need from the >0-127 total, so it's a fiddly business drawing in the points. > >I think it would be easier to control this parameter in real time >through my digital piano - using the lowest eight notes which I don't >really play. > >I believe I need to create a transformer in the environment that would >transform these note events to controller events - or are they "meta" >events? I don't know how the transformer works - could anyone explain >how to create this? I'm not sure why you post this in the OT group instead of the LUG, as it is very much _on_ topic. Oh well, anyway... In the audio mxier, create a Monitor object. Cable from the Virtual Guitarist mixer strip into the Monitor. Press the part-buttons and watch the Monitor. If all is well you should see something like "F 2 xx yy". That's: Fader event on channel 2, the event type is xx and the value is yy. Hopefully you get just _one_ xx value for all buttons with different yy's (probably 0-8). Remember the xx and yy's. Go to the Clicks and Ports layer of the environment and create 2 transformers. Cable from Physical Input SUM outlet into the 1st transformer. Cable the 1st outlet of this transformer into the To Sequencer (sometimes called "to rec & thru") object (this path thus replaces the original PhysIn SUM -> To Sequencer cable). Cable the 2nd outlet of this transformer into the 2nd transformer. Open a 2nd environment window, this time showing the VG mixer strip. Cable the 1st outlet of the 2nd transformer into the mixer strip (click-hold on the transformer outlet in the 1st window and drag until the mixer strip in the 2nd window highlights). You've now created a cross-layer cable. Double click the 1st transformer and set its top popup to "Condition Splitter". Set the Conditions to "Status = Note" and "Pitch Outside aa bb" where aa and bb are the 1st and last note you want to use for switching. This transformer now picks the notes you don't want to use, sends them out the top cable so that they enter the sequencer. The other notes (i.e. the switches) leave the bottom cable and go to the 2nd transformer). Double click the 2nd transformer and its top popup to "Track Automation Splitter". Set the Conditions to "-2- Unequal 0" (filter out note-offs). Set the Operations to "Status Fix Fader", "Cha Fix 2", "-1- Fix xx" where xx is the value you observed earlier, and "-2- Use Map". This is: transformer to Fader Events on channel 2 (VSTi insert slot) with the proper parameter value. In between Conditions and Operations you see 3 vertical black lines: | | |. Click on the last on until it looks like "| | " so the Conditions -1- parameter is connected to the Operations -2- parameter. Now all you need to do is draw the map at the bottom of the transformer. Suppose the notes you want to use are midi-notes 36-44, and the VG buttons send out values 0-8 (the yy's you noted earlier). Scroll the 1st numerical box at the bottom left of the transformer window to 36, and set the 2nd box to 0. Then increment the 1st box to 37 and set the 2nd box to 1... until you end with the 1st box at 44 and the 2nd box at 8. Done. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Hendrik I have just done what you said and it works perfectly. A thousand thanks. I have always wondered how to use transformers but they have seemed intimidatingly complex and there isn't very clear help in the manual - is there any more user-friendly writing on the subject? Thanks again Dan Antopolski

I work with logic & reason. while the aplications were running, live was installed and turned on. i quit all applications, restarted the computer, I opened one of my projects and all the rewire assignments of the tracks were changed to live. i changed all the assingments back to reason and you can see activity but there is no sound. please help!!

On a fine day, 21-06-2004, dan.antopolski@ wrote: >Hendrik > >I have just done what you said and it works perfectly. A thousand >thanks. Glad it works -- and you're welcome. >I have always wondered how to use transformers but they have seemed >intimidatingly complex and there isn't very clear help in the manual - >is there any more user-friendly writing on the subject? Not that I know of... However, I don't think transformers are really that difficult in themselves. The difficulty is more in acquiring the mindset that enables you to use them. Sounds silly, but I'm serious. The basic idea is pretty simple: use Conditions that will match the required input data, and set up Operations that transform the input to the desired output format. That's about it (minus some details such as the use of the top "mode" popup, and using the 3 vertical bars that connect Conditions and Operations). Using them however requires you to think somewhat like a programmer, which is probably not a typical musician-skill -- and _that_ is most likely the biggest problem. But, if you're serious about wanting to learn how to do stuff in the with transformers, you can do 2 things, simultaneously. First, build your own patches, starting simple -- like using a transformer to transpose all live mididata one octave up or down, or something like that. Use your mod-wheel to control the EXS's filter cutoff. Etcetera. Second, download small environments either from www. swiftkick.com or from my site, and dissect them and study them until you understand what happens. Insert Monitor objects here and there in those patches to see what sort of data gets in and what comes out, etc. Takes some time, but imo this is the only way if you really want to learn to "program" using the environment. The same holds true for genuine programming as well, again imo. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, dan.antopolski@ <dan.antopolski@b...> wrote: > I am using Virtual Guitarist on Logic Pro. > > One of the parameters of this virtual instrument is called "part" - > there are up to eight variations on the riff, you can move between them > in real time by clicking on the buttons on the instrument interface. > I think it would be easier to control this parameter in real time > through my digital piano - using the lowest eight notes which I don't > really play. > > Hi Dan, Isn't there an option in the setup page of the VG GUI that does exactly what you are talking about? You can change the part using a bunch of different selectable controllers but one of them IS the low octave on the keyboard. Then again, learning to make a transformer to do what you need it to do is a handy skill so hats off! best, Nathan

Hi Yall, Anyone know of any VST or VSTi plugins that allow functional DJ style scratching? Something that uses standard MIDI notes/controllers would be preferred. Thanks, Matt Miller http://www.millertone.com

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