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From: "Wayne Prue" <wayne@b3sforsale.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 at 7:07:57 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14751
This is a reply to #14750.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@g...> wrote: > Wayne Prue wrote: > > Hi Sascha, I'm on a Mac with Logic Pro 6.4.3 and I downloaded the > > drums and your maps and edited the names as you suggested. I also had > > to change the outputs back to "Main" because I only have two outs in > > my MBox. > > Nonono! > No need to do that. A) the patch will still load fine when using a plain stereo EXS. B) You can use the imdividual outs inside > Logic, routing them into Aux objects (for the outs to appear in the Aux objects input selector you simply have to load the EXS as a > multiout insttrument). That way you got individual (internal) audio channels/faders for each of the individual instruments! > > > Question? Do the names also have to be edited in the .exs file? > > No. > > > Also, should the sample folders be placed in a certain way? I got > > cymbals only for a while but then placed the "Drum kit 1" folder on > > the main directory but now I get nothing. Sorry to be a pain after all > > your efforts. > > It *should* work like this: Place the samples *anywhere* (beside your other EXS samples or whatever), rename the ones with more than > 31 characters accorinf to my descriptions, now load the patch into the EXS. It should find them automatically after a while. > > I'm sorry, can't recreate any Mac related here as I'm using 5.5.1/PC. > Will try things out on the conservatory's Macs one day, but right now they're both used. > > Regards, > Sascha Sascha, thanks again for all your help. I know how busy you are these days converting and map making for other formats as well. Wayne
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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 at 7:21:25 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14752
This is a reply to #14750.
On 28.09.2005, at 11:44, Sascha Franck wrote: >> Also, should the sample folders be placed in a certain way? I got >> cymbals only for a while but then placed the "Drum kit 1" folder on >> the main directory but now I get nothing. Sorry to be a pain after >> all >> your efforts. > > It *should* work like this: Place the samples *anywhere* (beside > your other EXS samples or whatever), rename the ones with more than > 31 characters accorinf to my descriptions, now load the patch into > the EXS. It should find them automatically after a while. > > I'm sorry, can't recreate any Mac related here as I'm using 5.5.1/PC. > Will try things out on the conservatory's Macs one day, but right > now they're both used. Sascha, there is no problem, in Logic 7 it works exactly like you describe it. I used ExsManager and it works also. Perhaps of interest for people with ExsManager: If you don't rename the samples, ExsManager will not take them and shorten the names on its own. You get an error which looks like the samples or the instrument are not working. But just believe what Sacha said and rename the files. Then everything is ok. If Andrea Gozzi is listening here: Maybe you find the time to check ExsManager with sample names longer than 31 characters? So far I have seen it does not correctly react to that. ___ Peter Ostry
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From: "Wayne Prue" <wayne@b3sforsale.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 at 8:40:32 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14753
This is a reply to #14750.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@g...> wrote: > Wayne Prue wrote: > > Hi Sascha, I'm on a Mac with Logic Pro 6.4.3 and I downloaded the > > drums and your maps and edited the names as you suggested. I also had > > to change the outputs back to "Main" because I only have two outs in > > my MBox. > > Nonono! > No need to do that. A) the patch will still load fine when using a plain stereo EXS. B) You can use the imdividual outs inside > Logic, routing them into Aux objects (for the outs to appear in the Aux objects input selector you simply have to load the EXS as a > multiout insttrument). That way you got individual (internal) audio channels/faders for each of the individual instruments! > > > Question? Do the names also have to be edited in the .exs file? > > No. > > > Also, should the sample folders be placed in a certain way? I got > > cymbals only for a while but then placed the "Drum kit 1" folder on > > the main directory but now I get nothing. Sorry to be a pain after all > > your efforts. > > It *should* work like this: Place the samples *anywhere* (beside your other EXS samples or whatever), rename the ones with more than > 31 characters accorinf to my descriptions, now load the patch into the EXS. It should find them automatically after a while. > > I'm sorry, can't recreate any Mac related here as I'm using 5.5.1/PC. > Will try things out on the conservatory's Macs one day, but right now they're both used. > > Regards, > Sascha Hi again Sascha, these drums (listening to the individual samples) sound great and well worth the problems so I'll stick with it but! I've tried everything including directing the project manager. The very first time I load it, I do get the hats but that's it. The next time... nothing. Next I took all the samples out of their individual folders and placed them all in the "Drums 1" folder. Nothing. I've got tons of other instruments and drums in the exs and have never had a problem like this. I tried stereo and multi. I don't think I missed any of the files that needed a name change and followed your instructions carefully. If there are any other Mac guys out there (and I'm on Logic Pro 6.4.3.) that have downloaded the drums and have no problems please let me know. Thanks Wayne
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From: "Wayne Prue" <wayne@b3sforsale.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 at 9:35:15 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14754
This is a reply to #14750.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@g...> wrote: > It *should* work like this: Place the samples *anywhere* (beside your other EXS samples or whatever), rename the ones with more than > 31 characters accorinf to my descriptions, now load the patch into the EXS. It should find them automatically after a while. > > I'm sorry, can't recreate any Mac related here as I'm using 5.5.1/PC. > Will try things out on the conservatory's Macs one day, but right now they're both used. > > Regards, > Sascha :-) NEVER Mind... All is working fine and my mistake was that while removing the -AAX from the files in the hats-2 folder I also removed it from the... HHats-CL-V01-SABIAN-AAX.wav and this was the problem. After double checking all the files, this was the problem. Hope this also helps some other idiot as well. Thanks again Sascha and I'll be looking forward to possible future maps to drums 2 and the extra symbal perfomances if you are so inclined. Egg on his face.. Wayne
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 at 10:26:11 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14755
This is a reply to #14754.
The EXS mapping for kit #2 is done. No sample renaming required this time. http://audioshots.com/auditorium/viewtopic.php?p 246#20246 Cheers, Sascha
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From: Lenny Stearns <lens@planeteleven.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 at 10:35:10 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14756
This is a reply to #14755.
Thanks, Sascha! Great work! - Lenny Quoting Sascha Franck <S.Franck@gmx.de>: > The EXS mapping for kit #2 is done. No sample renaming required this time. > http://audioshots.com/auditorium/viewtopic.php?p 246#20246 > > Cheers, > Sascha > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > EXS Users Group - new web forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 at 10:53:31 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14757
This is a reply to #14755.
Forgot to copy the open hat zones, uploaded a corrected file. Same link as before. - Sascha
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From: "Wayne Prue" <wayne@b3sforsale.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 at 2:00:37 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14758
This is a reply to #14755.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@g...> wrote: > The EXS mapping for kit #2 is done. No sample renaming required this time. > http://audioshots.com/auditorium/viewtopic.php?p 246#20246 > > Cheers, > Sascha That was fast, thanks so much Sascha. These are really good sounding drums. Wayne
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From: Mark Falchook <falchook@att.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 at 7:49:57 PM
Subject: [EXS] Online Free Samples?
Message #14759
Greetings, Though I've had logic for years, I've only started making use of EXS recently, thanks to my new G5. Out of curiousity, are their any sources of free online samples for EXS? Any "mother lodes" I should be aware of? Thanks, -Mark
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From: Alain BERTHE <Alain.Berthe1@pandora.be>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 at 8:42:09 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Online Free Samples?
Message #14760
This is a reply to #14759.
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From: Phil Buckle <pbuckle1@optusnet.com.au>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 6:39:36 AM
Subject: [EXS] TDM ESX V Native EXS
Message #14761
Just wondering if any TDM users of Logic have tested if streaming string samples from a TDM EXS is any more or less CPU or disk I/O intensive than running the exact same thing in Native. My brief tests over the last few days have the native version handling tasks better. Come to think of it does anyone know if VM actually works on the TDM version? I mean it's there in in the prefs but does it actually work? Phil Buckle.
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From: "mfalchook" <falchook@att.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 10:40:21 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Online Free Samples?
Message #14762
This is a reply to #14760.
Thanks Alain!
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 11:17:01 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Online Free Samples?
Message #14763
This is a reply to #14762.
Don't forget the EXS will import soundfonts as well. A good place to start looking for them: www.hammersound.net - has gazillions. - Sascha
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From: "primusluta" <primusluta@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 8:57:12 AM
Subject: [EXS] Packaged Instruments
Message #14764
Finally switching back to logic after too many problems with too many other software companies. I'm looking to fill out my instrument and sample library so I was hoping someone could post a list or link to the list of instruments that come packaged with Logic. Also any reccommendations as to sample libraries I should consider purchasing would be appreciated.
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From: David Gordon <music-pro@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 11:46:31 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] TDM ESX V Native EXS
Message #14765
This is a reply to #14761.
On 9/29/05 4:39 AM, "Phil Buckle" <pbuckle1@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Just wondering if any TDM users of Logic have tested if streaming > string samples from a TDM EXS is any more or less CPU or disk I/O > intensive than running the exact same thing in Native. > My brief tests over the last few days have the native version > handling tasks better. > Come to think of it does anyone know if VM actually works on the TDM > version? I mean it's there in in the prefs but does it actually work? > Phil Buckle. Phil As I understand it, there is no TDM version of EXS. When we insert EXS into a TDM auxiliary track, it is still running native EXS, not running on the TDM chips. The output is still transferred to the TDM mixer by ESB, though not limited to the 8 ESB buses used to transfer the other native instruments. In my tests, I have not seen any difference in how EXS performs whether it¹s in a TDM AUX object or a DTDM Audio Instrument object. I don¹t know the answers to your specific questions about the workings of VM with EXS. * Dave
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 1:06:07 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14766
This is a reply to #14750.
--- Sascha Franck <S.Franck@gmx.de> wrote: > It *should* work like this: Place the samples > *anywhere* (beside your other EXS samples or > whatever), rename the ones with more than > 31 characters accorinf to my descriptions, now load > the patch into the EXS. It should find them > automatically after a while. Excuse me for asking the obvious but: are we changing the name of the samples and not the patches and, if so, how exactly does one do this? Thanks, JP
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 1:21:56 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14767
This is a reply to #14766.
james page wrote: > Excuse me for asking the obvious but: are we changing > the name of the samples and not the patches and, if > so, how exactly does one do this? The patchname stays the same, only the samples have to be renamed. You don't know how to rename filenames on a Mac? Using a PC I don't know either, but I'm sure it's easy to find out... Personally, I'm using a batch renaming tool, makes things easier. Again I'm sure there's something like that for Macs as well. I mean, hey, they "just work"... - Sascha
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From: "mfalchook" <falchook@att.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 1:36:10 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14768
This is a reply to #14767.
On a Mac click the file name once, wait a second, then click it once again. It will then highlight and you can rename it. -Mark
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 1:50:41 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14769
This is a reply to #14767.
> james page wrote: > > Excuse me for asking the obvious but: are we > changing > > the name of the samples and not the patches and, > if > > so, how exactly does one do this? --- Sascha Franck <S.Franck@gmx.de> wrote: > > The patchname stays the same, only the samples have > to be renamed. You don't know how to rename > filenames on a Mac? Using a PC I > don't know either, but I'm sure it's easy to find > out... > Personally, I'm using a batch renaming tool, makes > things easier. Again I'm sure there's something like > that for Macs as well. I > mean, hey, they "just work"... > I know it sounds like a dumb question but i think my real problem is with the sample file that i downloaded. I just remembered that there were 2 choices: A "preferred" one and a "mirrored" one. The preferred ian't working out so I'm in the process of downloading the "mirrored" one. What's the difference? JP
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 2:01:53 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14770
This is a reply to #14769.
> I know it sounds like a dumb question but i think my > real problem is with the sample file that i > downloaded. I just remembered that there were 2 > choices: A "preferred" one and a "mirrored" one. The > preferred ian't working out so I'm in the process of > downloading the "mirrored" one. What's the difference? There's no difference, it's just two different download occasions to take away some server load. Simply make sure to rename the samples as described in my little ReadMe. - Sascha
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 2:27:10 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14771
This is a reply to #14770.
> > I know it sounds like a dumb question but i think > my > > real problem is with the sample file that i > > downloaded. I just remembered that there were 2 > > choices: A "preferred" one and a "mirrored" one. > The > > preferred ian't working out so I'm in the process > of > > downloading the "mirrored" one. What's the > difference? --- Sascha Franck <S.Franck@gmx.de> wrote: > > There's no difference, it's just two different > download occasions to take away some server load. > Simply make sure to rename the samples as described > in my little ReadMe. Well I must be doing something wrong here because when I download (Mac 10.4.2) from either server, it takes over 20 minutes, and it mounts as a 181 mb text file. It opens with text edit and I get pages and pages of printed gibberish but no samples in sight. What have i overlooked this time? Anyone? Thanks, JP
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From: Lenny Stearns <lens@planeteleven.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 2:38:24 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14772
This is a reply to #14771.
The samples file is in a RAR compressed format, and I don't know a lot about Tiger (I'm still in OS9), but I'm pretty sure you need a utility to decompress that file. Otherwise, your system won't know what to do with it. Have you tried to use UnStuffit - isn't it standard in OSX? If that doesn't work, you could go to a shareware site and look for a RAR utility for OSX. Regards, Lenny Quoting james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>: > > > > >> > I know it sounds like a dumb question but i think >> my >> > real problem is with the sample file that i >> > downloaded. I just remembered that there were 2 >> > choices: A "preferred" one and a "mirrored" one. >> The >> > preferred ian't working out so I'm in the process >> of >> > downloading the "mirrored" one. What's the >> difference? > > --- Sascha Franck <S.Franck@gmx.de> wrote: >> >> There's no difference, it's just two different >> download occasions to take away some server load. >> Simply make sure to rename the samples as described >> in my little ReadMe. > > Well I must be doing something wrong here because when > I download (Mac 10.4.2) from either server, it takes > over 20 minutes, and it mounts as a 181 mb text file. > It opens with text edit and I get pages and pages of > printed gibberish but no samples in sight. What have i > overlooked this time? Anyone? > Thanks, JP > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > EXS Users Group - new web forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/EXS/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
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From: Alain BERTHE <Alain.Berthe1@pandora.be>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 3:58:58 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Online Free Samples?
Message #14773
This is a reply to #14763.
Don't forget the EXS will import soundfonts as well. A good place to start looking for them: www.hammersound.net - has gazillions. - Sascha That's true!!! As well as Giga,AKAI,SampleCell (?) & DLS (?) !!! And it does it in a blink of an eye,so...Have fun! Alain
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From: james page <jimmymio@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 4:33:45 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14774
This is a reply to #14772.
--- Lenny Stearns <lens@planeteleven.net> wrote: > The samples file is in a RAR compressed format, and > I don't know a lot about > Tiger (I'm still in OS9), but I'm pretty sure you > need a utility to decompress > that file. Otherwise, your system won't know what > to do with it. Have you > tried to use UnStuffit - isn't it standard in OSX? > If that doesn't work, you > could go to a shareware site and look for a RAR > utility for OSX. That's the step I was missing! Thanks Lenny and of course Sasha. JP
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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 at 5:18:29 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: 2 brilliant free drumkits
Message #14775
This is a reply to #14767.
On 29.09.2005, at 20:21, Sascha Franck wrote: > Personally, I'm using a batch renaming tool, makes things easier. > Again I'm sure there's something like that for Macs as well. FileBuddy ___ Peter Ostry
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