--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Burns <dennis@...> wrote: > > > > On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Dennis Burns wrote: > > > Are instruments created in the EXS 24 in the new Logic 8 compatible/ > > playable/loadable with version 7? > > > > I was told by Andrea @ Redmatica that the EXS format has not changed > and there should be no problem. > > I see the edit window has been somewhat redesigned in the EXS of > Logic 8, but I suppose what lies "under the hood" is still the same. > > BTW Keymap 1.5 has a new Logic 8 Integration feature which looks > really handy (among many other new features)! > > Dennis > I have lost a few instruments like String Ensemble Alto Sax Tenor Sax the pop flute pop horn pop kit . .......................... ?? Where are they gone ? Best Cyril

Cyril Blanc wrote: > I have lost a few instruments like > String Ensemble > Alto Sax > Tenor Sax > the pop flute > pop horn > pop kit . They're all here, either in the new instruments folders or in a folder called "Legacy Instruments". If you use the search function of the EXS, it should find them. Regards Sascha

I can't get my VSL string combo to play the lower octive any sugestions? Thanks, Paul Sent from my iPhone 612.280.0954

Hi Folks, I've noticed that the EXS's ability to merge programs when importing AKAI programs/samples is sometimes inaccurate, especially when some programs in the akai volume contain different tunings... this information doesn't get transferred. Can anyone shed some light on the accuracy of Chickensys translator or CDXtract in this regard? Do they do it right, or miss these fine details also? Many Thanks! Dave.

At 09:33 PM 9/24/2007, you wrote: >I've noticed that the EXS's ability to merge programs when importing >AKAI programs/samples >is sometimes inaccurate, especially when some programs in the akai >volume contain different >tunings... this information doesn't get transferred. > >Can anyone shed some light on the accuracy of Chickensys translator >or CDXtract in this >regard? Do they do it right, or miss these fine details also? AFAIK, Translator (the company I'm associated with) takes all factors into account. In an Akai, when you load a Volume at one time, every program has a MIDI Channel number and a Program Number. Think of them as a matrix - you have 16 MIDI Channels and 128 Program Numbers. If Programs share a MIDI Channel and the same Program Number, they'll play "stacked" - layered on top of each other. Sometimes these things are programmed on purpose, for example drum kits. The programmer will program the toms as one Program, cymbals as another, etc. Then he'll put them all on the same MIDI/Program number and layer them. (In certain cases, the programmer DIDN'T intend to stack them, so Translator gives you the ability to turn the stacking feature off.) Mostly the reason for this is organization, but also for expanding the amount of modulation control you can have. (One wishes you could do this with EXS!) Anyway, the least I can say for Translator is that for every sample reference (a Zone), Translator calculates the full amount of tuning that can be applied to the sample, and then applies it to the EXS Zone (generally) that is manufactured. This can be MANY offsets. There are a few - Zone, Keygroup, Sample, Program, Global chromatic, and I think a couple more. Throw in Transpose and there's more. So really it doesn't mattered if things are layered or not - any Sample (Zone) is affected in a constant manner with tuning. it's just that there's A LOT of tuning parameters. So, when Programs are layered like this, all Translator does is "keep the meter running" - it keeps calculating more sample references and doesn't write the EXS until it's through going through the whole Volume. (It also takes into account if the MIDI Channel is OMNI.) There are some real gotchas regarding the way Akai stores tuning values, so I'm not surprised that EMagic didn't get it right in the short time they must have spent programming their version. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

Thanks for that Garth. The "gotchas" I'm experiencing are intentionally layered volumes from Quantum Leap Guitars and Bass. Some of the Acoustic patches have 5 "layered" programs in the one akai volume. But one of those layers is detuned by -3 semitones (it's a guitar bend). If I import the individual programs into EXS you can see that particular program has it's Tune parameter set to -3 in the EXS main panel. But when the Akai importer merges the programs together that information is (understandably) lost because it was applied to the program, not the zone. Thus, when I press the key at full velocity to squeeze out that nice bend it plays 3 semitones too high! So, if programs like Translator can calculate that and apply it to the samples in that zone... fantastic! Thankfully I still have an Akai S2000 so I can dig into the parameters to find out when things don't sound right, but it's obviously much better to just get the conversion right in the first place. Cheers! Dave.

Hello EXS folk, At the Bolder Sounds site I've recently posted some FREE loops created on a Electric Sitar played against a World Music type groove at 120 bpm. They are divided into 2 categories - Chordal and Riffs. They have a bit of a Arabic / Spanish-phrygian type scale to them. Feel free to slice, dice and mutilate as you wish! This set is about 23 megabytes comprised of mono files with no effects added. Formats offered are Apple Loops, EXS 24 and Kontakt 2. Have fun! Dennis --------------------------------------- Dennis Burns Bolder Sounds Boulder Colorado http://www.boldersounds.com ----------------------------------------

And check this out: http://fast6.redmatica.com/movies/AutomapAndAutoloop.mov

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Gutierrez <yahoooo@...> wrote: > > I just picked up Autosampler and I'm digging it for the most part. > This is a rescue mission for some sounds from my older and lesser > gear. The incredible shrinking studio, etc. > > The problem now is: I've never edited so many loops in EXS24. My > clicking finger is begging for mercy. Are there any shortcuts which I > don't know about (Logic Pro 8), such as enabling all loops across all > samples/zones at once, setting the start/end/crossfade times to the > same? I can fine tune the loops after they are set, but having a > starting point for each would save a lot of time. Did you find an answer to this, Glenn? I notice "the competitor's" product (Samplit) has an autoloop function which (if it works) could potentially save a ton of time. But what about AutoSampler's sister product, "Keymap"? Seems like an awesome product... the whole Compendium bundle (which you already own part of) would kick *ss. Cheers! Dave.

On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:44 pm, daveduffusau wrote: > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Gutierrez <yahoooo@...> wrote: >> >> Are there any shortcuts which I >> don't know about (Logic Pro 8), such as enabling all loops across all >> samples/zones at once, setting the start/end/crossfade times to the >> same? I can fine tune the loops after they are set, but having a >> starting point for each would save a lot of time. > > > Did you find an answer to this, Glenn? > > I notice "the competitor's" product (Samplit) has an autoloop > function which (if it works) > could potentially save a ton of time. But what about AutoSampler's > sister product, > "Keymap"? Seems like an awesome product... the whole Compendium > bundle (which you > already own part of) would kick *ss. It would indeed kick *ss if I did this kind of thing often. But with the current exchange rate, $290 for Keymap alone just isn't worth it to me. In the end, I got very good at clicking all those little checkboxes. The new layout of the editor in Logic 8 is nice. I was hoping I had overlooked something even nicer. G

Hi Folks, I was just curious if anyone had any recommendations on settings for sampling Roland Synths. I've got an XV-5050 that I was trying to sample, but the result for one bank took 24 hours to complete and yielded a 60 gig (I sampled all the white keys at 5 velocity settings). For something like this, what would be the best compromise between file size and sound quality? Please advise. Thanks! - Sudeep

If by chance anyone downloaded the Apple Loop format of the Electric Sitar Loops and encountered an error installing them, that has been corrected. The newer version has been posted. Dennis @ Bolder

Hey, freebies rock! Thanks Dennis. :) Kerry Muzzey NY NY

Hello, I just noticed that there´s no projektmanager in Logic8 anymore. Anyone has experience in how to read in a huge EX libary and have EX know where to find the missing/related Samples for the instruments? My system needs about 4 minutes on startup to scann all EX instruments (about 300GB) and will have problems on finding releted samples when I´m loading an instrument. (there about 2 TB harddrives connected to the system). Thanxs for help! Carsten

>I just noticed that there´s no projektmanager in Logic8 anymore. >Anyone has experience in how to read in a huge EX libary and have EX know >where to find the missing/related Samples for the instruments? >My system needs about 4 minutes on startup to scann all EX instruments >(about 300GB) and will have problems on finding releted samples when I´m >loading an instrument. (there about 2 TB harddrives connected to the >system). Hi Carsten, Get EXSManager from Redmatica. It will re-link all your EXS instruments - about 100 times faster than Logic's Project Manager ever could. http://www.redmatica.com/Redmatica/ExsManager.html I have that and also their Keymap software - both incredible! Regards - Colin

> >I just noticed that there´s no projektmanager in Logic8 anymore. One more thing... You could keep Logic 7 on your system, just to use Project Manager - if you don't want to buy EXSManager. However, for the amount of samples you mentioned, I think you *should* get EXSManager.

are there any decent low cost hammond b3 vsts for logic express? Also i cant get my inst to play through midi. I can play the exs and other objects. do i have to have an environment set up to have them play? Ez Eddie D

On Sep 30, 2007, at 5:07 PM, ezeddied wrote: > are there any decent low cost hammond b3 vsts for logic express? Low cost or not, Native Instruments B4 is hands down the best IMO. Best, Andy

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Hi all. I know this question may seem fairly easy, but I just need confirmation. In terms of editing a sample in the EXS Sample Editor, how would I do that? I have a lot of samples that I would like to make clean (cutting off the high end). Also, if I wanted to make samples (for example, recording an audience; car horn, locomotive engine) for use in music production, how would I make those sounds a sample so I can make an EXS instrument? Thanks!

At the 123rd AES Convention in New York, Redmatica unveiled Keymap One V1.5, the newest entry in the Redmatica Keymap family of sampled instruments editors for Mac OSX. Keymap One 1.5 delivers the key features and workflow of the flagship Redmatica Keymap 1.5 instrument editor, including Logic 8 integration, at a groundbreaking price for users that simply do not need all the hi-end features of Keymap, but still want to use the most modern sampling environment available today. The integration with Logic is made through a new Organizer Window which shows the active editing sessions between the two applications, and instruments can be sent back and forth with a single click. The list of supported file formats includes EXS24, GarageBand, Ultrabeat (.ubs) and EXS24-Monolithic, a new format where each instrument and its samples are stored as a single file. The EXS24 format is one of the most supported formats in the industry, and directly imported by Native Instruments Kontakt, Digidesign Structure, Motu MachFive2 and Steinberg Halion. Keymap One offers a sophisticated workflow, export of the processed samples directly by drag and drop, built-in Sample and Loop editors, a Setup editor for combining and merging instruments, and extended key commands support. Keymap One provides the same powerful Autolooping functions of Keymap, so that samples can be easily looped with a minimum effort. Pricing & Availability Keymap One 1.5 is available starting today, at a suggested retail price of 100.00 Euro (roughly 150.00 USD) from the Redmatica Web Store and authorized distributors. More informations about system requirements, pdf manuals and videos can be found at www.redmatica.com. Best Regards Andrea at Redmatica

Hi I am rather new to the more in-depth functions of the EXS. I currently have LP7.2 (getting L8 tomorrow), What I would like some help with is an easy way to create a sampler instrument from a long recording by zeroing in on short sounds in the recording and dropping them on keys on the keyboard. Does this potentially have to involve the sample editor? Thank you Cris

Anyway to get a grooup buy for the Redmatica products? -Dan

Im up for this.. great idea, surely they would be interested if we got enough people together. Their full package isnt in the budget price bracket for sure....

might be best done with the redmatica product mentioned in theh adjacent post.. it has a lot more functions than EXS24 has