Hi all, I am new to this site, looks very handy!!! I have just started on Logic 7 pro. I am currently trying to load some of my sample CDs (all complete with EXS Instrument Files & AIFF Files) onto my mac. I copy the EXS insrtument files into the 'Sample instrument' folder in the logic folder, and have tried copying the relavent AIFF samples to go with it on every place I can think of to get the instrument file to see it's samples. Nothing seems to work!! It sees the samples if the CD is still in the drive, but the EXS24 cannot see the samples anywhere on the drive!! Is there any way to deal with this without getting a copy of this EXS organisation software I can see people are talking about?? I can't believe loading samples can be this hard!! Please get back to me with any thoughts. Kind regards, Timbo ;)

At 04:25 PM 8/24/2007, you wrote: >I am new to this site, looks very handy!!! > >I have just started on Logic 7 pro. I am currently trying to load some of my >sample CDs (all complete with EXS Instrument Files & AIFF Files) onto my >mac. > >I copy the EXS insrtument files into the 'Sample instrument' folder in the >logic folder, and have tried copying the relavent AIFF samples to go with it >on every place I can think of to get the instrument file to see it's >samples. Nothing seems to work!! It sees the samples if the CD is still in >the drive, but the EXS24 cannot see the samples anywhere on the drive!! > >Is there any way to deal with this without getting a copy of this EXS >organisation software I can see people are talking about?? I can't believe >loading samples can be this hard!! There is the Project Manager you can use. When you load an .exs file, the .exs file has a path embedded inside it, tell EXS24 where to find the samples. If that doesn't work, then EXS24 starts looking all over your drive(s) to find the sample file name. If it finds it, it will load it (except if it finds more then one copy, then it'll give you choice). The system was meant to be automatic with no user interaction, so if Instruments take a long time to load, it's because EXS24 is searching for the samples. I believe in most cases EXS24 automatically rewrites the .exs file to reflect the new location after it finds the samples, so such a search doesn't happen again. But you are saying that the .exs file can't find your samples no matter where you put them. There may be two problems: The sample files off your CD may have their names screwed up. Do they look like BRASS~1.aif? That means they are coming off a ISO-9660 CD and the sample files weren't burned on correctly. In Option-Preferences, there is a drop-down box called Search Samples On. Make sure this is correct. Then try it again. Make sure the samples are where you've dictated them to be. Emacs! if you keep on having problems, send me an .exs file and I'll check it out. ---------- Garth Hjelte Sampler User

Hi guys, i've got logic express (can't afford pro at the mo!) and have loads of drum machine samples that i want to use in EXSP24 but have no way of making the patches... Could someone patch the samples for me if i upload them somewhere for you to download? would really appreciate it... thanks... henry :)

>Message posted by henry oakley <henswee@hotmail.co.uk>: > >Hi guys, i've got logic express (can't afford pro at the mo!) and have loads >of drum machine samples that i want to use in EXSP24 but have no way of >making the patches... Could someone patch the samples for me if i upload >them somewhere for you to download? would really appreciate it... thanks... >henry :) What kind of budget do you have for the long time involved in doing this work? Might be cheaper to buy Logic Pro..... ;-)

henry oakley wrote: > Hi guys, i've got logic express (can't afford pro at the mo!) and have > loads > of drum machine samples that i want to use in EXSP24 but have no way of > making the patches... Could someone patch the samples for me if i upload > them somewhere for you to download? would really appreciate it... > thanks... > henry :) Is the copyright on those samples cleared? I could probably create some EXS patches for you, but I would perhaps like to use the samples myself as well (as some sort of, hm, payment) - so any copyright issues need to be cleared. In addition, what sort of a mapping do those samples require? As long as it's simple patches, only using one velocity zone, things are fairly easy. It's getting tough as soon as velocity layers are involved. Also, are they all named properly? As said, in case the copyright issue is clear, I'd probably give it a try. Regards Sascha

henry oakley wrote: > Message posted by henry oakley <henswee@hotmail.co.uk>: > > Hi guys, i've got logic express (can't afford pro at the mo!) and have loads > of drum machine samples that i want to use in EXSP24 but have no way of > making the patches... Could someone patch the samples for me if i upload > them somewhere for you to download? would really appreciate it... thanks... > henry :) It would be worth getting Keymap (from Redmatica) to do this, and any other EXS instruments you want to make. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments Sample Aid (EXS Instruments for charity)

Pete Thomas wrote: > It would be worth getting Keymap (from Redmatica) to do this, and any > other EXS instruments you want to make. Gotta agree with that. It might seem like a bit high of an initial cost if all you need is a few mapped up drums, but in case you're working with samplers on OSX (this isn't only valid for the EXS as most other samplers read/import the EXS mappings fine) and doing your own patches, Keymap is almost like a must, especially as it comes with some destructive mangling options that are beyond belief. Cheers Sascha

I don't know about mapping someone else's samples. I don't use Redmatica (though I probably should). Otherwise I'd be more willing to help. I will tell you this much, though. I just finished working on an electronic piece called "Snow Crash" (after the Neal Stevenson novel). The sound design, loops, etc. used are all home- brewed right here on the banks of the Mississippi River. If you'd like, I'll make a sample library of all the FM/digital/noisy stuff I made for it, including some vocal babbling and some REALLY MESSED UP infant crying supplied by my 1-month-old boy. If that sounds interesting, let me know.

Sounds interesting to me! Love to hear it...

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I'm selling off a couple of my synths to make room in my studio. They're old, but they each have a bunch of sounds that I have used in the past and would like to continue using, so I've decided to sample them. One of them's a percussion synth, so it wasn't difficult to get those recorded, but I'm uncertain about the other synths. Is there a general rule for what notes and ranges to record? Looking at the samples in my Logic/GarageBand collection, I see different note ranges. Some of them are sampled in whole steps (C, D, E, F#, G#, A#), some in half-octaves (C, F#), some in quarter-octaves (C, D#, F#, A). I'm inclined to go for thirds, as that seems like a commonly-used range and would result in sample sets that aren't too huge. (I'm not concerned about velocity ranges for these sounds, as most of them don't have any significant differences, other than volume, when hit harder or softer). Are there other factors I ought to consider before using this approach? Thanks! -N

Hello, I have just noticed this site which offers some EXS sounds (among others) for free - nearly 250 MB conent for the EXS only.. http://www.samplerbanks.com cheers, B.

Posted by: "Neil Marsh" Neil@AudioBoy.net audioboyma Mon Sep 3, 2007 11:58 am (PST) > I'm selling off a couple of my synths to make room in my studio. > They're old, but they each have a bunch of sounds that I have used in > the past and would like to continue using, so I've decided to sample > them. One of them's a percussion synth, so it wasn't difficult to get > those recorded, but I'm uncertain about the other synths. > > Is there a general rule for what notes and ranges to record? Looking > at the samples in my Logic/GarageBand collection, I see different note > ranges. Some of them are sampled in whole steps (C, D, E, F#, G#, > A#), some in half-octaves (C, F#), some in quarter-octaves (C, D#, F#, > A). I'm inclined to go for thirds, as that seems like a commonly-used > range and would result in sample sets that aren't too huge. (I'm not > concerned about velocity ranges for these sounds, as most of them > don't have any significant differences, other than volume, when hit > harder or softer). > > Are there other factors I ought to consider before using this > approach? > > Thanks! I'd recommend AutoSampler from www.Redmatica.com. It does this automatically. Best, NB Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) +1818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

Nick Batzdorf wrote: > I'd recommend AutoSampler from www.Redmatica.com. It does this > automatically. Defenitely a good idea. And in case it's a lot of sampling, I'd also consider their Keymap, which is nothing short but excellent for finetuning whatever patches. A few things though, in case the OP likes or prefers to do it manually: - Make sure to have long enough samples for a start. I'd say something like 4-5 seconds (of course depending on the sound). Of course, this would mean you'd have to loop them. In case you don't want to go into that, the samples need to be even longer. For synth-ish patches, I'd go for looping as they could entirely be loaded into your RAM, which is quite better for the performance. - Sample everything for a start, especially on patches that have any sort of movement in them. So, yes, if you are really getting rid of the synths, without an easy way to possibly repeat the process, sample them chromatically. You can still throw the unused files away later on. But as storage space is incredibly cheap these days, it's a good idea to have the full shebang to start with. Also, make sure to cover the broadest range possible (say, from C0 to C6). - Cut and name your samples properly. The note name should be included. I'd go for something like "Patchname_C1.aif" or so. The EXS can do some automapping by notenames contained in the filename (unfortunately it's completely broken in LogicPro 7, but maybe it's fixed in the next version). Don't use flats (b) but sharps (#) only. So a Bb becomes A#. Otherwise the EXS (and other samplers) won't automap things. - Obvious but still: It's a good idea to have some sort of a template in Logic. I would name the audio object of the track you record on as the patch and check the "use object names for recordings" box in the audio file path preferences. That way the basic file name would be right from the start. Also, of course, a MIDI track with all the notes you're going to sample is a good idea. - Once you're done with recording, cutting and what not, check out the free Loop Editor: http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/loop_editor.php It might do the looping job better than the EXS, plus it's working destructively, which means the EXS has less work to do. - As far as the actual EXS patches go: On simple sounds, you may get away fine with sample intervals of tritones, on more complexed sounds minor thirds might be a better idea and on really complexed sounds you may either go for all the white keys or chromatic. Less notes are easier to handle when doing the patch but they may degrade the sound too much. Finally, yes, if you have the money and want to support an excellent developer, the Redmatica tools are your best bet to make everything a lot easier. Regards Sascha

baci_king wrote: > I have just noticed this site which offers some EXS sounds (among > others) for free - nearly 250 MB conent for the EXS only.. > http://www.samplerbanks.com There's some excellent sounds among those. A recommended download! Many thanks! - Sascha

Am 05.09.2007 um 11:14 schrieb Sascha Franck: > The EXS can do some > automapping by notenames contained in the filename (unfortunately it's > completely broken in LogicPro 7, but maybe it's fixed in the next > version). Hm, I wasn't using EXS24 with earlier Logic versions, but this automapping based on filename seems to work as expected here. Did it work better on earlier versions? I'm using Logic 7.1.1. Ingo

Thanks for a really helpful reply, Sascha. I'm definitely saving this off and putting it on my desktop. I'm torn between doing it all manually and buying AutoSampler. The purpose of selling my keyboards is to make room in my office so I can build a voice-recording space and buy some more equipment. So to invest $140 in something I'm not likely to use afterward is a bit scary but, at the same time, it would save me weeks of work.

Ingo Debus wrote: > Hm, I wasn't using EXS24 with earlier Logic versions, but this > automapping based on filename seems to work as expected here. Did it > work better on earlier versions? > I'm using Logic 7.1.1. It *could* be the following: - It's only broken since 7.2.x (a lot of things are) - It's only broken for Intel-Macs (a lot of things are) - It's only broken for .wav files (didn't check with .aif but will later on or so) Regards Sascha

I had to replace my hard drive.I replaced the aiff files now the EXS load slowly. It seems to be looking for old files. However once I load a file the EXS seems to now know where to look for it and that file will re-load promptly, I don't want to load every file I have (thousands). Is there a way to steer the EXS to where it needs to go. Refresh doesn't do it. Jake Holmes

At 07:15 AM 4/4/2003, you wrote: >I had to replace my hard drive.I replaced the aiff files now the EXS load >slowly. It seems to be looking for old files. However once I load a file the >EXS seems to now know where to look for it and that file will re-load >promptly, I don't want to load every file I have (thousands). Is there a way >to steer the EXS to where it needs to go. Refresh doesn't do it. Jake Holmes You can use the Project Manager for this if you've got a few days to spare, or buy Redmatica's EXS Manager and have it done in a few minutes. Highly recommended for all EXS users.

On 9/17/2007 1:18:21 PM, Sean McCoy (osr@jeffnet.org) wrote: > At 07:15 AM 4/4/2003, you wrote: > > >I had to replace my hard drive.I replaced the aiff files now the EXS > load > >slowly. It seems to be looking for old files. However once I load a file > the > >EXS seems to now know where to look for it and that file will re-load > >promptly, I > don't want to load every file I have (thousands). Is there a way > >to steer the EXS to where it needs to go. Refresh doesn't > do it. Jake Holmes > > You can use the Project Manager for this if > you've got a few days to > spare, or buy Redmatica's EXS Manager and have > it done in a few > minutes. Highly recommended for all EXS users. I Agree ESX manager, should basically be included in Logic, one of the great products!!! Gary

Are instruments created in the EXS 24 in the new Logic 8 compatible/ playable/loadable with version 7? Thanks! Dennis --------------------------------------- Dennis Burns Bolder Sounds Boulder Colorado http://www.boldersounds.com ----------------------------------------

I've heard that some factory samples are deleted or relocated to a "backup folder" after the install. -Mark

On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Dennis Burns wrote: > Are instruments created in the EXS 24 in the new Logic 8 compatible/ > playable/loadable with version 7? I was told by Andrea @ Redmatica that the EXS format has not changed and there should be no problem. I see the edit window has been somewhat redesigned in the EXS of Logic 8, but I suppose what lies "under the hood" is still the same. BTW Keymap 1.5 has a new Logic 8 Integration feature which looks really handy (among many other new features)! Dennis

I just picked up Autosampler and I'm digging it for the most part. This is a rescue mission for some sounds from my older and lesser gear. The incredible shrinking studio, etc. The problem now is: I've never edited so many loops in EXS24. My clicking finger is begging for mercy. Are there any shortcuts which I don't know about (Logic Pro 8), such as enabling all loops across all samples/zones at once, setting the start/end/crossfade times to the same? I can fine tune the loops after they are set, but having a starting point for each would save a lot of time. Thanks, Glenn