David, Interesting you should bring that one up. I spent a fair amount of time today checking out the MOTU Symphonic Instrument which appears to be one of the few options I have available to me, given my system and $ restrictions. I plan on making a decision in the next few days and if I go with MOTU, I'll report back once I've been able to give it a test drive. The audio clips and Jordan Rudess video demos are pretty impressive. And the price is right within my budget. John F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "amgshaffer" <cedar.bay@comcast.net> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [EXS] String Section Samples > > >>I was suggesting GOS not GPO. GOS predates XP and I would be fairly certain it would work fine on Win 2000. The problem is it may no longer be available. > >>JP > >> > >> > >Thanks James. Since it appears that I will not be able to go with the GPO, > >I will inquire about the GOS set. > > > > > > > Has anyone tried MOTU's Symphonic Instrument? I've not seen a review > yet, so I would be interested in knowing what people think. > > Regards, > David > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > EXS Users Group - new web forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Cool, thanks Don! John F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Newmeyer" <music@newmeyer.org> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [EXS] String Section Samples > > > > on 3/20/06 2:53 PM, jfifieldus at juanitopepito@att.net wrote: > > > James, > > > > I e-mailed Gary Garritan. The GOS is not available. > > > > John F. > > > > For $179 you can still order the GOS lite Akai version, which you can > convert in the EXS: > > http://www.mtlc.net/index.php?page=Product&searchvalue=garritan&pid0 67 > > Still a great value. I used it for a couple of years before upgrading to the > full GOS library. > > Don > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > EXS Users Group - new web forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Below is the web address to a blog discussing the MSI. May be worth a read, especially for PC users interested in purchasing this software. http://www.pfiggianimsc.com/blog/?p6 John F. --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, amgshaffer <cedar.bay@...> wrote: > > > >>I was suggesting GOS not GPO. GOS predates XP and I would be fairly certain it would work fine on Win 2000. The problem is it may no longer be available. > >>JP > >> > >> > >Thanks James. Since it appears that I will not be able to go with the GPO, > >I will inquire about the GOS set. > > > > > > > Has anyone tried MOTU's Symphonic Instrument? I've not seen a review > yet, so I would be interested in knowing what people think. > > Regards, > David >

Has anyone had problems with 24 bit wave samples. I bought Carina Accordion for EXS all I get is white noise. It was suggested that I change the normal in samlestorage to 32 bit but that didn't work. Anyone know of a fix? Pax Jake

Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical Instruments successfully? I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always cut off notes in the lower registers. Michiel Post has updated it several times but none fixed this issue. He also doesn't seem to want to communicate about this problem, hence my message to see if anyone has got it to work. Tom

On 22.03.2006, at 18:12, Tom Harrer wrote: > Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical > Instruments successfully? > I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always > cut off notes in the lower registers. Confirmed. I have also some short notes at certain velocities. My left hand likes to produce them, yes, lower registers. Some vanished after the last upgrade but some are still here. Not bad for me because I don't talk to the Lady very often, play rather slowly and can fix the few instances afterwards. I don't know if we could do something on our own, was always too lazy to jump into these billions of samples... ___ Peter Ostry

hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone can tell me what seems to be the best piano emulator i can run with logic on PC? either through EXS or as a vst plugin? I dont want to buy just anything only to realise its rubbish! I would like it to sound as close to the real thing as possible, a concert grand maybe? all the presets and GM pianos just seem to have a fake sound to them, i know im not going to be able to reproduce a piano exactly but would hope there's a package out there that is better than these GM pianos. How about any FX pesets to give a better sound with what is on offer too? this woulod be a great help. Many thanks Fred

Tom Harrer wrote: > Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical > Instruments successfully? > I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always > cut off notes in the lower registers. > Michiel Post has updated it several times but none fixed this issue. > He also doesn't seem to want to communicate about this problem, hence > my message to see if anyone has got it to work. I'm using it, can you be more specific about which notes, I'll run a test on it. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware) ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas***

On 23/3/06 18:44, "John Amriding" <john@amriding.org> wrote: > I use a few pianos via EXS: they¹re all very good (in their own individual > ways) > > http://www.artvista.net/Malmsjo%20Acoustic%20Grand.html (my favourite) > > http://www.artvista.net/Virtual_Grand_Piano.html (quite heavy use of RAM tho¹: > I have a dual 1.25 Mirror door G4 and sometimes it has difficulty) > > http://www.synthogy.com/ (3 pianos in one: curiously I don¹t have as much > difficulty with these as the VGP) > > Certainly Hans Adamson¹s pianos have a lovely quality to them: I think that > you¹ll be impressed. Listen to the demos (but, for me, the Malmsjö is the > best) > > John. > > On 23/3/06 14:00, "Fred Schofield" <fredschofield@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> hi everyone, >> I was wondering if anyone can tell me what seems to be the best piano >> emulator i can run with logic on PC? either through EXS or as a vst plugin? >> I dont want to buy just anything only to realise its rubbish! I would like >> it to sound as close to the real thing as possible, a concert grand maybe? >> all the presets and GM pianos just seem to have a fake sound to them, i know >> im not going to be able to reproduce a piano exactly but would hope there's >> a package out there that is better than these GM pianos. How about any FX >> pesets to give a better sound with what is on offer too? this woulod be a >> great help. >> Many thanks >> >> Fred P.S. Other pianos are by http://www.bardstownaudio.com/index.html http://www.postpiano.com/home.php http://www.sampletekk.com/ But I haven't tried them at all. John.

On 23/3/06 14:00, "Fred Schofield" <fredschofield@btinternet.com> wrote: > hi everyone, > I was wondering if anyone can tell me what seems to be the best piano > emulator i can run with logic on PC? either through EXS or as a vst plugin? > I dont want to buy just anything only to realise its rubbish! I would like > it to sound as close to the real thing as possible, a concert grand maybe? > all the presets and GM pianos just seem to have a fake sound to them, i know > im not going to be able to reproduce a piano exactly but would hope there's > a package out there that is better than these GM pianos. How about any FX > pesets to give a better sound with what is on offer too? this woulod be a > great help. > Many thanks > > Fred I use a few pianos via EXS: they¹re all very good (in their own individual ways) http://www.artvista.net/Malmsjo%20Acoustic%20Grand.html (my favourite) http://www.artvista.net/Virtual_Grand_Piano.html (quite heavy use of RAM tho¹: I have a dual 1.25 Mirror door G4 and sometimes it has difficulty) http://www.synthogy.com/ (3 pianos in one: curiously I don¹t have as much difficulty with these as the VGP) Certainly Hans Adamson¹s pianos have a lovely quality to them: I think that you¹ll be impressed. Listen to the demos (but, for me, the Malmsjö is the best) John.

> Tom Harrer wrote: >> Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical >> Instruments successfully? >> I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always >> cut off notes in the lower registers. >> Michiel Post has updated it several times but none fixed this issue. >> He also doesn't seem to want to communicate about this problem, hence >> my message to see if anyone has got it to work. > > > I'm using it, can you be more specific about which notes, I'll run a > test on it. > > > -- > Pete Thomas > www.petethomas.co.uk You can't really miss it if you improvise and hold your left hand down for the full decay. Many of the notes get cut off after about 2-3 seconds. The virtual memory info will show the number of samples not loaded in time. It is so bad that you can't really play this instrument. Tom Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Gotta be a basic thing to some. For example: triggering a snare drum sample each time the snare drum mic reaches a certain volume level. ( in post ) My best bet is that it would be similar to sidechaining, but that is still a little confusing to me. Anyone? Thanks in advance! -Danny

On 24.03.2006, at 18:42, dannywleo wrote: > For example: triggering a snare drum sample each time the snare > drum mic reaches a > certain volume level. ( in post ) You can use "audio to score" for full replacement if the snare drum signal is clean enough. apTrigga and Drumagog are plugins which allow filtering and playing samples based on audio data. ___ Peter Ostry

Tom Harrer wrote: >> Tom Harrer wrote: >>> Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical >>> Instruments successfully? >>> I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always >>> cut off notes in the lower registers. >>> Michiel Post has updated it several times but none fixed this issue. >>> He also doesn't seem to want to communicate about this problem, hence >>> my message to see if anyone has got it to work. >> >> I'm using it, can you be more specific about which notes, I'll run a >> test on it. >> >> >> -- >> Pete Thomas >> www.petethomas.co.uk > > You can't really miss it if you improvise and hold your left hand > down for the full decay. Many of the notes get cut off after about > 2-3 seconds. > The virtual memory info will show the number of samples not loaded in > time. > > It is so bad that you can't really play this instrument. > Hmmm....I can't seem to get it to happen. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware) ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas***

>> Tom Harrer wrote: >> Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical >> Instruments successfully? >> I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always >> cut off notes in the lower registers. > > On 26.03.2006, at 09:38, Pete Thomas wrote: > Hmmm....I can't seem to get it to happen. Indeed a strange problem, I have this short notes also but cannot properly reproduce the failure. Right now I loaded the (full) Old Lady and played a quiet B1 which I know as problematic around a velocity of 20-30. And it was abruptly cut off after a second or so. But not when I played it again. I made a series of B1's in the score with increasing velocity - nothing. I played a lot of notes rather quickly - nothing, the B1 was ok. Then I played a short tune with pedal and everything and afterwards a single B1 it was cutoff at velo 17 and at 21 and played ok from now on. Maybe it has something to do with the huge number of samples and the memory handling of the EXS? ___ Peter Ostry

On 27/03/2006, at 4: 15, Peter Ostry wrote: >>> Tom Harrer wrote: >>> Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical >>> Instruments successfully? >>> I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always >>> cut off notes in the lower registers. >> >> On 26.03.2006, at 09:38, Pete Thomas wrote: >> Hmmm....I can't seem to get it to happen. > > Indeed a strange problem, I have this short notes also but cannot > properly reproduce the failure. Right now I loaded the (full) Old > Lady and played a quiet B1 which I know as problematic around a > velocity of 20-30. And it was abruptly cut off after a second or so. > But not when I played it again. I made a series of B1's in the score > with increasing velocity - nothing. I played a lot of notes rather > quickly - nothing, the B1 was ok. Then I played a short tune with > pedal and everything and afterwards a single B1 it was cutoff at velo > 17 and at 21 and played ok from now on. > > Maybe it has something to do with the huge number of samples and the > memory handling of the EXS? > > ___ > Peter Ostry Well, thank you to both Petes for testing this. I guess it must be possible to get the Old Lady to work. My problem with cut off notes is so severe that I can't use this instrument. I would really like to know how to fix it... I'm running a Dual 1.8 G5 with 2 Gigs of ram, OS 10.4.5 and Logic 7.1.1. Should be more than enough for this piano. EXS is using virtual memory and consistently accumulates samples not loaded in time errors with the Old Lady. Could it have anything to do with the samples being 48k? Would EXS manager help? I did try the demo, as per instructions on the PMI site, with no improvement. Cheers Tom

After some extensive problems with my computer (iMac G5), I'm about to reload my EXS sounds. Can anyone remind my of the procedure? I'm using Logic 7 Pro. Thanks Dennis

On 27.03.2006, at 04:36, Tom Harrer wrote: > Could it have anything to do with the samples being 48k? > Would EXS manager help? No, all my samples are organized by ExsManager and the program does not show an error. And all samples of the Lady are found and loaded, that is what ExsManager assures. The problem is the playback. ___ Peter Ostry

Tom, You've probably looked at these issues...but thought I'd throw them out there anyway. How do you have the polyphony set in the EXS window....how many voices? It's a really simple thing but sometimes overlooked.... when it's set to something like 12 or even 32 for a piano part, you can experience note cut-offs. Push it up to 64 the pedal runs polyphony through the roof. Another thing....if you're running other EXS instruments in addition to your Old Lady RAM could be an issue. 2 gig isn't that much these days. Try freezing your Old Lady track or doing an offline bounce....and see if the note cut- offs are still there. If they're not, I suspect ram. my 2 cents.... julie www.julielarson.net

On 27.03.2006, at 16:10, Julie Larson wrote: > Tom ... How do you have the polyphony set in the EXS > window....how many voices? It's a really simple thing but sometimes > overlooked.... when it's set to something like 12 or even 32 for a > piano part, you can experience note cut-offs. Push it up to 64 ... I am usually at 64 voices for pianos because my rather poor playing requires a lot of pedal work. I reduce the voices only if I encounter performance problems. > ... if you're running other > EXS instruments in addition to your Old Lady ... During my test the Lady was the only track in the whole file and the B1, a personal friend of mine, did cut off occasionally. Strange, that problem ... > ... Try freezing your > Old Lady track or doing an offline bounce... Tom wants to play - freezing would be bad for his fingers :-) ___ Peter Ostry

Hi I am very new to this world of sampling, samplers, or reasonable facsimiles thereof. Therefore, I really need some help. I have some DVD's with a PLETHORA of sounds that I NEED to use(yesterday) They are all in .wav format, and I have no idea on how to convert to exs. I thought it was as simple as loading the disc into the correct folder. Guess I was wrong. I'm using CDXtract, but I can't seem tro convert the files that way either. is it because of the DVD's? The sound don't show up in the EXS24. this is frustrating me a lot! Could someone please help? Rhanx and God bless!

At 10:52 AM 3/27/2006, you wrote: >I am very new to this world of sampling, samplers, or reasonable facsimiles >thereof. Therefore, I really need some help. I have some DVD's with a >PLETHORA of sounds that I NEED to use(yesterday) They are all in .wav >format, and I have no idea on how to convert to exs. I thought it was as >simple as loading the disc into the correct folder. EXS files are simply control files that define how one or more .wav files are mapped out across the keyboard. So if you want to create a .exs file, for EXS to play it, just create a New Instrument, add a Zone, and load one of these samples into it. Perhaps you want to map many .wav files in a single .EXS instrument. Then use the "Load Multiple Samples" under the Zone menu. You don't necessarily need a third-party convertor, although Translator www.chickensys.com has some nifty options on mapping multiple samples. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

> Well, thank you to both Petes for testing this. I guess it must be > possible to get the Old Lady to work. > My problem with cut off notes is so severe that I can't use this > instrument. I would really like to know how to fix it... > > I'm running a Dual 1.8 G5 with 2 Gigs of ram, OS 10.4.5 and Logic > 7.1.1. Should be more than enough for this piano. EXS is using > virtual memory and consistently accumulates samples not loaded in > time errors with the Old Lady. > > Could it have anything to do with the samples being 48k? > Would EXS manager help? I did try the demo, as per instructions on > the PMI site, with no improvement. > > Cheers > Tom Here's the fix for the Old Lady Note cut-off problem; Load an Old Lady Instance (preferably a copy) open the exs editor, select all samples, go to "Zone/Update selected Zone(s) info from Audio file/" That's it Keith Moore Lone Arranger Pty. Ltd. "Is it ignorance or apathy? Hey, I don't know and I don't care." Jimmy Buffett (1943-) _ _ _ ............... www.lonearranger.com.au

ok, I'm starting to get it a little bit. but do I have to load each sample one by one? how do I get the sample to sound factory quality? Thanks for the help! at least I know i'm going in the right direction!

>Message posted by Will Suddeth <willpowermusic@comcast.net> >______________________________________________________________________ > >ok, I'm starting to get it a little bit. but do I have to load each >sample one by one? how do I get the sample to sound factory >quality? Thanks for the help! at least I know i'm going in the >right direction! Reread the last post. For multiple samples, use the Load multiple samples option under Zone. Garth Hjelte Sampler User