hello everybody, some of the Factory and XTreme samples are not being found by EXS. I can´t find where Logic saved them to. They´re not at Library > Application Support > Logic > Sampler Instruments I installed them with the Installers of the CDs. iBook G4/1GHz, Mac OSX 10.3.9, Logic Pro 7.1 Thanx Matzy

ooops, sorry for the stupid question ! Aloha Matzy

Am 25.10.2006 um 07:15 schrieb raymond: > Yup,did someone told me bout this LFO configuration to do the > Vibrato and Crescendo so..but i just wondering how to do the setting?? An empty patch for the EXS already comes up with the LFO routed to pitch (second entry in the modulation matrix). Just remove the "via Ctrl #1" entry, play a bit with the sliders next to that entry and hear waht happens... > erm..but,eventhough i'm understand the term-Controller Change..i > still don't have the idea to do the setting of the control > so..because i'm not a keyboardist..so,really not even understand > the function of it!Would you mind to give me some idea on it?or > give me a step to fulfill it?? > I'm not a keyboardist either :-) So what do you use as input device? If you do step-by-step programming, you can use Logic's hyper draw feature to program CC data. Ingo

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I have what seems to me an odd question to have to ask. I'm working on a film score and the director keeps chopping my music up. He says he likes the music. ...then he cuts bits and pieces out of it making it sound like a mess...... and when the music runs short....because he's cut bits and pieces out of the score.....then I"m supposed to rewrite....leaving the pieces chopped out.... We're doing this on almost every scene. It's like he's using it like library music. I don't get it....why hire a composer if you're going to chop the music up. I've never run into this before.....Is this common practice. I feel like I"m in the twilight zone. Some how I can't imagine Ridley Scott chopping up a Zimmer score.....? julie www.julielarson.net

At 12:23 PM 10/31/2006, you wrote: >I have what seems to me an odd question to have to ask. I'm working >on a film score and the director keeps chopping my music up. He says >he likes the music. ...then he cuts bits and pieces out of it making >it sound like a mess...... and when the music runs short....because >he's cut bits and pieces out of the score.....then I"m supposed to >rewrite....leaving the pieces chopped out.... We're doing this on >almost every scene. It's like he's using it like library music. I >don't get it....why hire a composer if you're going to chop the music >up. > >I've never run into this before.....Is this common practice. I feel >like I"m in the twilight zone. Some how I can't imagine Ridley Scott >chopping up a Zimmer score.....? From what I know from reading interviews and forums and watching the "making of" features on DVD's, this is actually very common even at the highest levels. For example, "The Phantom Menace" went through many alterations after the score was recorded, so the music editor had to do a lot of cutting, pasting and stretching to make the music fit. Ridley Scott definitely would not cut up Hans's score in an unmusical way, but he wouldn't hesitate to demand wholesale changes. It sounds like you are working with someone who has an amateurish understanding of the process, however. If he likes what you're writing and the score is still being developed, he should tell you what he likes and doesn't like and ask you to make alterations to the structure of the score to reflect that while still allowing you to sync the music logically to picture. You might want to go over to one of the forums frequented by composers to get more feedback on this. (Northern Sounds, V.I., Sanctus Angelis, etc.) Sean

> Some how I can't imagine Ridley Scott > chopping up a Zimmer score.....? Actually Mr.Scott did just this to Vangelis on his Blade Runner Score, which is why it was unreleased for so long. Obviously the person you're dealing with does not understand music composition, or the melding of image and sound. Then again, do not fall completely blind to the posibility that some of the directors ideas may have merit. Step outsite of your ego (Isay that with respect only) and have a look from the outside. Maybe this is an oportunity to reinvent your score? Then again you may discover the director is just an ass. I envy you not. Good luck Matthew

On Oct ,31, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Matthew Riley wrote: > Obviously the person you're dealing with does not understand music > composition, or the melding of image and sound. Then again, do not > fall completely blind to the posibility that some of the directors > ideas may have merit. This is good advice. Every time I have worked as a music editor, sitting with the director, I found their ideas to be unconventional - but usually with merit. They think outside the "box" because they don't really know the box. I always seem to end up looking at the cues from a different perspective afterwards and learn a little bit more each time about different ways of using them. > Step outsite of your ego (Isay that with respect only) and have a > look from the outside. Maybe this is an oportunity to reinvent your > score? I agree - it is a forced opportunity to try and shift your thinking a little about how the score can work. > Then again you may discover the director is just an ass. Yes, there can often be an element of this mixed into the equation too :-( > > I envy you not. Roger that....... good luck. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions

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>I have what seems to me an odd question to have to ask. I'm working >on a film score and the director keeps chopping my music up. He says >he likes the music. ...then he cuts bits and pieces out of it making >it sound like a mess...... and when the music runs short....because >he's cut bits and pieces out of the score.....then I"m supposed to >rewrite....leaving the pieces chopped out.... We're doing this on >almost every scene. It's like he's using it like library music. I >don't get it....why hire a composer if you're going to chop the music >up. > >I've never run into this before.....Is this common practice. I feel >like I"m in the twilight zone. Some how I can't imagine Ridley Scott >chopping up a Zimmer score.....? Julie, my sympathies to you. I have worked with many directors and though they have certainly asked for changes where appropriate or required, this has never happened to me. What your guy is doing simply shows disrespect for you as a composer, and for your music. An experienced (and polite) director may try out edits in your absence, then play you his "new cut" in order to brief you better for a more final version. It is obviously a process of growth, within limits. I always ask for a final cut of the picture whenever time allows, simply to avoid having to re-write, as this editing process disturbs one's musical form and ideas. I would have a good talk to to him and explain (as non-aggressively as possible) that what he is doing is counter-productive to your creative flow. Another solution I have found is simply to charge extra for every revision. This soon stops unnecessary or frivolous editing. :-) (Obviously this must be negotiated when you quote fees) Regards - Colin

On Nov 1, 2006, at 1:52 AM, Colin Shapiro wrote: > Julie, my sympathies to you. > I have worked with many directors and though they have certainly > asked for changes where appropriate or required, this has never > happened to me. What your guy is doing simply shows disrespect for > you as a composer, and for your music. > > An experienced (and polite) director may try out edits in your > absence, then play you his "new cut" in order to brief you better for > a more final version. It is obviously a process of growth, within > limits. I always ask for a final cut of the picture whenever time > allows, simply to avoid having to re-write, as this editing process > disturbs one's musical form and ideas. > > I would have a good talk to to him and explain (as non-aggressively > as possible) that what he is doing is counter-productive to your > creative flow. > > Another solution I have found is simply to charge extra for every > revision. This soon stops unnecessary or frivolous editing. :-) > (Obviously this must be negotiated when you quote fees) OK....thanks guys for your comments, This helps with my perspective. I suppose going through all this pain must be doing something good for me....maybe it builds character julie www.julielarson.net

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Hello Most of the libs we use, except now VSL VI, does not have the intelligence to analyse what has to be played and a Staccato notes does not have the same articulation that the Legato notes As you may now I have been working on using program changes to do my key-switches, but today there is no notion of note length in the transformer of the Environment of Logic The solution is to use the transformer of the Event List or of the Score windows There is a full description on how to do than in the file section http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/files/ the file is called : LogicPro_StaccatoandLegatonoteusingOrchestrallibraries.pdf Best Cyril ----------------------------------------------------------- My Mail is filtered by Personal Antispam. Join the Independent Quantum Leap Symphony orchestra (Q.L.S.O.) and Symphonic Choir Forum for Mac http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qlso A6 Andromeda forum : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A6_andromeda

Hi Ingo: thanks for the idea. I'm not Keyboardist as well.. I'm actually using the USB midi controller to play my strings session and use the step-by-step programming skill to fine tune everything!! What you've mention is using the Hyper Draw to program the CC data..eh,something interesting!! I may need to learn about it..do you mind to show me the step to cue my Vibrato & Crescendo strings?? I've try out the LFO routering ..but still can't get a very strong Vibrato feel...what to do on it??

I strongly advise you NOT to try to make string vibrato this way. It will sound very unrealistic. It is much better to get good sample libraries and avoid any kind of artificial pitch control. Don on 11/4/06 11:43 PM, raymond at forums@logic-users.org wrote: > Message posted by raymond <shengxiong1018@yahoo.com.sg>: > > Hi Ingo: > > > thanks for the idea. > I'm not Keyboardist as well.. > I'm actually using the USB midi controller to play my strings session and use > the step-by-step programming skill to fine tune everything!! > > > What you've mention is using the Hyper Draw to program the CC > data..eh,something interesting!! > I may need to learn about it..do you mind to show me the step to cue my > Vibrato & Crescendo strings?? > > I've try out the LFO routering ..but still can't get a very strong Vibrato > feel...what to do on it?? > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > EXS Users Group - new web forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

Don Newmeyer wrote: >I strongly advise you NOT to try to make string vibrato this way. It will > sound very unrealistic. It is much better to get good sample libraries and > avoid any kind of artificial pitch control. Defenitely seconded. Yet, if you simply don't have any of these libraries, it may help a bit to use the LFOs or whatever to add a bit of modulation. To raymond: >> I've try out the LFO routering ..but still can't get a very strong >> Vibrato >> feel...what to do on it?? What exactly are you doing? Putting aside how natural (or unnatural, for the matter...) LFOs will sound on natural string material, I can get the most strongest vibratos and tremolos imaginable from the LFOs. Do you want me to post a little sample patch, using one of the instruments coming with Logic? Regards Sascha

hi ppl! does any1 know of a program that can send out midi notes and record audio of an au plugin or synth? if so please let me know! -javo

On 17/11/06, fuzoid <forums@logic-users.org> wrote:> > Message posted by fuzoid <fuzoid@hotmail.com>: > > hi ppl! > > does any1 know of a program that can send out midi notes and record audio > of > an au plugin or synth? > > if so please let me know! > > -javo I forget the name of it, but it's made by Redmatica (redmatica.com) -- with best wishes, John http;//abram.ca

> On 17/11/06, fuzoid <forums@logic-users.org> wrote:> > > Message posted by fuzoid <fuzoid@hotmail.com>: > > > > hi ppl! > > > > does any1 know of a program that can send out > midi notes and record audio > > of > > an au plugin or synth? > > > > if so please let me know! > > > > -javo > --- John Abram <johnbabram@gmail.com> wrote: > I forget the name of it, but it's made by Redmatica > (redmatica.com) > > -- > with best wishes, > John > http;//abram.ca Hi, It's called AutoSampler. Arthur

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Hi all! I came upon your group whilst searching for info on the EXS instruments..... I wondered whether any of you might be able to share their expertise with me - I need to know how to make use of the EXS instruments outside of LAP in the Windows XP environment, rather than Apple Mac... There is one instrument in particular that I modeled which I need for one of my compositions (I'm primarily a guitarist), and there is no way I can reproduce the characteristics of that sound outside of EXS. EXS is just incredible for its modeling capabilities, but unfortunately as LAP is no longer supported on the Windows platform, there is no way to obtain fixes for the problems that arise in terms of modified drivers etc., so I am moving on to Cakewalk Sonar 6 Producer Edition, which is actually also much simpler to use than LAP. I suppose what I am really asking for is a means to make the EXS available to VSTi or similar, so that I could use it in any audio application. Unless you have any other suggestions ;). Please forgive me if this question has already been covered in your previous messages. I honestly don't have the time right now to root through all of them as I am working on a composition. Thanks to all of you in advance. David

A good bet would be Native Instruments' Kontakt, which loads EXS instruments more or less properly. And regarding modulations and manipulations, it's coming with a whole world more than what the EXS has on offer. Regards Sascha