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> > On Oct 12, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Nick Batzdorf wrote
> Well, the "standard" is what musicians have come to expect
from a
> modern sample library based on what's being offered these days.
I understand what you are saying here Nick, I just wanted to evoke a
clearer response as to the "standard" statement.
>
> The programming Keymap produces should import into all the other
> samplers no problem.
The word *should* is the operative word here. I recently had some
percussion samples(slate rocks) set up in KM 1.5 to do a Round Robin.
I brought them into the EXS and they worked fine. I brought that same
EXS instrument into Kontakt 2 and the RR did not work at all. I sent
Garth an email at Chicken Systems and he had it fixed in Translator
within 24 hours (another guy who has incredible tech support BTW). I
assume that fix will be in the next version of Kontakt as well.
I have not used MachFive or Halion or Giga in a while, so I cannot
comment on their import abilities. But certainly if you understand
the architecture of whatever format you are importing into with a bit
of tweaking you can straighten this stuff out anyway.
Also.... yesterday I was working with a gigabyte on Zither samples.
Keymap 1.5 has a new auto-tune type function which can be used on a
per-sample/zone basis. Well I was just BLOWN AWAY by how easy it was
to tune all those samples. I was left thinking of all the hours I've
spent in the past years tuning samples "by hand", it was
depressing
and exhilarating at the same time. Anyway ... Keymap totally kicks
some butt!!
Dennis
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Dennis Burns
Bolder Sounds
Boulder Colorado
http://www.boldersounds.com
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Hey Andrea,
My name is Willie Dowling and I¹ve been using your programme
EXSManager Pro
(I¹m currently v 2.9.2) for some time now.
I compose music mostly for film and television (www.williedowling.co.uk)
interjected with occasional band projects, and I¹m just about to start
a new
film wherein one of the key instruments is a Welsh pump organ. This is
comprised of all home made samples which I recently, for the very first
time, crudely imported the samples into an EXS24 instrument. No looping,
nothing complex. Just simple import each sample to a Zone on each key note I
sampled, tell the sample the range of notes it is to play over, even out the
volumes a little and make minor adjustments to sample start times, and
that¹s about it. And it works ok. Sustain a note too long and it just
stops
of course, but the thought of learning how to loop over each sample is too
daunting and time consuming.
But I¹ve been following the recent traffic in the Logic user groups
with
interest, and it seems that your keymap one (if I¹m right in what I
think
I¹ve understood!) is the intelligent and simple way to do this kind of
import job much more efficiently. I should stress that for the most part I
rely on my rather huge music library which I use within EXS24 and rarely
even edit sounds, let alone create my own, but I do have a number of folders
of wav samples of various instruments , including the pump organ, that are
currently unused simply because I¹m not that experienced in creating my
own
EXS instruments from scratch, and whenever I¹ve tried it seems
extremely
time consuming.
Would I be correct in thinking that this new program of yours would be ideal
for me, and is it really as simple as people are suggesting, given that not
only am I inexperienced at this kind of thing, I am also intensely lazy!
I would appreciate any advice you may have.
I run a G5 quad OSX 10.4.8, using Logic Pro ver 7.2.3 combining a DAE-TDM
environment with core audio.
Thanks for any suggestions,
Willie Dowling
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At the 123rd AES Convention in New York, Redmatica unveiled Keymap
> One V1.5, the newest entry in the Redmatica Keymap family of sampled
> instruments editors for Mac OSX.
>
> Keymap One 1.5 delivers the key features and workflow of the flagship
> Redmatica Keymap 1.5 instrument editor, including Logic 8
> integration, at a groundbreaking price for users that simply do not
> need all the hi-end features of Keymap, but still want to use the
> most modern sampling environment available today.
>
> The integration with Logic is made through a new Organizer Window
> which shows the active editing sessions between the two applications,
> and instruments can be sent back and forth with a single click. The
> list of supported file formats includes EXS24, GarageBand, Ultrabeat
> (.ubs) and EXS24-Monolithic, a new format where each instrument and
> its samples are stored as a single file. The EXS24 format is one of
> the most supported formats in the industry, and directly imported by
> Native Instruments Kontakt, Digidesign Structure, Motu MachFive2 and
> Steinberg Halion.
>
> Keymap One offers a sophisticated workflow, export of the processed
> samples directly by drag and drop, built-in Sample and Loop editors,
> a Setup editor for combining and merging instruments, and extended
> key commands support. Keymap One provides the same powerful
> Autolooping functions of Keymap, so that samples can be easily looped
> with a minimum effort.
>
> Pricing & Availability
>
> Keymap One 1.5 is available starting today, at a suggested retail
> price of 100.00 Euro (roughly 150.00 USD) from the Redmatica Web
> Store and authorized distributors.
>
> More informations about system requirements, pdf manuals and videos
> can be found at www.redmatica.com.
>
> Best Regards
> Andrea at Redmatica
>
>
> .
>
>
On Oct 15, 2007, at 6:48 AM, angelrho202 wrote:
> I should be receiving my copy of Logic Studio any day now. But I'm
> impatient.
>
> My understanding is that Logic is supposed to take better
> advantage of
> multi-channel mixes and the like, able to burn DVD-As, etc. At the
> moment I'm using my iBook G4 more and more live and am repeatedly
> stunned by what little I can actually do with a product with so many
> features. In THEORY, I've noticed EXS24 can already use multiple
> audio
> outs, although PRACTICALLY I can't because my computer keeps crashing
> my audio interface (ALWAYS losing sync at critical moments).
>
>
Well I hate to say it but if youre having trouble using Logic 7 live,
Logic 8 isnt going to get any better on that iBook G4.
Im running it on a dual 1.6 G4 (was originally a single 800Mhz) and
it uses a bit more cpu then 7 did..
At our studio we have a dual 867 that I got brave and upgraded as
well. Our mixes that used to use about 50% of the CPUs are now using
up about 80 and often they overload now and quit.
Was doing a mix last night of a two mic jam we did live, has 5 tracks
total, some compressors, and EQ's on some of the tracks.. And that
thing was using an entire CPU and then some.. 5 tracks!!
Both of the machines also have substandard graphics cards though as
well (Logic Studio wants 64MB of VRAM to use the OpenGL features) so
that may have some effect on performance as well..
Youre lucky though, youll be fine once your MacBook Pro arrives.
The jump in performance from the G4 to the Intel line is like night
and day.
Since I cant afford a new one soon Im thinking of making my new Dell
CoreDuo at work into a Hackintosh hahaha.
---
Chris
www.monotrematamusic.com
www.descentrecords.com
Willie sent me this message as a personal email to which I replied,
but as he also posted here.... I'm copying my reply for everyone.
Best Regards
Andrea at Redmatica
On 15/Oct / 2007, at 7:49 PM, Willie Dowling wrote:
> Hey Andrea,
>
> My name is Willie Dowling and I’ve been using your programme
> EXSManager Pro (I’m currently v 2.9.2) for some time now.
>
> I compose music mostly for film and television
> (www.williedowling.co.uk) interjected with occasional band
> projects, and I’m just about to start a new film wherein one of the
> key instruments is a Welsh pump organ. This is comprised of all
> home made samples which I recently, for the very first time,
> crudely imported the samples into an EXS24 instrument. No looping,
> nothing complex. Just simple import each sample to a Zone on each
> key note I sampled, tell the sample the range of notes it is to
> play over, even out the volumes a little and make minor adjustments
> to sample start times, and that’s about it. And it works ok.
> Sustain a note too long and it just stops of course, but the
> thought of learning how to loop over each sample is too daunting
> and time consuming.
Hello Willie,
my personal experience too is that with the traditional tools you try
doing these things once, and then twice, and then... you stop,
because it's too boring and time consuming. Keymap was designed
exactly out of my frustration with current tools and to make
instrument building/editing a great and simple experience.
>
>
> But I’ve been following the recent traffic in the Logic user groups
> with interest, and it seems that your keymap one (if I’m right in
> what I think I’ve understood!) is the intelligent and simple way to
> do this kind of import job much more efficiently.
Keymap One is the entry level version, but contains the same looping
and autolooping functions than Keymap (the bigger one), and is an
excellent way to start editing/building your instruments. Respect to
Keymap, in Keymap One you will miss some potentiallly useful things,
as automapping by pitch detection (i.e. drag and drop instrument
building), but you can always upgrade from Keymap One to Keymap for
not much more than the difference (this upgrade is not yet available
on the site, but will be in a few days).
> I should stress that for the most part I rely on my rather huge
> music library which I use within EXS24 and rarely even edit sounds,
> let alone create my own, but I do have a number of folders of wav
> samples of various instruments , including the pump organ, that are
> currently unused simply because I’m not that experienced in
> creating my own EXS instruments from scratch, and whenever I’ve
> tried it seems extremely time consuming.
Yes, but from the feedback we got from users, once the process
becomes simple and fun, you have a huge incentive at building your
own personal sounds/effects/drums, or at least that's what we see.
> Would I be correct in thinking that this new program of yours would
> be ideal for me, and is it really as simple as people are
> suggesting, given that not only am I inexperienced at this kind of
> thing, I am also intensely lazy!
Well, i'll tell you one thing: i'm *very* lazy too, or at least I
totally hate doing repetitive and boring tasks. That's why Redmatica
focus is on apps that automate and take care of complex/repetitive/
boring things! The application is deep, meaning that you can do a
tons of things with it, but we spent lot of time to make it simple to
use, with great visualization at all times of what you do.
> I would appreciate any advice you may have.
I would try the freely available demo, and btw, if you want, why
don't you send me 3 or 4 of your organ samples so I can check them
and tell you if you can get a good result out of them? We are always
interested in checking our apps against real world situations.
> I run a G5 quad OSX 10.4.8, using Logic Pro ver 7.2.3 combining a
> DAE-TDM environment with core audio.
The configuration is good (especially as you have a quad), provided
you have some decent amount of RAM (1GB is ok, but 2GB and more would
be optimal).
Best Regards
Andrea at Redmatica
Hi guys, just to let you all know Ive mailed the forum owner (using the mail
at the bottom of
the page) to find out what if any the process / owner how we proceed with
this.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "guy lewis"
<guypersonal@...> wrote:
>
> Hi guys, just to let you all know Ive mailed the forum owner (using
the mail at the bottom of
> the page) to find out what if any the process / owner how we proceed
with this.
Hi Guy
We are certainly aware of the interest in doing another Group Buy with
Redmatica, in fact we did one for the EXS manager back in 2003. There
isn't anything else you need to do, the interest is shown through the
number of posts written here, and the quality of the software certainly
speaks for itself. It can boil down to whether it is possible to set
one up or not - typically, the issues can be, first of all if the
developer is in principle interested, whether he may have other
commitments such as distribution agreements, whether we can reach
suitable pricing etc.
kind regards
Mark Cahill
I would love to be involved....
On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:39 AM, guy lewis wrote:
> Hi guys, just to let you all know Vie mailed the forum owner (using
> the mail at the bottom of
> the page) to find out what if any the process / owner how we
> proceed with this.
On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:45 AM, markdvc2002 wrote:
> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "guy lewis"
<guypersonal@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys, just to let you all know Ive mailed the forum owner (using
> the mail at the bottom of
>> the page) to find out what if any the process / owner how we
proceed
> with this.
>
>
> Hi Guy
>
> We are certainly aware of the interest in doing another Group Buy with
> Redmatica, in fact we did one for the EXS manager back in 2003. There
> isn't anything else you need to do, the interest is shown through the
> number of posts written here, and the quality of the software
> certainly
> speaks for itself. It can boil down to whether it is possible to set
> one up or not - typically, the issues can be, first of all if the
> developer is in principle interested, whether he may have other
> commitments such as distribution agreements, whether we can reach
> suitable pricing etc.
>
> kind regards
>
> Mark Cahill
>
>
Okay, then, I'm interested too.
fm
HI Mark, and thanks for the clarification. So I guess if anyone is
interested in being
included in a possible group buy they need to post a confirmation here now
so that
Redmatica can either make comment or contact you with their thoughts...?
Thanks
Guy
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "markdvc2002" <mark@...>
wrote:
> Hi Guy
>
> We are certainly aware of the interest in doing another Group Buy with
> Redmatica, in fact we did one for the EXS manager back in 2003. There
> isn't anything else you need to do, the interest is shown through the
> number of posts written here, and the quality of the software certainly
> speaks for itself. It can boil down to whether it is possible to set
> one up or not - typically, the issues can be, first of all if the
> developer is in principle interested, whether he may have other
> commitments such as distribution agreements, whether we can reach
> suitable pricing etc.
>
> kind regards
>
> Mark Cahill
>
>
> wwwGearSlutz.com, www.TapeOp.com and DOA (www.DogsOnAcid.com)
>
> Any other ones would be great, but I go on those the most. I think the
> "full" package is what we should def try to go for. Maybe get
it in
> the $200-275 area. I would jump on that quick and im sure many others
> would. Let me know what you come up with.
>
Dan, the guy mentioned on this forum that has previously organised groups
buys needs to
be contacted about this so Ive done that.
community.sonikmatter.com
www.logicuser.de
studio-central.com
http://www.macmusic.org/ ( http://en.440forums.com/forums/?
showforume&lang=en&s40e4a340bb96b396b2bf1069fa95c2 )
Guy
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "guy lewis"
<guypersonal@...> wrote:
>
> HI Mark, and thanks for the clarification. So I guess if anyone is
interested in being
> included in a possible group buy they need to post a confirmation
here now so that
> Redmatica can either make comment or contact you with their
thoughts...?
Hi Guy
Anyone who wishes to post that they are interested in partaking in a
group buy is of course perfectly welocme to do so. There is however,
no need to do this. Whenever we run a group buy, that is when people
have to get in touch in order to subscribe. They don't do that by
writing here, instead, typically a mail address gets set up to
accomodate subscriptions, together with a group buy page at our
website, logic-users.org. Just in case you haven't seen this, here is
how the last group buy looked:
http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/vimag
HTH, kind regards
Mark Cahill
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "markdvc2002" <mark@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "guy lewis"
<guypersonal@> wrote:
> >
> > HI Mark, and thanks for the clarification. So I guess if anyone is
> interested in being
> > included in a possible group buy they need to post a confirmation
> here now so that
> > Redmatica can either make comment or contact you with their
> thoughts...?
>
>
> Hi Guy
>
> Anyone who wishes to post that they are interested in partaking in a
> group buy is of course perfectly welocme to do so. There is however,
> no need to do this. Whenever we run a group buy, that is when people
> have to get in touch in order to subscribe. They don't do that by
> writing here, instead, typically a mail address gets set up to
> accomodate subscriptions, together with a group buy page at our
> website, logic-users.org. Just in case you haven't seen this, here is
> how the last group buy looked:
>
> http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/vimag
>
> HTH, kind regards
>
> Mark Cahill
>
I posted on DOA to get an idea of how many people want it, but once we
get the details I will post it on there and try to get more people. I
think TapeOp and GearSlutz are good places also. Im sure there are
many other places to post, so if you guys have anymore places/forums
that you go then let me know and I can send you the "post" and you
can
just copy/paste it there. But we will need to get the details from
Redmatica before doing this....obviously.
-Dan
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "guy lewis" <forums@...>
wrote:
>
> Message posted by guy lewis <guypersonal@...>:
>
> Im up for this.. great idea, surely they would be interested if we
got enough people together. Their full package isnt in the budget
price bracket for sure....
>
I'm definitely interested in the group buy
>
> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:exs-users%40yahoogroups.com> , "guy
> lewis" <forums@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Message posted by guy lewis <guypersonal@...>:
>> >
>> > Im up for this.. great idea, surely they would be interested
if we
> got enough people together. Their full package isnt in the budget
> price bracket for sure....
>> >
> I'm definitely interested in the group buy
>
> I¹d add my name to the list if a group buy is a possibility
> willie dowling (Andrea sent me a quicktime showing how it works and it
looks
> fantastic)
> Anyone who wishes to post that they are interested in partaking in a
> group buy is of course perfectly welocme to do so. There is however,
> no need to do this. Whenever we run a group buy, that is when people
> have to get in touch in order to subscribe. They don't do that by
> writing here, instead, typically a mail address gets set up to
> accomodate subscriptions, together with a group buy page at our
> website, logic-users.org. Just in case you haven't seen this, here is
> how the last group buy looked:
>
> http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/vimag
>
> HTH, kind regards
>
> Mark Cahill
>
Ho wdo we get this to happen Mark?
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "guy lewis"
<guypersonal@...> wrote:
>
> Ho wdo we get this to happen Mark?
I think I already explained in general terms how LUG group buys work,
Guy. I appreciate and understand your curiosity and enthusiasm, but
please understand that the most important issue is if a developer wants to
do one with us, and we
can work out all the details involved and reach agreement. If this is the
case, then a group buy may at some stage come to fruition, and as you can
see on the group buy history at logic-users.org, IMHO we have quite an
impressive track record. However, if a developer isn't able to, and there
can be all sorts of reasons why not, then it just won't
happen.
I have been quite involved in helping setting up quite a number of
the LUG group buys over the last four years. We talked with some companies
for well over 6 months until we were able to do something.
Please also bear in mind that it is our cast iron policy to never
pre-announce any group buys.
kind regards
Mark Cahill
I'm in.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "guy lewis" <forums@...>
wrote:
>
> Message posted by guy lewis <guypersonal@...>:
>
> Im up for this.. great idea, surely they would be interested if we
got enough people together. Their full package isnt in the budget
price bracket for sure....
>
I'm also down for sure. I also have a friend who is down. So really I'm down
for two copies.
-tom
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "vanitypolice"
<napack@...> wrote:
>
> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "guy lewis" <forums@>
wrote:
> >
> > Message posted by guy lewis <guypersonal@>:
> >
> > Im up for this.. great idea, surely they would be interested if we
> got enough people together. Their full package isnt in the budget
> price bracket for sure....
> >
>
> I'm also down for sure. I also have a friend who is down. So really
I'm down for two copies.
> -tom
>
I'm interested, for sure. I'll pass the idea to some friends, too.
--- In exs-users@yahoogrou ps.com, "guy lewis" <forums@...>
wrote:
>
> Message posted by guy lewis <guypersonal@ ...>:
>
> Im up for this.. great idea, surely they would be interested if we
got enough people together. Their full package isnt in the budget
price bracket for sure....
Count me in too...
SampleTrump
Sorry to be a curmudgeon, but to me this is just plain wrong.
If I were Redmatica, no way would I stage a group buy on Keymap. I've
been working for years on a brilliant and unique program that
threatens to revolutionize sample library development. Why should I
lower the price? I can't raise it again after a group buy, in fact
it's already a problem that people have been trained to expect group
buys with bargain basement prices before they buy anything.
Of course it's nice to get ridiculously cheap prices, but if we want
to have great software, we need to pay for it.
Now, lest anyone think I'm a hypocrite, we did run a group buy for VI
mag on the Logic list. But that wasn't anything that's going to hurt
the industry by lowering the prices to the point that magazines can't
survive. So it's not that I'm against normal capitalistic processes
or that I don't see the other side, just that I want great software
to continue to be developed.
Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher
Virtual Instruments Magazine
www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com
1-877 VImagzn (846-2496)
+1818/905-9101, cell 590-9101
A "Group Purchase" for Redmatica It would truly be great' Put me
down
Freddy Turner
I am working on a track that seems to be begging for tubular bells - I have
had a search on the internet but cannot seem to find a sample-set to buy,
only enormous symphonic packages costing way too much for this project. Can
anyone suggest or help out with a Tubular Bells sample set for the EXS? Many
thanks, Joe, Joe Public Studios.
At 07:56 AM 10/20/2007, you wrote:
>I am working on a track that seems to be begging for tubular bells - I
have
>had a search on the internet but cannot seem to find a sample-set to
buy,
>only enormous symphonic packages costing way too much for this project.
Can
>anyone suggest or help out with a Tubular Bells sample set for the EXS?
Many
>thanks, Joe, Joe Public Studios.
There's ProjectSAM True Strike 1, but that's in the category of too
much cost (although you won't regret the purchase).
I saw something on www.sf2midi.com; it's a SoundFont, which you can load in.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
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