mikaeladle wrote: >>I would definitely get a second opinion on the health of all those >>components -- >> >> >Thanks guys, I will follow your advice. > Good idea to get a second opinion indeed. I've worked in a computer shop a long time ago. I managed to blow up some computers, but I also managed to recover lots of good components from computers that were described as "definitely completely wasted". It doesn't take much time to find out (an experienced technician can check everything out in 15 minutes max), so it's worth the small extra investment. As far as new systems, I'm not informed enough right now, so I can't help ya, sorry. Cheers, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

HI guys, I'm looking at new soundcards cos I'm going to get one in the near future. At the moment I'm budgeting about a grand ozzie .thats about five hundred u.s and about 3/-6d sterling .So far the hoontech C-port is looking good but the delta 1010lt is also looking good . I want low to no latency when playing softsynths and such ,I only need stereo in ,maybe more out plus I want spdif and a midi in/out . It seems the cards with limited in out also present higher latency[ the emagic hardware page seems to show the same cards performing better and better as you move thru the page and I'm assuming they leave the old benchmarks up when they retest on a better machine ] so if anyone has some thoughts please let me know . The multiface is out it's two grand here and thats one grand too much . I'm tempted to buy online and jump in the deep end having installed sound/video cards , ram , hard drives and cd's , floppies myself , anyone know a good online store and are regions relevant in sourcing hardware from offshore apart from the voltage issue and that aint an issue here is it . Paul "it's not easy being green" ......Kermit the frog

I think this is a good recomandation for a high end system, but IF YOU ARE ON A BUDGET you can also build up an "El-Cheapo" system as shown below, performing exeptional well at mine and my fellows home while not costing more than a handful of Euros (prices from my local dealer in Germany). Elitegroup K7S5A Motherboard (~ 60 EUR) 512 Megabytes of PC 266 DDR-RAM (~ 130 EUR) Athlon XP 1800+ (~ 135 EUR) Matrox G550 (~135 EUR) if you need decent dual display go for Matrox Harddrive IBM 40GB 7200 rpm (~92 EUR) Someone recomended: ==============Having said that good stuff as a basis of your computer: ASUS P4T-E motherboard at least 256MB RDRAM P4 (Northwood) - fastest you can afford Matrox G 450 or 550 or ATI Radeon for video RME Hammerfall DSP plus Multiface for audio and whatever you are having yourself for DVD, CD-R/ROM/RW etc... and of course one of those nice black aluminium cases.. :)

If you can find some time, please listen to "Behind The Planets" and provide me with your merciless criticism. www.mp3.com/Adream No need to slate the vocals, I know they're bad, already taking singing lessons right now, but wanted some feedback in advance, couldn't wait... Thanks in advance Gerry

I have been reading up on the FIREWIRE due to one being in the back of my G4. I understand that they both transfer data at a very high speed. But, what is the difference between USB and FIREWIRE. Is FIREWIRE faster than USB? Hope you all had a good day, if not. Tomorrow is gonna be a better day or not if the case may be. AHHH Just smile at least. :-)) Debbie

Debbie Debs wrote: >I have been reading up on the FIREWIRE due to one being in the back of my G4. >I understand that they both transfer data at a very high speed. But, what >is the difference between USB and FIREWIRE. > >Is FIREWIRE faster than USB? http://www.upgradefever.com/articles/firewire/speed_chart.htm http://www.macease.com/firewire,_usb,_and_scsi_ar.html http://www.genitech.com.au/LIBRARY/TechSupport/InfoBits/firewire_vs_usb.htm http://www.howstuffworks.com/firewire2.htm http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,24330,2406307,00.html http://computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/download_whitepaper.j sp?WHITEPAPER_ID00000b7d > Hope you all had a good day, Yes, thank you. >AHHH Just smile at least. :-)) OK. Kool Musick Keep Musick Kool

Kool Musick God! that will keep me quiet for a while. Thank you Kool. Debbie :-) x

Debbie wrote: >God! that will keep me quiet for a while. Thank you Kool. You are more than welcome. Try to learn how to learn. Said with a smile. Sincerely. Hope you receive it that way. I did not mean it any other way. Kool Musick Keep Musick Kool

Understood Kool and much appreciate it. Debbie :-)

Gerry, none of the links are working, I tried to listen to your song. J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerrit "Gerry" Straub" <gerrit.straub@...> To: <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com> Sent: 29 May 2002 09:37 Subject: [L-OT] Feedback needed > If you can find some time, please listen to > "Behind The Planets" and provide me with > your merciless criticism. > > www.mp3.com/Adream > > No need to slate the vocals, I know > they're bad, already taking singing > lessons right now, but wanted some > feedback in advance, couldn't wait... > > Thanks in advance > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

Oh dear Gerry... You did ask us to be merciless!!! Let me preface my critiscm by letting you know that I am sure my stuff suffers from the some of the same afflictions as yours. I will be posting tracks to MP3.com very soon (within the month) so you can get your own back then. Well where do I start? OK one word to sum up first "boring" To be more precise... The track lacks light and shade, in fact it lacks any definition at all. Every part of it is far too subtle, it sounds to me like you lack confidence in your ideas and can't bring yourself to explore your musical ideas strongly enough. I could go on but I don't want to appear to be relishing this. As an artist myself I can appreciate the obvious work you put into it. I hope I haven't been too harsh. Steve On 29/5/02 9:37 am, "Gerrit "Gerry" Straub" <gerrit.straub@...> wrote: > If you can find some time, please listen to > "Behind The Planets" and provide me with > your merciless criticism. > > www.mp3.com/Adream > > No need to slate the vocals, I know > they're bad, already taking singing > lessons right now, but wanted some > feedback in advance, couldn't wait... > > Thanks in advance > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Sent using the Entourage X Test Drive.

well, that was certainly merciless! personally I think the synth sounds could be harder sounding- especially lead melodies, and there is not enough harmonic movement- more chord changes, and dynamics needed. As a guitarist, the guitar part sounded weakest to me. J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Pering" <steve@...> To: <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com> Sent: 30 May 2002 11:52 Subject: Re: [L-OT] Feedback needed > Oh dear Gerry... You did ask us to be merciless!!! > > Let me preface my critiscm by letting you know that I am sure my stuff > suffers from the some of the same afflictions as yours. I will be posting > tracks to MP3.com very soon (within the month) so you can get your own back > then. > > Well where do I start? OK one word to sum up first "boring" > To be more precise... The track lacks light and shade, in fact it lacks any > definition at all. Every part of it is far too subtle, it sounds to me like > you lack confidence in your ideas and can't bring yourself to explore your > musical ideas strongly enough. I could go on but I don't want to appear to > be relishing this. As an artist myself I can appreciate the obvious work you > put into it. > > I hope I haven't been too harsh. > > Steve > > > On 29/5/02 9:37 am, "Gerrit "Gerry" Straub" <gerrit.straub@...> wrote: > > > If you can find some time, please listen to > > "Behind The Planets" and provide me with > > your merciless criticism. > > > > www.mp3.com/Adream > > > > No need to slate the vocals, I know > > they're bad, already taking singing > > lessons right now, but wanted some > > feedback in advance, couldn't wait... > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > Sent using the Entourage X Test Drive. > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

Have anyone got any experience with this motherboard? Acorp 6A815EP1. It has similar specs to Asus CUSL-2 and therefore I might go for one. Best, Mikael Adle

Stick to ASUS all emagic audio tests are done with ASUS http://atlas.emagic.de:591/FMPro?-dbÞTAILEDTESTS&-layÞtails& amp;-format=ahw/ahw_search.htm&-view Best Roland Zeegers South Africa mikaeladle wrote: > Have anyone got any experience with this motherboard? > Acorp 6A815EP1. It has similar specs to Asus CUSL-2 and therefore I > might go for one. > > Best, > Mikael Adle > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M"6014.2032696.3508022.1829184/D=egroupweb/S05 007334:HM/A00239/R=0/*http://ads.x10.com/?bHlhaG9vaG0xLmRhd22808762%3eM&qu ot;6014.2032696.3508022.1829184/D=egroupweb/S05007334:HM/A00239/R=1> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; .

--- In logic-ot@y..., Roland Zeegers <miafrica@i...> wrote: > Stick to ASUS all emagic audio tests are done with ASUS > http://atlas.emagic.de:591/FMPro?-db=DETAILEDTESTS&-lay=Details&- format=ahw/ahw_search.htm&-view > > Best > Roland Zeegers South Africa > Hi! Maybe I´ll do that. The one reason to not go for it is the 512 mb ram limit. The Acorp motherboard can take 1.5GB. Still I havent read about anyone with this Acorp 6A815EP1 motherboard. Hopefully I can reach someone that uses it. Someone? Best, Mikael Adle

(redirected from LUG to L-OT) From: "splugapass" <bobandmaria@...> Date: Fri May 31, 2002 2:19pm Subject: [LUG] Re: [OT] SE-1 (was; ES2 for bass?) --- In logic-users@y..., Sascha Kujawa <skujawa@m...> wrote: > > >The bass sound on 'Genie' is "Mr. Impact." Patch D005 on the > >TR-Rack. That's it. > > And what about the funky bass-synth on JLo's "Play"? Howabout the patch in The Beach Boys' "Good Vibrations?" Heh heh heh heh... (trails off into a half mumbled fog of speech) Bob

(redirected from LUG to L-OT) From: Matt McKenzie-Smith <mattrixx@...> Date: Fri May 31, 2002 8:07pm Subject: Re: Re: [OT] SE-1 (was; ES2 for bass?) > And what about the funky bass-synth on JLo's "Play"? That is a fatty =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Matt McKenzie-Smith PO Box 10395 Adelaide BC 5000 South Australia +618(0)82938282 +61(0)416 197 883 mattrixx@o...

Hi Steve & John, no problem for me if you've been even more merciless, that is the only way to get better, so feel free to mail me privately and tear it up completely. When you produce a song you hear it a thousand times and after a while you may like it, as you don't notice the weaknesses anymore. You guys heard it with "fresh ears" therefore I think such criticism is far more valueable than my own. I am currently reworking the complete song, so input of any kind is of big help. Go on, mail me privately, tell me it's crap, tell me I should give it up, that's okay as long as you tell me why ;-)) Cheers, Gerry > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:52:34 +0100 > From: Steve Pering <steve@...> > Subject: Re: Feedback needed > > Oh dear Gerry... You did ask us to be merciless!!! > > Let me preface my critiscm by letting you know that I am sure my stuff > suffers from the some of the same afflictions as yours. I will be posting > tracks to MP3.com very soon (within the month) so you can get your own back > then. > > Well where do I start? OK one word to sum up first "boring" > To be more precise... The track lacks light and shade, in fact it lacks any > definition at all. Every part of it is far too subtle, it sounds to me like > you lack confidence in your ideas and can't bring yourself to explore your > musical ideas strongly enough. I could go on but I don't want to appear to > be relishing this. As an artist myself I can appreciate the obvious work you > put into it. > > I hope I haven't been too harsh. > > Steve

Hm...that was just a bad sampler instument, wait until I try that "Virtual Guitarist" from hmmm well, not Emagic. Can't play guitar, was forced to learn violin as a child, never liked to play it therefore. > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:12:19 +0100 > From: "John Matthews" <Groovey@...> > Subject: Re: Feedback needed (...) > As a guitarist, the guitar part sounded weakest to me. > > J.

(off topic reply redirected from LUG to L-OT) From: Murray McDowall <murraymc@...> Date: Sun Jun 2, 2002 9:01pm Subject: Re: [OT] How do Dsp cards and pro tools differ? Eli Krantzberg <elik@c...> wrote: >> Can pro tools TDM give real time guitar effects etc whereas UAD-1 has >> prohibitive latency? >Yes. >> How does pro tools offer these advantages? >Through it's unique "time division multiplexing" technology. TDM for >short. It uses phone related technology in it's dsp architecture in >order to route data around with next to no latency. This propietary >architecture is one of the reasons why TDM is so expensive. TDM methods are just one of the ways to share a serial data pathway or a radio frequency band. Any Audio breakout box which has multiple ins and outs and a firewire connector cable is using some sort of TDM to shunt all those audio streams simultaneously down a few connectors. I seem to recall that Creamware use something similar in their proprietory bus to connect up their Pulsar and Scope cards. TDM technology is everywhere (GSM phones) and not inherently expensive. I think the answer is simply that Digi has been around a long time and has its hardware and software systems well sorted. It is thus able to use very small buffers for its audio steams and then it just charges what the market will bear. $4000 dollars US for a PCI card? Nice work if you can get it. Regards, Murray

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(off topic reply redirected from LUG to L-OT) From: reverie@... Date: Mon Jun 3, 2002 10:59am Subject: Re: [LUG] LAMP Logic under OSX Phil Angus wrote: >If anyone still wants to email me privately about why we get the "This >software cannot be installed on this computer" message every time we try and >update OSX from version 10.0.4 I would very much appreciate it. > If it is OS X you are trying to update, the next version was 10.1, which is a paid upgrade (about $20). That may be why you are getting the message. Unfortunately if your friend wants to use anything in OS X, virtually everything requires that 10.1 or later. Take care Jesse Widener

(off topic reply redirected from LUG to L-OT) From: "chaplainpc" <ChaplainPC@...> Date: Mon Jun 3, 2002 8:33am Subject: Re: [OT] How do Dsp cards and pro tools differ? romanp@... --- In logic-users@y..., roman pirie <romanp@x> wrote: > Cards like the UAD-1/powercore are definately an advancement into TDM > territory. > Can pro tools TDM give real time guitar effects etc whereas UAD-1 has > prohibitive latency? > How does pro tools offer these advantages? You might want to post this question at the Logic TDM board. Pete

(off topic reply redirected from LUG to L-OT) From: Marc Wilhite <mwilhite@...> Date: Mon Jun 3, 2002 3:48am Subject: Re: [LUG] [OT] How do Dsp cards and pro tools differ? roman pirie wrote: > > Cards like the UAD-1/powercore are definately an advancement into TDM > territory. > Can pro tools TDM give real time guitar effects etc whereas UAD-1 has > prohibitive latency? > How does pro tools offer these advantages? > I can't speak for latency with the UAD-1 but I was using the Powercore for a while with a MOTU setup. The latency would just drive me crazy. I've sold my Powercore and upgraded to a Pro Tools Mix system and let me tell you, latency is a thing of the past. I can play anything into it and get real time effects whether Im recording, playing back, or just monitoring. Its really awesome. -Marc

HELP LOGIC PLATINUM 5 VER 5.1.3 ERROR MESSAGE ASIO;DRIVER RETURNED ZERO OUTPUTS(-10016) ver 1.0.7 Click continue control panel will not open therefore no audio can be accessed to playback audio instruments OS 9.1 MAC G4 400 ADP MACHINE PROTOOLS HD CORE 2 X 96 I/O'S SAMPLE CELL CARD RESIDENT IN SLOT 7 MAGMA CHASSIS 2 X AMT8'S daisy chained off USB buss Could there be any other MAC extension conflict with this driver THANX GRAMJESS