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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 at 3:00:24 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] does the EXS stream by default?
Message #15676
This is a reply to #15672.
jf@ai.univ-paris8.fr wrote: > Global? The plug-in manual [p. 541] seems to assert they're specific: Yes, it is global. You can check for yourself. Load two EXS instances, switch virtual memory off or on on one of them, then look at the other and you'll see it has been switched as well. Regards Sascha
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From: Andris Sice <hasice@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 at 4:28:18 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Kurzweil to EXS conversion...HELP!
Message #15677
This is a reply to #15674.
On 05/12/2006, at 10:50 AM, Garth Hjelte wrote: > If you try to read a Kurzweil CD or disk in a computer (PC > or Mac), it won't read it's directory, because the Kurzweil format is > different then a standard computer disk format. Does this mean someone's selling Kurzweil disks? Where d'ya get 'em? Andris
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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@chickensys.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 at 5:39:36 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Kurzweil to EXS conversion...HELP!
Message #15678
This is a reply to #15677.
At 04:28 PM 12/5/2006, you wrote: > > If you try to read a Kurzweil CD or disk in a computer (PC > > or Mac), it won't read it's directory, because the Kurzweil format is > > different then a standard computer disk format. > >Does this mean someone's selling Kurzweil disks? Where d'ya get 'em? Sweetwater still sells quite a few; I sure you'd have to call them, you wouldn't see it on their site or catalogs. I think Ilio still has stock of theres. I'd also mention the "e" word (they do auctions) but it's all Barbary Coast there, so I don't recommend that. Also try Pyramid Sounds - www.pyramid-sound.com Garth Hjelte Sampler User
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From: David Pelletier <studiopelletier@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 at 6:00:59 PM
Subject: EXS24 Stuttering
Message #15679
Hi. I am the banleader and bassist of Cirque du Soleil's Alegria. We are using Logic Pro on stage with mainly the EXS24. On my station (Powermac G5 Dual 2 GHz, 4 GB ram (8 X 512MB), OS 10.3.9, Logic Pro 6.4.3, M-Audio Firewire 410, driver 1.5), I use the EXS24 to trig long audio files that we call "sequences" with a Roland PK-5 bass pedal. In many cases these audio files are layered and use different outputs via groups/AUX, and vary from a few seconds to up to 7 minutes, depending on the songs. The whole show is loaded in one Logic song. I have about 15 EXS24 loaded, so 15 tracks in the arrange. Activity Monitor reports that about 2.2 GB are used on the 4 GB available. No virtual memory (streaming) is used. This system has worked flawlessly for 692 shows to this date (which represents about two years of shows). But in the past 3 weeks I've had 3 glitches (in about 30 shows), more like stuttering in fact. Audio drops out in the middle of the file playback, stutters a bit, and comes back on as if nothing happened, but when it happens I have to stop and retrig, because the time goes off. So it's really a stuttering and not just a sound drop out. Glitches are random, never in the same file playback. I have 2 theories, one being the audio interface acting up (but that wouldn't explain the stuttering i think), and the other would be ram slowly going bad (but then i would likely get a kernel panic...) Any ideas? It's very hard to trouble shoot this one...
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From: Georgio <georgioschultz@macpunk.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 at 9:24:20 PM
Subject: EXS24II instrument change
Message #15680
Hello Mr. Whizzkid in Logic ;) My problem is that while playing my song, suddenly my instrument jumps to a another instrument. not to the one before or afther but a different one. I can't find any changes in the event list or track automation window....... what could be this problem? i think it's a bank change or something but how can i monitir/undo this? thanks 4 your time, Georgio Schultz (the Netherlands)
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 at 9:39:22 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS24II instrument change
Message #15681
This is a reply to #15680.
On Dec ,19, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Georgio wrote: > My problem is that while playing my song, suddenly my instrument > jumps to a > another instrument. not to the one before or afther but a different > one. I > can't find any changes in the event list or track automation > window....... > what could be this problem? i think it's a bank change or something > but how > can i monitir/undo this? Here's what I bet is happening: * You have a key command set for next/previous plugin setting * You have some midi remote command assigned to it * And you have midi remote enabled This would explain "non linerar" EXS program changes happening unexpectedly. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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From: syvalia hyman <valbeatz@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 at 5:25:23 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS24 Stuttering
Message #15682
This is a reply to #15679.
On Dec 19, 2006, at 7:00 PM, David Pelletier wrote: > Message posted by David Pelletier <studiopelletier@mac.com>: > > Hi. I am the banleader and bassist of Cirque du Soleil's Alegria. > We are > using Logic Pro on stage with mainly the EXS24. > > On my station (Powermac G5 Dual 2 GHz, 4 GB ram (8 X 512MB), OS > 10.3.9, > Logic Pro 6.4.3, M-Audio Firewire 410, driver 1.5), I use the EXS24 > to trig > long audio files that we call "sequences" with a Roland PK-5 bass > pedal. In > many cases these audio files are layered and use different outputs via > groups/AUX, and vary from a few seconds to up to 7 minutes, > depending on the > songs. > > The whole show is loaded in one Logic song. I have about 15 EXS24 > loaded, so > 15 tracks in the arrange. Activity Monitor reports that about 2.2 > GB are > used on the 4 GB available. No virtual memory (streaming) is used. > > This system has worked flawlessly for 692 shows to this date (which > represents about two years of shows). But in the past 3 weeks I've > had 3 > glitches (in about 30 shows), more like stuttering in fact. Audio > drops out > in the middle of the file playback, stutters a bit, and comes back > on as if > nothing happened, but when it happens I have to stop and retrig, > because the > time goes off. So it's really a stuttering and not just a sound > drop out. > Glitches are random, never in the same file playback. > > I have 2 theories, one being the audio interface acting up (but that > wouldn't explain the stuttering i think), and the other would be > ram slowly > going bad (but then i would likely get a kernel panic...) > > Any ideas? It's very hard to trouble shoot this one... actually your issue maybe be related to hard drive fragmentation. even though os x is "supposed to" do some low level defraging. try tech tool pro, but make sure you back everything up first good luck val
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From: David Pelletier <studiopelletier@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 at 3:12:45 PM
Subject: Re: EXS24 Stuttering
Message #15683
This is a reply to #15682.
Well, as i said, the ESX is not streaming. Everything is loaded into the ram. We do not use virtual memory. And the last time the stuttering occured, it was a two show day and it happened in the 2nd show. The file played fine in the first show. We do have Techtool, so i will run it anyways. Everything is fully backed up on a spare G5, and that G5 is cloned on a LaCie drive. I will also test the ram with Rember. I still think it's a ram/bus or audio interface problem. One thing though that has crossed my mind...the Logic song that contains all the samplers was created in Logic 7, and used in Logic 6.4.3 in the show. We do get that nagging message saying to upgrade to Logic 7 because it could cause problems everytime we open the song.
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From: BOBBY DOUGLAS <TIPHUN@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 at 10:39:54 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: EXS24 Stuttering
Message #15684
This is a reply to #15683.
David Pelletier wrote: >Message posted by David Pelletier <studiopelletier@mac.com>: > >Well, as i said, the ESX is not streaming. Everything is loaded into the ram. We do not use virtual memory. And the last time the stuttering occured, it was a two show day and it happened in the 2nd show. The file played fine in the first show. > >We do have Techtool, so i will run it anyways. Everything is fully backed up on a spare G5, and that G5 is cloned on a LaCie drive. I will also test the ram with Rember. > >I still think it's a ram/bus or audio interface problem. > >One thing though that has crossed my mind...the Logic song that contains all the samplers was created in Logic 7, and used in Logic 6.4.3 in the show. We do get that nagging message saying to upgrade to Logic 7 because it could cause problems everytime we open the song. Cover all your basses Dave. I'd do the upgrade to 7 right away......Bobby D.
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From: Fernstudio <fernstudio@telus.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 at 9:50:20 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: EXS24 Stuttering
Message #15685
This is a reply to #15684.
Hi, On 20-Dec-06, at 8:39 PM, BOBBY DOUGLAS wrote: > > Cover all your basses Dave. I'd do the upgrade to 7 right > away......Bobby D. > While not a bad suggestion, I'd take this one as more of a last resort. The problem may go away and may not. By introducing a new software version, you add another variable. It used to work flawlessly on Logic 6.4.3, even though the song was created in 7. Things in computerland don't just appear randomly out of the blue when nothing is changed. When I troubleshoot, I always ask the question "what's changed and when?". I've had problems where I've begun installing new versions of things and it made things worse by me not knowing what fixed what. When I have important shows/sessions that I can't afford to have anything go down, I lock my system down. No software updates, no nothing. I only make a change when I know that that it will fix a problem. Anyhow, Dave since the spare G5 is cloned, does that one stutter? Have you tried it? I would suggest trying it. If it doesn't stutter then you may be onto something with the hardware side of things. If it does, is there something external to the computer that could potentially cause a problem (audio interface, midi interface, etc.)? In the long-term I think that upgrading to Logic 7 is probably a good idea but one that is best done when you have time to plan for and test. Best of luck. Fernstudio
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From: David Pelletier <studiopelletier@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 at 12:16:48 PM
Subject: Re: EXS24 Stuttering
Message #15686
This is a reply to #15685.
Thanks guys. Yes i thought about using the spare G5 for a while. I will do that next city. I'm on vacation right now. The thing that makes it very hard to troubleshoot is that the stuttering may not appear for another 6 months. It's a totally random thing and never happens in the same files.
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From: "Guido Bettens" <bettensguido@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 at 4:46:58 PM
Subject: [EXS] EXS and Roland
Message #15687
hi everybody, I have worked for years with my roland S-760 sampler, having a lot of Roland sampler cd's. Now I'm working more and more with EXS but I'm wondering if there's a way to load Roland files into EXS. Does anybody has experience with this? thanks a lot, best wishes Guido
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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@chickensys.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 at 5:37:26 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS and Roland
Message #15688
This is a reply to #15687.
At 04:46 PM 12/26/2006, you wrote: >I have worked for years with my roland S-760 sampler, having a lot of >Roland sampler cd's. Now I'm working more and more with EXS but I'm >wondering if there's a way to load Roland files into EXS. Does anybody >has experience with this? Translator and CDxtract can convert Roland CD's inot EXS files. www.chickensys.com/translator www.cdxtract.com For more info, on any EXS-24 subject, see logic-users.org/forums/EXS/search Garth Hjelte Sampler User
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From: bacizone <bacizone@freemail.hu>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 at 3:09:37 AM
Subject: Re: exs24 file format
Message #15689
This is a reply to #261.
Hello! I would also like to have the EXS24 MK I,II format description. Did you manage to get it? Can anyone help us in this? Thanks, Bz.
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 at 7:04:05 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: exs24 file format
Message #15690
This is a reply to #15689.
On Dec ,31, 2006, at 4:09 AM, bacizone wrote: > > > I would also like to have the EXS24 MK I,II format description. > Did you manage to get it? > > Can anyone help us in this? > The actual sampler instrument format is as proprietary format used from within Logic Pro only. There's no particular "description' for it - it's a unique format designed exclusively to work inside Logic. The samples that the sampler instrument reads/accesses on the other hand can be any or all of the standard SDll, AIFF, or WAV formats. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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From: Damon Fadjo <yesdamon@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 at 3:18:29 AM
Subject: EXSP24 driver for OS update?
Message #15691
I'm running Logic Pro 6 on a Mac G4. I just upgraded from OS 10.2 to 10.3. Now my EXSP24 (and EVP73) are not responding. These plug-ins were not included with Logic Pro and came separately. Do I need a driver update or something? How can I get these to work again? Thanks. DAMON
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From: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 at 6:31:05 AM
Subject: [EXS] File - EXS-List-Policy.txt
Message #15692
--- EXS-Users List Policy --- -- last updated Feb/09/2004 -- This message is automatically sent out once a month to all list members, and to all new members. To unsubscribe from this list simply email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ... If you have any problems please contact the list admins: exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com ********************************************************* Since most EXS users use sample cds, companies are more than welcome to announce new sample CDs they have released. Companies are also more than welcome to announce special offers or discounts/sales they are having on sample CDs, as long as such announcements are not made excessively. To prevent the list from becoming too commercial in nature, we ask that any one person or company only post on-topic advertisements once every 60 days. Advertising any non-EXS related products will be considered spamming and will result in your advertisement being deleted, and your account being banned from the exs-users, logic-users and other related lists. If you are bundling EXS24 or sample cds with non-EXS/sample cd products we request that you first clear your message with the list admins by sending it to exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com , before sending it to the list. ******************************************************** - Please trim your quotes as much as possible - it saves a consider about of space if you don't quote entire messages unnecessarily. - YahooGroups appends several lines of text to each message, plus the list itself adds a few lines of key information to the bottom of each email. We've had a few list members start using extermely long signature lines themselves, so by the time it all adds up a 1 line email could end up with a 25+ line signature appended to it. Unfortunately we have no control over YahooGroup's own signature line. We have shortened the list's own signature, and to further reduce clutter we are asking all list members to not use an email signature of more than 5-10 lines. We also ask that you don't include too many links or advertisements, or anything else deemed offensive (such as political quotes). The list moderators will contact you at their discretion if there is a problem with your email signature. - Members who disregard these requests will be moderated and asked to correct offending messages before they can be posted to the list. - Sharing illegal samples on the list, or asking for people to trade with, is not allowed. Please be aware that we highly value intellectual property and anyone who breaks this rule will be banned. - This is an international list. All messages need to be written in English so everyone can communicate together. Please do not send messages written in other languages. - Please keep all messages sent to the list somewhat EXS/sampling related. Anything extremely off topic should be sent to Logic-OT also here on Yahoo Groups, which is our communal "Emagic off topic" list. This includes political discussions. - No Mac/PC or OS flame wars. EXS-related Mac vs PC discussions will be allowed on this list, though any individuals who fail to discuss this subject calmly and become too vicious will be removed from the list. *** All threads in this vein will need to remain on topic (directly relating to EXS). *** - We also manage several other Emagic-related mailing lists, all hosted by YahooGroups: Logic-Users, Logic-TDM, Logic-OT, and SoundDiver-Users. Simply email (list-name)-subscribe@yahoogroups.com to subscribe to any of our other lists. Thanks, the EXS-Users Admin Team exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com
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From: Kynan Cooksey <getsomebiotch@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 at 1:43:31 AM
Subject: Triggering a sample to loop, by just tapping the key once
Message #15693
How do you get a sample to loop by striking the key only once? I know you can loop a wav by holding down a key, or hearing it once by highlighting "one shot". How do you toggle the loop on and off by tapping a key once for loop on, then once for loop off? Thanks in advance.
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 at 7:11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Triggering a sample to loop, by just tapping the key once
Message #15694
This is a reply to #15693.
On 5-Jan-07, at 2:43 AM, Kynan Cooksey wrote: > How do you get a sample to loop by striking the key only once? I > know you > can loop a wav by holding down a key, or hearing it once by > highlighting > "one shot". How do you toggle the loop on and off by tapping a key > once for > loop on, then once for loop off? Touch tracks - in the environment. -------------------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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From: Kynan Cooksey <getsomebiotch@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 at 1:47:10 PM
Subject: Re: Triggering a sample to loop, by just tapping the key once
Message #15695
This is a reply to #15694.
No, I'm trying to trigger samples from drum pads. I want to hit the drum pad and have the sample loop continuously, then hit the pad to stop the loop. Any ideas on how the EXS24 should be set?
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 at 2:52:19 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Triggering a sample to loop, by just tapping the key once
Message #15696
This is a reply to #15695.
On Jan ,5, 2007, at 2:47 PM, Kynan Cooksey wrote: > No, I'm trying to trigger samples from drum pads. I want to hit the > drum pad and have the sample loop continuously, then hit the pad to > stop the loop. > Any ideas on how the EXS24 should be set? You should still be able to do this with touch tracks. Instead of a midi note from a keyboard being the trigger note, it will be generated from a midi drum pad. Same principle applies. The touch track will need to be your track instrument. Set it up inside the touch tracks object so the loop you want to control corresponds to the note number the pad generates. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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From: Kynan Cooksey <getsomebiotch@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 at 3:27:15 PM
Subject: Re: Triggering a sample to loop, by just tapping the key once
Message #15697
This is a reply to #15696.
I think I see the light my friend. Create new instrument in the environment, under touch tracks. Place sample there...I believe. Going to try it now. Thanks a bunch. I'll post when it works..haha
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From: Kynan Cooksey <getsomebiotch@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 at 4:05:45 PM
Subject: Re: Triggering a sample to loop, by just tapping the key once
Message #15698
This is a reply to #15696.
Triggering an audio loop though, not a sequence. It works great for sequences, but for audio loops to just loop, how would you do that?
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 at 5:38:04 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Triggering a sample to loop, by just tapping the key once
Message #15699
This is a reply to #15698.
On Jan ,5, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Kynan Cooksey wrote: > Triggering an audio loop though, not a sequence. It works great for > sequences, but for audio loops to just loop, how would you do that? Set up an EXS instrument with your loop loaded in and trigger that through the touch tracks. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 at 3:10:45 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Triggering a sample to loop, by just tapping the key once
Message #15700
This is a reply to #15698.
Kynan Cooksey wrote: > Message posted by Kynan Cooksey <getsomebiotch@aol.com>: > > Triggering an audio loop though, not a sequence. It works great for sequences, but for audio loops to just loop, how would you do that? > In the EXS editor, each zone can be set to loop. There is a tickbox. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments Sample Aid (EXS Instruments for charity)
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