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From: Paul Heitsch <Paul@pushplayaudio.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 at 9:54:55 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Xfade samples during note?
Message #16201
This is a reply to #16200.
> At 08:37 AM 4/16/2008, you wrote: > >> This actually works exactly the way I want it to. The way the patch worked >> originally was that every zone had all four groups assigned >> > Just out of interest, how did you make one Zone be part of 4 different Groups? > A Zone just has one Group Assignment parameter. Garth - Sorry for the confusion ­ lack of experience with the EXS editor showing. Each *note* has four zones assigned to it, and each zone is assigned to one of four groups. - PH ------------------------------------
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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@chickensys.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 at 11:35:15 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Xfade samples during note?
Message #16202
This is a reply to #16201.
At 09:54 AM 4/16/2008, you wrote: > >> This actually works exactly the way I want it to. The way the patch worked > >> originally was that every zone had all four groups assigned > >> > > Just out of interest, how did you make one > Zone be part of 4 different Groups? > > A Zone just has one Group Assignment parameter. >Sorry for the confusion ­ lack of experience with the EXS editor showing. > >Each *note* has four zones assigned to it, and each zone is assigned to one >of four groups. So you got the ModWheel XFade working, but you had mentioned earlier that your Zones were already grouped according to velocity, which you had 4 velocity splits. Did you notice that you couldn't combine the two - Vel splits and MW xfade? Or did you just substitute the Vel for Modwheel xfade? I'm asking just to be sure there wasn't any other way to do this. Garth Hjelte Sampler User ------------------------------------
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From: Paul Heitsch <Paul@pushplayaudio.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 at 12:42:59 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Xfade samples during note?
Message #16203
This is a reply to #16202.
>> Sorry for the confusion ­ lack of experience with the EXS editor showing. >> >> Each *note* has four zones assigned to it, and each zone is assigned to one >> of four groups. > > So you got the ModWheel XFade working, but you > had mentioned earlier that your Zones were > already grouped according to velocity, which you > had 4 velocity splits. Did you notice that you > couldn't combine the two - Vel splits and MW > xfade? Or did you just substitute the Vel for Modwheel xfade? > > I'm asking just to be sure there wasn't any other way to do this. > > Garth Hjelte > Sampler User Substituted. Velocity is still controlling volume for all four groups, so controlling timbre with the mod wheel is an acceptable trade-off. Thanks, again. - PH ------------------------------------
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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@chickensys.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 at 2:48:16 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Xfade samples during note?
Message #16204
This is a reply to #16203.
At 12:42 PM 4/16/2008, you wrote: > > So you got the ModWheel XFade working, but you > > had mentioned earlier that your Zones were > > already grouped according to velocity, which you > > had 4 velocity splits. Did you notice that you > > couldn't combine the two - Vel splits and MW > > xfade? Or did you just substitute the Vel for Modwheel xfade? > > > > I'm asking just to be sure there wasn't any other way to do this. > >Substituted. Velocity is still controlling volume for all four groups, so >controlling timbre with the mod wheel is an acceptable trade-off. OK, just crossing my fingers in case someone figured out some clever way of bypassing this. Garth Hjelte Sampler User ------------------------------------
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From: Paul Heitsch <Paul@pushplayaudio.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 at 4:34:00 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Xfade samples during note?
Message #16205
This is a reply to #16204.
> OK, just crossing my fingers in case someone figured out some clever > way of bypassing this. > > Garth Hjelte Nope, so far no one's cleverer than you. : ) - PH ------------------------------------
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 at 1:49:29 PM
Subject: [EXS] Montreal Redmatica Clinic
Message #16206
Hi All, Just wanted to let all the Montreal area users know - there will be an Apple in sotre clinic at Steve's Music Store this Monday, April 21 at 3:00 pm. The Redmatica developers will be there presenting Redmatica products. Steve's Music Store is located at 51 St. Antoine West. Phone number is (514) 878-2216. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.elikrantzberg.com http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com ------------------------------------
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From: "John Abram" <johnbabram@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 at 1:41:17 PM
Subject: [EXS] midi control of EXS parameters
Message #16207
I'm trying to switch EXS in Logic Studio (8.1) from poly to legato using a pedal switch. The Logic 8 manual does not even list the controllers for any of these functions, though Logic 7's manual tells me it's CC 71. But I can't seem to get CC71 (or any other controller) to talk to EXS in either version of Logic - is there something I'm forgetting about here? -- with best wishes, John http://abram.ca ------------------------------------
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From: "John Abram" <johnbabram@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 at 1:42:16 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: midi control of EXS parameters
Message #16208
This is a reply to #16207.
On 21/04/2008, John Abram <johnbabram@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm trying to switch EXS in Logic Studio (8.1) er, of course I mean 8.0.1 -- with best wishes, John http://abram.ca ------------------------------------
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 at 5:19:38 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] midi control of EXS parameters
Message #16209
This is a reply to #16207.
On Apr ,21, 2008, at 2:41 PM, John Abram wrote: > I'm trying to switch EXS in Logic Studio (8.1) from poly to legato > using a pedal switch. > The Logic 8 manual does not even list the controllers for any of these > functions, though Logic 7's manual tells me it's CC 71. > > But I can't seem to get CC71 (or any other controller) to talk to EXS > in either version of Logic - is there something I'm forgetting about > here? Hi John , I just checked, by hooking up a monitor to the channel strip, and it seems like the three modes are controlled by fader message 7. A value of 0 is poly, 1 is mono, and 2 is legato. Don't forget that these respond to fader messages; so you'll need to hook up a transformer in the environment to convert the incoming pedal messages appropriately. Also, don't forget that with L8's internal architecture, the instrument plugins are set to respond on MIDI channel 2. HTH. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.elikrantzberg.com http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com ------------------------------------
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From: "John Abram" <johnbabram@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 at 7:37:39 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] midi control of EXS parameters
Message #16210
This is a reply to #16209.
On 21/04/2008, Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca> wrote: > Hi John , > > I just checked, by hooking up a monitor to the channel strip, and it > seems like the three modes are controlled by fader message 7. A value > of 0 is poly, 1 is mono, and 2 is legato. > > Don't forget that these respond to fader messages; so you'll need to > hook up a transformer in the environment to convert the incoming > pedal messages appropriately. > > Also, don't forget that with L8's internal architecture, the > instrument plugins are set to respond on MIDI channel 2. > > HTH. Thanks, Eli, lots of great info - I'm away from Logic right now but will try this and report back. -- with best wishes, John http://abram.ca ------------------------------------
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From: "John Abram" <johnbabram@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 at 4:16:39 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] midi control of EXS parameters
Message #16211
This is a reply to #16209.
On 21/04/2008, Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca> wrote: > Hi John , > > I just checked, by hooking up a monitor to the channel strip, and it > seems like the three modes are controlled by fader message 7. A value > of 0 is poly, 1 is mono, and 2 is legato. > > Don't forget that these respond to fader messages; so you'll need to > hook up a transformer in the environment to convert the incoming > pedal messages appropriately. > > Also, don't forget that with L8's internal architecture, the > instrument plugins are set to respond on MIDI channel 2. > > HTH. > Fantastic - this all works. Thanks so much, Eli! -- with best wishes, John http://abram.ca ------------------------------------
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From: "John Abram" <johnbabram@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 at 12:52:41 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] midi control of EXS parameters
Message #16212
This is a reply to #16209.
On 21/04/2008, Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca> wrote: > > > Also, don't forget that with L8's internal architecture, the > instrument plugins are set to respond on MIDI channel 2. > Eli, where is this documented? -- with best wishes, John http://abram.ca ------------------------------------
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 at 2:47:35 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] midi control of EXS parameters
Message #16213
This is a reply to #16212.
On Apr ,22, 2008, at 1:52 PM, John Abram wrote: > Also, don't forget that with L8's internal architecture, the > > instrument plugins are set to respond on MIDI channel 2. > > > > Eli, where is this documented? You know - that's a really good question! I just quickly scanned the main L8 manual and couldn't find it anywhere. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.elikrantzberg.com http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com ------------------------------------
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 at 6:07:23 PM
Subject: [EXS] New EXS24 videos
Message #16214
Hey All, Just wanted to let everyone know about a new series of EXS 24 instructional videos that I've just completed. They are now available at Grooveboxmusic.com. You can find out more here: http://www.grooveboxmusic.com/store/training-videos/exs24-in-action.html -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.elikrantzberg.com http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com ------------------------------------
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From: Lars Granat <jamesharvest@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 at 12:33:45 AM
Subject: RE: [EXS] New EXS24 videos
Message #16215
This is a reply to #16214.
> Hey All, > > Just wanted to let everyone know about a new series of EXS 24 > instructional videos that I've just completed. They are now available > at Grooveboxmusic.com. You can find out more here: > > http://www.grooveboxmusic.com/store/training-videos/exs24-in-action.html > > > -------- > Eli Krantzberg > http://www.elikrantzberg.com > http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Nice! /overview ------------------------------------
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 at 6:33:18 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] New EXS24 videos
Message #16216
This is a reply to #16215.
Thank you! On Apr ,24, 2008, at 1:33 AM, Lars Granat wrote: > > Nice! > /overview -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.elikrantzberg.com http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com ------------------------------------
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From: jay turner <jaybearmountain@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 at 12:56:57 AM
Subject: Can I use logic express exs 24 sounds in Logic 8.......??
Message #16217
I have just made the jump from logic express to logic 8 and cannot seem to drop my fav drum sounds i had in exs 24 into logic 8...Can I do this,I have tried but with no success...HELP..... I havent played with it yet perphaps there are enough in 8 to not warrant bothering but it would mean re assigning all my drum sounds.. The same question with synths like albino and plug ins also....mmmm Ta v muchos
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From: "dancensoul" <groove7@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 at 3:45:55 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Can I use logic express exs 24 sounds in Logic 8.......??
Message #16218
This is a reply to #16217.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "jay turner" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by jay turner <jaybearmountain@...>: > > I have just made the jump from logic express to logic 8 and cannot seem to > drop my fav drum sounds i had in exs 24 into logic 8...Can I do this,I have > tried but with no success...HELP..... > I havent played with it yet perphaps there are enough in 8 to not warrant > bothering but it would mean re assigning all my drum sounds.. > The same question with synths like albino and plug ins also....mmmm > > Ta v muchos > I made the jump last year. If I understand correctly, all u have to do is make a copy of your EXS24 Sampler Instruments contents, and place them into the same folder in L8. ------------------------------------
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From: Christopher Pederson <littledoodler@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 at 12:42:12 PM
Subject: Some quick help needed with Logic Express 8 and EXS24
Message #16219
Hi, Can someone please tell me if I can load different sample libraries into the Logic Express sampler? I just bought a sample library from realsamples (the Dulcitone Celesta) and it comes with EXS24 samples, but I can not get them to load into the player. I have tried putting them into the application support folder under Application Support/logic/samplerinstruments and under Application Support/Logic/channelstrip settings. Please help, thanks.
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 at 6:35:00 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Some quick help needed with Logic Express 8 and EXS24
Message #16220
This is a reply to #16219.
Hi Christopher, It sounds like you put them in the right place. Put the Sampler Instruments in User - Library - Application Support - Logic - Sampler Instruments. Just make sure to hit the refresh menu command inside the EXS 24 pull down instrument menu from within the plug in. Either that or relaunch Logic. And of course make sure the samples are on your drives somewhere. On Apr ,26, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Christopher Pederson wrote: > Hi, Can someone please tell me if I can load different sample > libraries > into the Logic Express sampler? I just bought a sample library from > realsamples (the Dulcitone Celesta) and it comes with EXS24 > samples, but I > can not get them to load into the player. I have tried putting them > into > the application support folder under Application > Support/logic/samplerinstruments and under Application > Support/Logic/channelstrip settings. Please help, thanks. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.elikrantzberg.com http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com ------------------------------------
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From: Christopher Pederson <littledoodler@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 at 3:33:55 AM
Subject: Re: Some quick help needed with Logic Express 8 and EXS24
Message #16221
This is a reply to #16219.
I put them in the right place, but they don't seem to find their way in there. I did take the .exe files out of the folder at one point just to see if that would do it, but it said there were duplicates and then went to find the file and couldn't find it. Well, I have emailed the software designer, so he might be able to help. Is there any difference between the Express sampler and the Pro sampler features that night inhibit this from happening? I assume you can load other sound libraries into the EXS 24 in express right? thanks Chris
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From: Christopher Pederson <littledoodler@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 at 12:40:42 PM
Subject: Re: Some quick help needed with Logic Express 8 and EXS24
Message #16222
This is a reply to #16221.
So this appears to be a bug then, 'cause it never did work.
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 at 3:28:06 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Some quick help needed with Logic Express 8 and EXS24
Message #16223
This is a reply to #16222.
Hi Christopher, Sorry for the delay responding - it should work. The only explanation I can think of is pilot error somehow. You can absolutely bring in and use third party EXS formatted libraries with any version of the EXS 24 in any version of Logic. So, I don't know where the error is, but just to repeat what needs to be done: * The sampler instruments (should have a .exs at the end of the names of the files) need to be in the User Library folder. In Applications -- Logic -- Sampler Instruments. * The samples need to be somewhere on one of your drives that your system can see. That should be it. Make sure the sampler instruments aren't nested too deeply inside sub folders. Maybe that could potentially be a problem. Don't forget to "refersh menu" in the Instrument menu after placing them where they need to be. Other than that - it should work! On Apr ,28, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Christopher Pederson wrote: > > So this appears to be a bug then, 'cause it never did work. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.elikrantzberg.com http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com ------------------------------------
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 at 3:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Some quick help needed with Logic Express 8 and EXS24
Message #16224
This is a reply to #16223.
Oops - that should read "Application Support" instead of "Applications". On Apr ,28, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Eli Krantzberg wrote: > > * The sampler instruments (should have a .exs at the end of the names > of the files) need to be in the User Library folder. In Applications > -- Logic -- Sampler Instruments. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.elikrantzberg.com http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com ------------------------------------
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From: Dino Virella <dino@mvproaudio.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 at 6:23:04 PM
Subject: REDMATICA LOS ANGELES SEMNIARS COMING SOON!
Message #16225
ALL DATES PRELIMINARY... TO BE CONFIRMED IN A FEW DAYS!!! Crossfades and Cannelloni Summer Tour Please join us for a very special VIP event featuring Redmatica software solutions. Mr. Andrea Gozzi, founder and Technology Director from Redmatica headquarters (all the way from Italy!) will be in attendance at various Los Angeles locations to demonstrate Redmatica’s award-winning products. Redmatica products are ideal companions to any virtual samplers on the Mac platform, including Native Instruments Kontakt, Digidesign Structure, Steinberg Halion, and Motu MachFive. Never before has the management and construction of instruments banks been so creative and easy. The obstacles have been removed! If you’re an Apple Logic user, these products will also interest you especially now that Logic Pro 8/Studio and Redmatica products are seamlessly integrated. It bears mentioning that Redmatica and Apple worked closely on this integration—so closely that Redmatica’s products are mentioned in the Logic operators manual… no easy feat. Special pricing the night of the event! Monday June 2, 2008 Logic Pro Help and LALPUG (Los Angeles Logic Pro User Group) presents Redmatica’s Andrea Gozzi Special Venue: RSPE 4130 Cahuenga Blvd., Suite 210 Universal City, CA 91602 818-509-5876 http://logicprohelp.com/usergroup.php Wednesday June 4, 2008 Redmatica Solutions featuring Andrea Gozzi West LA Music 11345 Santa Monica Blvd. Los Angeles, California 90025 (310) 477-1945 7PM -8PM www.westlamusic.com Thursday June 5, 2008 Redmatica Solutions featuring Andrea Gozzi West LA Music - Universal City 3501 Cahuenga Blvd. West Los Angeles, CA 90068 (310) 477-1945 7PM -8PM www.westlamusic.com SEATING WILL BE VERY LIMITED AT EVERY VENUE!!! WE EXPECT A FULL-HOUSE, SO PLEASE RSVP TODAY!!! WHO YOU SHOULD BE THERE? • Owners of ANY soft-sampler (Kontakt, Structure, Mach5, Halion, etc.) • Logic 8 Users • Owners of vintage keyboard collections • Owners of HUGE sound libraries struggling with file management • Artists, producers and engineers looking for THE easy way to get unique sound and/or instruments PRODUCTS COVERED Keymap 1.5 • Winner of Electronic Musician Magazine's 2008 Editors Choice Award • The most complete and intuitive sample editor available...period! • Seamless integration with Apple Logic Pro 8/Studio • Best-in-class automatic looping/slicing/transient detection • Innovative harmonic resynthesis • Advanced tuning/pitch functions • Surround sound and spacialization utilities • Full compatibility with popular virtual samplers, including Kontakt, MachFive, Halion, and more, plus output in multiple file formats ExsManager • Manage and optimize sampler instruments on your hard drive with blazing speed • Automatically find and re-link missing samples to instruments • Detect duplicate and unused samples, consolidate samples for improved performance • THE replacement for the old Project Manager in Logic 7, 6, etc. AutoSampler • Fully automated sampling of MIDI synths and sound modules—-even MIDIed pianos and multiple sources! • Quickly and easily archive your hardware instrument collection as convenient soft-synth patches • Fully programmable set up with advanced layering, velocity switching, patch selections, and more • Automatic sample processing, including normalization, phase alignment, and trim
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