Hi.I have a problem with the storage of EXS24 and GarageBand audio files within my external hard drive. I moved EXS audiofiles and I created alias into the folder of Instruments of GarageBand moving then all the files in the external drive. Now EXS24 sees all the files in the flip menu but for searching the EXS24 or GarageBand audio files takes a life of time. What do I do? Thanks. Excuse me for my english...

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Wild <wildjamin@...> wrote: > > > 1. Getting uniform sample lengths for each note recorded > > if you sample VIs, you have controll over start+end. > maybe you should try (instead of slicing with strip silence) to cut > the audio file into equal regions by holding ALT while using the > scissor on the first note. > just an idea, I hope this will be helpfull. > > With Compliments, > Benjamin Wild > > wildjamin.de > myspace.com/benjaminwild > > ps. > my real tip would be to use the exs as region player. > just make a program with different keyzones playing different parts > of your orginal recording. > > if you have continous material (a loop) you can copy the end of one > region to the start of the next regions (and save some time and lots > of files..) > > if you have a defined start and end point maybe you could simply > calculate the regions.. > > 0- 9999 > 10000-19999 > 19999-29999 > 29999-39999 > > just trim a region to your desired length, then adjust the tempo to > match it > (by selecting the region + setting locators, then use 'adjust tempo > to..') > 'export (your VI ) as single track' > > and give me some feedback if this works for you ! > Benjamin et al: Hey, thanks, great tips. I'm working on your suggestions today. Can you post a template here? The idea of using the EXS24 as a region player is brilliant. Any more thoughts. I'll get back to you with my results. Thanks again, J Marti

Okay. My boss and I have an EXTENSIVE collection of exs samples and custom instruments. We have over 1.5 TB of samples, that are somewhere in the neighborhood of over 3 million samples. I was looking at the redmatic samplemanager. Is this something that will work for us (we add about 500 samples a week to our library). I read somewhere that it only works with up to 4 million samples? Or is there another program/manager that might be better for us? Right now we sit for about 3 minutes while our 200+ track template opens with our various EXS libraries sit and load. It's a pain when we are switching between cues, and bouncing out for orchestration. Any sugestions (other than not being sample hogs) are greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Themystro1

On 29.09.2006, at 01:38, Sam Estes wrote: > Okay. My boss and I have an EXTENSIVE collection of exs samples and > custom > instruments. We have over 1.5 TB of samples, that are somewhere in the > neighborhood of over 3 million samples. I was looking at the redmatic > samplemanager. Is this something that will work for us (we add > about 500 > samples a week to our library). I would not tell it to take the whole 1.5 TB just to see what happens ... You can tell it exactly what to do. You set a source and a destination folder and select the kind of organization you want from several options which you ought to understand before you go for the big stuff. You don't have to mess up your instruments while you are learning. Just copy a handful and try in a safe place. ExsManager has a lot of security built in but as with all tools you can do something good and something bad. I suggest to learn the program slowly, test with duplicated instruments in separate folders and observe what it does. If you are sure go for a group of real stuff and if you are satisfied increase the number you process at once. You don't even have to process. Just let it scan and analyze your source folders that will tell you about the performance and the condition of your samples. Hey, I feel like a sales agent! Andrea, where are you? I am not supposed to put everything right. Come and talk to your customers ;-) > Right now we sit for about 3 minutes while our 200+ track > template opens with our various EXS libraries sit and load. It's a > pain when > we are switching between cues, and bouncing out for orchestration. I find 3 minutes a good time for that scenario. ___ Peter Ostry

Hi, I'll switching from Logic to Cubase. In Logic I have thousands of EXS files, which I would like to use in Cubase with the EXSP24 sample player. In EXSP24 I can save patches only into fxp format. My question: Is it possible somewhat to convert all my EXS files into simple fxp format? I could do manual conversion patch-by-patch, but it would take weeks...

At 04:10 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote: >I'll switching from Logic to Cubase. >In Logic I have thousands of EXS files, which I would like to use in >Cubase with the EXSP24 sample player. >In EXSP24 I can save patches only into fxp format. > >My question: >Is it possible somewhat to convert all my EXS files into simple fxp format? >I could do manual conversion patch-by-patch, but it would take weeks... EXS24P can load all the .exs files you currently have. There's no need to deal with .fxp stuff. You are understanding this backwards. Past that, I don't think the .fxp's that Cubase saves really are the equivalent of an .exs file. The P in EXS24P means "player", it isn't supposed to save anything. That's the point of EXS-24 "Pro". Garth Hjelte Sampler User

On 29/9/06 9:38 AM, Sam Estes wrote: > Message posted by Sam Estes <sam@junkiexl.com>: > > Okay. My boss and I have an EXTENSIVE collection of exs samples and custom > instruments. We have over 1.5 TB of samples, that are somewhere in the > neighborhood of over 3 million samples. I was looking at the redmatic > samplemanager... Your better off using Project Manager... Only kidding! :) If EXSManager can't handle your library then nothing can. Why don't you drop Andrea an email and see what he says... michael

On Sep 29, 2006, at 4:43 AM, Peter Ostry wrote: > On 29.09.2006, at 01:38, Sam Estes wrote: > > > Okay. My boss and I have an EXTENSIVE collection of exs samples and > > custom > > instruments. We have over 1.5 TB of samples, that are somewhere > in the > > neighborhood of over 3 million samples. I was looking at the > redmatic > > samplemanager. Is this something that will work for us (we add > > about 500 > > samples a week to our library). Hello Sam, we designed ExsManager from scratch in order to handle very large libraries, and it's as optimized as you can get, and as fast as your hardware (read: your disks) will allow. To give you a rough idea, analyzing and optimizing the VSL Pro library (>0.4 million files) will take about 5 minutes with a dual G5x2 and a simple firewire400 external drive. The real problem in managing those many samples might be that that currently ExsManager is, exactly as all other OSX apps, a 32 bit application that can only address 4GB of Ram. Ram is used for storing data used for analysis, and you might hit the 4GB limit in ExsManager with your large number of files. The suggestion here is simply to "divide and conquer": split your library in 3 or 4 sublibraries (read: subfolders) and you'll be fine. Btw, OSX 10.5 "Leopard" is 64 bit so I expect this 32 bit limitation to go away in the future. > I would not tell it to take the whole 1.5 TB just to see what > happens ... > > You can tell it exactly what to do. You set a source and a > destination folder and select the kind of organization you want from > several options which you ought to understand before you go for the > big stuff. > > You don't have to mess up your instruments while you are learning. > Just copy a handful and try in a safe place. ExsManager has a lot of > security built in but as with all tools you can do something good and > something bad. > > I suggest to learn the program slowly, test with duplicated > instruments in separate folders and observe what it does. If you are > sure go for a group of real stuff and if you are satisfied increase > the number you process at once. You don't even have to process. Just > let it scan and analyze your source folders that will tell you about > the performance and the condition of your samples. Peter explained it all very nicely I'd say. > > Right now we sit for about 3 minutes while our 200+ track > > template opens with our various EXS libraries sit and load. It's a > > pain when > > we are switching between cues, and bouncing out for orchestration. > > I find 3 minutes a good time for that scenario This honestly needs a lot more details before saying "it's quick" or "it's slow". What I can say is that samplemerging your library will greatly improve loading time at the cost of more disk space used. As many VSL users here will be able to tell you, on the most complex Exs VSL instruments the load time ( with streaming enabled) went down to one third of the previous time (i.e. if it was originally taking 10 seconds, after samplemerge it becomes 3 seconds and something). > Hey, I feel like a sales agent! > Andrea, where are you? I am not supposed to put everything right. > Come and talk to your customers ;-) I'd invite Sam to contact us directly for any additional info or question, exactly because we do not want anyone in this list to feel like a sales agent, and this applies to me too :-) Best Regards Andrea at Redmatica

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--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "gary pozner" <gary@...> wrote: > > > So this morning, after reading many posts, I tried to make an > > alias of the Sampler Instruments Folder and put it in > > > > MacHD/Library/Application Support/Logic > > > > But it still doesn't > > work. > > when you make the alias make sure it just reads "Sampler Instruments" > not Sampler Instruments Alias Sorry for my recent absence, I've been away from my computer. Yes the folder is called "Sampler Instruments" and not Sampler Instruments Alias still it doesn't work

Hi All, Every time I save, Logic reloads all audio instruments. As you know with large libraries and symphonic music this can take a Loooong time not to mention the "that's not the way it's supposed to work" factor. Does anyone know the answer to this. I've re-launched, restarted, opened a new song file.... problem still there. Logic 7.1.1 Dual 2.7 G5 with 6.5 GB Thanks, julie www.julielarson.net

Are you saving as project? If you are it is the way it works, if you just do a save it shouldn't. I believe this started with Logic 7 and has continued with the worst version of Logic(the most trouble plagued version of Logic IMHB) logic 7.2 Gary On 10/2/2006 8:34:31 AM, Julie Larson (julielarson@mail.com) wrote: > Hi All, > Every time I save, Logic reloads all audio instruments. As you know

On Oct 2, 2006, at 8:49 AM, gary pozner wrote: > Are you saving as project? If you are it is the way it works, if you > just do a save it shouldn't. I believe this started with Logic 7 > and has > continued with the worst version of Logic(the most trouble plagued > version of Logic IMHB) logic 7.2 > Gary Hi Gary, Thanks for replying to my post. I'm not saving as a project. But it sounds like that's what it's doing. I guess my notion that I should upgrade to 7.2 is a bad one. That was my next step..... I'm really stumped on this one... julie www.julielarson.net

Dear Gary Pozner I am planning to upgrade (currently using logic 6.4) to 7.2. Could you tell more about "the worst version of Logic(the most trouble plagued version of Logic IMHB) logic 7.2"? Thank you Kindest regards Best Markus Kmitta

> On Oct 2, 2006, at 8:49 AM, gary pozner wrote: > >> Are you saving as project? If you are it is the way it works, if you >> just do a save it shouldn't. I believe this started with Logic 7 >> and has >> continued with the worst version of Logic(the most trouble plagued >> version of Logic IMHB) logic 7.2 >> Gary > On Oct 2, 2006, at 9:06 AM, Julie Larson wrote: > > Hi Gary, > Thanks for replying to my post. I'm not saving as a project. But it > sounds like that's what it's doing. I guess my notion that I should > upgrade to 7.2 is a bad one. That was my next step..... I'm really > stumped on this one... > > julie Julie Have you tried trashing your Logic preferences? That can help with all sorts of strange stuff. - Dave

--- Julie Larson <julielarson@mail.com> wrote: I'm not saving as a > project. Can't imagine why anyone wouldn't. Its one of my favorite Logic features. JP

Hi JP Well....it is a project. But every time I save I don't "save as a project" I just save. When I do this Logic re-loads all the audio instruments.... every time. This can take several minutes per save in a project with fat orchestration. It definitely inhibits saving www.julielarson.net

on 10/3/06 2:58 AM, Julie Larson at julielarson@mail.com wrote: > Hi JP > Well....it is a project. But every time I save I don't "save as a > project" I just save. When I do this Logic re-loads all the audio > instruments.... every time. This can take several minutes per save > in a project with fat orchestration. It definitely inhibits saving > Hi Julie, Have you thought of rebuilding the song from scratch? I know that's a lot of work, but it might end up saving you time in the long run if it works. If other songs are not behaving this way, it sounds like the problem has something to do with this particular song file. Don

Does anyone know a source for cajon samples? I found just loops but I want single hits. Freeware preferred. I think about buying a real cajon but want to try first if it fits. TIA, Peter Ostry

Le 4 oct. 06, à 01:55, Don Newmeyer a écrit : > > Have you thought of rebuilding the song from scratch? I know that's a > lot of > work, but it might end up saving you time in the long run if it works. > If > other songs are not behaving this way, it sounds like the problem has > something to do with this particular song file. Perheaps try first to "Save as …" to see if the problem still there in the new version ? I could save my job that way sometimes … I have no Logic here at the moment, so can't have a try, but it's possible that way you can save as a single song and not as a project … ? -- Gérald

>On Oct 2, 2006, at 8:49 AM, gary pozner wrote: > >> Are you saving as project? If you are it is the way it works, if you >> just do a save it shouldn't. I believe this started with Logic 7 >> and has >> continued with the worst version of Logic(the most trouble plagued > > version of Logic IMHB) logic 7.2 > >Thanks for replying to my post. I'm not saving as a project. But it >sounds like that's what it's doing. I guess my notion that I should >upgrade to 7.2 is a bad one. That was my next step..... I'm really >stumped on this one... Funny - I find v 7.2.1 to be the most stable problem-free version so far, but that's on my system. I think it's wrong for any one person to condemn one or other version of Logic as everyone's setup is different and unique. Julie, regarding your original problem: I find that if I have 2 songs open and swap songs, all the audio instruments reload, but this never happens when I save a song. Have you selected the option where EXS24 keeps common samples in memory? Maybe this will help, though I suspect the song is corrupt somehow. Do you have the same problem with a brand new song? Regards - Coln

At 7:34 Uhr -0500 02.10.2006, Julie Larson wrote: >Hi All, >Every time I save, Logic reloads all audio instruments. As you know >with large libraries and symphonic music this can take a Loooong time >not to mention the "that's not the way it's supposed to work" >factor. Does anyone know the answer to this. I've re-launched, >restarted, opened a new song file.... problem still there. Perhaps you accidentally swapped the keycommand for save with the one for save as project? Does the reloading also happen if you select save from the file menu? Cheers Hans

Thanks Hans, It was worth a try. I just saved from the menu....same problem. www.julielarson.net On Oct 4, 2006, at 8:38 AM, Hans Hafner wrote: > At 7:34 Uhr -0500 02.10.2006, Julie Larson wrote: > >Hi All, > >Every time I save, Logic reloads all audio instruments. As you know > >with large libraries and symphonic music this can take a Loooong time > >not to mention the "that's not the way it's supposed to work" > >factor. Does anyone know the answer to this. I've re-launched, > >restarted, opened a new song file.... problem still there. > > Perhaps you accidentally swapped the keycommand for save with the > one for save as project? > > Does the reloading also happen if you select save from the file menu?

Yes Colin, ....I've had this problem with the last 2 songs. best, julie www.julielarson.net On Oct 4, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Colin Shapiro wrote: > > Do you have the same problem with a brand new song? > > Regards - Coln > >

Check your project settings. If you untick "Save instruments with project" or something like that (don't remember the right name properly) it should work without reloading. At least it works here... Best, Helge Am 04.10.2006 um 15:38 schrieb Hans Hafner: > At 7:34 Uhr -0500 02.10.2006, Julie Larson wrote: >> Hi All, >> Every time I save, Logic reloads all audio instruments. As you know >> with large libraries and symphonic music this can take a Loooong time >> not to mention the "that's not the way it's supposed to work" >> factor. Does anyone know the answer to this. I've re-launched, >> restarted, opened a new song file.... problem still there. > > Perhaps you accidentally swapped the keycommand for save with the > one for save as project? > > Does the reloading also happen if you select save from the file menu? > > Cheers > Hans