--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy Martin" <jeremy@l...> wrote: > http://gizmodo.net/archives/001997.php > > Supposedly Steve Jobs is thinking about maybe splitting > Apple up into separate software / hardware companies. Interesting idea ... ... the hardware division could then do a proper high-powered AMD- based machine in a G4 case, with WinXP drivers, so that you could stick a second drive in and dual-boot between OSX and WinXP. That'd be mighty attractive. Makes it into a more flexible, more capable, lower-risk investment. And the hardware company could also concentrate on selling the iPod more aggressively to PC owners without losing sleep over whether they were being unloyal by pushing it at PC owners. At the moment, iPod marketing seems to be sending out mixed messages as to whether PC owners are being embraced or not. And they could flog their nice big flat monitors to people who don't own Macs. ... and the software division would be free to consider releasing an "intel/AMD" version of OSX, with drivers for a limited range of popular hardware (Apple have reputedly been sneakily running an "Intel OSX" development programme in parallel with the normal Motorola releases version, to keep their future hardware options open). So remining remaining WinLogic users (who haven't switched to a mac, or defected to Steinberg) could then go out and buy OSX and the logic6 upgrade for our existing machines without having to commit to a particular manufacturer's premium-priced product line. OK, so maybe some of us might still have to buy more up-to-date motherboards or ditch unsupported graphics cards and stuff, but PC owners are used to piecemeal upgrades, and its a hell of a lot cheaper than replacing our desktop/laptop clusters with G4s and powerbooks. The people who originally liked logic because it had the flexibility and safety and multiple options that go with being cross-platform, and were ****ed off when it seemed to be downgraded into a niche product for G4/powerbook owners that could only run on Apple hardware could relax again. Of course, "interesting" ideas have a habit of not happening ... and sometimes they are floated as an exercise to scare people inside a company out of a safe corporate mindset and get them thinking about what customers really want rather than what suits internal company politics. Which can also be a good thing.

At 08:45 AM 6/10/2003 +0000, you wrote: >[Note from admin: as with all Off Topic messages, please send your reply >privately and/or to Logic-OT@yahoogroups.com, thanks] > >Hi there >just bought for a great price a Sony C800G, it is missing the Power Supply, a >new one cost around a thousand dollars!!! Now I found someone that could >built it for a lot cheaper but needs the schematics, I looked everywhere >on the >net and the guy even called Sony but no luck so far, obviously Sony it is >interested in selling their own and they don't want to help... >If anyone out there has one I would buy it right now for a decent price or if >anyone has the schematics for the power supply AC-MC800G I would greatly >appreaciate it! > >Sage Just a word of warning. If the power supply is missing, chances are it is stolen. Colin Miller

hi. i'm trying to slave acid 4 (pc) to logic 4.7.3 (mac)...unfortunately acid doesnt really like being a slave. is there anyone who has tried this and has figured out how to get this to work? mtc doesnt seem to ever be in sync and acid drifts. any help on this matter is greatly appreciated.

Hi, Does anyone know of a good site or book to turn to for ideas on lead vocal recording/sweetening. I know that's a pretty vague request, but I have to believe that there somebody has had some success and shared their set up as a starting point that one could apply to achieve, say, a Coldplay-like sound? Before I get blasted off the forum for being so naive, what I mean is; there must be some tried and proven production combinations of delay, reverb, doubling, shifting and exciting that could get a close-miked male vocal into the Coldplay ballpark? Something I could dial into the gear that I have, which, although not Apogee and Neve, is still pretty damn good, and should be able to get close. Or is it having a $15k Lexicon that really DOES make the difference. I refuse to believe it. If someone asked me how they could take a head and shoulders portrait and enhance it in Photoshop to make it look like a gallery shot, I could point them in approximately the right direction (cos that's what I do). I'm looking for the vocal recording equivalent... Open to all pointers. Thanks. Set up with: Logic 6.1/OSX Delta 66 card Rode NTK mic Focusrite VoiceMaster Pro PreAmp/Optical Compressor/EQ

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Colin Miller <snoopy@m...> wrote: > At 08:45 AM 6/10/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >[Note from admin: as with all Off Topic messages, please send your reply > >privately and/or to Logic-OT@yahoogroups.com, thanks] > > > >Hi there > >just bought for a great price a Sony C800G, it is missing the Power Supply, a > >new one cost around a thousand dollars!!! Now I found someone that could > >built it for a lot cheaper but needs the schematics, I looked everywhere > >on the > >net and the guy even called Sony but no luck so far, obviously Sony it is > >interested in selling their own and they don't want to help... > >If anyone out there has one I would buy it right now for a decent price or if > >anyone has the schematics for the power supply AC-MC800G I would greatly > >appreaciate it! > > > >Sage > > Just a word of warning. If the power supply is missing, chances are it is > stolen. > > Colin Miller Thanks for your tip Colin, I believe in karma and this is not a stolen item, I know the guy that sold it to me and actually it is the reverse, the PowerSupply got stolen! So my request is still out there for someone that might have usefull info on how to get a hold on THE SCHEMATICS of the mic or if anyone (altought I know this would be like finding a needle in the desert) has the actual PS. Thanks Sage

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Stephenson" <pauls@m...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I was using the NI Kontakt sampler, but after moving over to 6.1 I am > using the EXS24 until the OSX version of Kontakt is released, and maybe > longer depending on how the EXS works out. > > I used to have some instruments for the EXS24 like EXS909 or something > similar. I can't find the CD that these instruments came on, and I was > wondering if someone could tell me if this was on the original EXS24 CD > that I sent back when upgrading to version 5 or if it is on a different > CD. If they were on a different CD, it would be very helpful for me to > know what that CD looks like. I can't find it, but I may just not be > looking for the right thing. > > If anyone knows of a website or another location to get these > instruments, I would appreciate it. > > Thanks, > > pfokus I believe that those ones were in a sepaarate CD that was sent to me after after I had bought the original Exs24, in fact I believe thay came in the mail as a bonus some time later... I might have the 909 and some more, let me know if you still need it Sage

funny thing: I just tried to do a quick check on the emagic site to see if there was any change on the official situation on "Logic Control" ... and the site isn't there! Or at least it might still be out there somewhere, but "www.emagic.de" doesn't seem to be recognised (@ ~20:30 GMT, 13 June). Whois.com has a pointer to a separate database for European name registrations, and that couldn't seem to find a listing for "www.emagic.de" , either. Technical difficulties? site hack? lapsed registration fees? Hmm ... Trying not to be _too_ paranoid, here ... [Erk]

They are probibly just doing some site updates, or something broke. On 6/13/03 3:38 PM, "Eric Baird" <eric_baird@...> wrote: > funny thing: I just tried to do a quick check on the emagic site to > see if there was any change on the official situation on "Logic > Control" ... and the site isn't there! > > Or at least it might still be out there somewhere, > but "www.emagic.de" doesn't seem to be recognised > (@ ~20:30 GMT, 13 June). > > Whois.com has a pointer to a separate database for European name > registrations, and that couldn't seem to find a listing > for "www.emagic.de" , either. > > Technical difficulties? site hack? lapsed registration fees? > Hmm ... Trying not to be _too_ paranoid, here ... > > [Erk] > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.3170658.4537139.1261774/D=egroupweb/S0500733 4 > :HM/A64416/R=0/SIGti81skc/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso`164797& > partid170658> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; .

>> Whois.com has a pointer to a separate database for European name >> registrations, and that couldn't seem to find a listing >> for "www.emagic.de" , either. >> >> Technical difficulties? site hack? lapsed registration fees? >> Hmm ... Trying not to be _too_ paranoid, here ... I zink zere was one little bill Herr Jünge forgot to pay.

There info shows up on http://www.register.com On 6/13/03 4:52 PM, "Oblivian | Bacteria AS" <oblivian@...> wrote: >>> Whois.com has a pointer to a separate database for European name >>> registrations, and that couldn't seem to find a listing >>> for "www.emagic.de" , either. >>> >>> Technical difficulties? site hack? lapsed registration fees? >>> Hmm ... Trying not to be _too_ paranoid, here ... > > I zink zere was one little bill Herr Jünge forgot to pay. > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

I hope you excuse my shameless-topagressive selfpromotion, but here´s a 4 minute-mp3-mix of our cd. I just combined little snippets of the 8 songs ... The mixing isn´t the best as i did it in some minutes, but you at least get the impression. http://we-are-billions.com/putte/zeugs/PutteUNDEdgar_CD_4minMix.mp3 expect full energy trash ....hrhr thanks! putte

Hi folks, I'm looking for people who can tell me about their experience with an EMI 6|2m on Windows and OSX. Is it reliable or does it suck all the time? TIA, Yoonchi.

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Urs Heckmann <urs@u...> wrote: > > Yes. It is obvious that the 970 was specificially designed > for Apple. Yep > None of IBMs own products nor any other market is known to utilize > Altivec. Furthermore, it's obviously designed with "HyperTransport" > in mind, a technology that Apple has been working on for over two > years now (together with AMD btw). BTW, the AMD 64-bit chip is also supposed to have implemented hyper- transport, arguably in a more useful form to us music people than the IBM chip (I think AMD's chip can use hyper-transport to connect the processor to main memory, while the IBM one uses it to connect the processor to graphics hardware instead, and is probably designed more for the graphics/video community. or something. ) But the altivec commands are significant, yes. > here's the countdown to Mr. Jobs' Keynote: > http://www.3cmug.co.uk/countdown.html [Re: inabilities/difficulties to auto-port software between different processor designs under single OS. ] OK, if you say so. I try not to keep up with OS internals stuff any more, I get too wound up about how pathetically little progress these guys make. <grrr>

>> Gert van Santen wrote: >> >>> I have it here... somewhere. Can't find it... Well, anyhow, I think a >>> "huge" drumsound is basically a matter of good samples / a good >>> recording, good EQ, and heavy compression with a good machine / >>> plugin. Results may vary a lot with the tools / sounds used, so it is >>> almost impossible to tell you where to start, but I'll try. >>> >>> Do not use drums from a synth (module), always samples from a good >>> library. >> >> Or better yet: rent a good studio and a good drummer and record real >> drums. >> Why do so many people mainly talk about samples and libraries? >> The real thing is the real thing. > > I agree: well recorded drums with a good drummer, some room mics & a > couple of good analog comps to compress the sh** out of it ;-)) this > will probably save you so much time, compared to trying to program, > find the right sounds, etc I've been listening to "Ils - Soul Trader", out on Marine Parade. Check it - good production, really nice breaks, not too "hard". I think that he uses a real drummer on many songs, but sometimes the original sound is replaced by samples. Can anyone confirm this?

I was wondering about buying an electronic drum-kit for mye studio. I am not a drummer myself, but I thought it might be alot more fluent to use an e-kit to program all the beats than by "keyboard". Can anyone tip me in which direction I should go. I mean, I know about Rolands kits, but are there other, maybe better ones or is Roland kits the way to go? And how do they sound? Are they as good as "they" say? I mean, of course it's not the real-ting, but then again what is. ;-) All the best,

> I was wondering about buying an electronic drum-kit for mye > studio. I am not a drummer myself, but I thought it might be > alot more fluent to use an e-kit to program all the beats > than by "keyboard". > > Can anyone tip me in which direction I should go. I mean, I > know about Rolands kits, but are there other, maybe better > ones or is Roland kits the way to go? > > And how do they sound? Are they as good as "they" say? I > mean, of course it's not the real-ting, but then again what is. ;-) The Roland V-Drums are awesome. Really. I've heard people playing convincing trio jazz type stuff on them. But they are $$$pricey$$$. I just got rid of my DrumKat and KicKat because I was always able to get better (although not quicker) results by programing drums with the mouse. I guess it depends on how good a drummer you are and what kind of music you do. -smeet

>> I was wondering about buying an electronic drum-kit for mye >> studio. I am not a drummer myself, but I thought it might be >> alot more fluent to use an e-kit to program all the beats >> than by "keyboard". >> >> Can anyone tip me in which direction I should go. I mean, I >> know about Rolands kits, but are there other, maybe better >> ones or is Roland kits the way to go? >> >> And how do they sound? Are they as good as "they" say? I >> mean, of course it's not the real-ting, but then again what is. ;-) On Friday, June 20, 2003 6:13 PM, <Sumit Das> wrote: > The Roland V-Drums are awesome. Really. I've heard people > playing convincing trio jazz type stuff on them. But they > are $$$pricey$$$. > > I just got rid of my DrumKat and KicKat because I was > always able to get better (although not quicker) results > by programing drums with the mouse. I guess it depends > on how good a drummer you are and what kind of music > you do. OK, sounds good! I am thinking about the TD-8K set, which I think is a part of the V-drum line. The price over here is about $4000,- The TD-10 set is twice the price though... I hope it is easier to play the drums (or rather have a drummer play the beats) than to program by hand with the mouse/keyboard. I find it to be quite time consuming and perhaps not what I enjoy the most by making music. It is mainly for pop/rock.

> > I just got rid of my DrumKat and KicKat because I was > > always able to get better (although not quicker) results > > by programing drums with the mouse. I guess it depends > > on how good a drummer you are and what kind of music > > you do. > > I hope it is easier to play the drums (or rather have a > drummer play the > beats) than to program by hand with the mouse/keyboard. I > find it to be > quite time consuming and perhaps not what I enjoy the most by > making music. > > It is mainly for pop/rock. If you have access to good drummers, I think that is a good way, especially if you want it to sound human. My playing sounded a little _too_ human. :) Also I do a lot of very drum-intensive electronic stuff, and since I'm no Dave Weckl, I can't pull off physically what I hear in my head, even at half-tempo. One thing you might think about is using real miked-up hihat and cymbals, I think that would really make the whole set sound more alive (and feel better too I guess). -smeet

Ellow! Can I use EXSmkII with battery samples? I'm looking for good brushes for jazz and I've heard there are good battery samples "battery studio drums 2"... Thanx a lot. Bye. ninja

> If you have access to good drummers, I think that is a good > way, especially if you want it to sound human. My playing > sounded a little _too_ human. :) Also I do a lot of very > drum-intensive electronic stuff, and since I'm no Dave Weckl, > I can't pull off physically what I hear in my head, even > at half-tempo. Hehe, I guess that goes for me too. Fortunately I have access to good drummers though. > One thing you might think about is using real miked-up hihat > and cymbals, I think that would really make the whole set > sound more alive (and feel better too I guess). > > -smeet Just came from the store with a brand new V-drums DT-8K! I'm putting it together now, but I'm having a hard time figuring it out. What a puzzle!! http://www.stolavmusikk.no/trade/productprint/17/12/

phunkee poosheck wrote: >Can I use EXSmkII with battery samples? > Only if you convert the files from Battery format to EXS or compatible. There's always http://www.*chickensys*.com/translator Members of the EXS User Group: exs-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com - might have suggestions for less expensive workarounds (?) ___ Ade

> There's always http://www.*chickensys*.com/translator Er sorry, that's http://www.chickensys.com/translator (...damn Mozilla beta)

>Er sorry, that's http://www.chickensys.com/translator > Oh Gawd, I just checked their site and apparently Battery to EXS conversion is still in development. (I'll get my coat)

Coool. Let'd do it. We'll talk on the phone at the start of the week, and get you what you need. Why does success have suck in it? All the best, Peter B. ----- Original Message ----- From: <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com> To: <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:04 AM Subject: [L-OT] Digest Number 856 > > There are 2 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Was: Re: [LUG] [GEN] production technique question > From: Federico Ciapi <federico.ciapi@...> > 2. [OT] Electronic Drums Kits > From: "Oblivian | Bacteria AS" <oblivian@...> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:11:06 +0200 > From: Federico Ciapi <federico.ciapi@...> > Subject: Was: Re: [LUG] [GEN] production technique question > > >> Gert van Santen wrote: > >> > >>> I have it here... somewhere. Can't find it... Well, anyhow, I think a > >>> "huge" drumsound is basically a matter of good samples / a good > >>> recording, good EQ, and heavy compression with a good machine / > >>> plugin. Results may vary a lot with the tools / sounds used, so it is > >>> almost impossible to tell you where to start, but I'll try. > >>> > >>> Do not use drums from a synth (module), always samples from a good > >>> library. > >> > >> Or better yet: rent a good studio and a good drummer and record real > >> drums. > >> Why do so many people mainly talk about samples and libraries? > >> The real thing is the real thing. > > > > I agree: well recorded drums with a good drummer, some room mics & a > > couple of good analog comps to compress the sh** out of it ;-)) this > > will probably save you so much time, compared to trying to program, > > find the right sounds, etc > > I've been listening to "Ils - Soul Trader", out on Marine Parade. > Check it - good production, really nice breaks, not too "hard". > > I think that he uses a real drummer on many songs, but sometimes the > original sound is replaced by samples. > Can anyone confirm this? > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:57:48 +0200 > From: "Oblivian | Bacteria AS" <oblivian@...> > Subject: [OT] Electronic Drums Kits > > I was wondering about buying an electronic drum-kit for mye studio. I am not a drummer myself, but I thought it might be alot more fluent to use an e-kit to program all the beats than by "keyboard". > > Can anyone tip me in which direction I should go. I mean, I know about Rolands kits, but are there other, maybe better ones or is Roland kits the way to go? > > And how do they sound? Are they as good as "they" say? I mean, of course it's not the real-ting, but then again what is. ;-) > > All the best, > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

I'm trying to decide which pair of headphones to buy for now... Part of the time I'll be listening to them while they are plugged into an RME HDSP9632 (http://www.rme- audio.de/english/hdsp/hdsp9632.htm ) which has a "Low impedance output (75 ohm) for headphones, stepless output level through software faders" The other part of the time I'm going to lug them to work and plug them into an old SoundBlaster Live card in my workstation... No idea what its impedance is but I'm sure it isn't pretty. I might get a portable CD player but I'm sure most of them don't have that great of sound quality either.. In any case I just want something better than cheap $20 headphones to listen to music with while at work, plus it will give me a chance to get to know the headphones better. I was thinking of getting some $200 Sennheiser HD580 headphones but I'm afraid they would be too good as they have 300 ohms of impedance. I glanced at some headphone amplifiers but nearly all of them were designed to have multiple headphone outputs and all I would really need is 1 high quality output... If I turned the volume up all the way on my computer at work, would it still be too quiet to hear through the HD580s? I assume its impedance is less than or equal to the HDSP9632's... So does anyone know any models of headphone amps with just one input and output that have a frequency response of 12-38k Hz like the HD580 does, preferably with a THD of < .1% etc? I wonder how much such a device would cost? Or do you think I should just get cheaper/other headphones for now? I.e. maybe the AudioTechnica ATHM40fs which only has 60 ohms of impedance? I just don't want to miss out on any bass. :-) Could anyone suggest any other models I might want to look at, in the retail-price-of-$270-but-really-sells-for-$200-range, that doesn't have so much impedance so I wouldn't have to worry about getting a headphone amp? Thanks! Jeremy