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From: "antcinq" <AntCinq@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 at 7:30:28 PM
Subject: [OT] Simple recording software recommendation
Message #5226
I am a long time Logic Audio user (started on PC ver 2.0 and switched to Mac summer 2002) using 5.5.1 now. My long time writing parter (25 years!!!) is moving to the "other side" of Los Angeles. He has a G3 - and a limited bugdet. What we are thinking about is getting a simple audio recording software program on his machine so I can email files to him (mp3), he can download and insert onto his machine and record his vocal tracks. Once he's done, he would email me the file (a wav or aiff file) and I would insert it back into Logic and finish the tune - or at least get a decent recording of the tune (we typically have other singers finish the tunes. He doesn't have the budget for Logic Audio. I know he'll need a digital interface so he can plug a mic into the computer. Is there a simple digital audio program for the Mac (OS9) that this list can reccomend? Thanks in advance antcinq@...
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From: itsplayed <itsplayed@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 at 11:50:50 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] [OT] Simple recording software recommendation
Message #5227
This is a reply to #5226.
Is there > a simple digital audio program for the Mac (OS9) > that this list can > reccomend? > > Thanks in advance > > antcinq@... > > You may want to check out the freeware and shareware programs available on www.downloads.com. Programs such as Pro Tools Free are on that site. -Steve > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
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From: "Oblivian | Bacteria AS" <oblivian@...>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 at 1:14:39 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] re: [OT] Premiere for FCP
Message #5228
This is a reply to #5224.
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:19 AM, <mercutio> wrote: > As for the Emagic-Apple alliance.... I keep using Logic until someone > else blows me away - just like I used Performer until Notator blew me > away on a "marginal" platform (Atari). In other words, a few plugs are > not going to make me switch to a)Cubase and b) PC. Why on earth should > it? No of course not, at least not for the moment. Today, there's no reason to make any considerations either way, other than OS9 -> OSX perhaps. I am on PC and is still using Logic, but I have bought Cubase SX too. And even though I haven't spent that many hours with Cubase yet, I must say the audio part in SX feels "better" than in Logic. More solid. Still there's obvious things SX lacks wich is so basic in Logic. Logic also solves some audio, especially the mixer integration more elegant than Cubase. But, ultimately I think I'll go Cubase sometime in the future, when it has better MIDI support and Logic for PC is outdated. One thing I don't quite understand though; is the coming VST3 and AU conquerent systems or wont VST3 ever be released for OSX? > btw - if you think that MOTU is the creme of hosts... please think RME > :-) Hehe! No I don't concider MOTU creme of anything. My experience with MOTU is rather bad. Poor drivers and terrible or non-existing support. I have sent emails to MOTU which I think should qualify for the ho ho hotel. ;-)
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From: "Julian Vidal" <poisa@...>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 at 4:12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Simple recording software recommendation
Message #5229
This is a reply to #5227.
> Is there > a simple digital audio program for the Mac (OS9) > that this list can > reccomend? Yeah, ProTools sounds like a decen solution for your case. If you want to upgrade a little bit and have more than the 8 tracks allowed by PT Free, you can find a used Audio Media III card on eBay (maybe $50), and get ProTools LE ($50). That should give you 24 tracks. There. 24 tracks for under $100 :)
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From: roman pirie <romanp@...>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 at 7:17:56 PM
Subject: OT: Anyone been to a redbullmusic conference, the big ones?
Message #5230
I applied for the Cape Town conference and am excited by the possibility of being flown to South Africa to learn from top producers, maad! Anyone been to one? Adrian Sherwood was there last year and Mad Lib, Babu, Cut Chemist etc etc. Wow!
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From: "abekita2003" <abekita@...>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 at 6:52:34 AM
Subject: OT-quantity of tracks
Message #5231
Hi people, does anybody know how many tracks the Logic can record simultaneously assuming I have right cards. TIA
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From: Dennis Gunn <dennis@...>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 at 12:25:25 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] OT-quantity of tracks
Message #5232
This is a reply to #5231.
>Hi people, does anybody know how many tracks the Logic can >record simultaneously assuming I have right cards. TIA Why is this OT? Anyway I don't think there is any limit. It is just as many as your hardware can support AFAIK.
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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 at 7:46:40 AM
Subject: One Exra CPU...
Message #5233
Hi all, you might enjoy this: I have a song right now that maxes out the CPU to the full extent (without overloading, I got it just right...:-). So I thought, alright, let's look at the process viewer to see what that looks like memory-wise and just out of curiosity (I'm no expert in these things, just curious). Now the process viewer tells me that Logic is using 140 to 160 percent of my CPU. Without being a fully educated mathematician I can see that this is really well calculated. Does that mean someone came in here while I was gone and installed another 533 Mhz Chip in my machine? If so, I would like to stay subscribed to that service and I will also leave the house a bit more often so those little helpers have more time to get to what they do.... :-) Anyway, just a bit funny... :-) at least to someone fiddling with pixels and sounds all day... Cheers Hans
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From: Adrian Gill <adrian@...>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 at 8:53:26 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] One Exra CPU...
Message #5234
This is a reply to #5233.
Yeah, here, the CPU monitor in XP's Task Manager often tells a very different story to that of Logic's - until I discovered this, I didn't understand why I got overload warnings when Logic's performance meter was showing only 25%. There's a whole bunch of CPU hits and spikes that Logic seems to not register. Best to not rely on Emagic's performance meter alone. ___ Ade
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From: "HKC" <hkc@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 at 2:44:28 PM
Subject: Fw: 9652 and OSX
Message #5235
Does this combo work or is it time to part ways. I haven´t got a single complaint about the card on Windows but I will crossgrade to a Mac G5 withinthe next 3-6 months and I am starting to prepare for the it. Of course there´s also the PCI-X issue but only time will tell on that one. Henrik Krogh henrikkrogh@...
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From: "Mark Cahill" <music@...>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 at 5:21:55 AM
Subject: Fw: 9652 and OSX
Message #5236
Henrikkrogh wrote: >Does this combo work or is it time to part ways. I haven´t got a single complaint about the card on Windows but I will >crossgrade to a Mac G5 within the next 3-6 months and I am starting to prepare for the it. Of course there´s also the >PCI-X issue but only time will tell on that one. henrikkrogh@... Well, there have been reports of issues with RME products and OSX. I suggest you do two things: Wait a while after the G5 comes out and see if any reports (good or bad) come out. Check the RME forum for any information - maybe Matthias Carstens will answer any question you might have there. At the moment, because there are no G5's out there, it is kind of difficult to know what issues there might be ;-) Kind regards Mark Cahill
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From: "jersey1221" <jersey1221@...>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 at 10:11:49 AM
Subject: logic 5 audio enviroment????????????????????help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message #5237
Can anyone please help me out with this? I have know idea how to set up or even get the triton(first triton,just called the triton)sound module into,or working in the enviroment. Can someone PLEASE either tell me what should be in each enviroment,and how to cable it , or just e-mail me some pictures as to how it should look like.It would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!! (confused logic user)
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From: "ualbert99" <ualbert99@...>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 at 1:29:14 AM
Subject: fs: pre-loved digi001
Message #5238
just got a ULN-2 for the firewire didn't need the ins and outs or the midi perfect cosmetic and working condition all original documentation and software BUT - no original packaging, no rack ears, some writing in the quickstart manual $700 CND ($500 US) + shipping i've seen it on ebay for >$600 US i'm in Toronto Albert
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From: "jacomone2000" <jacomone@...>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 at 11:24:45 AM
Subject: not enougth memory
Message #5239
hallo everyone, sorry for my english but i am italian. the question is: when i want to merge some files in an audio track logic don start merging and send me this message: small memory (errore code 158 or 138 sorry but i don.t understand wery well the number). I have 1Ghz of memory Ram333, win 2k , amd 24oo, asus a7v333, and audiowerk8 soundcard. I use vst instruments like stylus and more. Please help me
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From: Jeremy Martin <jeremy@...>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 at 6:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] logic 5 audio enviroment????????????????????help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message #5240
This is a reply to #5237.
Hello jersey1221, Friday, August 1, 2003, 10:11:49 AM, you wrote: j> Can anyone please help me out with this? I have know idea how to set j> up or even get the triton(first triton,just called the triton)sound j> module into,or working in the enviroment. Can someone PLEASE either j> tell me what should be in each enviroment,and how to cable it , or j> just e-mail me some pictures as to how it should look like.It would j> be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!! Try sending your question to our main Logic group, logic-users@yahoogroups.com if you still need help -- this Logic-OT list is for off topic messages, and your question isn't off topic at all. -- Best regards, Jeremy mailto:jeremy@...
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From: Jeremy Martin <jeremy@...>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 at 6:25:32 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] not enougth memory
Message #5241
This is a reply to #5239.
Hello jacomone2000, Tuesday, August 5, 2003, 11:24:45 AM, you wrote: j> hallo everyone, sorry for my english but i am italian. j> the question is: j> when i want to merge some files in an audio track logic don start j> merging and send me this message: small memory (errore code 158 or 138 j> sorry but i don.t understand wery well the number). j> I have 1Ghz of memory Ram333, win 2k , amd 24oo, asus a7v333, and j> audiowerk8 soundcard. I use vst instruments like stylus and more. j> Please help me  Try sending your question to our main Logic group, logic-users@yahoogroups.com if you still need help -- this Logic-OT list is for off topic messages, and your question isn't off topic at all. -- Best regards, Jeremy mailto:jeremy@...
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From: Matt McKenzie-Smith <mattrixx@...>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 at 5:43:08 AM
Subject: ZAP for OSX
Message #5242
Not sure if this has ever been mentioned, but I still use Zap for backing up in OS9 from time to time and was wondering if it was worth putting my hand up to see if we couldn't get a quick recode for OSX. It would also be cool if it could take care of 32bit freeze files, which ofcourse, have a lot of silent space and would benefit from the Zap treatment. [you would expect high pack rates indeed and then when reloading a job, you wouldn't need to refreeze all those gutsy tracks. Any thoughts folks? Matt _________________________________________ Matt McKenzie-Smith PO Box 10395 Adelaide 5000 South Australia +61416 197 883
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From: "rbender2002" <rodney.bender@...>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 at 7:10:13 PM
Subject: what do I NEED to record w/Logic
Message #5243
I am a songwriter expecting my new G5 to arrive shortly (hope hope). Looking into Logic to do home-recording of acoustic instruments. What do I need additionally? I already have a mixer and analog tape recorder. Will I still need these or will I record and mix on Logic? Other hardware/software interface? PCI card? I know this seems very basic, but I am basically confused by all the product references, etc I see on the LUG. Please help. Thanks in advance.
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From: Murray McDowall <murraymc@...>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 at 11:29:13 PM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] what do I NEED to record w/Logic
Message #5244
This is a reply to #5243.
"rbender2002" <rodney.bender@...> wrote: >I am a songwriter expecting my new G5 to arrive shortly (hope hope). > >Looking into Logic to do home-recording of acoustic instruments. > >What do I need additionally? I already have a mixer and analog tape >recorder. Will I still need these or will I record and mix on >Logic? Other hardware/software interface? PCI card? If you want audio quality above that offered by the built in audio in your Mac you will need to find an audio interface that will be compatible with the as yet unreleased G5 -- this could be PCI (PCI-X even) , Firewire or USB. I would definitely hold off on purchasing an interface until it is clear what is and is not compatible with the new G5 which, going by recent reports, will not support quite a number PCI based cards (eg Digidesign's Digi 001, M-Audio Delta series) due to incompatible PCI specs (the gist is simply that G5 Mac PCI slots are 3.3 Volt only and all 5 Volt PCI cards are not compatible) . Some audio interface makers of good repute are RME, MOTU and Digidesign. . http://www.motu.com/ http://www.rme-audio.de/english/index.htm http://www.digidesign.com/ RME's recent Hammerfall DSP series are 3.3 Volt and if your budget will cover them might be worth looking into. MOTU interfaces compatible with the G5s will no doubt be available soon enough. The signal chain for decent quality recording acoustic instruments into Logic is usually something like this: Microphone --> Mixer --> Audio interface inputs OR Microphone --> mic preamp --> [external mixer -->] audio interface inputs. If you have been plugging a microphone directly into your mixer it may have adequate microphone preamps but more expensive outboard pre's will easily beat most chip based mic pre's you will find in mixers like the Behringer and Mackie products. If you are buying Logic Platinum you should get a pretty comprehensive set of audio processing tools (reverb, delay, dynamics plugins etc) -- not the very best available but they should get you started. Regards, Murray
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From: altonate@...
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 at 9:19:57 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] what do I NEED to record w/Logic
Message #5245
First you'll need an audio card or interface. Personally i'd highly recommend investing in a MOTU 828 or 828 mkii (£800ish - I've found outboard gear to be more reliable and far less noisy than putting all the pressure on my mac). This gives you 8 inputs/outputs, two of which have phantom power and mic preamps. You can then record a live mix straight into logic just as you would a digital 8 track (if possible you should partition your hard drive or install a second hard drive to store audio files but this isn't too important). As long as you don't mind mixing in software this way you wouldn't need a mixing desk. If you're partial to hardware like myself, digital mixers are getting cheaper that are designed to work with programs like logic (some have built in audio interfaces too but I think they're still expensive), I invested in Logic control six months ago and find it's made me much faster and more productive when working with logic 6. Of course you could still use your mixing desk if you wanted by connect it's outputs to the MOTU's inputs giving you the benefits of both worlds! If you still want to use the analog tape recorder (i.e if you're feeling nostalgic! ;) ) and it has smpte you could sync it with logic but this kind of defeats the object..
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From: YAVUZ AKYAZICI <yavuz1@...>
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 at 10:52:40 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] what do I NEED to record w/Logic
Message #5246
This is a reply to #5243.
on 8/7/03 8:10 PM, rbender2002 at rodney.bender@... wrote: What do I need additionally? I already have a mixer and analog tape recorder. Will I still need these or will I record and mix on Logic? Other hardware/software interface? PCI card? Hi, I have MOTU 896 and it has built-in Mike Pres. I am happu with it. Check out some of the recordings that I made with it here; http:yavuz.dhs.org Then got music section and listen to "Halay" and "Lost in the City". They are recorded straight into Logic thru MOTU 896. Check out MOTU 896 here; http://www.motu.com/english/motuaudio/896/body.html Good Luck. ___________________ Yavuz AKYAZICI Guitar Player http://yavuz.dhs.org ____________________ Logic Setup ____________________ Powerbook G4 1Ghz, 1G RAM MOTU 896 Logic Control MIDIMAN USB 2X2 Logic Platinum EXS24 EVB3 EVP88 EVD6 Kontakt Sample Tank XL PSP 84 & 42 CDXtracxt
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From: "photoemergency" <photoemergency@...>
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 at 11:58:48 AM
Subject: Getting Started
Message #5247
I'm a singer/songwriter. I work with studios to write songs. I don't play instruments much, but I can dibble dabble on piano to hear sounds. So far, how I work is to have the producers give me some sort of base tracks on a CD and writing melody and lyrics to that and then record when I get back into the studio. That has worked so far. But it becomes cumbersome when I want to deviate from the base track. I want the freedom to arrange things myself as I am working out the melody and lyrics. I think Logic can be the solution. I am not looking to have a home studio. All I need is enough so I can create my own base track and at some point in the future, I would want to be able to record voice as well. So, it's pretty basic. I know this is very basic, but it would allow me to be a much freer artist. Can people tell me what exactly do I need equipment-wise to do all this? Thanks!
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From: "CHRIS0102" <chris0102@...>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 at 8:57:09 PM
Subject: Can't add tracks to logic!!! Please Help
Message #5248
I know this should be an easy question and for the ones that know the logic 5.5 inside out it is but not for me. I initialy set up logic to have maximum audio channels of 32. Now I need to add more and I can't. What I mean by that is that when I "Creat Track with New Instrument" I get a new track but I do not have mixer channel for it. It shares the number with other existing track (i.e. audio 32) and I have no clue how to add it. Can someone please help? As I said I'm using logic 5.5. thx a lot ! chris
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 at 12:40:28 AM
Subject: Re: [L-OT] Can't add tracks to logic!!! Please Help
Message #5249
This is a reply to #5248.
On a fine day, 12-08-2003, CHRIS0102 wrote: >I know this should be an easy question and for the ones that know the >logic 5.5 inside out it is but not for me. I initialy set up logic to >have maximum audio channels of 32. Now I need to add more and I >can't. What I mean by that is that when I "Creat Track with New >Instrument" I get a new track but I do not have mixer channel for it. >It shares the number with other existing track (i.e. audio 32) and I >have no clue how to add it. Can someone please help? As I said I'm >using logic 5.5. Select one of the mixer's channel strips, e.g.number 32, and copy/paste it (make sure View > Lock Positions is not checked, so you can drag the new copy into its proper place). With the fresh copy selected, set its 'Cha' parameter (left side of window) to e.g. 'Track 33'. Finally assign your 33rd track to this new object. Done. BTW, I don't understand why you post this to the L-OT list, as it's not off-topic at all and thus could have been sent to the LUG. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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From: roman pirie <romanp@...>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 at 6:22:23 PM
Subject: How much does a Logic control go for second hand on ebay(approx)?
Message #5250
Peace.
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