I have updated my old version of Logic 6 to Logic 7. I note that some of the EXS instruments and samples that were in the Logic 6 version of EXS are no longer present in the Logic 7 version. The "missing" data are not related to instruments and samples that I had added - but instead to what came as "included" from Apple. Does anyone know whether the "missing" instruments and samples have merely been renamed, have instead been inclued in the Garage Band instruments and samples, or should instead be re-imported into the new folders? Thanks,

I think they took out some good ones and added some new ones, plus reorganizing the folders. I like some of the ones from Logic 6, so I added them to my SamplerInstruments folder and it works fine. - Dave

Greetings All, The other day I opened a Logic song that I had been working on the previous evening, opened up what should have been the EXS24 mkII only to find that it had been replaced with an older version of the EXS24. The EXS24 mkII is nowhere to be found in any projects where I had previously used it. I have permanent authorization for the version of Logic I'm running (Platinum 5.3/Windows 2000) as well as all of the software instruments that were available as of that version. Any idea what happened and how I can get mkII back? Thanks in advance. John F.

Happy holidays samplers.   This shareware bit from www.iceaudio.com may be of interest to some of you sample fiends.  The shareware/donationware program is called Audio Finder.  When you launch the program you can use it's browser to go directly to your audio files or use its Scanner to search for them.  You can use it to extract samples from a file, you can rename them with a single click.  You can loop edit, beat slice, do a bit and sample rate convert, AND it has a cool function caled CONVERT TO EXS24 Instrument function.  Neato! -Terry Michael Huud www.Music4TheMovies.com

Hi, I need to use different modulator settings on sample groups within an instrument. Every other sampler I know of allows this. With EXS24 it seems like all settings are global. Please tell me that I'm wrong and how it can be done in the weird EXS world. Examples: (1) I am working on a hurdy gurdy patch. I would now want to activate the trompette (snare) with the pitch bend wheel. The trompette should play when the wheel is turned up while the midi note is played. With the pb wheel in neutral position it should remain silent. All other Groups (melody, drones) should not be affected in this way. (2) I have a Xylophone that uses a dedicated resonator layer. I want to control the resonator amplitude with the mod wheel. When the wheel is turned up the resonater layer should get louder. The dry beat layer on the other hand should not be affected by the mod wheel. can this be done (using a single instance of the EXS)? Thanks for any help! regards Andreas Sumerauer

I found one parameter in the group box in the editor view that don't understand: The 'select by' parameter has several options: note, group, ctrl, pb I have alredy found out what the options note, group and pb do. (that wasn't too difficult to find out ;-)) but how is the group option meant to be used? Thanks!

http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/emagic/Legacy_SW/ Get V. 5.51 ...? > The other day I opened a Logic song that I had been working on the > previous evening, opened up what should have been the EXS24 mkII only > to find that it had been replaced with an older version of the EXS24. > The EXS24 mkII is nowhere to be found in any projects where I had > previously used it. I have permanent authorization for the version of > Logic I'm running (Platinum 5.3/Windows 2000) as well as all of the > software instruments that were available as of that version. > > Any idea what happened and how I can get mkII back? Thanks in > advance. John F. > Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen <niko@nichtlinear.de> <www.nichtlinear.de>

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Huud@a... wrote: > > Happy holidays samplers.   This shareware bit from www.iceaudio.com may be of > interest to some of you sample fiends.  The shareware/donationware program is > called Audio Finder.  When you launch the program you can use it's browser to > go directly to your audio files or use its Scanner to search for them.  You > can use it to extract samples from a file, you can rename them with a single > click.  You can loop edit, beat slice, do a bit and sample rate convert, AND it > has a cool function caled CONVERT TO EXS24 Instrument function.  Neato! > > -Terry Michael Huud > www.Music4TheMovies.com > Actually it's: http://www.icedaudio.com/ Sonny Keyes Ricochet Post Toronto

Installed the update this evening and it worked like a charm. Thanks for the suggestion Nikolaus! John F. --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, nichtlineareaudioproduktionen <niko_s@w...> wrote: > > http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/emagic/Legacy_SW/ > > Get V. 5.51 ...? > > > The other day I opened a Logic song that I had been working on the > > previous evening, opened up what should have been the EXS24 mkII only > > to find that it had been replaced with an older version of the EXS24. > > The EXS24 mkII is nowhere to be found in any projects where I had > > previously used it. I have permanent authorization for the version of > > Logic I'm running (Platinum 5.3/Windows 2000) as well as all of the > > software instruments that were available as of that version. > > > > Any idea what happened and how I can get mkII back? Thanks in > > advance. John F. > > > > > > Nikolaus Sieveking > nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen > <niko@n...> > <www.nichtlinear.de> >

If there are any Vienna Symphonic Library (VSL) users/fans out there, you'd better strap your jaw into place (to prevent it from hitting the floor) and shoot over to http://www.vsl.co.at/ The Symphonic Cube has been announced and it's beyond anyone's wildest dreams. It consists of a set of special Vienna Instruments which look very clever, and remove EXS24 from the equation. It seems that in order to retain backwards-compatibility with our "old" VSL-EXS24 Instruments in Logic songs, we'll have to keep all the samples and instruments. Regards - Colin

I can't be the only one using Logic for this! :-) I use Logic primarily to audition music I compose for live musicians to perform, mainly in the large ensemble jazz realm. I'm having a heck of a time finding a decent collection of EXS24 instruments to suit this purpose, specifically - trumpet (with and without mutes), flugelhorn, trombone (with and without mutes), bass trombone (with and without mutes), and saxophones from soprano to baritone. From time to time I also need clarinet, bass clarinet, flute, alto flute, English horn, oboe, & French horn. Strings (for this purpose) I've been able to find, as well as good rhythm section instruments, but not good versions of the instruments above. *Somebody* must have a collection of quality samples created for this purpose. Any suggestions? Anything I've found seems to be orchestral, and even then they don't include saxes. Thanks - Bob

Hi there, since 7.1.1 we have the nice feature off showing the name of the loaded patch in the arrange window. But what if I would like to go back to viewing the instrument name instead of the loaded patch? Sometimes I load something called Mellow Strings and then distort the hell out of it so I would like to see Dist Lead and not Mellow Strings. Anybody found how to turn that off? Thanks for the help Cheers Hans

On Nov 27, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Bob Shuster wrote: > I can't be the only one using Logic for this! :-) I use Logic > primarily to > audition music I compose for live musicians to perform, mainly in > the large > ensemble jazz realm. I'm having a heck of a time finding a decent > collection of EXS24 instruments to suit this purpose, specifically > - trumpet > (with and without mutes), flugelhorn, trombone (with and without > mutes), > bass trombone (with and without mutes), and saxophones from soprano to > baritone. From time to time I also need clarinet, bass clarinet, > flute, > alto flute, English horn, oboe, & French horn. Strings (for this > purpose) > I've been able to find, as well as good rhythm section instruments, > but not > good versions of the instruments above. > > > > *Somebody* must have a collection of quality samples created for this > purpose. Any suggestions? Anything I've found seems to be > orchestral, and > even then they don't include saxes. > > > > Thanks - Bob Here you go: http://www.garritan.com/jazz.html I've never used it but it looks good - I'm planning to check it out soon... if you buy it, please report how you like it! - Dave

>since 7.1.1 we have the nice feature off showing the name of the >loaded patch in the arrange window. > >But what if I would like to go back to viewing the instrument name >instead of the loaded patch? Sometimes I load something called Mellow >Strings and then distort the hell out of it so I would like to see >Dist Lead and not Mellow Strings. > >Anybody found how to turn that off? You can always double-click and type over the default. If you save your preset with a new name, it should update.... Regards - Colin

At 1:51 Uhr +0200 28.11.2005, Colin Shapiro wrote: > >But what if I would like to go back to viewing the instrument name >>instead of the loaded patch? Sometimes I load something called Mellow >>Strings and then distort the hell out of it so I would like to see >>Dist Lead and not Mellow Strings. >> >>Anybody found how to turn that off? > >You can always double-click and type over the default. >If you save your preset with a new name, it should update.... Thanks Colin, what I wanna get back is the track showing the Audio Instrument Objects name instead of the name of the loaded instruments. I know I can name the track, but that means I need to from now on name two things the same: the track and audio object. Does this make sense? I didn't think so. Cheers Hans

At 12:23 Uhr -0500 28.11.2005, Eli Krantzberg wrote: >Not necessary. Check out the local view menu in the track mixer. But you do see my point about the feature that's making me change all previous songs, don't you? Cheers Hans

On Nov ,28, 2005, at 2:32 PM, Hans Hafner wrote: > At 12:23 Uhr -0500 28.11.2005, Eli Krantzberg wrote: >> Not necessary. Check out the local view menu in the track mixer. > > But you do see my point about the feature that's making me change all > previous songs, don't you? I know the behaviour changed from v. 6. Now it seems L7 fits in both an instrument name and patch name/track name (if one exists) wherever possible, depending on zoom levels. Personally like the new behaviour. But regardless, you can still easily get what you are looking for. Change it in your autoload once, and then you'll never have to think about it again. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions

At 15:55 Uhr -0500 28.11.2005, Eli Krantzberg wrote: >Now it seems L7 fits in both an instrument name and patch name/track >name (if one exists) wherever possible, depending on zoom levels. >Personally like the new behaviour. But regardless, you can still >easily get what you are looking for. Change it in your autoload >once, and then you'll never have to think about it again. Sorry Eli, something changed from 7.1 to 7.1.1 and that's what I'm talking about. I did like the fact that at a certain zoom level I could see both. But in 7.1.1 it changed to _only_ displaying the patch name instead of the audio object name. Yes, I can change the autoload. Yes, I can flip three switches... (switching the track and instruement in the view in the arrange and then the one in the track mixer) I just don't consider it wise to make me jump through this hoop. The problem are the 50+ sketches that are lying around that I draw upon from time to time. So now when I open them, I have to first take a couple of minutes to figure out what is where. And yes, it isn't such a big deal and from now on I'll just keep quite about it. Thanks Hans

On Nov ,28, 2005, at 4:10 PM, Hans Hafner wrote: > something changed from 7.1 to 7.1.1 and that's what I'm talking > about. I did like the fact that at a certain zoom level I could see > both. > > But in 7.1.1 it changed to _only_ displaying the patch name instead > of the audio object name. ..... when only the "track name" setting is enabled in the arrange window view menu? Or do you mean specifically in the track mixer? I never compared it back to back with pre 7.1.1 versions. But I trust what you say is correct. I think I do remember now that the track mixer display conditions changed in 7.1.1; but I don't remember the arrange display conditions changing. > The problem are the 50+ sketches that are lying around that I draw > upon from time to time. So now when I open them, I have to first take > a couple of minutes to figure out what is where. Yeah, that is a drag. You could try importing the screen sets from your current corrected autoload. But that's also a few additional steps you would need to go through. Six of one, half a dozen of the other, as they say..... > And yes, it isn't such a big deal and from now on I'll just keep > quite about it. Ironically I had a client here today (I do some Logic instruction) asking specifically about this behaviour. And I was sure glad that this little thread had caused me to investigate it a bit more closely over the last day or so than I had before ...... -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions

...Using Logic 7.1.1 and GarageBand 2.02 There is a curious oddity with some of the factory EXS samples. I believe, originally I installed/ updated everything correctly. Short-story: basically the logic factory "clean electric guitar" - cannot find the samples... Any way - here is the problem and solution - thanks to Andrea at Redmatica! http://community.sonikmatter.com/forums/index.php?showtopic034&st=0& ;gopid 2498&#entry172498 http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID40472#1240472 -- Thanks - RevDave CoolCat@hosting4days.com [db-lists]

Bob Shuster wrote: > I can't be the only one using Logic for this! :-) I use Logic primarily to > audition music I compose for live musicians to perform, mainly in the large > ensemble jazz realm. I'm having a heck of a time finding a decent > collection of EXS24 instruments to suit this purpose, specifically - trumpet > (with and without mutes), flugelhorn, trombone (with and without mutes), > bass trombone (with and without mutes), and saxophones from soprano to > baritone. From time to time I also need clarinet, bass clarinet, flute, > alto flute, English horn, oboe, & French horn. Strings (for this purpose) > I've been able to find, as well as good rhythm section instruments, but not > good versions of the instruments above. > > > > *Somebody* must have a collection of quality samples created for this > purpose. Any suggestions? Anything I've found seems to be orchestral, and > even then they don't include saxes. I have a few saxophones available, most in demo form at the moment but hoping to release them as full versions soon -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

Pete Thomas wrote: > I have a few saxophones available, most in demo form at the moment but > hoping to release them as full versions soon They're quite nice, btw. Allways wanted to say thank you but forgot. However, as a package, Garritan Jazz seems to be quite good. Just recently I've been lucky (err...) enough to purchase some left-over "Kick Arse Brass" CD for the EXS (they're now only shipping with a specialized but lousy playback engine), and even if I got it rather cheap I'm not impressed. Not a single "allround" section patch and only single instruments, so if you want to double your leads with, say, another trumpet, you got no choice. And it even becomes apparent if you do, say, a 3 part trumpet section that all the instruments are the same. From what I seem to understand, Garritan has made it just as with GPO, so there's multiple variations of individual instruments available. Just listen to the demos, there's not much yet, but they're not all that bad IMO. Should work rather fine for background section stuff and the occasional stabs. Not too sure about solo stuff when it comes to them horns - but honestly, who would do a programmed sax solo on anything meant to be serious? I certainly wouldn't. - Sascha

These products appear to supply the sounds of various keyboards/synths in sample format. I am curious how good they are. I myself usually just flick through sounds on my Korg Trinity Rack until I find one that I like. I don't really edit them. I usually only edit sounds on my Nord Lead 2 or Logics software synths. I am using the supplied EXS instruments alot these days. As I find them to be very high quality. I would like to buy a big hard drive and fill it with quality sampled instruments. My understanding of sound libraries is that I can have sampled instrument patches which have less sound parameter options because they are samples. Or parameter patches for use with synths. I would love to be able to select different synth patches for my Nord Lead 2 and Logic soft synths and save and organise the ones I like. Maybe I just need to learn how. Is there anywhere people share synth patches? What other products do you guys recommend for giving me more sound options. I'm into more funky organic synth sounds than harsh techno stuff. I also like good bread and butter instruments. The EXS mute guitar is way better than my Korg TR-Racks mute guitars. Peace.

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Hi! Im' using cello (bowed) in a piece and I need some long notes. It happens that they are (shortly) too long and the sample loops from it's beginning during the last (few) milliseconds, so I hear the attack twice. In the "real word" if you play very piano the bow is long enough to allow this (the part will be played by a real player), but now the music has to be listened by my client, before it will "really" played. Which parameters should I use (eg, temporaly, like midi messages, or anything else) to allow long notes? Thanks in advance Gianfrancesco