In my outboard Emu Ultra, I can set the sample start point to correlate to the key being pressed. Correctly setting the modulation amount with source as key and destination as sample start point will trigger a sample to play back from different beat subdivisions based on the key pressed. The main goal of such a setup is to beat slice without actually having to cut a sample into different audio files. I wonder if anyone here has had success in doing the same with the EXS24, and if so, how it was set up. Being able to implement this very handy feature of the Ultra by way of the EXS24 would be a big time saver.

Hi, Ofcourse there's a description for the file format, it's just not released to the public. However, I managed to reverse engineer the most important parts of it to program an utility that simply loads wav files and creates exs instrument files for them. It also recreats the folder structure from which the wav:s were loaded, (that becomes the menus in the EXS24). I first tried this with a library of 2000 wav:s I have had om my HD for a long time that now are playable from the EXS24 :) I haven't reverse engineered all bytes of the exs file format, just enough to be able to create exs files (so far). If anyone's interested I'd be happy to share this little utility! I can also think of several features that could be added in the future. Note: The program only applies to PC and is only tested for the EXS24 that comes with Logic ver 5.5.1, it's also an early alfa release 0.0.1 Cheers everyone

At 04:23 -0500 2007/10/30, Peter Falck wrote: >If anyone's interested I'd be happy to share this little utility Yes, I'm deeply interested... Should I PM you? -- Jym Feat -- Paris FR 75018

can this solve the exs sampler archive problem?

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "soundrazor" <greggo314@...> wrote: > > In my outboard Emu Ultra, I can set the sample start point to correlate to the key being > pressed. Correctly setting the modulation amount with source as key and destination as > sample start point will trigger a sample to play back from different beat subdivisions based > on the key pressed. The main goal of such a setup is to beat slice without actually having to > cut a sample into different audio files. > You don't HAVE to cut a sample into different audio files, but it would probably actually be easier to do so. Just be sure to backup your original file. If I were going to do it the way you're trying to, here's how I'd do it: First I'd look at those beat slices and note at which sample each one starts. Then I'd create a new instrument. Then I'd create however many zones I need, probably mapped only to white keys. Then I'd load the sample to each zone and disable pitch (just to be safe). Finally, I'd set the start point of each zone at the sample the beat starts and end point at the last sample before the next beat. Of course, you'll want to alter attack/decay time from the front of EXS so you avoid "surprises." I've pondered making construction kits, but one life is just too short to get to everything. The problem with the above method is that the same long sample would be loaded multiple times, decreasing your sample RAM. You might as well chop it up. I'm not sure modulation source/destination will work, although technically it SHOULD, because there's the question of accurately starting the sample at the correct point. If you have, say, 4 beats and the keys were set to trigger a percentage modulation, like 0%, 25%, 50%, and 75% respectively, and each beat occurs at EXACTLY those points, then there shouldn't be any problem. Just set it up in the EXS router. Or you could just keep things simple and chop it up. ;) I've never tried it your way before, but I think I'll check it out to see if it CAN be done. I'm sure it can. yours, Kyle Beckham

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, jf@... wrote: > > At 04:23 -0500 2007/10/30, Peter Falck wrote: > >If anyone's interested I'd be happy to share this little utility > > Yes, I'm deeply interested... Should I PM you? > > -- > Jym Feat -- Paris FR 75018 > I have logic 8....so is there anyway in the future to make one that will work with 8? Thanks! -Dan

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Hello All, I've posted a FREE set of Suspended Slate Rocks (10 mb) for the EXS 24 at the Bolder website. This is a demo version of the full version which is 140 mb. Also posted are a couple of mp3 demos, one with narration explaining how I approached the process of sampling and programming these slate rocks. Have fun! Dennis http://www.boldersounds.com/

How were the rocks suspended? Did you drill holes in them or what? It sounds excellent: fine job - thanks.

On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:35 PM, jf@ai.univ-paris8.fr wrote: > How were the rocks suspended? Did you drill holes in them or what? > > It sounds excellent: fine job - thanks. Yes. I drilled holes in the top of each rock (the top being where ever I determined it would be) and then strung fishing line through them. I then ran a laundry line across my studio connected to some pipes on each side of the room. I struck the slates with a rubber mallet, the stick end of the mallet as well as the flesh of my hand in different areas of the slate rocks which produces different colors. I have a pile of 15 of these things sitting in my basement of all different sizes (I ended up using 7 of them for this set). I'd like to do another sampling of them some day with a slightly different approach when I have time. I'm happy you like them! Dennis @ Bolder

there is a reference on the internet for a freeware sf2 to exs converter by Mikael Persson / Soundware. His website is no longer in existence. Does anyone have a copy of this free program? If so, can you post it to the group or email it to me? Thanks, - Joel

Hi! I have the cdxtract 4.1 and the QL Brass S5000. I've tried to convert to exs24 on logic pro 7 (mac OS10.3.9)but it has some problem...it didnot convert the samples. The program was converted but i think it didnot do it correctly.' What i mean is the program converted shows the right zone assignment( i hope) but with only one sample on all zones but i still can't play any sound cause the samples in the audio file field says 0:00:00:00. CDxtract manage to convert the one sample of every program. I tried using sample only convert from wav to aif...it didnt work. Can anyone help me out?

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "joelbraverman" <onephatcat@...> wrote: > > there is a reference on the internet for a freeware sf2 to exs > converter by Mikael Persson / Soundware. His website is no longer in > existence. Does anyone have a copy of this free program? If so, can > you post it to the group or email it to me? > > Thanks, > > - Joel Is a program necessary? EXS24 can import .sf2 on its own. Put the .sf2 file into ~/Library/Application Support/Logic/Sampler Instruments/ Start Logic, insert EXS24 in an instrument channel, load up the soundfont2 file, and EXS24 will convert it to .exs for you. -droo

> > there is a reference on the internet for a freeware sf2 to exs > > converter by Mikael Persson / Soundware. His website is no longer in > > existence. Does anyone have a copy of this free program? If so, can > > you post it to the group or email it to me? > > > > Thanks, > > > > - Joel > > Is a program necessary? EXS24 can import .sf2 on its own. Put the .sf2 file into > > ~/Library/Application Support/Logic/Sampler Instruments/ > > Start Logic, insert EXS24 in an instrument channel, load up the soundfont2 file, and EXS24 > will convert it to .exs for you. > > -droo > I have Logic Express, EXSP24, I don't think it will load .sf2, will it? - Joel

Hi! I finally got the solution from sonikmatter forum. What i did was copied the whole file from all 5 Disc of QLBrass S5000 to hard disk and then i CDxtract it to exs24. Its working fine now. Thanks

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "joelbraverman" <onephatcat@...> wrote: > > > > > there is a reference on the internet for a freeware sf2 to exs > > > converter by Mikael Persson / Soundware. His website is no longer in > > > existence. Does anyone have a copy of this free program? If so, can > > > you post it to the group or email it to me? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > - Joel > > > > Is a program necessary? EXS24 can import .sf2 on its own. Put the > .sf2 file into > > > > ~/Library/Application Support/Logic/Sampler Instruments/ > > > > Start Logic, insert EXS24 in an instrument channel, load up the > soundfont2 file, and EXS24 > > will convert it to .exs for you. > > > > -droo > > > > > I have Logic Express, EXSP24, I don't think it will load .sf2, will it? > > - Joel > Pretty sure it will, havn't used express for a while, but i think it does.... Just checked the express 7 manual and it says yes. Express 8 has EXS24 so it definitely can.. Mike

Logic Express 8 has the EXS24, but Logic Express 7 only has the EXS24P (player only), AFAIK, u can only play EXS34 instruments...no converting...

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, vibes <groove7@...> wrote: > > Logic Express 8 has the EXS24, but Logic Express 7 only has the EXS24P > (player only), AFAIK, u can only play EXS34 instruments...no converting... > Thanks for your replies. So does this mean that nobody has a copy of SF2EXS.exe? It is too bad that a useful free utility like that would have disappeared from the net with no trace. Thanks, - Joel

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, vibes <groove7@...> wrote: > > Logic Express 8 has the EXS24, but Logic Express 7 only has the EXS24P > (player only), AFAIK, u can only play EXS34 instruments...no converting... > according to the manual you can.... "Importing SoundFont2 Files To make use of this functionality, simply copy or move your SoundFont2 files into the Sampler Instruments folder. Select the file name in the EXSP24 Sampler Instrument load flip-menu and the file will automatically be converted. An EXS Instrument file will be created in the Sampler Instruments folder which contains the original SoundFont2 file. The raw samples associated with the Sampler Instrument will be placed in a SoundFont Samples folder within the Logic program folder. " Mike

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "mt100uk" <miketaylor100@...> wrote: > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, vibes <groove7@> wrote: > > > > Logic Express 8 has the EXS24, but Logic Express 7 only has the EXS24P > > (player only), AFAIK, u can only play EXS34 instruments...no converting... > > > according to the manual you can.... > > "Importing SoundFont2 Files > To make use of this functionality, simply copy or move your SoundFont2 files into the > Sampler Instruments folder. > Select the file name in the EXSP24 Sampler Instrument load flip-menu and the file will > automatically be converted. An EXS Instrument file will be created in the Sampler > Instruments folder which contains the original SoundFont2 file. The raw samples > associated with the Sampler Instrument will be placed in a SoundFont Samples folder > within the Logic program folder. " > > Mike > Thanks, big time for that information, I'll let you know how it works. - Joel

I was just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Patches will play fine for awhile then all of a sudden they abruptly cut out after a second with a "pop". I have to restart Logic to get back to trouble free operation. System is a dual 2.66 gHz intel mac , OS 10.4.10. Latest ver. of Logic Studio.

You have got to tick archive in the .exs sampler instrument folder.Right click then properties, this should solve the problem.Dont have anything else ticked. Its a long time since this question but someone might need an answer, Cheers Dave P.S. the problem usually arrives when copying file from cd,if its an import Akai for example I guess you wouldnt get the problem

Yep, the same here. Dual 2.5GHz G5, OSX.4.10 Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Am 16.11.2007 um 05:45 schrieb Timothy Clarke: > Message posted by Timothy Clarke <tim@score-music.com>: > > I was just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Patches > will play > fine for awhile then all of a sudden they abruptly cut out after a > second > with a "pop". I have to restart Logic to get back to trouble free > operation. > > System is a dual 2.66 gHz intel mac , OS 10.4.10. Latest ver. of > Logic > Studio. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > EXS Users Group - new web forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

Am 16.11.2007 um 05:45 schrieb Timothy Clarke: > Message posted by Timothy Clarke <tim@score-music.com <mailto:tim%40score-music.com> >: > > I was just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Patches > will play > fine for awhile then all of a sudden they abruptly cut out after a > second > with a "pop". I have to restart Logic to get back to trouble free > operation. > > System is a dual 2.66 gHz intel mac , OS 10.4.10. Latest ver. of > Logic > Studio. Does anyone know where the extended quantize parameters have gone? Does 8 still got them? Cause that was what really made a difference in terms of quantizing a performance preserving the human feel... Tuto Ferraz 11 9945 2370 11 3871 5997 Ichat tutoferraz AIM account Msn tutoferraz@hotmail.com Skype name tutoferraz

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