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From: "edward" <hiphopdraw@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 at 11:36:50 AM
Subject: [EXS] Xtreme Analog, Digital, Hip Hop
Message #15101
I heard logic 7 has all these sounds already stocked. Is that true? I know that they were made from emagic, and they are discontinued. DRAW
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 at 2:44:32 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Chromatic Sampling (To Normalize or Not To Normalize)
Message #15102
This is a reply to #15093.
mandcmiller wrote: > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Pete Thomas <logic@...> wrote: >> mandcmiller wrote: >>> Hey Folks, >>> I've been chromatically sampling the raw wavefroms from a bunch of vintage (80's >>> era) synths. I'm wondering if it is best to normalize each individual sample, or >>> should I allow the natural taper remain from the low to high notes? I'm sure there are >>> arguements for and against, not withstanding the integtrity of the normailzing > algorithms, >>> but on a technical level, are non-normailzed samples going to be tapered twice - > once by the >>> synth and then by the EXS? >> >> Interesting question. >> >> Why not do some tests and report back. >> >> ie record the whole range, don't normalise, and check the meters level >> of the EXS output against the meter levels of the synth input for the >> same notes. (Same velocity of course!) > > Hey Pete, > The EXS does not re-taper the samples. I tested this using 3 scenarios. For the first test I > played back the chromatic samples in an audio track as well as from within an EXS > instrument. Each sample (note) played back at the identical level. For the second test I > used a C1 sample mapped across the entire keyboard range, and the level of the C1 > sample was the same all the way up the keyboard range. For the 3rd test I just triggering > the sine wave that is generated from an EXS with no instrument loaded and again the exs > produced the same level all the way up the range. > > So, the subjective question is, should the individual samples be normalized or should the > integrity of the synth(s) be maintained by allowing the natural taper to remain? My gut tells > me that leaving the taper is a more musical approach. > I'd say go with your gut... -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - (Almost) Free Logic Tutorials, Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments
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From: Colin Shapiro <musos@icon.co.za>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 at 5:44:17 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Editor Zoom Key Command
Message #15103
This is a reply to #15089.
Keith Moore wrote: >For all those as dumb as me, I've just stumbled on a godsend of a kc. >control+ Left Right arrows changes the zoom setting in the exs editor. >maybe it's in the manual.... who really reads manuals after all these >years Well, it works in all windows in Logic that can zoom (arrange/score/matrix/sample edit/etc) You can also use control+up/down arrows to zoom in the other direction.... I'd forgotten about these, so....thanks! Regards - Colin
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 at 10:58:38 AM
Subject: [EXS] New EXS24 tips and tutorials
Message #15104
I have a new page of tips and tutorials on how to create EXS instruments with keyswitching, modwheel switching, modwheel crossfading and alternating groups Hope it's useful: http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-exs24.html -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - (Almost) Free Logic Tutorials, Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments
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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 at 12:09:17 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] New EXS24 tips and tutorials
Message #15105
This is a reply to #15104.
On 16.02.2006, at 17:58, Pete Thomas wrote: > I have a new page of tips and tutorials on how to create EXS > instruments > with keyswitching, modwheel switching, modwheel crossfading and > alternating groups > > Hope it's useful: > > http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-exs24.html Thank you! Very good info. And your screenshots are better readable than the EXS Interface on my screen :-) ___ Peter Ostry
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From: Lee Kanne <captain54@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 at 12:20:29 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] New EXS24 tips and tutorials
Message #15106
This is a reply to #15104.
was wondering if you had any tips on how to set up the ambient gretsch kit as a multi in EXS 24, with kick, snare, etc, being routed to it's own aux... thanks Lee K
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 at 3:06:57 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: New EXS24 tips and tutorials
Message #15107
This is a reply to #15106.
Lee Kanne wrote: > was wondering if you had any tips on how to set up the ambient gretsch > kit as a multi in EXS 24, with > kick, snare, etc, being routed to it's own aux... I may be wrong but I thought that was reasonably well covered in the manual. If not then yes, I'll certainly add it to the page. Please do me a favour - have a look and report back if the manual is confusing or inadequate about setting up a multi. Let me know what is missing or confusing When you know how to do something, it's sometimes difficult to look at the manual through the eyes of someone new to the concept in order to evaluate what is a good tip and what is already covered. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - (Almost) Free Logic Tutorials, Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments
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From: Lee Kanne <captain54@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 at 3:24:39 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: New EXS24 tips and tutorials
Message #15108
This is a reply to #15107.
On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Pete Thomas wrote: > I may be wrong but I thought that was reasonably well covered in the > manual. If not then yes, I'll certainly add it to the page. > > Please do me a favour - have a look and report back if the manual is > confusing or inadequate about setting up a multi. Let me know what is > missing or confusing > > When you know how to do something, it's sometimes difficult to look at > the manual through the eyes of someone new to the concept in order to > evaluate what is a good tip and what is already covered. > > > -- > Pete Thomas > www.petethomas.co.uk > - (Almost) Free Logic Tutorials, Icons, Environments and EXS > Instruments it's probably in the manual its just that I'm a lazy bastard and was looking for someone that already had an environment set up... I've got the multi environement for DFHS, and I'll tell you there are some things I really don't get...for example, you set up an aux for every part of the kit except the ambient mics...your DFHS instrument gets inserted into one designated audio instrument...and that somehow is routed to the ambient mics....why is that?
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 at 4:14:48 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: New EXS24 tips and tutorials
Message #15109
This is a reply to #15108.
Lee Kanne wrote: > On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Pete Thomas wrote: > > >> I may be wrong but I thought that was reasonably well covered in the >> manual. If not then yes, I'll certainly add it to the page. >> >> Please do me a favour - have a look and report back if the manual is >> confusing or inadequate about setting up a multi. Let me know what is >> missing or confusing >> >> When you know how to do something, it's sometimes difficult to look at >> the manual through the eyes of someone new to the concept in order to >> evaluate what is a good tip and what is already covered. >> >> >> -- >> Pete Thomas >> www.petethomas.co.uk >> - (Almost) Free Logic Tutorials, Icons, Environments and EXS >> Instruments > > > it's probably in the manual its just that I'm a lazy bastard and was > looking for someone that already had an environment set up... Maybe I'll do one to be included in an update. > > I've got the multi environement for DFHS, and I'll tell you there are > some things I really don't get...for example, you set up an aux for > every > part of the kit except the ambient mics...your DFHS instrument gets > inserted > into one designated audio instrument...and that somehow is routed to the > ambient mics....why is that? > Don't know. I don't have DFHS. Perhaps someone else can. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - (Almost) Free Logic Tutorials, Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments
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From: markus kmitta <laskartcom@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 at 6:47:09 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] New EXS24 tips and tutorials
Message #15110
This is a reply to #15104.
--- Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk> wrote: > I have a new page of tips and tutorials on how to > create EXS instruments > with keyswitching, modwheel switching, modwheel > crossfading and > alternating groups > > Hope it's useful: > > http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-exs24.html > > -- > Pete Thomas > www.petethomas.co.uk > - (Almost) Free Logic Tutorials, Icons, Environments > and EXS Instruments > > Dear Pete Thomas Very useful. Thank you so much. Best Markus Kmitta
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From: Lee Kanne <captain54@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 at 7:48:04 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] New EXS24 tips and tutorials
Message #15111
This is a reply to #15109.
>> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Pete Thomas wrote: >> >> >>> I may be wrong but I thought that was reasonably well covered in the >>> manual. If not then yes, I'll certainly add it to the page. >>> >>> Please do me a favour - have a look and report back if the manual is >>> confusing or inadequate about setting up a multi. Let me know what is >>> missing or confusing >>> >>> When you know how to do something, it's sometimes difficult to look >>> at >>> the manual through the eyes of someone new to the concept in order to >>> evaluate what is a good tip and what is already covered. Okay, I actually did go back and look at the manual on how to set up the multi exs with the ambient gretch kit and followed it TO THE LETTER and it's still a no go... here's what I did: 1)set up an environment in my autoload where I created a new audio object for 1 audio instrument (the exs 24 multi loaded with ambient gretsch) and 5 Auxes (snare, toms, hats, kick, cymbals) 2)set up in the EXS 24 multi editor each zone to be routed to it's respective output 3)assigned the input of every Aux to the respective output of the Main (Audio Instrument loaded with EXS 24 multi) its not working......could it be because in this song (autoload) I have the DFHS environment also?? what am I missing??
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From: "cdman1232001" <cdman1232001@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 at 4:16:48 PM
Subject: [EXS] Vintaudio GROUP BUY $65 Price REACHED for 3 Libs!!! :)
Message #15112
Hi all, well the group buy is a hit so far in less than 2 weeks the number of orders is at : 109 so this mean the lowest price has been reached : $65.00 for all 3 libraries :) To order simply direct link to the sale page here : http://www.vintaudio.com/Febsale.htm sales for the trio package are now at 109 Ultimate Yamaha C7 Our critically acclaimed Ultimate Yamaha C7 Collection which come in either GS3 (GS3 Format includes Body and Bridge resonance impulses, Pedal FX etc etc), Kontakt 2 Version (Kontakt 2 Version includes Body and Bridge resonance, Pedal Fx and a specially designed for Vintaudio Sympathetic string resonance string script), EXS24 and Halion formats, this library is in 24 bits. Library size : 12 Gigs. Here's a link to the demos : http://www.vintaudio.com/yamDemos.htm Upright Piano Collection This library is used by the best producers, recording artists and filmmakers around the world and was awarded 5 stars by Sound On Sound which called the library a steal at it's MSRP, now at only $60.00 it's highway robbery (Review availalbe on our website)The library has a beautiful Steinway Upright and a vintage 1908 Clinton Upright for that old moody upright piano sound, Library size : 4 Gigs here's a link to the demos : http://www.vintaudio.com/GUPCDemos.htm Giga Clean Electric Guitars Ever want to have the pristine recorded tone of a $4000.00 dollar Vintage guitar unprocessed so you can pass it through a amp or virtual Amp simulators and FX ? well this is the library that does it in style. The library has a 1959 Lespaul Costum sampled in both pickup positions, a 1958 Fender Strat and a Godin Artisan for that modern sound. Sound on Sound gave the library 4 stars (Review is available on our website) Here's a link to the demos : http://www.vintaudio.com/GCEG% 20Demos.htm To order simply direct link to the sale page here : http://www.vintaudio.com/Febsale.htm If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask, I always respond to queries in about 1 hour on work days : info@vintaudio.com Kindly Franky Vintaudio www.vintaudio.com
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From: "Corrinne M. Haskins" <chaskins9@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 at 10:12:07 AM
Subject: [EXS] Sample Library
Message #15113
This is a reply to #15111.
I was wondering if there is an efficient way to move the exs sample library out of my logic folder and onto a different HD without using a manager such as redmatica/exsmanager... my library is starting to get a little hefty. thanks for the help.. Corrinne M. Haskins, M.S., L.Ac. Dipl. Ac., Dipl. C.H.
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 at 2:09:03 PM
Subject: [EXS] Sampled Piano=White Noise
Message #15114
I recently installed both TBO and the White Grand pianos from SampleTekk and they play beautifully. However, I also installed the White Sister, using the same procedure, and although the raw samples sound fine, when I call up the piano in exs all I hear is white noise on every note. In desparation I've tried several different file structures for the instrument file but always get the same result. Any suggestions? Thanks, JP
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 at 5:56:56 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Reference change problem
Message #15115
--- James Ryan <jeryan@optonline.net> wrote: > I found that the white noise problem is rampant in > OSX, especially when > pulling samples from CDs or changing things in the > EXS. I had the same > problem with the White Grand. A workaround is > simply change the sample > type, i.e. if it's a Wave or AIFF file, convert it > to an SDII. Then the > problem disappears. For a large library, this could > be a formidable task, > but there are programs like Sample Manager that can > do bulk conversions > pretty efficiently. Then of course you have the > reference change problem > once you change the file type. Any ideas for that > Andrea? (Redmatica). The White Grand loaded fine here but the White Sister is having the same noise problem you describe. I tried converting the wav files to aiff as suggested but I also ran into the same problem that was predicted. EXS is now looking for wav files. Any way to apprise EXS of the reference change? After days of messing with it I'd love to hear this piano. Thanks, JP
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From: "HKC" <hkc@surfpost.dk>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 at 6:44:30 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Sampled Piano=White Noise
Message #15116
This is a reply to #15114.
JP wrote: I recently installed both TBO and the White Grand pianos from SampleTekk and they play beautifully.However, I also installed the White Sister, using the same procedure, and although the raw samples sound fine, when I call up the piano in exs all I hear is white noise on every note. I bought the PMI Consolidated Bundle and had the exact same problem with some of the pianos. I had to use the EXS manager to repair it along with an updated instrument from PMI.
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From: Andrea at Redmatica <agoz@redmatica.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 at 6:00:29 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Reference change problem
Message #15117
This is a reply to #15115.
On 19/Feb / 2006, at 12:56 PM, james page wrote: >> I found that the white noise problem is rampant in >> OSX, Any ideas for that >> Andrea? (Redmatica). Well, ExsManager already fixes that... Best Regards Andrea at Redmatica
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 at 10:10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Sample Library
Message #15118
This is a reply to #15113.
At 08:12 AM 02/18/2006, you wrote: >I was wondering if there is an efficient way to move >the exs sample library out of my logic folder and onto >a different HD without using a manager such as >redmatica/exsmanager... my library is starting to get >a little hefty. > >thanks for the help.. > > > > >Corrinne M. Haskins, M.S., L.Ac. >Dipl. Ac., Dipl. C.H. The samples for you libraries can reside anywhere, as can the sampler instruments as long as you create an alias to their location from the default "Sampler Instruments" folder. Once everything has been moved, EXS will have to search for the samples again the first time you load each instrument, which can take a long time, but will speed up after the initial find. Project Manager can re-link everything, but I understand this process can take thousands of years. EXS Manager, on the other hand, can handle this task even for gargantuan libraries in just minutes---or less. If you've got a "hefty" library as you mention, you really should have EXS Manager.
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From: "Corrinne M. Haskins" <chaskins9@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 at 11:30:52 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Sample Library
Message #15119
This is a reply to #15118.
--- Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org> wrote: > At 08:12 AM 02/18/2006, you wrote: > >I was wondering if there is an efficient way to move > >the exs sample library out of my logic folder and onto > >a different HD without using a manager such as > >redmatica/exsmanager... my library is starting to get > >a little hefty. > > > The samples for you libraries can reside anywhere, as can the sampler > instruments as long as you create an alias to their location from the > default "Sampler Instruments" folder. Once everything has been moved, > EXS will have to search for the samples again the first time you load > each instrument, which can take a long time, but will speed up after > the initial find. Project Manager can re-link everything, but I > understand this process can take thousands of years. > EXS Manager, on the other hand, can handle this task even for > gargantuan libraries in just minutes---or less. If you've got a "hefty" > library as you mention, you really should have EXS Manager. thanks for the info... I wasn't sure if exs operated the same way say stylus rmx does in that you can take the sage library off the main drive and just put an alias in its place. I didn't want to move anything and create more issues when exs sometimes has trouble finding certain files already... EXS manager is on my list of to do's I just didn't think I could wait. Corrinne M. Haskins, M.S., L.Ac. Dipl. Ac., Dipl. C.H.
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 at 1:14:19 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Sample Library
Message #15120
This is a reply to #15118.
Sean McCoy wrote: > At 08:12 AM 02/18/2006, you wrote: >> I was wondering if there is an efficient way to move >> the exs sample library out of my logic folder and onto >> a different HD without using a manager such as >> redmatica/exsmanager... my library is starting to get >> a little hefty. >> >> thanks for the help.. >> >> >> >> >> Corrinne M. Haskins, M.S., L.Ac. >> Dipl. Ac., Dipl. C.H. > > The samples for you libraries can reside anywhere, as can the sampler > instruments as long as you create an alias to their location from the > default "Sampler Instruments" folder. Once everything has been moved, > EXS will have to search for the samples again the first time you load > each instrument, which can take a long time, but will speed up after > the initial find. Project Manager can re-link everything, but I > understand this process can take thousands of years. EXS Manager, on > the other hand, can handle this task even for gargantuan libraries in > just minutes---or less. If you've got a "hefty" library as you > mention, you really should have EXS Manager. Good advice If you need more info on Logic and folder structure (which became very confusing at the Logic 6 - 7 and OS9 - OS X transition) have a look here: http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-apple-pro-7.html -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - (Almost) Free Logic Tutorials, Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments
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From: "Corrinne M. Haskins" <chaskins9@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 at 1:27:01 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Sample Library
Message #15121
This is a reply to #15120.
--- Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk> wrote: > > Good advice > > If you need more info on Logic and folder structure > (which became very > confusing at the Logic 6 - 7 and OS9 - OS X > transition) have a look here: > > http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-apple-pro-7.html > > > -- > Pete Thomas > www.petethomas.co.uk > - (Almost) Free Logic Tutorials, Icons, Environments > and EXS Instruments > > thanks pete I have actually referenced your site before for some of the exs downloads...and I just noticed the exs tutorial... great stuff especially since there doesn't seem to be as much out there for logic user relative to other daws..so thank you. Corrinne M. Haskins, M.S., L.Ac. Dipl. Ac., Dipl. C.H. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 at 7:12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Sampled Piano=White Noise
Message #15122
This is a reply to #15116.
--- HKC <hkc@surfpost.dk> wrote: > JP wrote: I recently installed both TBO and the > White Grand pianos from SampleTekk and they play > beautifully.However, I also installed the White > Sister, using the same procedure, and although the > raw samples sound fine, when I call up the piano in > exs all I hear is white noise on every note. > > > I bought the PMI Consolidated Bundle and had the > exact same problem with some of the pianos. I had to > use the EXS manager to repair it along with an > updated instrument from PMI. I too bought EXS manager and I've been using it for hours but can't seem to fix this problem. Do you remember which function of EXS you used? Thanks, JP
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 1:58:27 AM
Subject: Re: Reference change problem
Message #15123
Just an update: My White Sister/White Noise problem was resolved using EXS Manager. Make mine another in that exremely long list of testimonials for this indespensible EXS product. JP
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From: Jim Seaman <jseaman@sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 2:17:51 AM
Subject: [EXS] Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15124
Hi, I received my Garritan Orchestral Srings last week but cannot get the gig files to import or convert to exs files. I copied the Gigasampler files into the Sampler Instruments folder. When I try to load a gig file into the EXS24mkII I get a dialogue box saying: "insufficient access priveledges for operation REULT CODE = - 5000" This happens for each sample I have tried to load. I have set the gig. files to read only and also read and write but this has no effect. I'm not sure if my error is mac, logic or GOS related. I'm using a dual 1gig G4 with L7.1.1 on OS 10.3.9 Thanks for any helpful hints. Jim
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 at 5:49:01 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Can't convert Garritan Orch Stg gig. files to EXS24 format
Message #15125
This is a reply to #15124.
On Feb ,20, 2006, at 3:17 AM, Jim Seaman wrote: > I received my Garritan Orchestral Srings last week but cannot get the > gig files to import or convert to exs files. > I copied the Gigasampler files into the Sampler Instruments folder. > When I try to load a gig file into the EXS24mkII I get a dialogue box > saying: > "insufficient access priveledges for operation > REULT CODE = - 5000" This definitely sounds "permissions" related. Select the whole folder. Under "bet info" set permissions to read and write, unlock the little lock icon, and do the "apply to enclosed items thing". I find this stuff to be a bit of voodoo on occasion. Sometimes it works other times you have to do it two or three times until it takes. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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