> A good bet would be Native Instruments' Kontakt, which loads EXS > instruments more or less properly. And regarding modulations and > manipulations, it's coming with a whole world more than what the > EXS has on offer. Besides more advanced features Kontakt also has one key advantage: it's still for sale and supported. There used to be the EXSp, the EXS Player, a VSTi 'lite' version of EXS that could play back instruments but not do editing. It was included with the cheaper versions of Logic and sold separately, but your chances of finding it for sale anywhere now are pretty grim since it has been so long already.

I am in the process of moving some of my hardware sample libraries over to the EXS 24. On my hardware sampler I had for example 4 different programs all assigned to the same midi channel so it would have the effect of being a multi instrument as each instrument is split across the keys where the other one ends. Now that I have converterted to the EXS24 I would have to have 4 EXS24's up to get the same effect. Is there a way that I could work from one "keyboard so to speak" so I wouldn't have to switch between 1-4? Or is there a easy way to Group EX24 programs together without having to go thru the whole mapping everything out again. A merge function? Cheers Bob

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...> wrote: > > A good bet would be Native Instruments' Kontakt, which loads EXS instruments > more or less properly. And regarding modulations and manipulations, it's > coming with a whole world more than what the EXS has on offer. > > Regards > Sascha > Hello Sascha :) Thank you for this info, I will try and google some more info and see where the program can be obtained. Kind regards, David

Does anyone have an idea if this is possible or point where the hell this is in the manual, i would appreciate it... if you load sample preset into EXS, and tweak the LFO and parameters of EXS but want to change the sample, it doesn't seem to support applying a "parameter preset" To make it clearer, if you load up a sine wave (or whatever preset) into EXS and change attack, filter and LFO to your taste, and then decide you need a square wave sound, is there a way to take the tweaked settings I made with the sine wave preset and apply the parameter changes to the square wave preset? Thanks very much in advance.

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by Bob <code__blue@...>: > > I am in the process of moving some of my hardware sample libraries over to > the EXS 24. On my hardware sampler I had for example 4 different programs > all assigned to the same midi channel so it would have the effect of being a > multi instrument as each instrument is split across the keys where the other > one ends. > Now that I have converterted to the EXS24 I would have to have 4 EXS24's up > to get the same effect. Is there a way that I could work from one "keyboard > so to speak" so I wouldn't have to switch between 1-4? Or is there a easy > way to Group EX24 programs together without having to go thru the whole > mapping everything out again. A merge function? > Cheers > Bob Hi Bob This is where the environment steps in... The easiest way is to use 4 exs24s, create a midi instrument and connect it to a chain of three transformers, with these you can split different keys to different exs24s (by note.) Midi Instrument connects to transformer A which splits the midi note (say <= X) the top output goes to an exs24 (1) and the other to another transformer (B) which splits again (say <= Y) again one output goes to an exs24 (2) and the other to another transformer (C) which splits (say <= Z) and send each output to an exs24 (3&4), this should give you; EXS24 1 <= X < EXS24 2 <= Y < EXS24 3 <= Z < EXS24 4 This will give you your keyboard splits. I know this may seem convoluted but you only need do it once, you can save a default template in your autoload and adjust it according to your needs when required. There is a lot of other things you can do in this way and create complex velocity, note and mod wheel splits accross various instrument plugins. Hope this helps, Mike

Posted by: "Bob" forums@logic-users.org lug_forums Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:07 pm (PST) > Message posted by Bob <code__blue@hotmail.com>: > > I am in the process of moving some of my hardware sample libraries > over to > the EXS 24. On my hardware sampler I had for example 4 different > programs > all assigned to the same midi channel so it would have the effect > of being a > multi instrument as each instrument is split across the keys where > the other > one ends. > Now that I have converterted to the EXS24 I would have to have 4 > EXS24's up > to get the same effect. Is there a way that I could work from one > "keyboard > so to speak" so I wouldn't have to switch between 1-4? Or is there > a easy > way to Group EX24 programs together without having to go thru the > whole > mapping everything out again. A merge function? > Cheers > Bob Mike Taylor gave you one way, but another is simply to create a new program in the editor, then open the editors for all four programs you want to combine. Then Select All in each of the four and paste everything into the new program. Set the zone limit for each Group that gets created, save the new combined program, and you're done. You can also switch between the four (or five, or 25) Groups using keyswitches, controllers, velocity, or anything else just by setting the zone parameters. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

From: "remixvillain" forums@logic-users.org lug_forums: > Does anyone have an idea if this is possible or point where the hell > this is in the manual, I would appreciate it.. If you load sample preset > into EXS, and tweak the LFO and parameters of EXS but want to change the > sample, it doesn't seem to support applying a "parameter preset". To make > it clearer, if you load up a sine wave (or whatever preset) into EXS > and change attack, filter and LFO to your taste, and then decide you > need a square wave sound, is there a way to take the tweaked settings > I made with the sine wave preset and apply the parameter changes > to the square wave preset? Thanks very much in advance. Well, in your example you could just replace the sine wave with a square wave in the EXS Edit window and Save As a new instrument, but I assume you might also want to do this with more complex Sampler Instruments without having to go through the hassle of using the EXS Edit window.. This question comes up periodically - here's a post I made a while back that explains how to do it.. First off, you need to be clear on the two different ways to store parameter settings in EXS.. - Parameters can be set and saved to the Instrument preset (saved via the "Save settings to instrument" in the Options menu on the right side of the EXS GUI, and accessed from the big, central pulldown menu in the EXS GUI).. - The same parameter settings can be saved as a "Setting", from the small pulldown menu on the upper left of the EXS GUI. You'll need to use Settings to do what you want.. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * RePost * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * When you save an EXS "Setting" it's attached to the Instrument (complete with samples) that it references, so when you load the Setting the Instrument/Samples are also automatically loaded. To apply a Setting to a *different* Instrument, you have to do the following.. - Save a Setting you want to re-use (Let's call it Setting A) - Load up a different Instrument you want to apply that Setting to - In the Options submenu (right side EXS GUI) choose the menu option "Delete settings from instrument" - Choose "Save instrument as" from the same submenu and give it a new name (let's call it Instrument A) - Load Setting A - this will blow out the Instrument you just saved (Instrument A), but that's ok - Now load Instrument A. Normally this would blow out the Setting and Instrument currently loaded, but since you just saved Instrument A with no settings, only the Instrument will be blown out, and the new Setting (Setting A) will remain loaded along with Instrument A - Now you can save the settings from Setting A to Instrument A via the EXS GUI Options submenu with "Save settings to instrument" - You can also save this new Instrument A with Setting A as a new Setting, with "Save Setting as" from the Settings submenu (left side EXS GUI) - this will create a Setting which references/loads Instrument A It's a bit of a kludge, but it's much easier to do than to describe - once you get the routine down it's pretty quick.. Perhaps someday Apple will implement the ability to save/load or copy/paste *just* a Setting without its associated Instrument, which would make this process a little less ass-backward.. ;-) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * End RePost * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Cheers, Joe Albano ROOFTOP PRODUCTIONS NYC NY Music Production : http://www.rooftopproductions.com Freelance/Consult : http://www.rooftopproductions.com/Consulting.html

>Message posted by Bob <code__blue@hotmail.com>: > >I am in the process of moving some of my hardware sample libraries over to >the EXS 24. On my hardware sampler I had for example 4 different programs >all assigned to the same midi channel so it would have the effect of being a >multi instrument as each instrument is split across the keys where the other >one ends. >Now that I have converterted to the EXS24 I would have to have 4 EXS24's up >to get the same effect. Is there a way that I could work from one "keyboard >so to speak" so I wouldn't have to switch between 1-4? Or is there a easy >way to Group EX24 programs together without having to go thru the whole >mapping everything out again. A merge function? Nick Batzdorf's suggestion is great for simple splits. If, in addition, you want to layer multiple programs easily, take a look at CDXtract: http://www.cdxtract.com/cdxtract.php (there's a demo too) This is a great app which allows you to convert to EXS24 from sampler formats/CD-ROM's as well as combine programs. Regards - Colin

Don't you forget that Keymap from [http://www.redmatica.com/] is intended to greatly simplify such re-assemblies: maybe you should wait for a few days or weeks...

Both my boss and I encountered this problem today in both of our Logic Setups. The EXS instruments randomly stoped working. They were still loaded, but would not play back any of the samples for any instrument loaded, re-loaded or new exs track. If we went into the editor for the instrument, and played on the virtual keyboard, the sample would not sound either. The only way we could get anything to work, was by editing the sample within the exs editor and playing it back. After doing the individual sample playback, all the exs insturments would work again. BUT as soon as we hit playback button for the session, all the exs instruments stopped working. I should mention that the other AU instruments we had loaded still worked, and the midi routing we had to our PCs worked as well, so it was not a problem with the audio driver, or "zero-ed" controller problem. We re-booted the system and loaded the same session and it played back just fine. They both seem to be working at this point. This machine is a dedicated Logic Machine, there is no other software on it, other than Native Instruments, and various other plugins. The Two Systems: G5 8gbRam 2ghz OSX 4.7 Logic 7.2.2 RME FireFace800 MacBookPro 2ghz, 2gbRam OSX 4.8 Logic 7.2.3 M-Audio 410 Please let me know if you've had this problem as well and if there is anything we can do to fix it. Thanks.

>Don't you forget that Keymap from [http://www.redmatica.com/] is >intended to greatly simplify such re-assemblies: maybe you should >wait for a few days or weeks... Hmmm I wish Andrea from Redmatica would tell us when Keymap will be ready. I've been waiting for ages......

Does the EXS stream by default or do you have to activate it manually? If so, how? TIA Andris

Andris Sice wrote: > Does the EXS stream by default or do you have to activate it manually? > If so, how? It doesn't. You have to activate "virtual memory" in the options pulldown. The bad thing being that this is a global setting, whereas it'd be *way* better if it was a per patch one (the way, say, Kontakt 2 is doing things). That way, smaller patches would cause a lot less CPU stress when pitching is involved and larger patches could still take advance of fast harddrives. Regards Sascha

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On 01/12/2006, at 10:52 PM, Sascha Franck wrote: > Andris Sice wrote: >> Does the EXS stream by default or do you have to activate it manually? >> If so, how? > > It doesn't. You have to activate "virtual memory" in the options > pulldown. > The bad thing being that this is a global setting, whereas it'd be > *way* > better if it was a per patch one (the way, say, Kontakt 2 is doing > things). > That way, smaller patches would cause a lot less CPU stress when > pitching is > involved and larger patches could still take advance of fast > harddrives. Thanks Sascha. Strange. I've been using Logic for a while now and (to my alarm) only realized recently that the EXS might not be streaming. I'll activate it immediately. Hopefully I'll get fewer overload messages... Andris

Posted by: "Andris Sice" hasice@bigpond.net.au andyxvi Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:20 pm (PST) > Does the EXS stream by default or do you have to activate it manually? > If so, how? I'm sure you'll get lots of people answering this, but you have to turn it on. It's called virtual memory, and it's under the Options button on any EXS. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

Hi, My first time on the forum......I joined up because I sniffed the possibility of actually solving this issue: I simply want to extract the contents of my Kurzweil K2000R and access them via the EXS 24. I have a Mac G4 which has a SCSI card fitted, and connected the K2000R to it, thinking I'd see it on the desktop as a volume / Drive / whatever....that's where the trail ran out........if anyone has any advice for me, I'd be very grateful indeed...... Plinthchimp (PT) Hertfordshire, England

At 04:16 PM 12/2/2006, you wrote: >My first time on the forum......I joined up because I sniffed the >possibility of actually solving this issue: I simply want to extract >the contents of my Kurzweil K2000R and access them via the EXS 24. I >have a Mac G4 which has a SCSI card fitted, and connected the K2000R >to it, thinking I'd see it on the desktop as a volume / Drive / >whatever....that's where the trail ran out........if anyone has any >advice for me, I'd be very grateful indeed...... You can do this with Translator www.chickensys.com or CDxtract www.cdxtract.com - both are commercial program those (not free) but are very helpful in the long run for many things. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

I belive getting your hands on a kontakt sampler from NI that imports battery kits, saving them as a kontakt kit, then using cdxtrakt to convert it from kontakt to exs. It should work... in theory... /emser

> At 04:16 PM 12/2/2006, you wrote: > > >My first time on the forum......I joined up because I sniffed the > >possibility of actually solving this issue: I simply want to extract > >the contents of my Kurzweil K2000R and access them via the EXS 24. I > >have a Mac G4 which has a SCSI card fitted, and connected the K2000R > >to it, thinking I'd see it on the desktop as a volume / Drive / > >whatever....that's where the trail ran out........if anyone has any > >advice for me, I'd be very grateful indeed...... > 3 dec 2006 kl. 03.37 skrev Garth Hjelte: > You can do this with Translator www.chickensys.com or CDxtract > www.cdxtract.com - both are commercial program those (not free) but > are very helpful in the long run for many things. > > Garth Hjelte > Sampler User and it works great :) m

On 03/12/2006, at 1:37 PM, Garth Hjelte wrote: >> My first time on the forum......I joined up because I sniffed the >> possibility of actually solving this issue: I simply want to extract >> the contents of my Kurzweil K2000R and access them via the EXS 24. I >> have a Mac G4 which has a SCSI card fitted, and connected the K2000R >> to it, thinking I'd see it on the desktop as a volume / Drive / >> whatever....that's where the trail ran out........if anyone has any >> advice for me, I'd be very grateful indeed...... > > You can do this with Translator www.chickensys.com or CDxtract > www.cdxtract.com - both are commercial program those (not free) but > are very helpful in the long run for many things. I'd be interested in doing this too. How would you move the samples from the K2000R to the computer? Andris

>The bad thing being that this is a global setting Global? The plug-in manual [p. 541] seems to assert they're specific: >Preferences opens a window with preferences for each Sampler Instrument (see "Preferences" section, from page 558 onwards). I haven't checked this personally: maybe it's yet another error, or the manual isn't up to date and this isn't true any longer!

Hi there, I hope it's ok to announce that our very popular Kontakt 2 instrument , the KIM, is now available is EXS24 format : http://www.soniccouture.com/pages/downloads-kim.htm The Kim is a type of dulcimer or zither from Thailand, and is related to the Chinese yangqin. It is sometimes spelled khim. The Kim consists of a flat soundbox with 42 wire strings stretched across in 14 sets of 3. The courses are struck with two thin bamboo mallets with soft leather tips. The Kim was sampled at 24 bit /44.1 and contains 184 MB - 137 separate unlooped samples. Each note was sampled individually with 4 velocity layers, twice, to give an extremely natural, expressive response. Thanks!

At 05:01 PM 12/4/2006, you wrote: > >> My first time on the forum......I joined up because I sniffed the > >> possibility of actually solving this issue: I simply want to extract > >> the contents of my Kurzweil K2000R and access them via the EXS 24. I > >> have a Mac G4 which has a SCSI card fitted, and connected the K2000R > >> to it, thinking I'd see it on the desktop as a volume / Drive / > >> whatever....that's where the trail ran out........if anyone has any > >> advice for me, I'd be very grateful indeed...... > > > > You can do this with Translator www.chickensys.com or CDxtract > > www.cdxtract.com - both are commercial program those (not free) but > > are very helpful in the long run for many things. >I'd be interested in doing this too. >How would you move the samples from the K2000R to the computer? The programs above don't communicate with the Kurzweil ITSELF, but the disks. If you try to read a Kurzweil CD or disk in a computer (PC or Mac), it won't read it's directory, because the Kurzweil format is different then a standard computer disk format. The programs above are designed to read these disks, and convert what they see into .exs files and WAVE/AIFF files. For example, it'll see a file called "brass.krz", and say that contains 5 Programs and 25 samples. They'll make 5 .exs files and 25 sample files; each .exs file will correspond to the programming/mapping of those Kurzweil programs, and the samples will represent each sample. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

On Dec 4, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Andris Sice wrote: > On 03/12/2006, at 1:37 PM, Garth Hjelte wrote: > > >> My first time on the forum......I joined up because I sniffed the > >> possibility of actually solving this issue: I simply want to > extract > >> the contents of my Kurzweil K2000R and access them via the EXS > 24. I > >> have a Mac G4 which has a SCSI card fitted, and connected the > K2000R > >> to it, thinking I'd see it on the desktop as a volume / Drive / > >> whatever....that's where the trail ran out........if anyone has any > >> advice for me, I'd be very grateful indeed...... > > > > You can do this with Translator www.chickensys.com or CDxtract > > www.cdxtract.com - both are commercial program those (not free) but > > are very helpful in the long run for many things. > > I'd be interested in doing this too. > > How would you move the samples from the K2000R to the computer? > Andris If you are referring to "extracting" the ROM samples with loop pointers etc.... from your Kurzweil, this won't work. Even if you could, the EXS would have a very hard time reproducing the programming capabilities of a Kurzweil Kxxxx series sampler. ------------------------------------------ Dennis Burns Bolder Sounds ------------------------------------------