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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@chickensys.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 8:52:04 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Sample Library
Message #15126
This is a reply to #15113.
At 08:12 AM 2/18/2006 -0800, you wrote: >I was wondering if there is an efficient way to move the exs sample >library out of my logic folder and onto a different HD without using a >manager such as redmatica/exsmanager... my library is starting to get a >little hefty. Well, there always just moving it, then letting EXS find the samples as you load them in. make sure EXS is set in Options to look in all volumes. Garth Hjelte Sampler User
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 11:50:02 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15127
This is a reply to #15124.
--- Jim Seaman <jseaman@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi, > > I received my Garritan Orchestral Srings last week > but cannot get the > gig files to import or convert to exs files. > I copied the Gigasampler files into the Sampler > Instruments folder. > When I try to load a gig file into the EXS24mkII I > get a dialogue box > saying: > "insufficient access priveledges for operation > REULT CODE = - 5000" > This happens for each sample I have tried to load. > I have set the gig. files to read only and also read > and write but this > has no effect. > I'm not sure if my error is mac, logic or GOS > related. > I'm using a dual 1gig G4 with L7.1.1 on OS 10.3.9 > Thanks for any helpful hints. > I too am having a problem with this library but it is for different reasons. I have Sean McCoy's converted EXS instrument files in my lib/app support/logic/sample instruments folder. The .gig files are on my sample drive but they are not converting from there. Do i have to move them into the sampler instrument folder for conversion? It seems like I should be able to have them with my other libraries on my separate sample drive. What am I missing here? Thanks, JP
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 12:11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15128
This is a reply to #15127.
On Feb ,20, 2006, at 12:50 PM, james page wrote: > I too am having a problem with this library but it is > for different reasons. I have Sean McCoy's converted > EXS instrument files in my lib/app > support/logic/sample instruments folder. The .gig > files are on my sample drive but they are not > converting from there. Do i have to move them into the > sampler instrument folder for conversion? It seems > like I should be able to have them with my other > libraries on my separate sample drive. > What am I missing here? Hi James, The .gig files are like archives. The samples cannot be read directly from them. Yes, you first have to put them into your sampler instruments folder and then call them up. The act of calling them up from within the exs will convert them to a native recognizable format. Once they are all converted you can trash the .gig files. You won't need them on your HD any more. And if you like, you can trash the newly created Garritan sampler instruments and just use Sean's. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 12:54:17 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15129
This is a reply to #15128.
--- Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca> wrote: > The .gig files are like archives. The samples cannot > be read directly > from them. Yes, you first have to put them into your > sampler > instruments folder and then call them up. The act of > calling them up > from within the exs will convert them to a native > recognizable format. > Once they are all converted you can trash the .gig > files. You won't > need them on your HD any more. And if you like, you > can trash the newly > created Garritan sampler instruments and just use > Sean's. Thanks Eli! So if I understand you I need to put the .gig files directly in my sampler instrument folder. Then I have to load every single instrument individually into EXS and then I can transfer the newly converted files to my sample drive. I better make a pot of tea. Thanks, JP
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 1:16:05 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15130
This is a reply to #15128.
--- Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca> wrote: And if you like, you > can trash the newly > created Garritan sampler instruments and just use > Sean's. Using Sean's EXS instruments, should the "giga convert includes release trigger" be checked or unchecked in the EXS preferences? Thanks, JP
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 1:19:38 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15131
This is a reply to #15129.
On Feb ,20, 2006, at 1:54 PM, james page wrote: > Thanks Eli! So if I understand you I need to put the > .gig files directly in my sampler instrument folder. > Then I have to load every single instrument > individually into EXS Yup, unfortunately. Some of the better put together libraries entomb several instruments into each .gig file. So there are fewer but larger files to convert. I'm not sure how the GOS library is done. > and then I can transfer the > newly converted files to my sample drive. Exactly. > I better > make a pot of tea. That would be my first line of thinking as well..... -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 1:24:09 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15132
This is a reply to #15130.
On Feb ,20, 2006, at 2:16 PM, james page wrote: > Using Sean's EXS instruments, should the "giga convert > includes release trigger" be checked or unchecked in > the EXS preferences? That's a really good question. Unfortunately I don't know. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 1:42:06 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24
Message #15133
This is a reply to #15130.
At 11:16 AM 02/20/2006, you wrote: >--- Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca> wrote: > > And if you like, you > > can trash the newly > > created Garritan sampler instruments and just use > > Sean's. > >Using Sean's EXS instruments, should the "giga convert >includes release trigger" be checked or unchecked in >the EXS preferences? >Thanks, JP It's been awhile now, but if I remember correctly, I did use the "include release trigger" option when converting the .gig files, but none of the release instruments ever worked properly so I dropped them from the EXS versions. Take a quick look through the EXS instruments and see if any of them include "rel" in their filenames. That would be the clue---I could be wrong about this. EXS expands .gig files into a default directory in the Logic Application Support folder called "DLS-Giga Samples," but you can create an alias of this folder to have the expansion directed automatically to the drive and folder of your choice. This will save you the hassle of having to move all the data after expanding. Also, it would be most efficient to expand all the gig files first, then trash all the automatically converted instruments and replace them with the ones we did. If you already have our files in your Sampler Instruments folder some may get overwritten or other confusion may ensue.
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From: David Gordon <music-pro@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 1:41:16 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15134
This is a reply to #15125.
>> I received my Garritan Orchestral Srings last week but cannot get the >> gig files to import or convert to exs files. >> I copied the Gigasampler files into the Sampler Instruments folder. >> When I try to load a gig file into the EXS24mkII I get a dialogue box >> saying: >> "insufficient access priveledges for operation >> REULT CODE = - 5000" > > This definitely sounds "permissions" related. Select the whole folder. > Under "bet info" set permissions to read and write, unlock the little > lock icon, and do the "apply to enclosed items thing". I find this > stuff to be a bit of voodoo on occasion. Sometimes it works other > times > you have to do it two or three times until it takes. > > -------- > Eli Krantzberg > http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com > Almat Productions The best way to change lots of permissions at once (as with a folder full of instruments imported from a CDROM or DVD) do this is to use a free program called BatChMod. You can download it here: http://macchampion.com/arbysoft/ It's an easy to use frag and drop interface for a Unix script that works more reliably than the Finder checkbox. For some reason when you do it with the Finder, the permissions change back sometimes. With BatChMod, they stay put. This little program has solved sticky situations for me many times. - Dave
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From: Lenny clear mail <laughteraudio@clearmail.com.au>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 8:34:48 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Sample Library
Message #15135
This is a reply to #15113.
On 19/2/06 2:12 AM, "Corrinne M. Haskins" <chaskins9@yahoo.com> wrote: > I was wondering if there is an efficient way to move > the exs sample library out of my logic folder and onto > a different HD without using a manager such as > redmatica/exsmanager... my library is starting to get > a little hefty. > > thanks for the help.. > > > > > Corrinne M. Haskins, M.S., L.Ac. > Dipl. Ac., Dipl. C.H. > > Hi Corinne Just move the entire library to whichever drive you want Just don't move the instrument files! You know just the audio wav files As long as your instrument files stay in their normal place in the library then logic will look for the corresponding audio files and link up There was something ages ago that said make an alias of yopur libraries new location and put it in the original libraries¹ folder Personally I never have had to do this I have all my Apple loops /BFD modern drummer etc wav files all together and I have called this main folder sample library..Works very well Now if I could only play more accurately!!! I hope this helps Lenny Rose-Slaughter Laughter Audio Australia>
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From: Tom Third <zeromodule@rogers.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 at 2:27:09 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15136
This is a reply to #15124.
> And if you like, you can trash the newly >> created Garritan sampler instruments and just use >> Sean's. > > Using Sean's EXS instruments, should the "giga convert > includes release trigger" be checked or unchecked in > the EXS preferences? > Thanks, JP Hi Folks....should I introduce myself?...i haven't piped up on the list for years though I read every digest...anyhow, Tom Third, TV composer.... I was in europe last week, and when I got back, my Garritan strings arrived too....I'm about to set out converting them, and I see everyone talking about *Sean's Instruments* for this library....what are Sean's Instruments? best tom <><><><><><><><><>< ><><><><><><><> Tom Third Composer-Audio Post Production
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 at 12:10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15137
This is a reply to #15136.
--- Tom Third <zeromodule@rogers.com> wrote: > I was in europe last week, and when I got back, my > Garritan strings > arrived too....I'm about to set out converting them, > and I see > everyone talking about *Sean's Instruments* for this > library....what > are Sean's Instruments? Sean McCoy converted and programmed the entire GOS for EXS users. The files are available here: http://www.garritan.com/GPO-LogicPage.html. Good luck, JP
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 at 12:49:22 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to
Message #15138
This is a reply to #15137.
At 10:10 AM 02/21/2006, you wrote: >Sean McCoy converted and programmed the entire GOS for >EXS users. The files are available here: >http://www.garritan.com/GPO-LogicPage.html. >Good luck, >JP Just to clarify: I converted the great majority of the programs, with special attention to the EXP instruments, whose 4-layer crossfades didn't work at all in the automatic conversion. Instruments that didn't translate well (such as Giga filtered and release programs and those that required both modwheel and key switching) were ignored altogether. Kevin Rix tweaked many of my programs and added several I hadn't gotten to, so the set is pretty complete. Did anyone ever locate the Maestro Tools Environment? Was it on the DVD's? It's required for legato playing, and though I have it, I have no idea where I got it!
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 at 1:01:43 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15139
This is a reply to #15138.
--- Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org> wrote: > Did anyone ever locate the Maestro Tools > Environment? Was it on the > DVD's? It's required for legato playing, and though > I have it, I have > no idea where I got it! > yes it was included with the install DVDs. JP
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From: "adelakis" <adelakis@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 at 1:56:54 AM
Subject: [EXS] Older EXS Samples from OS9
Message #15140
Hello, I cannot use some old Wizoo samples that worked fine on Logic Platinum v. 4.7.3 , now I have Logic Pro 7 and I place the samples in the corresponding folder but they canot be used, any idea how to make the work? Thanks
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From: "hiphopdraw" <hiphopdraw@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 at 2:07:53 AM
Subject: [EXS] any realistic acoustic guitar multisamples out there?
Message #15141
I'm looking for a acoustic guitar multisample that sounds realistic? Is there any out there in exs or soundfont format I can buy? I'm looking at plugsounds vol.2 I believe and soundscan vol. 50. Is there any others out there I should look at? I really want a martin d28 in the future, but that's gonna take ahwile. I'm tired of my presets in my triton right now. Also, tell me if there's any good realistic flute and violin multisamples I can buy? I wish I had the money to get the things I want right now, just gotta do them with samples right now. Can't afford session players, motif, and instruments. DRAW
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 at 6:16:03 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Older EXS Samples from OS9
Message #15142
This is a reply to #15140.
adelakis wrote: > Hello, I cannot use some old Wizoo samples that worked fine on Logic Platinum v. 4.7.3 , now > I have Logic Pro 7 and I place the samples in the corresponding folder but they canot be > used, any idea how to make the work? > Thanks The samples (wav or aiff files) can be anywhere. If the exs instrument can't find them do a scan in project manager or get Redmatica EXS Manager. The exs instruments must be in the right folder. This explains Logic Pro 7 folders on OS X: http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-apple-pro-7.html -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - (Almost) Free Logic Tutorials, Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments
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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 at 6:22:43 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] any realistic acoustic guitar multisamples out there?
Message #15143
This is a reply to #15141.
On 22.02.2006, at 09:07, hiphopdraw wrote: > I'm looking for a acoustic guitar multisample that sounds realistic? > Is there any out there in exs or soundfont format I can buy? I'm > looking at plugsounds vol.2 I believe and soundscan vol. 50. Is there > any others out there I should look at? I really want a martin d28 in > the future, but that's gonna take ahwile. I'm tired of my presets in > my triton right now. You seem to play keyboard and guitar. Have you considered a special plugin? You might have a look at RealGuitar: http://www.musiclab.com It sounds amazing natural and is built to be controlled by a keyboard. RealGuitar 2.0 comes soon and will add some features but the 1.5 version is great too. > Also, tell me if there's any good realistic flute and violin > multisamples I can buy? A lot, in all price categories. Maybe you are happy with Garritan Personal Orchestra, then you don't have to spend too much money: http://www.garritan.com Dry and wet samples, expression control, individual parameters like panning, variation etc. > I wish I had the money to get the things I want right now... A printing press helps :-) ___ Peter Ostry
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From: Colin Shapiro <musos@icon.co.za>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 at 6:20:09 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] any realistic acoustic guitar multisamples out there?
Message #15144
This is a reply to #15141.
>I'm looking for a acoustic guitar multisample that sounds realistic? >Is there any out there in exs or soundfont format I can buy? I'm >looking at plugsounds vol.2 I believe and soundscan vol. 50. Is there >any others out there I should look at? I really want a martin d28 in >the future, but that's gonna take ahwile. I'm tired of my presets in >my triton right now. > >Also, tell me if there's any good realistic flute and violin >multisamples I can buy? Check out the Hans Zimmer Guitar vol1: http://www.ilio.com/spectrasonics/hanszimmerguitarsvol1/index.html Unfortunately this disk is in the old Roland or Akai format, but you can easily convert with CDXtract to softsampler formats. Flute and violin: Vienna Symphonic is the top end..... Regards - Colin
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 at 5:53:20 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: any realistic acoustic guitar multisamples out there?
Message #15145
This is a reply to #15141.
hiphopdraw wrote: > I'm looking for a acoustic guitar multisample that sounds realistic? > Is there any out there in exs or soundfont format I can buy? I'm > looking at plugsounds vol.2 I believe and soundscan vol. 50. Is there > any others out there I should look at? I really want a martin d28 in > the future, but that's gonna take ahwile. I'm tired of my presets in > my triton right now. > > Also, tell me if there's any good realistic flute and violin > multisamples I can buy? > > I wish I had the money to get the things I want right now, just gotta > do them with samples right now. Can't afford session players, motif, > and instruments. If you want a nylon string then I have a multisampled 24bit (every semitone) instrument. Played with finger vibrato and velocity layered slap so it has a bit more like than most. There is also an Elfolk acoustic with built in amplifier and speaker (really) plus tremelo. Also some flutes which are theoretically quite low fi (downsampled and looped) but actually extremely useable, with and without vibrato. Modwheel crossfades also. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware) ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas***
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From: hiphopdraw music <hiphopdraw@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 at 4:52:31 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] any realistic acoustic guitar multisamples out there?
Message #15146
This is a reply to #15145.
Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk> wrote: hiphopdraw wrote: >If you want a nylon string then I have a multisampled 24bit (every >semitone) instrument. Played with finger vibrato and velocity layered >slap so it has a bit more like than most. There is also an Elfolk >acoustic with built in amplifier and speaker (really) plus tremelo. >Also some flutes which are theoretically quite low fi (downsampled and >looped) but actually extremely useable, with and without vibrato. >Modwheel crossfades also. >-- >Pete Thomas >www.petethomas.co.uk >Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments >EXS Instruments (donationware) >***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** >***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas*** How can I get it?
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 at 7:42:24 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: any realistic acoustic guitar multisamples out there?
Message #15147
This is a reply to #15146.
hiphopdraw music wrote: > Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk> wrote: hiphopdraw wrote: > > >> If you want a nylon string then I have a multisampled 24bit (every >> semitone) instrument. Played with finger vibrato and velocity layered >> slap so it has a bit more like than most. There is also an Elfolk >> acoustic with built in amplifier and speaker (really) plus tremelo. > >> Also some flutes which are theoretically quite low fi (downsampled and >> looped) but actually extremely useable, with and without vibrato. >> Modwheel crossfades also. > >> -- >> Pete Thomas >> www.petethomas.co.uk > >> Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments >> EXS Instruments (donationware) > >> ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** >> ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas*** > > > How can I get it? On my site -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware) ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas***
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 at 7:48:09 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: New User Blues
Message #15148
This is a reply to #15024.
Jurgen Frenz wrote: > Hi, > > the guy who sold you the software should give you the > manual as well. > Did you buy it with a dongle? There are pirate > versions of logic 5.2 for windows out there without a > dongle - in that case you were cheated. I am sorry if you were cheated and got sold a cracked version with no XS key - I hope not. If it is a cracked version you may find that after a while the tuning goes weird in EXS so if this is the case it's not just an illegal copy, but also a useless piece of software. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware) ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas***
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From: Jim Seaman <jseaman@sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 at 3:04:46 AM
Subject: [EXS] EXS Factory Samples to EXS24
Message #15149
Hi, By going Library/Application Support/Logic there is the Sampler Instruments folder. In the Sampler Instruments folder are the sampler instrument library files in exs format. I have no problem loading these into the EXS. Also if going Library/Application Support/Logic there is the EXS Factory Samples folder. And in this folder are different instruments in aiff format than in the Sampler Instruments folder. I cannot load these aiff files into the EXS24 even if I put them into the Sampler Instruments folder. I haven't found any mention of this in the EXS24 mkII chapter of the Pro 7 Plug-in Reference manual although it says that the EXS24 is compatible with AIFF files. Is this possible and if so, how is it accomplished? Thanks for any enlightenment, Jim
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 at 6:45:15 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS Factory Samples to EXS24
Message #15150
This is a reply to #15149.
On Feb ,25, 2006, at 4:04 AM, Jim Seaman wrote: > By going Library/Application Support/Logic there is the Sampler > Instruments folder. > [snip] > Also if going Library/Application Support/Logic there is the EXS > Factory Samples folder. > [snip] > I cannot load these aiff files into the EXS24 even if I put them into > the Sampler Instruments folder. Those aiff files are the files that the sampler instruments are reading when you load them in. You don't load aiff files directly into the EXS 24. They are referenced, or "read", by the sampler instruments. That's the way this whole architecture works. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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