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Message posted by Will Suddeth <willpowermusic@comcast.net>
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> ok, I'm starting to get it a little bit. but do I have to load each
>sample one by one? how do I get the sample to sound factory quality?
>Thanks for the help! at least I know i'm going in the right direction!
you shouldnt need to load samples one by one. you can go to zone > load
multiple samples and add all the wav files you want in the particular
instrument selected. then decide how you want them loaded onto the keyboard.
if the samples are all labelled by note value correctly you can use 'auto
map' to assign them to their designated notes, 'drums' is also a similar
mapping tool but without a range set. chromatic is my favoured setup if you
have loads of samples you want triggering by midi without range starting
from the set key C1. maximum samples per instrument is about 84 after that
or thereabouts the samples start back over from C1 after that, therefore you
may have 2 samples playing at the same time. hope this helps.
Fred
On 28/03/2006, at 12: 21, Keith Moore wrote:
>> Well, thank you to both Petes for testing this. I guess it must be
>> possible to get the Old Lady to work.
>> My problem with cut off notes is so severe that I can't use this
>> instrument. I would really like to know how to fix it...
>>
>> I'm running a Dual 1.8 G5 with 2 Gigs of ram, OS 10.4.5 and Logic
>> 7.1.1. Should be more than enough for this piano. EXS is using
>> virtual memory and consistently accumulates samples not loaded in
>> time errors with the Old Lady.
>>
>> Could it have anything to do with the samples being 48k?
>> Would EXS manager help? I did try the demo, as per instructions on
>> the PMI site, with no improvement.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Tom
>
> Here's the fix for the Old Lady Note cut-off problem;
>
> Load an Old Lady Instance (preferably a copy)
> open the exs editor,
> select all samples,
> go to "Zone/Update selected Zone(s) info from Audio file/"
>
> That's it
That is indeed it. I can finally play with no notes cutting off.
Brilliant.
Michiel should post this obscure, but very necessary little trick on
the PMI website.
Peter Ostry, I wonder if this fixes your B1 problem.
Thanks to everyone who took the time to help out. What a great
resource we have here.
Tom
> > Here's the fix for the Old Lady Note cut-off problem;
> >
> > Load an Old Lady Instance (preferably a copy)
> > open the exs editor,
> > select all samples,
> > go to "Zone/Update selected Zone(s) info from Audio
file/"
> >
> > That's it
>
> That is indeed it. I can finally play with no notes cutting off.
> Brilliant.
> Michiel should post this obscure, but very necessary little trick on
> the PMI website.
Exactly which instrument is this working on?
I've tried it on the "OLD LADY Fixed 2755" without success - the
programme complains that "Differences were detected for 668
zones". If
I fix them all these samples (most of which are below C3) no longer
play at all.
I'd love to hear from others how they fixed this problem...
--
with best wishes,
John
http;//abram.ca
thank you, I am on the right track. I have like thousands of individual
sounds. Like for instance, I have many folders, like a "piano' folder
with all piano sounds. I don't really need to stack the sounds. I want
each sound to come up in a list, and be able to choose the sound. does
anyone understand what I'm saying? Is it possible to load folders of
sounds? I hope I'm explaining it right. thanks. sorry if my questions
seem dumb.
On 29/03/2006, at 23: 34, John Abram wrote:
>>> Here's the fix for the Old Lady Note cut-off problem;
>>>
>>> Load an Old Lady Instance (preferably a copy)
>>> open the exs editor,
>>> select all samples,
>>> go to "Zone/Update selected Zone(s) info from Audio
file/"
>>>
>>> That's it
>>
>> That is indeed it. I can finally play with no notes cutting off.
>> Brilliant.
>> Michiel should post this obscure, but very necessary little trick
on
>> the PMI website.
>
> Exactly which instrument is this working on?
>
> I've tried it on the "OLD LADY Fixed 2755" without success -
the
> programme complains that "Differences were detected for 668
zones". If
> I fix them all these samples (most of which are below C3) no longer
> play at all.
>
> I'd love to hear from others how they fixed this problem...
I got the same results as you and thought it stuffed it right up, but
then I thought about the alchemy that working with software can be
sometimes and I decided to save that (668 zone fixed) version of the
Old Lady. Then I selected a different patch and proceeded to load
this new Old Lady, and voila, it worked perfectly.
So, to answer your question: Do what you did, save, reload new Old Lady.
Tom
At 08:01 AM 3/29/2006, you wrote:
>thank you, I am on the right track. I have like thousands of
>individual sounds. Like for instance, I have many folders, like a
>"piano' folder with all piano sounds. I don't really need to stack
>the sounds. I want each sound to come up in a list, and be able to
>choose the sound. does anyone understand what I'm saying? Is it
>possible to load folders of sounds? I hope I'm explaining it
>right. thanks. sorry if my questions seem dumb.
They aren't dumb, but either my messages are getting hung up in the
Yahoo loop or something is wrong. I've suggested the same thing twice
already to you.
BTW, you are posting to the wrong list - this is being forwarded over
to the exs-users@yahoogroups.com list where i am answering it.
Use the "Load Multiple Samples" option under the Zones menu in the
EXS-24 Instrument Editor. This will take whatever samples you
choose and map them like you want, or at least close to them.
MAC G5 Dual 2.5 Ghz
2.5GB RAM
one internal 250GB hard drive dedicated to sample playback
OS X 10.4.5
RME DIGI 9652 Audio Card - Buffer 512 (also tried 1024 no big difference)
LOGIC 7.1
EXS Prefs: Sample Storage: 32bit float, everything else set to normal/medium
Hello,
I'm experiencing problems with the playback of more complex samples in the
EXS 24. I loaded in about 30 complex samples (sustained strings (Sonic
Implanst etc.) but used only let's say 10 of them. When playing back I
always get the 'System Overload' message - sometimes to an extend that it
stops playing right after you hit the space bar. I think it has to do with
the fact that those samples are to complex for the EXS to handle. Could that
be true? I'm also loading (but PLAYING BACK) three Culture (Yellow Tools)
instances and some other 3rd party plug-ins. Freezing of course helps, but
why? It's a quite fast machine and I'm playing back just 15 tracks MAX.
When looking at the voices used in the EXS it never reaches the maximum
voices assigned. The audio performance is normal - the disk i/o is less than
moderate. Also, what happens frequently with bigger samples is that even
though the # of voices used is way less than the #assignes sustained chords
would stop abruptly when other instruments kick in...
Could it be that LOGIC doesn't like it when you load in 40 memory intense
samples (even id you don't use them)?
I know that LOGIC can only handle 2.7GB of RAM so upgrading the RAM wouldn't
help either...
Thanks for all your suggestions
Best
Patrick
On 29/03/06, Tom Harrer <tomh_lists@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> I got the same results as you and thought it stuffed it right up, but
> then I thought about the alchemy that working with software can be
> sometimes and I decided to save that (668 zone fixed) version of the
> Old Lady. Then I selected a different patch and proceeded to load
> this new Old Lady, and voila, it worked perfectly.
>
> So, to answer your question: Do what you did, save, reload new Old
Lady.
>
> Tom
>
Thanks, Tom! This worked.
--
with best wishes,
John
http;//abram.ca
Message posted by PK MUSIC <p_kirst@yahoo.com>
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>
> MAC G5 Dual 2.5 Ghz
> 2.5GB RAM
> one internal 250GB hard drive dedicated to sample playback
> OS X 10.4.5
> RME DIGI 9652 Audio Card - Buffer 512 (also tried 1024 no big
> difference)
> LOGIC 7.1
> EXS Prefs: Sample Storage: 32bit float, everything else set to
> normal/medium
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm experiencing problems with the playback of more complex samples
> in the
> EXS 24. I loaded in about 30 complex samples (sustained strings (Sonic
> Implanst etc.) but used only let's say 10 of them. When playing back I
> always get the 'System Overload' message - sometimes to an extend
> that it
> stops playing right after you hit the space bar. I think it has to
> do with
> the fact that those samples are to complex for the EXS to handle.
> Could that
> be true? I'm also loading (but PLAYING BACK) three Culture (Yellow
> Tools)
> instances and some other 3rd party plug-ins. Freezing of course
> helps, but
> why? It's a quite fast machine and I'm playing back just 15 tracks
> MAX.
>
> When looking at the voices used in the EXS it never reaches the
> maximum
> voices assigned. The audio performance is normal - the disk i/o is
> less than
> moderate. Also, what happens frequently with bigger samples is that
> even
> though the # of voices used is way less than the #assignes
> sustained chords
> would stop abruptly when other instruments kick in...
>
> Could it be that LOGIC doesn't like it when you load in 40 memory
> intense
> samples (even id you don't use them)?
>
> I know that LOGIC can only handle 2.7GB of RAM so upgrading the RAM
> wouldn't
> help either...
It can handle 2.7 - 3GB of RAM if you have at least 4.5GB installed,
probably 5. So it would probably help quite a bit, in fact I suspect
that's your problem: you have so many samples loaded into RAM that
your system is using virtual memory (meaning the hard disk). That
assumes you have the EXS' virtual memory turned on, which means disk-
streaming.
If that's not it, I think you have to watch Activity Monitor while
you're adding these instruments one at a time to see what's breaking
the camel's back. I'd also try using the built-in audio so you can
rule out it being an RME issue.
Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher
Virtual Instruments Magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers
www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com
1-877 VImagzn (846-2496)
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I bought the Vintaudio group buy package and can't get some of the disks to
copy. They get to a certain point and stop. I exchanged emails with Franky
from Vintaudio who suggested I try another machine. I did so and got the
same results. He was very responsive till I told him I had tried it on a
second machine with the same results and now I haven't been able to get a
response from Vintaudio in several subsequent emails. Anyone know how to
reach them directly?
Thanks for your help
Shawn
Heya Exs users in Logic. I have this project where I need to use some
ethereal 'new age' female voice for a rough and then Sissel Kyrkjebo
(Titanics
OTHER voice) will come in and replace them.
Any good libraries that can pull this sort of thing off?
-r Michael huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
On 8 Apr 2006, at 02:46, Huud@aol.com wrote:
> Heya Exs users in Logic. I have this project where I need to use
> some
> ethereal 'new age' female voice for a rough and then Sissel
> Kyrkjebo (Titanics
> OTHER voice) will come in and replace them.
>
> Any good libraries that can pull this sort of thing off?
>
> -r Michael huud
> www.Music4TheMovies.com
No idea on fem voices, but if you LucyTune it correctly it will sound
ethereal.
This page tells you how and has free tuning downloads.
http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboard/pitch_bend.html
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Buy CD from:
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Lullabies at iTunes (if you already have iTunes installed):
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Greetings All,
Does anyone know where I might be able to find some good quality
Theremin samples? Let me know. Thanks in advance!
John F.
Hello
I'm a newbie on this forum so go easy with me please 8)
Does anyone know if there's an easy way to update my old EXS samples from
5.5 (OS9) to V7.2 (OSX).
I'm trying to avoid the laboreous task of doing it manually - if there is a
way to import my old EXS programme information and their respective audio
files direct into Logic Pro 7.2's EXS I'd love to know.
Many thanks in advance
K Man
On 10.04.2006, at 20:36, forums@logic-users.org wrote:
> if there is a
> way to import my old EXS programme information and their respective
> audio
> files direct into Logic Pro 7.2's EXS I'd love to know.
Yes. ExsManager. 80 Euro for the pro edition and worth every cent.
http://www.redmatica.com/
Basically you put your instruments and samples somewhere and tell
ExsManager where they are and where you want them to go. Take the
time to learn about the options and do a couple of runs to see how it
behaves. Many people use it.
___
Peter Ostry
>> if there is a
>> way to import my old EXS programme information and their respective
>> audio
>> files direct into Logic Pro 7.2's EXS I'd love to know.
>
> Yes. ExsManager. 80 Euro for the pro edition and worth every cent.
> http://www.redmatica.com/
>
> Basically you put your instruments and samples somewhere and tell
> ExsManager where they are and where you want them to go. Take the
> time to learn about the options and do a couple of runs to see how it
> behaves. Many people use it.
..Oo. Oo, it will also speed up the loading process at least ten fold!
Another vote for EXS manager, transparent and dependable!
Best Regards,
Matt
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> ..Oo. Oo, it will also speed up the loading process at least ten fold!
> Another vote for EXS manager, transparent and dependable!
Yep. I'll ditto that. EXS Manager is such an astonishingly useful program
(astonishingly necessary if you have a large sample library) that it is hard
to fathom how Apple has not licensed and included what it does into Logic,
or at least improved the Program Manager...but that's another story.
best, Nathan
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Music Production
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Hi all im having some issues with logic. having just reinstalled windows and
logic audio I am now getting some serious delay with samples and all GM that
is being triggered from the keyboard. I was able to fix this last time by
changing the latency and a few other things but this time it does not seem
to be working. can anyone give me some advice on how to reduce the delay
time between note down and sample sound output? Many thanks its driving me
mad!
Fred
FRED SCHOFIELD
143 Lavenham Road, Southfields
London SW18 5EP
Tel: 0208 874 5937
Mob: 07957 260 652
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I heard there was some kind of EXS Player that will play EXS
instruments/samples outside of logic? Is this true? Does anyone know where
to find it?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Schofield
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:05 PM
Subject: [EXS] latency problems
Hi all im having some issues with logic. having just reinstalled windows
and
logic audio I am now getting some serious delay with samples and all GM
that
is being triggered from the keyboard. I was able to fix this last time by
changing the latency and a few other things but this time it does not seem
to be working. can anyone give me some advice on how to reduce the delay
time between note down and sample sound output? Many thanks its driving me
mad!
Fred
FRED SCHOFIELD
143 Lavenham Road, Southfields
London SW18 5EP
Tel: 0208 874 5937
Mob: 07957 260 652
Fredschofield@btinternet.com
Http://www.myspace.com/fredschofield
Hi Fred
I had a similar problem a few years ago now. If your running windows XP this
won't apply but if it is older versions such as Win 98 then make sure that
your hardrive has the DMA option set to on (you can do this under control
panel/system etc).
All the best
Darren
Hi,
a Strange thing happens when I try to use a preset (paid-for) instrument:
certain velocities don't play. This is an instrument that was created to
work with samples that arrive with it on a sample cd, from
www.realsamples.de (the "real drumes collection").
It was designed to play different samples for different velocities on a
single note: for example: the note C2 contains 127 samples (zones)- each has
a unique velocity assigned to it, from 1 to 127. in theory - it should play
but in reality my EXS24 MKII plays only some values (49, 98, 116 and other
random shit) while others don't!! (53-97 range etc.)
Can someone help me? what's going on with my exs??
thanks,
Yaron.
Setup:
2.66 GHz PC, XP Pro, 512 RAM, Logic Audio Platinum 5.5.0, M-Audio Delta44
sound card, HP printer, Canon Scanner.
hello
did you have any joy with this problem ? I have experienced the same thing
and can't quite work out what it is !!
D
realsamples.de talked to emagic about it - and it's a bug that's related to
exs24 mkII on logic 5.5 PC.
The bug will be fixed.
Le 13 avr. 06, à 13:05, Fred Schofield a écrit :
>
> Hi all im having some issues with logic. having just reinstalled
> windows and
> logic audio I am now getting some serious delay with samples and all
> GM that
> is being triggered from the keyboard.
I am not really Windows user (Logic 7.1 on Mac OSX), but I've recently
installed a 5.5 Logic audio
on my wife's PC, for her to start on the wonderful world of virtual
music :-D
I noticed a huge latency when playing on an USB keyboard with the PC
internal sound card GM set. I did'nt success to correct (but I don't
know all the mysteries of Windows) and could passed by the problem by
using an external sound device (a Korg 05R/W) connected with a MT4 -
did'nt tried the joystick connection), so it is now playable.
I can eventually have some other tests ?
--
Gérald
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