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From: Murray McDowall <murraymc@...>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 at 12:39:38 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Buying new PC, but which
Message #5776
This is a reply to #5775.
At 06:57 PM 3/15/04 +0100, you wrote: >Actually it´s not for me and I know that PC and Logic don´t match anymore >but since I haven´t really been following anything on the PC side since the >Emapple showstopper I would like to know - which motherboard, processor etc >would be the right ones to buy now. Oh yeah it´s got to be cheap as welland >it doesn´t matter if it´s not the latest fastest one as long as it´sstable >and not slow. If you are going Intel: Asus P4P800 is cheap(ish) and good. Asus P4C800E Deluxe is widely regarded as one of the best but it is pricier. Get a P42.8C/3.0C processor and 1 - 2 GB of DDR400 (brand name) Decent case and powersupply is a very good idea IMHO If you are going AMD there are a bunch of choices according to processor (Athlon/Athlon64) RME forums - rme-audio.forum on news.x-networks.de has recommendations from users on what to choose. You could also look on www.TomsHardware.com/Anandtech.com for recomendations. The choice could depend on your sound hardware and what is working for people with that card/Interface. Regards, M
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From: "HKC" <hkc@...>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 at 3:23:19 PM
Subject: Cheap, decent soundcard
Message #5777
What should I buy if I need a low latency 2 in/out soundcard. It´s just for home recording but it´s absolutely a must that it´s stable. Latency should be low enough for playing softsynths, I seem to remember that the Delta Audiophile is pretty good, is that still the case, they´re very cheapnow. Henrik Krogh henrikkrogh@...
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From: Brian Pylant <bappo@...>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 at 8:45:55 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Cheap, decent soundcard
Message #5778
This is a reply to #5777.
On Mar 15, 2004, at 4:23 PM, HKC wrote: > What should I buy if I need a low latency 2 in/out soundcard. It´s > just for home recording but it´s absolutely a must that it´s stable. > Latency should be low enough for playing softsynths, I seem to > remember that the Delta Audiophile is pretty good, is that still the > case, they´re very cheap now. I couldn't be happier with my Audiophile 24/96 card. The latency is so low that I routinely play softsynths in realtime without noticing any delay (I use the Audiophile's MIDI I/O as well as audio I/O), and I have zero stability issues (using the CoreAudio drivers in OS X; YMMV if you're not using OS X yet). Brian ___________________________ Logic Audio Platinum 6.3.3 PowerMac G4 933MHz OS X 10.3.2 1 GB RAM M-Audio Delta 24/96 (fed via S/PDIF from a Yamaha DSP Factory)
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From: mars@...
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 at 10:28:57 PM
Subject: re: Session Setup X (was: Normalize Vs Gain )
Message #5779
> ** Original Message follows... > From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> > Subject: re:Normalize Vs Gain > > On a fine day, 14-03-2004, mars@... wrote: > > >BTW, I can't remember if I ever responed to you, but both versions > >of Session Setup X worked fine - even under Panther. > > Ah, wonderful! No, you never responded -- and I forgot about it as > well :-). So I suppose I can put it up for grabs then... Thanks for > beta-testing. Still I think I should try myself one of these days > (now that I've got an X-laptop). I wondered (and forgot to ask you) > if the 'labels' stuff simply carries over from 9 into X.3 or if that > requries a new implementation (or omission -- whichever of the 2 is > easiest :-). > I'll test that now that I've got Panther. BTW, the version I use is the one that has the Reason-like icon. Mars
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 at 1:11:45 AM
Subject: [L-OT] re: Session Setup X (was: Normalize Vs Gain )
Message #5780
This is a reply to #5779.
On a fine day, 16-03-2004, mars@... wrote: >I'll test that now that I've got Panther. Great! >BTW, the version I use is the one that has the Reason-like icon. Don't they both have the smae icon? Which is the same as the v9 icon? -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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From: Geoff Mattoon <mytoon@...>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 at 3:30:51 PM
Subject: Help my Midi doesn't work
Message #5781
I just loaded Logic 6 into my 400 MHz G4 running OSX (Panther) and unfortunately the Midi doesn't work. I am using a MOTU micro express with a serial card (gee three). I downloaded the updated drivers for both the Motu and the Gee Three card but unfortunately the Apple audio midi setup doesn't seem to recognize the drivers. Any ideas out there? Thanks in advance, Mytoon
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From: "HKC" <hkc@...>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 at 5:01:25 AM
Subject: PSP Nitro
Message #5782
Per Boysen wrote: the new PSP Nitro filterbank plug-in is fantastic How does it compare to Quad Fromage if you know that one or are they two different beasts. I am very tempted to buy this one to get the pre-order discount but on the other hand how many filters do you need. I have everything else by PSP except for the delays and to me they are one of the best but so is Ohm Force. Henrik Krogh henrikkrogh@...
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From: "Roger Jackson" <rj@...>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 at 5:29:28 AM
Subject: LaCie 500 & TB discs
Message #5783
Is anyone using these? Are you happy with them? RJ Film Music OXFORD UK
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From: Per Boysen <per@...>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 at 5:53:05 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] PSP Nitro
Message #5784
This is a reply to #5782.
On 04-03-18 12.01, "HKC" <hkc@...> wrote: > Per Boysen wrote: the new PSP Nitro filterbank plug-in is fantastic > > How does it compare to Quad Fromage if you know that one or are they two > different beasts. I am very tempted to buy this one to get the pre-order > discount but on the other hand how many filters do you need. I have > everything else by PSP except for the delays and to me they are one of the > best but so is Ohm Force. > Henrik Krogh > henrikkrogh@... > When I tried the Quad Frohmage it enabled me to get a very hard and funny techno sound on drum beats. Example: http://www.boysen.se/audio/hard_techno_rock.mp3 The PSP Nitro is very different IMO. It seems to me that its strange is dynamic filtering synced to song tempo. It can provide almost "3D ambience". I also have an external analog filter bank, the Akai MFV42, and with the PSP Nitro I can get those sounds right away without having to route audio externally through the Akai and record it back again. I guess you know there is a demo of the PSP Nitro available? It's quite CPU intensive so in praxis it will only be used with my G5. Best wishes Per Boysen -- www.boysen.se www.looproom.com
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From: "dollenmayer" <dollenmayer@...>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 at 7:48:13 AM
Subject: working with drum loops-HELP!!!
Message #5785
Getting frustrated trying to work with drum loop regions within Logic 4.8 on windows ME. trying to follow manual to no avail. I am importing in a .wav file, easily copying but can't move the regions by 1 click like the manual suggests, to get them to line up. Also tried using start and end positions within event list, but I can't change start and stop position. Anyone with experience please help. I have only used Logic at this point to record "live" musicians. I want to get into more "remixing" etc. Thanks! for any help.
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From: Brian Keith Voiles <admagic@...>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 at 11:37:29 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] working with drum loops-HELP!!!
Message #5786
This is a reply to #5785.
Make sure you have your environment tempo set to match the temp of the loop you're importing. At 01:48 PM 3/18/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Getting frustrated trying to work with drum loop regions within >Logic 4.8 on windows ME. trying to follow manual to no avail. I am >importing in a .wav file, easily copying but can't move the regions >by 1 click like the manual suggests, to get them to line up. Also >tried using start and end positions within event list, but I can't >change start and stop position. Anyone with experience please >help. I have only used Logic at this point to record "live" >musicians. I want to get into more "remixing" etc. Thanks! for any >help. > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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From: "Steve" <satrackworks@...>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 at 12:45:28 PM
Subject: [L-OT] Distressor
Message #5787
Is anybody aware of a plug-in that emulates the emperical labs distressor? Great for adding some aggression to drums. Thanks, Steve
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From: "markdvc2002" <mark@...>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 1:48:14 AM
Subject: Re: LaCie 500 & TB discs
Message #5788
This is a reply to #5783.
--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Jackson" <rj@f...> wrote: > Is anyone using these? Are you happy with them? > This may not be what you are looking for, but seeing as nobody else has replied - I have the 320 GB Big Disk from LaCie, and am very happy with it. Gives me at least the same track count, used with my laptop, as the internal 7200 drive on my desktop, and it is "only" the FW 400 version. It is very quiet, although it does get quite warm. I think it is safe to assume that the 500/1TB FW 800 models are even better ... HTH, kind regards Mark Cahill
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From: Cyril Blanc <blanc.cyril@...>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 4:39:11 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Help my Midi doesn't work
Message #5789
This is a reply to #5781.
On 3/16/04 10:30 PM, "Geoff Mattoon" <mytoon@...> wrote: > I just loaded Logic 6 into my 400 MHz G4 running OSX (Panther) and > unfortunately the Midi doesn't work. I am using a MOTU micro express > with a serial card (gee three). I downloaded the updated drivers for > both the Motu and the Gee Three card but unfortunately the Apple audio > midi setup doesn't seem to recognize the drivers. Any ideas out there? > Thanks in advance, > Mytoon Read well the instructions, you must make the serial port available ! Best Cyril Blanc Independent Quantum Leap Symphony orchestra forum (QLSO) for Mac http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qlso/"; A6 Andromeda forum : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A6_andromeda/"; Petition : ³Support of the APPLE LaserWriter 300 in MAC OS X² http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Ap1c1/petition.html
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From: "mike4stew8" <mike4stew8@...>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 6:34:39 PM
Subject: Re: Clean Panther install from Panther upgrade disks?
Message #5790
This was'nt allowed on the logic list. > Yes I had the same issue. The only way to escape from Apples small > minded, cheapskate update policy, ( and this is after just buying a > new G5 ) is to make a new install CD Image, removing the program that > checks for 10.2.8 and then burning the new image. I did come across a > site with a complete run through of how to do it, because we are not > the only people suffering from this "situation". > Try searching MacRumors.com. > If you get stuck I'll see if I still have it for you. > Regards, Mike > > > > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Jules Bromley" <jules@t...> > wrote: > > [Note from admin: please send all replies privately or to > > Logic-OT@yahoogroups.com, thanks!] > > > > I'm really sorry to post this here, but I'm desperate. > > > > After my recent issues with Logic, I bit the bullet this morning and decided > > to do a clean Panther install. I erased, formatted and partitioned my disk > > and then started the install process, only to be told by the installer I > > needed an existing installation of OS X in order to install Panther (I'm > > using the Panther Upgrade disks I got from Apple). > > > > I have the Jaguar disks, but really want this installation to be a clean > > Panther install.
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From: Mercury Design Group <mdg@...>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 7:06:51 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Re: LaCie 500 & TB discs
Message #5791
This is a reply to #5788.
I love my 500gb big disk, for what it's worth....G..
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From: Brian Pylant <bappo@...>
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 at 7:46:50 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Re: Clean Panther install from Panther upgrade disks?
Message #5792
>> Yes I had the same issue. The only way to escape from Apples small >> minded, cheapskate update policy, ( and this is after just buying a >> new G5 ) is to make a new install CD Image, removing the program > that >> checks for 10.2.8 and then burning the new image. Is this from an installer other than the one you get by purchasing Panther? A special CD they send because you bought a machine that came with Jaguar after Panther was released, maybe? I ask because there is no separate Panther Upgrade product; when you buy Panther it's the full $129, and you get the full version whether it's a new purchase or you already own Jaguar, 10.0, etc. Confusedly yours, Brian ___________________________ Logic Audio Platinum 6.3.3 PowerMac G4 933MHz OS X 10.3.2 1 GB RAM M-Audio Delta 24/96 (fed via S/PDIF from a Yamaha DSP Factory)
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From: "Paul Stephenson" <pauls@...>
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 at 5:03:31 PM
Subject: FW: [LUG] logic as a remixing tool... argh
Message #5793
Emagic, Please read the letter below. It pretty much describes how we all feel about Logic's Audio Capabilities for working seamlessly. Please believe me when I say that more than a few hundred people that need what this message describes. I still love logic, but I moved from PC to Mac, and I really loved Sound Forge for audio editing. After moving to the Mac I haven't found a program that allows me to work as fast as I could on PC, but the idea of having sample accurate cutting of audio in the arrange window and allowing us to move audio to any location we want, i.e. not limited to tick mark resolution, is awesome! Thanks for tools, Paul Stephenson -----Original Message----- From: i_love_ubik [mailto:i_love_ubik@...] Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:01 PM To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [LUG] logic as a remixing tool... argh > > > IMO, in going from PT to Logic you went from the strongest audio > > > editor to the weakest. > i don't get why people say this. the audio editing in logic is fine. > if by being different pro tools makes it weak then i guess. For me the partykiller is the lack of sample-accuracy in the arrange window. I want to zoom all the way in, make my cut precisely where the zero-cross is, grab the edge and drag the soundbite to some easily discernable predefined beat on the time ruler, flash to the other edge, cut it at the zero cross closest to the same time division, zoom out. In PT, or Cubase, or DP, I can do the above in about 5 seconds in the same window, and have a seamless, popless loop placed exactly where I need it. In Logic, it takes 5x longer and I have to keep switching out to the sample editor, and I'm never 100% confident I'm actually at the right beat division until I press play and hear it. So yes, I can do it in Logic, I can't argue that it's 'fine'. It's just that I cut my teeth on editors that are 'exemplary', and I miss them at times. Respectfully, u b i k _________________________________________________________________ / Logic Users Group - http://www.logic-users.org/ListPolicy.html / Subjects labels: no more [LAM], it is now considered default / ... include a label only when applicable: [GEN] [LAW] [LC] [OT] / Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links
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From: tony vincent <aps@...>
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 at 8:33:15 PM
Subject: are disk utilities REALLY necessary in osX?
Message #5794
i've heard that disk utilities aren't as "required" as they were in os 9. are disk "utilities" necessary-- outside osX's "disk utility"? are norton or diskwarrior necessary after the move from os 9? tv
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From: "Ck" <chck67@...>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 at 8:02:29 AM
Subject: ASIO Drivers
Message #5795
Been looking into ASIO drivers for a Soundblaster Value Card in my Dell Dimension. I'd like to install the 'KX Drivers' (ASIO) but have read they won't work with a 'Dell' Soundblaster because of the way Dell "configures" their cards ...... Does anyone have any experience or opinions on this ??? Thanks, ck I could just get another card but for what I'm doing (home/band recording) the SBLive is fine ......
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From: xtreammusic <xtreammusic@...>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 at 8:41:42 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] are disk utilities REALLY necessary in osX?
Message #5796
This is a reply to #5794.
Diskwarrior 100% YES. There is nothing like diskwarrior to keep your filesystem running smooth. It's good to run every other month or so. Norton is only useful for repairing files. It's not reliable for other repairs and apple does not advise running speed disk. It could actually make your computer slower. ...Alex On Mar 20, 2004, at 9:33 PM, tony vincent wrote: > i've heard that disk utilities aren't as "required" as they were in  > os 9. > are disk "utilities" necessary-- outside osX's "disk utility"?  are > norton > or diskwarrior necessary after the move from os 9? > tv
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From: niall munnelly <aleph@...>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 at 9:32:52 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] ASIO Drivers
Message #5797
This is a reply to #5795.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 02:02:29PM -0000, Ck wrote: > Been looking into ASIO drivers for a Soundblaster Value Card > in my Dell Dimension. > > I'd like to install the 'KX Drivers' (ASIO) but have read > they won't work with a 'Dell' Soundblaster because of the > way Dell "configures" their cards ...... i've never used the kx asio drivers, but if they don't work for oyu, try asio4all. i'd post the link, but i don't have web access at the moment. search on google, it'll be the first hit. -- yours, niall. .. . . . . . . . . . aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence.
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From: "Billy" <williamthekid@...>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 at 9:46:19 AM
Subject: The white light society
Message #5798
just wanted to show you guys some good free music. http://thewhitelightsociety.com/disc.cfm clean [for those at the office] -billy
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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 at 11:39:46 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] are disk utilities REALLY necessary in osX?
Message #5799
This is a reply to #5796.
At 9:41 Uhr -0500 24.03.2004, xtreammusic wrote: >It's not reliable for other repairs and apple does not advise >running speed disk. It could actually >make your computer slower. Well, I can only speak from experience and my OS X machine gets a speed boost after every defrag. I do it every two weeks and it works like a charm. And boom, faster working. Where is all this slowing down stuff coming from? Did someone actually try doing it and found it to be slower? Am I not paying attention to my system that I use about 15 hours a day? Do I not know what it actually feels like for the tasks I'm performing.. well... everyone judge for themselves, but don't say things in a way where they sound like a fact. If it's your experience that it's slower say so, because my experience is certainly the opposite. Cheers Hans
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From: "Paul Stephenson" <pauls@...>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 at 8:29:57 PM
Subject: [LUG] Slightly OT - New Drivers released for Metric Halo that fixes issues with Logic
Message #5800
I know several of you use Metric Halo interfaces, and they just released a new driver that is supposed to fix all the issues with Logic. Download at http://www.spectrafoo.com/MIO/ Paul Stephenson
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