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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@chickensys.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 at 9:31:42 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Transposing Samples
Message #15926
This is a reply to #15925.
At 08:35 AM 8/1/2007, you wrote: >Hey, I'm a brand new user to the EXS24, and I realise that my question is >probably a really simple and an easy thing to fix, but bare with me! > >I have a guitar sample that I'd like to use on multiple keys at multiple >tones. I've set up a single zone, ranging an octave, and put the sample as >the root key in the centre. I have successfully set this up so the sample is >indeed transposed on each key, but as I'm sure you're all aware, the length >of the sample is changed too which is an unwanted side-effect. > >Is there an easy fix for this or do I have to transpose the sample, bounce >it, change the length with the Time/Pitch machine, save the files and then >add THEM to the separate keys in EXS24? I like that solution; would be nice if you could get an original sample that was pitched higher or lower. Most multisampled things get pitched samples from the original source at about 2-3 pitches per octave. (More or less depending on your anal capacity or the need of the sound; e.g. vocals don't transpose well, while soft strings do.) Just out of interest, Tascam released a free piano instrument that is made out of just ONE piano sample! It's more for geek showing off, but it uses impulse manipulation and other techniques to "stretch" the piano sound to be legit up and down the keyboard, and also replicates an valid velocity timbre. But that takes a lot of special technology and certainly isn't applicable to the EXS24. SampleTank has a Stretch feature that is more formant based then impulse based, but it can go a fairly good job at making one sample work across a wider range of pitches. It's really cool, especially when working with vocal phrases and licks. Garth Hjelte Sampler User
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From: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 at 10:30:11 AM
Subject: [EXS] File - EXS-List-Policy.txt
Message #15927
--- EXS-Users List Policy --- -- last updated Feb/09/2004 -- This message is automatically sent out once a month to all list members, and to all new members. To unsubscribe from this list simply email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ... If you have any problems please contact the list admins: exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com ********************************************************* Since most EXS users use sample cds, companies are more than welcome to announce new sample CDs they have released. Companies are also more than welcome to announce special offers or discounts/sales they are having on sample CDs, as long as such announcements are not made excessively. To prevent the list from becoming too commercial in nature, we ask that any one person or company only post on-topic advertisements once every 60 days. Advertising any non-EXS related products will be considered spamming and will result in your advertisement being deleted, and your account being banned from the exs-users, logic-users and other related lists. If you are bundling EXS24 or sample cds with non-EXS/sample cd products we request that you first clear your message with the list admins by sending it to exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com , before sending it to the list. ******************************************************** - Please trim your quotes as much as possible - it saves a consider about of space if you don't quote entire messages unnecessarily. - YahooGroups appends several lines of text to each message, plus the list itself adds a few lines of key information to the bottom of each email. We've had a few list members start using extermely long signature lines themselves, so by the time it all adds up a 1 line email could end up with a 25+ line signature appended to it. Unfortunately we have no control over YahooGroup's own signature line. We have shortened the list's own signature, and to further reduce clutter we are asking all list members to not use an email signature of more than 5-10 lines. We also ask that you don't include too many links or advertisements, or anything else deemed offensive (such as political quotes). The list moderators will contact you at their discretion if there is a problem with your email signature. - Members who disregard these requests will be moderated and asked to correct offending messages before they can be posted to the list. - Sharing illegal samples on the list, or asking for people to trade with, is not allowed. Please be aware that we highly value intellectual property and anyone who breaks this rule will be banned. - This is an international list. All messages need to be written in English so everyone can communicate together. Please do not send messages written in other languages. - Please keep all messages sent to the list somewhat EXS/sampling related. Anything extremely off topic should be sent to Logic-OT also here on Yahoo Groups, which is our communal "Emagic off topic" list. This includes political discussions. - No Mac/PC or OS flame wars. EXS-related Mac vs PC discussions will be allowed on this list, though any individuals who fail to discuss this subject calmly and become too vicious will be removed from the list. *** All threads in this vein will need to remain on topic (directly relating to EXS). *** - We also manage several other Emagic-related mailing lists, all hosted by YahooGroups: Logic-Users, Logic-TDM, Logic-OT, and SoundDiver-Users. Simply email (list-name)-subscribe@yahoogroups.com to subscribe to any of our other lists. Thanks, the EXS-Users Admin Team exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 at 11:08:29 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Transposing Samples
Message #15928
This is a reply to #15925.
Exdy wrote: > Message posted by Exdy <mskumikostar@hotmail.com>: > > Hey, I'm a brand new user to the EXS24, and I realise that my question is > probably a really simple and an easy thing to fix, but bare with me! > > > I have a guitar sample that I'd like to use on multiple keys at multiple > tones. I've set up a single zone, ranging an octave, and put the sample as > the root key in the centre. I have successfully set this up so the sample is > indeed transposed on each key, but as I'm sure you're all aware, the length > of the sample is changed too which is an unwanted side-effect. > > Is there an easy fix for this or do I have to transpose the sample, bounce > it, change the length with the Time/Pitch machine, save the files and then > add THEM to the separate keys in EXS24? > > I'm pretty certain there's an easy solution for this that I'm missing, as I > would imagine that a lot of people require the sampler to work in this > way... Or is this too complex a thing for the EXS24 for to do on it's own? > > There's a very nice bit of software that will help you: Keymap (from Redmatica) I think this will do the pitch/time thing and then autocreate your instrument with sample on every note. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments Sample Aid (EXS Instruments for charity)
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From: Dallas Takitimu <Stragorius@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 at 6:12:39 PM
Subject: Taiko drum samples
Message #15929
I've been doing research on the web and can only find really expensive sound libraries that have taiko drums in them. Anyone know of any sample cds that don't cost the earth?
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From: Ned Bouhalassa <ned@nedfx.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 at 1:29:34 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Taiko drum samples
Message #15930
This is a reply to #15929.
On 1-Aug-07, at 7:12 PM, Dallas Takitimu wrote: > Message posted by Dallas Takitimu <Stragorius@hotmail.com>: > > I've been doing research on the web and can only find really > expensive sound > libraries that have taiko drums in them. > > Anyone know of any sample cds that don't cost the earth? How's about 56 bucks? Check it out: http://www.inspirationsounds.co.uk/acatalog/ prosamples-31-rare-ethnic-instruments.html Ned N e d B o u h a l a s s a >> http://polyfoniamusic.com <<
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From: Charlie Elgart <charlieelgart@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 at 10:48:39 PM
Subject: GROUP MIDI CHANNELS QUESTION
Message #15931
I am experiencing an issue in the 'group' section of the EXS sampler - the group is only receiving midi when set to channel 1 in the 'select by' 'm.cha.' parameter box - however, when set to channel 1 in this parameter box, samples will play triggered by ANY channel [1-16] from my controllers. I'm stumped - Thanks for help !! Charlie
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From: "Andy M." <andywanders@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 at 7:55:23 PM
Subject: [EXS] Loading the same sample more than once...
Message #15932
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to load the same sample into an EXS instrument more than once so, for example, I can have a Hi-Hat sample triggered from two different keys..? At the moment, once I load a sample it's filename disappears from the browser so it cannot be loaded again into another zone. Is there a workaround for this..? I know I can disable pitch and set the keyrange for the keys I need, but this is not practical if I want to use black keys for the hats and white keys for something else. Cheers, Andy M
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 at 2:56:07 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS multi-tracking
Message #15933
Sorry, but this didn't make it through due to Yahoo telling me my mails were bouncing, so I'm posting it again. > Michael Ruiz wrote: >> Is it possible to break out the midi note numbers in the percussion >> tracks >> to multi-tracks in Logic Pro? >> >> What i want to do is process separately the individual drums and cymbals. > > I think there's a slight misunderstanding of what exactly you want. > However, here's the usual things one can do: > > - Demix by note pitch. This will create different parts for all the > individual notes used. The downside being that it will create a new track > for each and every part on your drumtrack as well. So, assuming you have > like, say, 20 drumparts using 5 notes each, you'll end up with 100 (!) new > tracks in your arrangement. I can't understand why, but this is so utterly > stupid I could never even believe it. Yet, nobody has ever bothered about > it. Anyways, when doing so, the best idea would be to glue all the > drumparts together before splitting them. > > - With those splitted drumparts you could now route each of them to an EXS > instance of its own. > > - Using a Mapped Instrument. You would just use that one in your > arrangement, set up the required outputs in the Mapped Instrument and then > cable them to EXS instances of their own. The advance beng that you could > still only use one drumtrack in your arrangement while everything gets > played by a separate EXS. Note for users of older Logic versions: This is > only possible in realtime (for instance, while tracking) since Logic 7. > > - Edit your EXS patches so they can use multiple outputs. You'd open the > EXS editor, route the zones of one instrument (say, your hihats) to a > group (that you may have to create) and set that group to whatever output > you like (note: You may need to activate "EXS Outputs" from the "View" > menu). > When done with that, you select the EXS as a multichannel instrument. > After that, you would create aux objects in your environment and select > the appropriate outs (that you assigned in your groups in the EXS editor) > as inputs. > With this method, you'd be able to play everything through one drumtrack > and one single EXS instance, yet have individual instrument access for > mixing purposes. > The downside of this method being that all the adjustments you're doing on > the EXS user interface would still be valid for all the instruments in the > drumkit. > > As you may see, each method has its pros and cons, so you may probably > want to go for a mixed approach. > > Regards > Sascha
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From: "saschafranck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 at 3:06:25 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Loading the same sample more than once...
Message #15934
This is a reply to #15932.
Andy M. wrote: > > Can anyone tell me if it's possible to load the same sample into an > EXS instrument more than once so, for example, I can have a Hi-Hat > sample triggered from two different keys..? > > At the moment, once I load a sample it's filename disappears from the > browser so it cannot be loaded again into another zone. Is there a > workaround for this..? Yes. Actually there's two workarounds. 1) Switch off "filter used" in the EXS' file loading dialog and you'll see all the samples you're using already. 2) Copy the zone already using the sample. The usual copy/paste commands are working just fine. I would also set up a keycommand for "move zones left/right with root key", so you can instantly move the copied zone in order to avoid later confusion. I'm using Ctrl + (left/right) Arrows and it suits me fine. Regards Sascha
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From: Paul Najar <pnajar@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 at 12:29:13 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Loading the same sample more than once...
Message #15935
This is a reply to #15932.
On 13/08/2007, at 10:55 AM, Andy M. wrote: > Can anyone tell me if it's possible to load the same sample into an > EXS instrument more than once so, for example, I can have a Hi-Hat > sample triggered from two different keys..? > > At the moment, once I load a sample it's filename disappears from the > browser so it cannot be loaded again into another zone. Is there a > workaround for this..? Just guessing but try copy/ paste of the sample zone you want. It should paste back onto the same key range but then you can move it? Regards ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: "Andy M." <andywanders@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 at 7:18:17 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Loading the same sample more than once...
Message #15936
This is a reply to #15935.
Thanks very much for the replies guys. :-) Cheers, Andy M.
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From: qasim Naqvi <qasimnaq@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 at 3:27:14 PM
Subject: vienna presets
Message #15937
does anyone know of a free online resource for the exs-24 and vienna samples. for example free presets or screen shots of usefull configurations for vienna samples and exs?
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From: Rob Drysdale <rob.drysdale@jemca.toyota.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 at 3:34:17 AM
Subject: EXS and REX files
Message #15938
I am currently using Logic Pro 7.2.1 and I'm using Recycle. When trying to create a new EXS instrument using REX files it greys out the option. Is there an software update I need?
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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@chickensys.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 at 9:38:39 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS and REX files
Message #15939
This is a reply to #15938.
At 03:34 AM 8/16/2007, you wrote: >I am currently using Logic Pro 7.2.1 and I'm using Recycle. When trying to >create a new EXS instrument using REX files it greys out the option. Is >there an software update I need? I would think that Logic installs the Shared Lib (a file/system that allows extraction of Recycle slices); but maybe not. Go to www.propellerhedas.se, click Downloads, Miscellaneous Updates, and REX Shared Library updates. Garth Hjelte Sampler User
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 at 6:06:21 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS and REX files
Message #15940
This is a reply to #15938.
Rob Drysdale wrote: > I am currently using Logic Pro 7.2.1 and I'm using Recycle. When trying to > create a new EXS instrument using REX files it greys out the option. Is > there an software update I need? Did you try to place the rx2 file inside your sample instruments folder? In that case, the EXS should see and convert it automatically. You could later on delete the original rx2 file or keep it for future reference. Regards Sascha
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From: "??????" <bassjunkie8@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 at 10:22:02 AM
Subject: [EXS] Missing EXS instruments.
Message #15941
I've just transfered all my sounds onto a new machine (Mac Pro 2.33 dual core), My old system was built up to Logic 7.2 off of upgrades from as early as Logic 5. My samples in the old system were kind of scattered due to the different ways that Logic dealt with samples thru the each revision. Anyway I'm doing a new clean install of 7.2 and having issues getting all my stuff to gel. I had an Akai samples folder created from importing off of Sample CDs. When making the transfer I realized i dont have the CD ROMs any more to reimport them into Logic, But I do have the .Aif files created by Logic on the import. As a quick fick I went thru and made new instruments from all my .AIF drum samples from the Akai foler (mostly dance mega drums stuff) When I created them they showed up in the EXS browser fine complete with all my subfolder organizations. After Coming back to the machine (after reboot) Only One (1 !!) of the drum kits shows up while the many other drum kit instruments were not to be scene. All searches with project manager give me nothing. It sees everything there just fine but has many samples it can't place. In the Finder all the instrument files are greyed out (not selectable) and are labeled just "Logic Pro File", while the one that shows up in EXS shows it as EXS instrument file. All these instruments were created at the same time (in one 2 hour session of fun! not) All samples are there, but the instrument files got messed up... Anyone? PS thanx for listening to my saga S
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org>
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 at 11:06:19 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Missing EXS instruments.
Message #15942
This is a reply to #15941.
At 08:22 AM 8/18/2007, you wrote: >I've just transfered all my sounds onto a new machine (Mac Pro 2.33 >dual core), My old system was built up to Logic 7.2 off of upgrades >from as early as Logic 5. My samples in the old system were kind of >scattered due to the different ways that Logic dealt with samples thru >the each revision. Anyway I'm doing a new clean install of 7.2 and >having issues getting all my stuff to gel. I had an Akai samples >folder created from importing off of Sample CDs. When making the >transfer I realized i dont have the CD ROMs any more to reimport them >into Logic, But I do have the .Aif files created by Logic on the >import. As a quick fick I went thru and made new instruments from all >my .AIF drum samples from the Akai foler (mostly dance mega drums stuff) >When I created them they showed up in the EXS browser fine complete >with all my subfolder organizations. After Coming back to the machine >(after reboot) Only One (1 !!) of the drum kits shows up while the many >other drum kit instruments were not to be scene. All searches with >project manager give me nothing. It sees everything there just fine but >has many samples it can't place. In the Finder all the instrument >files are greyed out (not selectable) and are labeled just "Logic Pro >File", while the one that shows up in EXS shows it as EXS instrument >file. All these instruments were created at the same time (in one 2 >hour session of fun! not) All samples are there, but the instrument >files got messed up... > >Anyone? This is a job for Redmatica's EXS Manager. There are few re-linking problems it can't solve, and it's lightning fast. http://www.redmatica.com/Redmatica/ExsManager.html
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From: Paul Belbin <paulbelbin@tiscali.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 at 3:45:25 PM
Subject: Noisy Macs
Message #15943
I own an imac G5 and hve recently bought a Samson CO3U USB MIC - there is massive background noise! I really did n't think my MAC was that noisy. I have tried moving the MIC further away from the MAC but apart from moving the MAC out the room ANY ideas!? Paul
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 at 3:43:24 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Missing EXS instruments.
Message #15944
This is a reply to #15941.
?????? wrote: > I've just transfered all my sounds onto a new machine (Mac Pro 2.33 > dual core), My old system was built up to Logic 7.2 off of upgrades > from as early as Logic 5. My samples in the old system were kind of > scattered due to the different ways that Logic dealt with samples thru > the each revision. Anyway I'm doing a new clean install of 7.2 and > having issues getting all my stuff to gel. I had an Akai samples > folder created from importing off of Sample CDs. When making the > transfer I realized i dont have the CD ROMs any more to reimport them > into Logic, But I do have the .Aif files created by Logic on the > import. As a quick fick I went thru and made new instruments from all > my .AIF drum samples from the Akai foler (mostly dance mega drums stuff) > When I created them they showed up in the EXS browser fine complete > with all my subfolder organizations. After Coming back to the machine > (after reboot) Only One (1 !!) of the drum kits shows up while the many > other drum kit instruments were not to be scene. All searches with > project manager give me nothing. It sees everything there just fine but > has many samples it can't place. In the Finder all the instrument > files are greyed out (not selectable) and are labeled just "Logic Pro > File", while the one that shows up in EXS shows it as EXS instrument > file. All these instruments were created at the same time (in one 2 > hour session of fun! not) All samples are there, but the instrument > files got messed up... > Just a thought... Is your drive full? If it is that would possibly corrupt your .exs files. (See thread on LUG). -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments Sample Aid (EXS Instruments for charity)
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From: Roman Pirie <romanp@xtra.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 at 9:34:02 PM
Subject: [EXS] Can someone email me samples from these old drum machines.
Message #15945
I actually have these samples on a sample cdrom called 'dance mega drums' but it is not reading properly. I am creating an 80's drum machine kit from the following drum machines: Oberheim DMX Oberheim DX Sequential Circuits Drumtraks Emu Drumulator Linn LM-1 Linn 9000 etc Linn Drum those sort of drum machines. In the late 80's early 90's Jamaican reggae was dominated with a sound mostly created by the Oberheim DX in the hands of 'Steely and Clevie'. This is the main reason I am putting together these sounds. To emulate this era of reggae dancehall. Yeah my akai cdrom must be scratched or something. I can load some of them but I want to make sure all the drum sounds from each machine are included in this kit. Thanks yall. Roman.
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From: "mandcmiller" <mandcmiller@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 at 10:49:10 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Can someone email me samples from these old drum machines.
Message #15946
This is a reply to #15945.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Roman Pirie <romanp@...> wrote: > > I actually have these samples on a sample cdrom called 'dance mega > drums' but it is not reading properly. I am creating an 80's drum > machine kit from the following drum machines: > Oberheim DMX > Oberheim DX > Sequential Circuits Drumtraks > Emu Drumulator > Linn LM-1 > Linn 9000 etc > Linn Drum Check out these links for starters: http://www.electrongate.com/dmxfiles/eproms.html http://www.electrongate.com/dmxfiles/linn/index.html You can also buy a $30.00 CDROM chock-full-o drum machines here: http://www.keyboardmuseum.org/d_machines/vdrums.html Matt http://www.mimomusic.com > those sort of drum machines. In the late 80's early 90's Jamaican > reggae was dominated with a sound mostly created by the Oberheim DX in > the hands of 'Steely and Clevie'. This is the main reason I am putting > together these sounds. To emulate this era of reggae dancehall. > Yeah my akai cdrom must be scratched or something. I can load some of > them but I want to make sure all the drum sounds from each machine are > included in this kit. > Thanks yall. > Roman. >
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From: Murray McDowall <murraymc@melbpc.org.au>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 at 1:56:25 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Noisy Macs
Message #15947
This is a reply to #15943.
Paul Belbin wrote: > I own an imac G5 and hve recently bought a Samson CO3U USB MIC - there is > massive background noise! > I really did n't think my MAC was that noisy. I have tried moving the MIC > further away from the MAC but apart from moving the MAC out the room ANY > ideas!? Sensitive mics and noisy computers are obviously a bad mix in a room. You can use the directional patterns of the mic to reject the computer noise to some degree but the real solution is to encase the computer in a sound absorbing box of some kind. These Isolation boxes can be bought from some places but they aren't cheap. You can also build your own out of timber and/or drywall and sound deadening materials quite cheaply but you have to maintain ventilation or your machine will run hot and fail. Having access to DVD slots and power switches etc and being able to see hard-drive lights etc are other issues. Ideally you should be able to easily open the box and access the machine and if the front panel is glass or perspex you can get visual feedback from the machine case too.
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 at 10:44:38 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Noisy Macs
Message #15948
This is a reply to #15947.
--- Murray McDowall <murraymc@melbpc.org.au> wrote: > Paul Belbin wrote: > > I own an imac G5 and hve recently bought a Samson > CO3U USB MIC - there is > > massive background noise! > > I really did n't think my MAC was that noisy. I > have tried moving the MIC > > further away from the MAC but apart from moving > the MAC out the room ANY > > ideas!? Aside from the iso box route you can try one of the new devices like the SE Reflexion Filter. They've been backordered but I'm expecting one tommorrow. I think Real Traps now makes one too. They will mount on the same mic stand as your condenser but form a nice acoustic barrier between it and your noise source. They are often recommended by Sound on Sound Magazine to anyone who's not recording vocals in a professional room. JP
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From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen <niko_s@web.de>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 at 7:55:23 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re:Can someone email me samples from these old drum machines.
Message #15949
http://www.nichtlinear.de/pubaudio/DMXlok.zip Enjoy! Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen <niko (at) nichtlinear.de> <www.nichtlinear.de>
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From: Ingo Debus <debus@cityweb.de>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 at 12:38:11 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re:Can someone email me samples from these old drum machines.
Message #15950
This is a reply to #15949.
Am 23.08.2007 um 02:55 schrieb nichtlineareaudioproduktionen: > http://www.nichtlinear.de/pubaudio/DMXlok.zip > > Enjoy! > Thanks! Ingo
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