> > At 10:08 AM 12/8/2003, you wrote: >>> The 414 is not a "skinny" mic. It has many applications. It's >>>great on nasal >>> or loud vocals, guitar amps, piano, drumset, etc. Me and my >>>buddies think of >>> it as a higher quality SM57/58. >> >> It also depends on which one. There are about 5 or 6 different 414's and >> they have different sounds. Just avoid the p48 or B-ULS ones whh have that >> harsh midrange which maybe what the poster means by 'skinny'. >> >> Colin Miller > >true. I am not familiar with the model break down but I have been in a few studio situations where somebody put a 414 of some variety on my voice and we went back to a Nueman every time. OTOH I like the cheeper C3000 (I think that is the right model number) on my voice.

I'm a teacher and we do still run some Macs at our school.... When I shut down it will often act like it's shutting down - come back up like it's re-booting itself - and then finally go off (although usually not multiple times). Never thought about it much till I read your post though! Glad to know it's not just me.... Becky --- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, tony vincent <aps@t...> wrote: > being that i'm a logic user, i thought i'd throw this out to fellow > users--even though this is a mac-specific question. > > upon shutdown, does anyone else have their computer acting like it > "restarting".... sometime multiple times before it actually (properly) > shuts down? > > tony vincent

I wish emagic would release a version of Logic Control with a Firewire I/O and audio inputs and outputs much like the Tascam FW1884. My only complaint with the FW1884 is no display of any kind. It's not a show stopper, but why leave it out? Probably cost reasons. Regards, Mark

On 12/9/03 9:08 PM, "ewald_kegel" <ewald_kegel@...> wrote: > Hi there, > > I was curious to know if any of you LUG-gers has experience with the > Motu 828 MkII together with OSX.3 and latest LAMP version. > > As I'm thinking of moving to the G5 platform soon, I'm also > interested in your views on good SCSI PCI(X) cards for the G5 DP. > > Thank in advance, Ewald > Think about sharing the load on your MAC on the different bus, FW Audio is not a good idea if you work on big projects especially if you have already a FW disk. I will look to a PCI system like the Motu PCI 424 (NO LATENCY with CUE MIX) ;-)))))) (I have one) Why do you want an SCSI card on the G4 ? . Best Cyril Blanc France Please sign the petition ³Apple to support APPLE LaserWriter 300 in MAC OS X² http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Ap1c1/petition.html If you want to be sure I read your answer leave my name in it ! Spam mails are directly going to trash

> Think about sharing the load on your MAC on the different bus, FW Audio is > not a good idea if you work on big projects especially if you have already a > FW disk. > I will look to a PCI system like the Motu PCI 424 (NO LATENCY with CUE MIX) > ;-)))))) (I have one) > > Why do you want an SCSI card on the G4 ? > > . > > Best > > Cyril Blanc > France Ah, thanks for the info on the 828, Cyril. I have no experience in using FW Audio, but can imagine the strain on larger projects. So the 424 + 2408 might be a better solution. On my current system I have a lot of Gb's in SCSI HD so I'd like to use them in a new set up. Looked up some prices and it's cheaper than buying new hard discs.

At 05:56 PM 12/9/2003, you wrote: >I am not familiar with the model break down but I have been in a few >studio situations where somebody put a 414 of some variety on my >voice and we went back to a Nueman every time. OTOH I like the >cheeper C3000 (I think that is the right model number) on my voice. That's easily believable since there really aren't many rules on vocals. Everyone's voice is different so there's no telling what Mic will be best. I remember one singer trying every fancy neuman, etc mic we could find, but couldn't get them to sound nearly as good as an RE20 on him. The different model 414's sound different so theoretically the cheaper ones could even sound better on someone's voice than the good ones (but less likely). The original (C414) has a C12 capsule, so you can bet its pretty nice. but the later models started using cheaper parts and different capsules. I personally cannot stand the C300, but as you mentioned, for you it works better than some neumans on your voice. My personal all around favs which i go to when there isn't a chance to find the best mic is usually the U67 or M149. I guess the best bet for the original poster is to see how many mics you can borrow or get ahold of to try out on yourself until you find the one that works best (it could end up being a 57...) Colin Miller

i'm in CG, too -- just take the G train from Carroll Street. Way OT!! > Ahhhh. I'm the exotic Gardens of Carroll, don't get up to Williamsburg much > unless I have a Galapagos gig. There's also Rumble Seat in Park Slope which > is very good and has extremely nice people working there. but I think the > original poster wasn't even from NYC.... so.

roman pirie wrote: >Adrian, can you sample the drums as cleanly as possible from the drumtraks >for me? I believe there are only 12 sounds and they aren't velocity layered >or anything so just the wav/aiff files would be good. Ok, give me a bit of time though. I'm up to my ears in work. I'll make them available for download somewhere in case anyone else wants them. > I can email you some drums in return for these samples. Please, no! ;-) I recently backed up my samples partition and to my horror discovered it was approaching 20Gb - most of it drums!

Hi there! I'm still on LAWP 5.5.0 with an AMT8 (plan to cross-grade to G5 mid-2004) but I'm looking to add a Logic Control surface to my setup. Are there any known issues or bugs I should be aware of? I haven't installed LAWP 5.5.1 because frankly 5.5.0 works fine and you know the saying, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. :) Thanks, Mark Holloway PS - I did post this on "logic-users" but I'm not sure if they'll allow it since it's about the control surface, thus my reason for posting it here too.

Hello, Iam a newbie to the MAC world and to Logic. I was wondering if anyone could steer my in the right direction for a good soundcard to use with my MAC G5. I'm willing to spend about $500-$800 for a nice soundcard. I was looking at the MOTU 828 series, but I've heard that it has a lot of bugs in it. I want a good MDID interface along with SMTPE and audio in and out. Any info is appreciated. J

On 03-12-16 06.56, "Jean Luc De Lorme" <atomicdream@...> wrote: > Hello, Iam a newbie to the MAC world and to Logic. I was > wondering if anyone could steer my in the right direction for a good > soundcard to use with my MAC G5. I'm willing to spend about $500-$800 > for a nice soundcard. > > I was looking at the MOTU 828 series, but I've heard that it has > a lot of bugs in it. I want a good MDID interface along with SMTPE > and audio in and out. Any info is appreciated. > > J Hi, I have heard such good things about the RME Multiface that I ordered one to use with my Mac G5 (PCI interface) in the studio and also with PC laptops for concerts (card-bus interface). Mine has not arrived yet, though. I'm not quite sure it sends out analog smpte signal. In fact I have always used special smpte generators for doing that - if I have to record a smpte stripe to some media. If you're seriously interested in an opinion on the RME box pleas get back to me in a month or so. I should know by then ;-) -- Best wishes Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.looproom.com

Thank you for the info, I'm checking out the RME site right now. It looks pretty good so far! :) J --- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <per@b...> wrote: > On 03-12-16 06.56, "Jean Luc De Lorme" <atomicdream@y...> wrote: > > > Hello, Iam a newbie to the MAC world and to Logic. I was > > wondering if anyone could steer my in the right direction for a good > > soundcard to use with my MAC G5. I'm willing to spend about $500- $800 > > for a nice soundcard. > > > > I was looking at the MOTU 828 series, but I've heard that it has > > a lot of bugs in it. I want a good MDID interface along with SMTPE > > and audio in and out. Any info is appreciated. > > > > J > > > Hi, > > I have heard such good things about the RME Multiface that I ordered one to > use with my Mac G5 (PCI interface) in the studio and also with PC laptops > for concerts (card-bus interface). Mine has not arrived yet, though. I'm not > quite sure it sends out analog smpte signal. In fact I have always used > special smpte generators for doing that - if I have to record a smpte stripe > to some media. > > If you're seriously interested in an opinion on the RME box pleas get back > to me in a month or so. I should know by then ;-) > > -- > Best wishes > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.looproom.com

> On 03-12-16 06.56, "Jean Luc De Lorme" <atomicdream@...> wrote: > >> Hello, Iam a newbie to the MAC world and to Logic. I was >> wondering if anyone could steer my in the right direction for a good >> soundcard to use with my MAC G5. I'm willing to spend about $500-$800 >> for a nice soundcard. >> >> I was looking at the MOTU 828 series, but I've heard that it has >> a lot of bugs in it. I want a good MDID interface along with SMTPE >> and audio in and out. Any info is appreciated. >> >> J If you want no latency : get a MOTU PCI 424/G5 system (see depending of the number of ins/out what you need) Buying a FW audio interface is not good for BIG projects especially if you have a second FW device like a disk. I own a Motu system with 54 ins and 12 outs made with (PCI 424/G5, 1296+2048MKII+24i) Est tu Français ? Ou est-tu un cousin Canadien ? Best regards Cyril Blanc France Please sign the petition ³Apple to support APPLE LaserWriter 300 in MAC OS X² http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Ap1c1/petition.html If you want to be sure I read your answer leave my name in it ! Spam mails are directly going to trash

hello all, i won't disguise this as anything other than a plug...but you can hear a new song i made by clicking the link below. it was made entirely with Logic and it's included synths (except for the drums, sequenced in Logic but triggered with Ritmo AU). http://www.jonzaremba.com/strength_without_unity.mp3 bye, jon z. http://www.jonzaremba.com (music) http://www.savetheuniverse.us (words) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/03

> > http://www.jonzaremba.com/strength_without_unity.mp3 Nice! Put a smile on my face at least..;-) I can imagine this being used as a soundtrack in an absurd violent/comic movie, like 'kill bill' or the likes. ok ok, every reaction should have a point of critique to, I know... Well, maybe the tempo-slow down in the middle could have been dressed up a bit, musically. But then again, maybe not! Cheers! Arvid.

You might want to read this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16540-2003Dec19.html

The problem is that this kid used his iPod every day for hours and Lord only knows how many times he re-charged it. The average user might get 3 - 4 (or more) years of life from an iPod (more than most people get from their Walkman, Discman, or their outdated Rio mp3 player they bought several years ago) so in my opinion he does not represent the general population. Yeah, it sucks to know the battery will crap out. But Apple will fix it for free if it happens in a year or you can buy an extended warranty. Honestly though, I think after a few years most people will buy a new one, like getting a new cell phone. Their becoming commodity (cell phones AND mp3 players). --- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Murray McDowall <murraymc@m...> wrote: > You might want to read this: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16540-2003Dec19.html

dfusion2000@... wrote: >Yeah, it sucks to know the battery will crap out. But Apple will >fix it for free if it happens in a year or you can buy an extended >warranty. Honestly though, I think after a few years most people >will buy a new one, like getting a new cell phone. Their becoming >commodity (cell phones AND mp3 players). The point of the article in the link was that Apple originally did not offer replacement batteries. The guy at the centre of the story was amazed and disgusted that they just wanted him to junk the unit and buy another. He and his brother then applied a little pressure through the multimedia dramatisation they created and, lo and behold, Apple came up with a change in policy. NOW they do offer a battery replacement scheme.

No, the guy was just too lazy to buy a new battery and replace it himself, so he whined and whined about it until he got his way. --- Plate of shrimp On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:19:33 Murray McDowall wrote: >dfusion2000@... wrote: > >>Yeah, it sucks to know the battery will crap out. But Apple will >>fix it for free if it happens in a year or you can buy an extended >>warranty. Honestly though, I think after a few years most people >>will buy a new one, like getting a new cell phone. Their becoming >>commodity (cell phones AND mp3 players). > >The point of the article in the link was that Apple originally did not >offer replacement batteries. The guy at the centre of the story was amazed >and disgusted that they just wanted him to junk the unit and buy another. >He and his brother then applied a little pressure through the multimedia >dramatisation they created and, lo and behold, Apple came up with a change >in policy. NOW they do offer a battery replacement scheme. > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-ot/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > logic-ot-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus

At 09:14 AM 12/22/03 -0800, you wrote: >No, the guy was just too lazy to buy a new battery and replace it himself, >so he whined and whined about it until he got his way. Not so. He tried this route. I find it interesting that consumers defend large companies and attack fellow consumers who defend their interests.

He was told that the battery would cost $250US. So as I understand it, you'd be willing to fork over that kind of money for a battery? I also take it that you think that consumers should simply buy what's sold to them, and not complain? If the answer to the above two questions is yes, I would have to conclude that you have more money than you know what to do with, and that you are that marketeers dream - the perfect consumer. You swallow what you're fed, pay up and shut up. Frankly I hope the majority of the Western World have more self-respect than you seem to exhibit. If not, it would be fair to characterize us as a population of automatons - programmed to hand over dollars and ingest whatever form of excrement that manufacturers want to hand us. Rob Yale On Dec 22, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Chris Butler wrote: > No, the guy was just too lazy to buy a new battery and replace it > himself, so he whined and whined about it until he got his way. > > --- > Plate of shrimp > > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:19:33  > Murray McDowall wrote: > >dfusion2000@... wrote: > > > >>Yeah, it sucks to know the battery will crap out.  But Apple will > >>fix it for free if it happens in a year or you can buy an extended > >>warranty.  Honestly though, I think after a few years most people > >>will buy a new one, like getting a new cell phone.  Their becoming > >>commodity (cell phones AND mp3 players). > > > >The point of the article in the link was that Apple originally did not > >offer  replacement batteries. The guy at the centre of the story was > amazed > >and disgusted that they just wanted him to junk the unit and buy > another. > >He and his brother then applied a little pressure through the > multimedia > >dramatisation they created and,  lo and behold, Apple came up with a > change > >in policy. NOW they do offer a battery replacement scheme. > > > >

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <dfusion2000@y...> wrote: > Hi there! I'm still on LAWP 5.5.0 with an AMT8 (plan to cross-grade > to G5 mid-2004) but I'm looking to add a Logic Control surface to my I personally have NO complaints about Logic control, it is by far my favortie piece of gear in my studio.......... You also get Mackie Control funtionality with it now also. It is very well integrated into Logic. Jordan

Where the hell do you get off saying shit like that, without doing your research - EXACTLY like the guy who made the video? Of course charging $250 to replace a battery is ridiculous. But, if you bother to look around for about 10 seconds, you'll find you can buy a battery for $50 from ipodbattery.com, and it's a matter of minutes to replace it in the old style ipods. So far from having more money than I know what to do with, or swallowing what companies give me, I take the time to look a little deeper into what I own and what is going on, and doing enough research to be truly informed. I don't expect any corporation to do anything BUT screw the consumer, so I take steps to ensure that when it happens, I'll be ready. It's not that hard, unless you have too much 'self-respect' to learn a thing or two on your own, I guess. Chris P.S. Keep on drawing conclusions about me and all of Western Civilization based on a post to a mailing list, it makes you look so very intelligent. --- Plate of shrimp On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:37:29 Rob Yale wrote: >He was told that the battery would cost $250US. So as I understand it, >you'd be willing to fork over that kind of money for a battery? I also >take it that you think that consumers should simply buy what's sold to >them, and not complain? If the answer to the above two questions is >yes, I would have to conclude that you have more money than you know >what to do with, and that you are that marketeers dream - the perfect >consumer. You swallow what you're fed, pay up and shut up. > >Frankly I hope the majority of the Western World have more self-respect >than you seem to exhibit. If not, it would be fair to characterize us >as a population of automatons - programmed to hand over dollars and >ingest whatever form of excrement that manufacturers want to hand us. > >Rob Yale > > >On Dec 22, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Chris Butler wrote: > >> No, the guy was just too lazy to buy a new battery and replace it >> himself, so he whined and whined about it until he got his way. >> >> --- >> Plate of shrimp >> >> >> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:19:33 >> Murray McDowall wrote: >> >dfusion2000@... wrote: >> > >> >>Yeah, it sucks to know the battery will crap out. But Apple will >> >>fix it for free if it happens in a year or you can buy an extended >> >>warranty. Honestly though, I think after a few years most people >> >>will buy a new one, like getting a new cell phone. Their becoming >> >>commodity (cell phones AND mp3 players). >> > >> >The point of the article in the link was that Apple originally did not >> >offer replacement batteries. The guy at the centre of the story was >> amazed >> >and disgusted that they just wanted him to junk the unit and buy >> another. >> >He and his brother then applied a little pressure through the >> multimedia >> >dramatisation they created and, lo and behold, Apple came up with a >> change >> >in policy. NOW they do offer a battery replacement scheme. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-ot/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > logic-ot-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus

"Where do [I] get off saying shit like that"? It's a function of living in a free country I'm afraid. Everything you're saying is fine, with one exception; when you go out of your way and find your own solution to the problem (that was created by Apple) you release Apple from having to be accountable to you. On one hand, I suppose you could say that a cottage industry that provides inexpensive batteries to Apple's cast-off customers (like you) was able to form out of Apple's arrogant policy. On the other hand, you could say that it only encourages Apple's irresponsible behavior. You say that you expect corporations to screw consumers, and so you prepare yourself for the worst by being resourceful. On the other hand, the authors of the video found the better solution: through their ingenious activism, they embarrassed a large corporation into changing their policy. I suppose there will always be those, like you, who are willing to walk away when big business gets pushy, and luckily there will also be those like the video makers who refuse to take it up the ass. Rob Yale P.S. Reread my last paragraph carefully. If you do so, you'll notice that no conclusions were drawn. I merely expressed my hope that you aren't the "average consumer". On Dec 23, 2003, at 12:04 AM, Chris Butler wrote: > Where the hell do you get off saying shit like that, without doing > your research - EXACTLY like the guy who made the video? > > Of course charging $250 to replace a battery is ridiculous.  But, if > you bother to look around for about 10 seconds, you'll find you can > buy a battery for $50 from ipodbattery.com, and it's a matter of > minutes to replace it in the old style ipods. > > So far from having more money than I know what to do with, or > swallowing what companies give me, I take the time to look a little > deeper into what I own and what is going on, and doing enough research > to be truly informed.  I don't expect any corporation to do anything > BUT screw the consumer, so I take steps to ensure that when it > happens, I'll be ready.  It's not that hard, unless you have too much > 'self-respect' to learn a thing or two on your own, I guess. > > Chris > > P.S. Keep on drawing conclusions about me and all of Western > Civilization based on a post to a mailing list, it makes you look so > very intelligent. > --- > Plate of shrimp > > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:37:29  > Rob Yale wrote: > >He was told that the battery would cost $250US.  So as I understand > it, > >you'd be willing to fork over that kind of money for a battery?  I > also > >take it that you think that consumers should simply buy what's sold to > >them, and not complain?  If the answer to the above two questions is > >yes, I would have to conclude that you have more money than you know > >what to do with, and that you are that marketeers dream - the perfect > >consumer.  You swallow what you're fed, pay up and shut up. > > > >Frankly I hope the majority of the Western World have more > self-respect > >than you seem to exhibit.  If not, it would be fair to characterize us > >as a population of automatons - programmed to hand over dollars and > >ingest whatever form of excrement that manufacturers want to hand us. > > > >Rob Yale > > > > > >On Dec 22, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Chris Butler wrote: > > > >> No, the guy was just too lazy to buy a new battery and replace it > >> himself, so he whined and whined about it until he got his way. > >> > >> --- > >> Plate of shrimp > >> > >> > >> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:19:33 > >> Murray McDowall wrote: > >> >dfusion2000@... wrote: > >> > > >> >>Yeah, it sucks to know the battery will crap out.  But Apple will > >> >>fix it for free if it happens in a year or you can buy an extended > >> >>warranty.  Honestly though, I think after a few years most people > >> >>will buy a new one, like getting a new cell phone.  Their becoming > >> >>commodity (cell phones AND mp3 players). > >> > > >> >The point of the article in the link was that Apple originally did > not > >> >offer  replacement batteries. The guy at the centre of the story > was > >> amazed > >> >and disgusted that they just wanted him to junk the unit and buy > >> another. > >> >He and his brother then applied a little pressure through the > >> multimedia > >> >dramatisation they created and,  lo and behold, Apple came up with > a > >> change > >> >in policy. NOW they do offer a battery replacement scheme. > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-ot/ > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > logic-ot-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today --http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > > > Yahoo! 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Flames aside, what's so damn special about an iPod as compared to other MP3 personal players? Is it some kine status symbol or technically superior? Bsheck, Mesheck, Abednigo! Nuclear Families Do Glow In The Dark! Greenville, NC // bobsheck@... http://home.earthlink.net/~bobsheck/