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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@chickensys.com>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 at 1:33:57 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] pitch bend
Message #15276
This is a reply to #15272.
At 11:48 AM 5/8/2006, you wrote: >I'm triggering a bunch of different samples live in an exs instrument >and need to have some with no pitch bend and some with. >Is there a way to do that? I don't see any way at the moment. Thought >maybe in the groups but doesn't look like it. Nope, it's a global world we live in. Garth Hjelte Sampler User
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From: Charles Lucy <emagic@lullabies.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 at 2:10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] pitch bend
Message #15277
This is a reply to #15276.
On 8 May 2006, at 19:33, Garth Hjelte wrote: > At 11:48 AM 5/8/2006, you wrote: > >> I'm triggering a bunch of different samples live in an exs instrument >> and need to have some with no pitch bend and some with. >> Is there a way to do that? I don't see any way at the moment. Thought >> maybe in the groups but doesn't look like it. > > Nope, it's a global world we live in. > > Garth Hjelte > Sampler User The best way to pitchbend particular notes is by using the microtuning capability at SongSettings/Tuning in Logic Pro 7. see this page for details: http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboard/pitch_bend.html
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From: Paul O'Duffy <pauloduffy@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 at 6:54:41 PM
Subject: Re: importing akai formatted zip disks into EXS
Message #15278
Thanks for the advice , I'll give it a shot . I need to import the program info as well . Remapping 3/4 samples per note is not something I want to do in this or the next lifetime. I'm using a G5 Quad / Logic 7 / O SX 10.4.6
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From: Tom Hammer <tlhammer@optonline.net>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 at 8:52:15 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: pitch bend
Message #15279
This is a reply to #15272.
> > On 8 May 2006, at 19:33, Garth Hjelte wrote: > >> At 11:48 AM 5/8/2006, you wrote: >> >>> I'm triggering a bunch of different samples live in an exs >>> instrument >>> and need to have some with no pitch bend and some with. >>> Is there a way to do that? I don't see any way at the moment. >>> Thought >>> maybe in the groups but doesn't look like it. >> >> Nope, it's a global world we live in. >> >> Garth Hjelte >> Sampler User > The best way to pitchbend particular notes is by using the > microtuning capability at SongSettings/Tuning in Logic Pro 7. > > > > see this page for details: > > http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboard/pitch_bend.html What I'm specifically trying to do is play a key that is triggering a loop. Then I want to play some other notes and move the pitchbend wheel to make those notes pitchbend while the loop still plays and doesn't pitchbend. This is for a live situation. Gettting the feeling it can't be done within a exs instrument. Unless I could have 2 exs instruments being played at the same time. One with pitchbend active and one without. Note sure how to accomplish that. Probably cabling in the environment??? thanks tom
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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@chickensys.com>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 at 9:38:15 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: pitch bend
Message #15280
This is a reply to #15279.
At 08:52 AM 5/10/2006, you wrote: >What I'm specifically trying to do is play a key that is triggering >a loop. Then I want to play some other notes and move the pitchbend >wheel to make those notes pitchbend while the loop still plays and >doesn't pitchbend. This is for a live situation. >Gettting the feeling it can't be done within a exs instrument. >Unless I could have 2 exs instruments being played at the same time. >One with pitchbend active and one without. Note sure how to >accomplish that. Probably cabling in the environment??? You're right; you'd use two EXS instruments paying at the same time. One thing that would really help the EXS would be a "Bank format" and functionality that would allow several Instrument to be loaded in one screen or command. Sort of like the Parts in MachFive. That would IMMEDIATLY open up lots of textural possibilities and tear down the limitations of EXS (different modulators for certain sample sets, the ability to have velocity splits and controller xfades simultaneously, etc.). Garth Hjelte Sampler User
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 at 12:27:53 PM
Subject: [EXS] [EXS Anyone using White Grand?
Message #15281
I bought this piano and can't use it. Anytime i play a note staccato, after it has faded away completely, I get a single click. I've been in touch with Worra and he blames EXS and has given up on me. He is sending me new disks but i can't imagine that will help. Since I used EXS Manager to link the files, I tried Andrea at Redmatica but never heard back from him. So is anyone using this piano Successfully on EXS? Thanks, JP
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From: Andrea at Redmatica <agoz@redmatica.com>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 at 12:33:08 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] [EXS Anyone using White Grand?
Message #15282
This is a reply to #15281.
On May 10, 2006, at 7:27 PM, james page wrote: > I bought this piano and can't use it. Anytime i play a > note > staccato, after it has faded away completely, I get a > single click. I've been in touch with Worra and he > blames EXS and has given up on me. He is sending me > new disks but i can't imagine that will help. Since I > used EXS Manager to link the files, I tried Andrea at > Redmatica but never heard back from him. Hello James, actually we are waiting for you to send also one of the samples so that we can test it here... Did you receive my email? Best Regards Andrea at Redmatica
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From: "Per Larsson" <per@sampletekk.com>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 at 12:35:50 PM
Subject: SV: [EXS] [EXS Anyone using White Grand?
Message #15283
This is a reply to #15281.
> I bought this piano and can't use it. Anytime i play a > note staccato, after it has faded away completely, I get a > single click. I've been in touch with Worra and he > blames EXS and has given up on me. He is sending me > new disks but i can't imagine that will help. Since I > used EXS Manager to link the files, I tried Andrea at > Redmatica but never heard back from him. > So is anyone using this piano Successfully on EXS? > Thanks, JP Hi JP. I haven't given up on you...:) I tried the same exs file as you have, using the midifile you sent me, and it worked perfectly without clicks, as you could hear on the mp3 file I sent you with the result of the test. The next step is to try with the disc I sent you. I'll contact Andrea too! So, I'm not giving up! Best, Worra
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 at 1:59:02 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] [EXS Anyone using White Grand?
Message #15284
This is a reply to #15282.
Andrea:Sorry but I never did receive an email from you. What exactly would you like me to send you? JP --- Andrea at Redmatica <agoz@redmatica.com> wrote: > > On May 10, 2006, at 7:27 PM, james page wrote: > > > I bought this piano and can't use it. Anytime i > play a > > note > > staccato, after it has faded away completely, I > get a > > single click. I've been in touch with Worra and he > > blames EXS and has given up on me. He is sending > me > > new disks but i can't imagine that will help. > Since I > > used EXS Manager to link the files, I tried Andrea > at > > Redmatica but never heard back from him. > > Hello James, > actually we are waiting for you to send also one of > the samples so > that we can test it here... > Did you receive my email? > > Best Regards > Andrea at Redmatica >
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From: "rengerk" <renger@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 at 5:02:22 PM
Subject: [EXS] Free EXS patch at soundlabel.com
Message #15285
Hi, I just finished a few free patches in several formats from my Piano Attack sample library. So, go and grab yours! ;-) www.soundlabel.com/support There is are demo songs and a videoclip at www.pianoattack.com have fun! Renger
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From: Andrea at Redmatica <agoz@redmatica.com>
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 at 3:34:33 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] [EXS Anyone using White Grand?
Message #15286
This is a reply to #15284.
On 10/May / 2006, at 8:59 PM, james page wrote: > Andrea:Sorry but I never did receive an email from > you. What exactly would you like me to send you? > JP James, I replied to you privately, but seems like you don't receive/see my emails. Can you please check your spam/junk folder? Maybe they went there. As alternative, please contact me using another email address. Best Regards Andrea at Redmatica
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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@gmx.de>
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 at 10:57:54 PM
Subject: [EXS] Strange EXS behaviour
Message #15287
Hi there, I have a problem with the EXS and at least here it's reproducible, perhaps one of you guys can test this real quick. Download this song: http://www.hanshafner.de/quickupload/piano_test.zip It should already be in cycle mode. Now hit play and immediately after stop and then hang on for 3 seconds or so. I'm getting another sound and if the piano instrument I was using is actually loaded it's playing some sort of altered chord, some variation of the one that's coming later in the music. Are you also getting this behaviour? I've tested it in 7.2.1 and 7.2.0 and in 6.4.3 where it doesn't have this error. Thanks for the help Cheers Hans
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From: "HKC" <hkc@surfpost.dk>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 at 3:04:15 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Strange EXS behaviour
Message #15288
This is a reply to #15287.
H Hafner wrote: I have a problem with the EXS and at least here it's reproducible, perhaps one of you guys can test this real quick. Download this song: http://www.hanshafner.de/quickupload/piano_test.zip It should already be in cycle mode. Now hit play and immediately after stop and then hang on for 3 seconds or so. I'm getting another sound and if the piano instrument I was using is actually loaded it's playing some sort of altered chord, some variation of the one that's coming later in the music. Are you also getting this behaviour? I'm almost sad to report that I can't reproduce it here, no preset change and same chords (although they are a tad on the jazzy side so I had to listen to a few times to figure it out). On the other hand I have also experienced similar behaviour at some point but it was on a song that was imported from 5.51 Windows. I also noticed that your sustainpedal (contr 64) was a bit strange with 3 zeroes after each other and the next one up the line also a zero. I don't know how you did that because to produce a zero you have to come from somewhere beyond which means that you can't add a zero after a zero by using the pedal, only by manually inserting it and that wouldn't make sense.
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From: Jeff Fisher <jefisher@videotron.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 at 5:53:24 PM
Subject: [EXS] is virtual system memory useable on a Macbook Pro?
Message #15289
thinking of moving from a Powerbook G4 1.67 up to a Macintel Laptop to run a huge live kit in logic. The new books still have a 2Gig Ram limit...my present live template exceeds that and memory paging begins. On the G4 this means audio glitching as OSX moves data to and from the system disk. I was wondering if the Intel boxes with their much faster buses can thus run memory-hogging setups without interrupting the flow of audio (a dual G5 with only 512 Megs of RAM was able to do this)...Not looking for simultaneous playback of many tracks, just the ability to load way way beyond the RAM ceiling with VSL and plugs in a live situation..with no audio stuttering anybody care to test this out THX Jeff
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From: Mark Falchook <falchook@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 at 8:21:38 AM
Subject: [EXS] Steel String Guitar Samples?
Message #15290
Greetings, I'm in need of a great James Taylor-esque steel string acoustic guitar sound, preferably for EXS. Any recommendations? (Let's leave out RealGuitar and Virtual Guitarist for now.) I'm not really looking for pre-played patterns; just a great library that I can play myself, (though sampled chords wouldn't hurt, but aren't mandatory). I've heard good things about Yellow Tools' "Pure Guitars", but the three audio demos on their site don't demo the steel string; only the nylon string and 12 string. Again; I'm really looking for that James Taylor soft finger-picked sound. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Mark
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From: "Herbert Boland" <yahoo@zeppelin.demon.nl>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 at 9:05:56 AM
Subject: RE: [EXS] Steel String Guitar Samples?
Message #15291
This is a reply to #15290.
>>(Let's leave out RealGuitar and Virtual Guitarist for now.) I'm not >>really looking for pre-played patterns; just a great library that I >>can play myself, Mark, RG isn't all about patterns. You can make your own strums, picks, solos, dependent on the mode. It can do bends, fret noise, slides. It has different steel string sounds (finger or plectrum). You can compare it with a library and use it as a library. And yes, there are a lot of patterns to choose from too if you buy the full product. It is a totally different approach than VG. My only complaint is that I wish RG would have an option to add ones own chord alternatives, for G for instance (different open strings). I like RG together with Guitaramp a lot. Don't know if it suits your James Tayler needs... Herbert @zepmusic.com www.zepmusic.com .:. Songwriters Network .:. www.herbertboland.nl .:. Media Composer .:.
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From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 at 10:04:13 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: is virtual system memory useable on a Macbook Pro?
Message #15292
This is a reply to #15289.
From: "Jeff Fisher" jefisher@videotron.ca > > thinking of moving from a Powerbook G4 1.67 up to a Macintel Laptop > to run a huge live kit in logic. The new books still have a > 2Gig Ram limit...my present live template exceeds that and memory > paging begins. On the G4 this means audio glitching as OSX > moves data to and from the system disk. I was wondering if the Intel > boxes with their much faster buses can thus run memory-hogging > setups without interrupting the flow of audio (a dual G5 with only > 512 Megs of RAM was able to do this)...Not looking for simultaneous > playback of many tracks, just the ability to load way way beyond the > RAM ceiling with VSL and plugs in a live situation..with no audio > stuttering > anybody care to test this out > THX Jeff Remember, hard disk access isn't any faster than it's been for the past few years. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 at 10:19:48 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Strange EXS behaviour
Message #15293
This is a reply to #15287.
Hans Hafner wrote: > Hi there, > > I have a problem with the EXS and at least here it's reproducible, > perhaps one of you guys can test this real quick. > > Download this song: > http://www.hanshafner.de/quickupload/piano_test.zip > > It should already be in cycle mode. > > Now hit play and immediately after stop and then hang on for 3 seconds or so. > > I'm getting another sound and if the piano instrument I was using is > actually loaded it's playing some sort of altered chord, some > variation of the one that's coming later in the music. > > Are you also getting this behaviour? Confirmed. But it's not to do with EXS happens with EVP88 too. Your quantisation strength and other extended sequence parameters are creating overlapped notes when played from a cycle. Chords that sound very slighty before a cycle are played from the exact bar the cycle starts in order to hear the chord, this sometimes plays havoc when notes are overlapped. It's odd that you are using Q-Flam, this is meant for notes that are already quantised - I think. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware) ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas***
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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 at 11:03:14 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Steel String Guitar Samples?
Message #15294
This is a reply to #15291.
On 18.05.2006, at 16:05, Herbert Boland wrote: > My only complaint is that I wish RG would have an option to add > ones own > chord alternatives, for G for instance (different open strings). I asked the RealGuitar developer for the G but he refused. Said that there are so many chords, he cannot implement "everything". In my opinion that is not a good decision because G and G7 with open strings are widely used and have a typical sound. ___ Peter Ostry
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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 at 10:28:12 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Strange EXS behaviour
Message #15295
This is a reply to #15293.
At 16:19 Uhr +0100 18.05.2006, Pete Thomas wrote: >Your quantisation strength and other extended sequence parameters are >creating overlapped notes when played from a cycle. Chords that sound >very slighty before a cycle are played from the exact bar the cycle >starts in order to hear the chord, this sometimes plays havoc when notes >are overlapped. It's odd that you are using Q-Flam, this is meant for >notes that are already quantised - I think. Hmm... perhaps it's that, however, I'm getting the "unwanted" chord when Logic just played for one beat or so and then stopped, does this still have to do with the cycle? The flam parameter allows chords to sound more like a keyboard player would actually play them an not quite so static as a sequencer does. You're right, it sort of stretches notes out after quantizing. But more to the point: in your opinion the quantize settings are responsible for the "unwanted" chord? Thanks and cheers Hans
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From: "Herbert Boland" <yahoo@zeppelin.demon.nl>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 at 12:54:19 PM
Subject: RE: [EXS] Steel String Guitar Samples?
Message #15296
This is a reply to #15294.
Van: exs-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exs-users@yahoogroups.com] Namens Peter Ostry >I asked the RealGuitar developer for the G but he refused. Said that >there are so many chords, he cannot implement "everything". In my >opinion that is not a good decision because G and G7 with open >strings are widely used and have a typical sound. Sounds like an overworked programmer... But you're absolutely right, these are distinctive sounds that you definately want to be able to use in a song. Maybe I drop him a line as well. He can't persevere in rejecting a good suggestion. Herbert @zepmusic.com www.zepmusic.com .:. Songwriters Network .:. www.herbertboland.nl .:. Media Composer .:.
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From: "mfalchook" <falchook@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 at 4:20:49 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Steel String Guitar Samples?
Message #15297
This is a reply to #15291.
Herbert, Thanks for your reply. Based on your response, I loaded up RealGuitar into my song and gave it a shot. (Frankly it never occured to me to use it just as a sound source.) Unfortunately it wasn't the right sound for the particular tune that I'm working on. Thus far, it seems like Hans Zimmer Guitars II is the only suggestion I've received (from another forum), but it's a bit pricey. Does anyone have any other suggestions of another library? Thanks. -Mark --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Herbert Boland" <yahoo@...> wrote: > > >>(Let's leave out RealGuitar and Virtual Guitarist for now.) I'm not > >>really looking for pre-played patterns; just a great library that I > >>can play myself, > > Mark, RG isn't all about patterns. You can make your own strums, picks, > solos, dependent on the mode. It can do bends, fret noise, slides. It > has different steel string sounds (finger or plectrum). You can compare > it with a library and use it as a library. And yes, there are a lot of > patterns to choose from too if you buy the full product. It is a totally > different approach than VG. > > My only complaint is that I wish RG would have an option to add ones own > chord alternatives, for G for instance (different open strings). > > I like RG together with Guitaramp a lot. > > Don't know if it suits your James Tayler needs...
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 at 4:27:06 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Strange EXS behaviour
Message #15298
This is a reply to #15295.
Hans Hafner wrote: > At 16:19 Uhr +0100 18.05.2006, Pete Thomas wrote: >> Your quantisation strength and other extended sequence parameters are >> creating overlapped notes when played from a cycle. Chords that sound >> very slighty before a cycle are played from the exact bar the cycle >> starts in order to hear the chord, this sometimes plays havoc when notes >> are overlapped. It's odd that you are using Q-Flam, this is meant for >> notes that are already quantised - I think. > > Hmm... perhaps it's that, however, I'm getting the "unwanted" chord > when Logic just played for one beat or so and then stopped, does this > still have to do with the cycle? > > The flam parameter allows chords to sound more like a keyboard player > would actually play them an not quite so static as a sequencer does. > You're right, it sort of stretches notes out after quantizing. > > But more to the point: in your opinion the quantize settings are > responsible for the "unwanted" chord? I'd say a combination of the quantise settings and Logic's way of dealing with playback and/or cycled playback when a chord starts before the playback position. I think in this case the chord has some notes that stop then start again (e.g E2) which seems a bit odd, as if you lifted your fingers from the keyboard momentarily by accident during the chord (not wishing to criticize your playing - that's quite normal). These little notes aren't playing when played back from the cycle point because I think the main chord is shuffled forward to sound from the start of playback. Update: Just tried pasting the sequence into a new autoload and playing the same cycle. Doesn't happen - so maybe I'm talking rubbish and you just have a corrupt song! -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware) ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas***
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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 at 9:30:47 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Strange EXS behaviour
Message #15299
This is a reply to #15298.
I found the reason: It's the chase setting. As soon as I turn it off of course I'm not getting long held notes, but at least then I'm not getting the erratic behaviour that I'm getting now. So in my experience chase doesn't work. Cheers Hans
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From: Jeff Fisher <jefisher@videotron.ca>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 at 1:42:03 PM
Subject: [EXS] is virtual system memory useable on a Macbook Pro?
Message #15300
This is a reply to #15289.
> > Message 3 > From: "Nick Batzdorf" recording@earthlink.net > Date: Thu May 18, 2006 8:04am(PDT) > Subject: Re: is virtual system memory useable on a Macbook Pro? > > From: "Jeff Fisher" jefisher@videotron.ca >> > >> thinking of moving from a Powerbook G4 1.67 up to a Macintel Laptop >> to run a huge live kit in logic. The new books still have a >> 2Gig Ram limit...my present live template exceeds that and memory >> paging begins. On the G4 this means audio glitching as OSX >> moves data to and from the system disk. I was wondering if the Intel >> boxes with their much faster buses can thus run memory-hogging >> setups without interrupting the flow of audio (a dual G5 with only >> 512 Megs of RAM was able to do this)...Not looking for simultaneous >> playback of many tracks, just the ability to load way way beyond the >> RAM ceiling with VSL and plugs in a live situation..with no audio >> stuttering >> anybody care to test this out >> THX Jeff > > Remember, hard disk access isn't any faster than it's been for the > past few years. Hmm, don't the new Powerbooks all uses SATA drives (although methinks 5400RPM)? perhaps if I boot off an external drive... I guess I'll have to go to the store to run some tests... thanx Jeff
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