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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@...>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 at 9:35:22 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Newbie help required for EXS files...
Message #14651
This is a reply to #14650.
At 10:23 PM 8/26/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Pleasure to join this Group - I look forward to chatting with others >about sampling and the EXS format! > >Silly Newbie Question #288 : (bear with me here!) > >I'm working with a new guy in my band that is using a PC-based >system, and does not have Logic. It's becoming urgent that we share >the same samples back and forth between us - which means I need a >way to convert some of my EXS format library to .WAV, Reason NNXT or >Soundfont. I've tried playing with a couple demo versions of >programs that claim to transfer EXS file formats to other formats.. >but I'm thoroughly confused and frustrated. Is there a simple way >of doing this on a PC? He uses the following : Sound Forge 7.0, >Reason 2.5 and Acid Pro 5. > >Thanks for whatever hints you can fire my way... really appreciate >it. I'm the authors of one of those programs (Translator). Feel free to ask any specifics to me at my email address. In short, it's easy to convert a folder tree of EXS files to Reason format. Just select the folder on the left, right-click on it, and select Convert As... and select Propellerheads Reason. Then all the .exs files will be converted into .sxt files (Reason). By default all the samples that are referenced by the .exs files will be referenced by the .sxt's. Also, if any of the .exs files include keyswitching or controller switching, they will be separated out into separate .sxt files, since Reason doesn't support these. As well, Release triggers aren't supported by Reason, so they are ignored. Of course the Free version can't do any of this, but the commercial version does. And look in the Translator manual - the Help File; it has all this information in it, under Basic Operation. There's several ways to convert things in Translator, I just picked one of them. Also, it should be noted that if these are commercial libraries, it may not be in their licenses that he can use them. The fact that you are in the same band may alter the situation somewhat, but please do consult the licenses and do what they require you. Converting the sounds doesn't change the license agreements. Garth Hjelte Sampler User
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From: "Peter Johnsom" <peter-j@...>
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 at 4:23:51 AM
Subject: Loop slicing
Message #14652
hi please can some one help me out. if i load a piece of drum audio into exs24 (could be a loop .wav or sample from cd, doesn't matter), is it possible to auto slice it and map it across the keyboard. i know the apple loops tool can find the transients, like recycle (which don't have), but i want to assign each drum hit to a note on the keyboard. i'm using logic pro 7.1. or what's the best way to cut up loops? thanks peter
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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...>
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 at 5:09:08 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Loop slicing
Message #14653
This is a reply to #14652.
At 9:23 Uhr +0000 28.08.2005, Peter Johnsom wrote: >please can some one help me out. if i load a piece of drum audio >into exs24 (could be a >loop .wav or sample from cd, doesn't matter), is it possible to auto >slice it and map it >across the keyboard. i know the apple loops tool can find the >transients, like recycle >(which don't have), but i want to assign each drum hit to a note on >the keyboard. i'm using >logic pro 7.1. or what's the best way to cut up loops? No, don't use the EXS for this. Use Phatmatik Pro, or just convert the loops to Apple Loops, they work great, but differently from Recycle Loops. You won't get MIDI files when using Apple Loops. Really what you wanna get is Phatmatik Pro. It rocks for this kind of application and it's not too taxing on the CPU. Cheers Hans
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From: "Micke Nilsson" <mickenilsson@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 5:22:13 AM
Subject: Urgent!!: latency probs!!
Message #14654
Help, I've got this great pianist in my and studio there's a slight lag between when he hits the keys and when the notes are heard. I'm using a midi keyboard thru mt4 on a G5 1,8 single Mac into Logic 6.4.3 - playing The Old Lady Post piano in exs24...I thought there was a quick fix in the audio hardware window in an earlier version of logic platinum. I checked the manual but sofar to no avail... Please guys - let me know a fix; this should be easy; am I losing my mind? what have i overlooked?...my brain is melting... Thanx, Micke Nilsson
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 6:01:01 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Urgent!!: latency probs!!
Message #14655
This is a reply to #14654.
On Aug ,31, 2005, at 6:22 AM, Micke Nilsson wrote: > Help, I've got this great pianist in my and studio there's a slight lag > between when he hits the keys and when the notes are heard. I'm using > a midi > keyboard thru mt4 on a G5 1,8 single Mac into Logic 6.4.3 - playing > The Old > Lady Post piano in exs24...I thought there was a quick fix in the > audio > hardware window in an earlier version of logic platinum. I checked the > manual but sofar to no avail... Hi Micke, What's not working with going to your audio hardware and drivers prefs page and lowering the buffer setting to 128 or 64 (if possible)? Cause that should do it. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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From: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 at 7:07:00 AM
Subject: File - EXS-List-Policy.txt
Message #14656
--- EXS-Users List Policy --- -- last updated Feb/09/2004 -- This message is automatically sent out once a month to all list members, and to all new members. To unsubscribe from this list simply email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ... If you have any problems please contact the list admins: exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com ********************************************************* Since most EXS users use sample cds, companies are more than welcome to announce new sample CDs they have released. Companies are also more than welcome to announce special offers or discounts/sales they are having on sample CDs, as long as such announcements are not made excessively. To prevent the list from becoming too commercial in nature, we ask that any one person or company only post on-topic advertisements once every 60 days. Advertising any non-EXS related products will be considered spamming and will result in your advertisement being deleted, and your account being banned from the exs-users, logic-users and other related lists. If you are bundling EXS24 or sample cds with non-EXS/sample cd products we request that you first clear your message with the list admins by sending it to exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com , before sending it to the list. ******************************************************** - Please trim your quotes as much as possible - it saves a consider about of space if you don't quote entire messages unnecessarily. - YahooGroups appends several lines of text to each message, plus the list itself adds a few lines of key information to the bottom of each email. We've had a few list members start using extermely long signature lines themselves, so by the time it all adds up a 1 line email could end up with a 25+ line signature appended to it. Unfortunately we have no control over YahooGroup's own signature line. We have shortened the list's own signature, and to further reduce clutter we are asking all list members to not use an email signature of more than 5-10 lines. We also ask that you don't include too many links or advertisements, or anything else deemed offensive (such as political quotes). The list moderators will contact you at their discretion if there is a problem with your email signature. - Members who disregard these requests will be moderated and asked to correct offending messages before they can be posted to the list. - Sharing illegal samples on the list, or asking for people to trade with, is not allowed. Please be aware that we highly value intellectual property and anyone who breaks this rule will be banned. - This is an international list. All messages need to be written in English so everyone can communicate together. Please do not send messages written in other languages. - Please keep all messages sent to the list somewhat EXS/sampling related. Anything extremely off topic should be sent to Logic-OT also here on Yahoo Groups, which is our communal "Emagic off topic" list. This includes political discussions. - No Mac/PC or OS flame wars. EXS-related Mac vs PC discussions will be allowed on this list, though any individuals who fail to discuss this subject calmly and become too vicious will be removed from the list. *** All threads in this vein will need to remain on topic (directly relating to EXS). *** - We also manage several other Emagic-related mailing lists, all hosted by YahooGroups: Logic-Users, Logic-TDM, Logic-OT, and SoundDiver-Users. Simply email (list-name)-subscribe@yahoogroups.com to subscribe to any of our other lists. Thanks, the EXS-Users Admin Team exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com
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From: Frank Valet <frank.valet@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 at 3:50:23 PM
Subject: Re: Urgent!!: latency probs!!
Message #14657
>> > > Hi Micke, > > What's not working with going to your audio hardware and drivers prefs > page and lowering the buffer setting to 128 or 64 (if possible)? Cause > that should do it. > > > -------- > Eli Krantzberg > http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com > Almat Productions Another thing, maybe you can try it also (it worked for me, since I couldn't get lower with the buffer setting than 128, to avoid pops and clicks): Try if you can set the process buffer lower, also in the audio hardware and drivers prefs, default is: "middle" i believe, try "small"! It helped me a lot to increase the responsiveness of my System! No Problems, clicks or pops! Regards, Frank Valet
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From: "mandcmiller" <mandcmiller@...>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 at 4:08:10 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: Drums for the EXS
Message #14658
This is a reply to #14635.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hollow Sun <steve@h...> wrote: > > Getting the hats to cut one > > another off as per a live drummer is also achieved and saved at a song > > level by giving the hats it's own EXS with voices set to 1 (even for > > stereo samples) - but you probably already know that. > That's the point > > Whilst you can do 'mute grouping' by setting an instance to mono, *all* the > samples in that instance will be mono giving rise to unnatural 'machine gun' > triggering which was the point of the original message - to have each sample > (open, closed, medium, foot... whatever) play 'polyphonically' but also be > mutually exclusive whereby the closed will shut off the open. It's as simple > as that but it seems that EXS is lacking in that area (as Sascha appears to > confirm). Sorry if this has already been suggested, but what if you were to assign the hihats twice within the same instrument (let's say an octave apart); assign each set of hats to it's own group; and each group set to one voice. You can get the polyphonic effect by alternating notes (Bb2 / Bb3) and mute notes when desired by triggering within the same group. You could also add a zone per group without a sample loaded for use as a silent mute, instead of using a closed hihat. If you want to get fancy, you could even alter the pitch and or/pan slightly of the second HiHat set to create a more natural feel. Or better yet, use a 'b' version (sample) of each HiHat assigned to the second group. Matt http://www.millertone.com
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From: "Micke Nilsson" <mickenilsson@...>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 at 12:03:28 AM
Subject: Many Thanx Eli and Frank!!!
Message #14659
Hi Micke, > >What's not working with going to your audio hardware and drivers prefs >page and lowering the buffer setting to 128 or 64 (if possible)? Cause >that should do it. > > >-------- >Eli Krantzberg >http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com >Almat Productions >Another thing, maybe you can try it also (it worked for me, since I >couldn't get lower with the buffer setting than 128, to avoid pops >and clicks): >Try if you can set the process buffer lower, also in the audio >hardware and drivers prefs, >default is: "middle" i believe, try "small"! It helped me a lot to >increase the responsiveness of my System! No Problems, clicks or pops! >Regards, Frank Valet Many thanx, Eli and Frank!! That did the trick...I got my beautifully played/recorded piano. Cheers,Micke
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 at 7:05:28 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Drums for the EXS
Message #14660
This is a reply to #14658.
mandcmiller wrote: > Sorry if this has already been suggested, but what if you were to assign the hihats twice > within the same instrument (let's say an octave apart); assign each set of hats to it's own > group; and each group set to one voice. You can get the polyphonic effect by alternating > notes (Bb2 / Bb3) and mute notes when desired by triggering within the same group. You > could also add a zone per group without a sample loaded for use as a silent mute, instead > of using a closed hihat. If you want to get fancy, you could even alter the pitch and or/pan > slightly of the second HiHat set to create a more natural feel. Or better yet, use a 'b' > version (sample) of each HiHat assigned to the second group. Well, this is just another workaround. It's also just partially polyphonic as, in case you were alternating between your hats, eacht third hit would again cut the first one (so on longer ringing samples it'd again be insufficient). Also, it's a plague to edit such patterns. I prefer having my individual drum instruments on one key only. Btw, the issue has been adressed in Battery 2, which I just got. It has become a truly great drum sampler now (allways had some complaints about version 1), I can highly recommend it. Until the appearance of Drum 9 I will never use anything else for samplebased drums anymore. Regards, Sascha
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From: "wboletta" <wlb@...>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 at 10:33:38 PM
Subject: EXSP24 Instrument Editor???
Message #14661
I am trying to use the virtual instrument samples in Peter Siedlaczek's Advanced Orchestra collection. They have recently been optimized for EXS users and can be used in Logic. But I cannot locate most of the intruments. I am using Logic Express 7.1 and I cannot find the Edit menu within the EXSP 24 window. This is necessary because the various instruments have files originally based on hardware concepts that require you to press a physical key on a controller to choose certain instruments. In order to see these keys, you have to edit the instrument in the EXSP 24 window from the Edit menu. I can't find such a menu and I can't figure out how to get to an sampler edit window anywhere. I'd appreciate any pointers. Bill Boletta
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From: "markdvc2002" <mark@...>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 at 1:05:43 AM
Subject: Re: EXSP24 Instrument Editor???
Message #14662
This is a reply to #14661.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "wboletta" <wlb@g...> wrote: > > I am using Logic Express 7.1 and I cannot find the Edit menu within the EXSP 24 window. This > is necessary because the various instruments have files originally based on hardware > concepts that require you to press a physical key on a controller to choose certain > instruments. > YOu can't see what isn't there, I am afraid. The EXSP is a sample player. In order to be able to edit you need the full EXS24, which is part of the Logic Pro package. You can upgrade from express to pro. HTH, kind regards Mark Cahill
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From: "wboletta" <wlb@...>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 at 2:51:21 AM
Subject: Re: EXSP24 Instrument Editor???
Message #14663
This is a reply to #14662.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "markdvc2002" <mark@l...> wrote: > YOu can't see what isn't there, I am afraid. The EXSP is a sample > player. In order to be able to edit you need the full EXS24, which is > part of the Logic Pro package. You can upgrade from express to pro. > > HTH, kind regards > > Mark Cahill So that's what the P stands for. Thanks for this info. I kind of suspected as much. I've been putting it off, but I guess I'll have to face the inevitable and fork over another $700 bucks since the kinds of things I'm doing now obviously require the big daddy version. Meanwhile I just learned that the Garritan sample library can now be used in GarageBand, which is hardly Logic Pro but a great deal more fun. Wouldn't it be nice if Apple could just somehow merge all their music software in to something as easy to use as GB yet with all the bells and whistles of Logic Pro with an asking price under $500. Dream on! Thanks again, Bill Boletta
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@...>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 at 8:00:20 AM
Subject: TDM OS9 Channelstrip plugin free (voluntary donation)
Message #14664
Channelstrip|SP for TDM OS9 licence I didn't manage to sell the licence with my last studio clearance, so I'm offering this absolutely free (except postage if you want the CD) This is the TDM Plugin mixpack v3.0 that came bundled with Protools 5. I believe this can be upgraded to OS X TDM or OS X native (You can also have any of the other CDs and manuals that came with this, including D-Verb and Waves Supertap - will transfer licences if possible) All I ask is that once the licence transfer is successful you make a donation of whatever you like to the Red Cross Katrina fund. I have some musician friends who have lost their house. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments
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From: "harlynstudios" <paul.harlyn@...>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 at 10:21:11 AM
Subject: free Koestler Rigoletto sample from precisionsound.net
Message #14665
Has anyone downloaded the free Koestler Rigoletto samples from precisionsound.net It is a great sounding old pump organ, but they only released it for Halion and Kontact. 99 samples 2 instruments 60 megs If anyone has mapped it to ESX24 and would be willing to share that wouldd be great. Thanks Paul Harlyn pro 7.1 G4 DP867 motu2408
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 at 6:12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] free Koestler Rigoletto sample from precisionsound.net
Message #14666
This is a reply to #14665.
Can't find it on their site. Any pointers? Regards, Sascha
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From: Glenn Gutierrez <yahooo@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 at 12:39:22 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] free Koestler Rigoletto sample from
Message #14667
This is a reply to #14666.
At 3:21 PM +0000 2005.09.07, harlynstudios wrote: >Has anyone downloaded the free Koestler Rigoletto samples from >precisionsound.net >It is a great sounding old pump organ, but they only released it >for Halion and Kontact. 99 samples 2 instruments 60 megs >If anyone has mapped it to ESX24 and would be willing to share that >wouldd be great. At 1:12 AM +0200 2005.09.08, Sascha Franck wrote: >Can't find it on their site. Any pointers? Left column, next to the bold, red, italic "Free!" Or http://www.store.precisionsound.net/survey_2005.php ;) I downloaded the Kontakt version, but I'm actually more interested in the free "Red Grand" toy piano nearby. I've needed a good toy piano before, and never did find a good one. But it's in SoundFont format, so here be challenge #2. G
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 at 1:30:32 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] free Koestler Rigoletto sample from precisionsound.net
Message #14668
This is a reply to #14667.
Glenn Gutierrez wrote: > Left column, next to the bold, red, italic "Free!" Oops, my bad. Anyways, they're asking you to file some survey to get you to the link (or to send you a mail with a link, no idea), but when I press "submit" all coming up would be a warning, telling me: "Email" must be email. Stupid. Of course I entered a valid adress... I think I'd remap things for the EXS, but I haven't got enough time to deal with stupid website scripts. > I downloaded the Kontakt version, but I'm actually more interested in > the free "Red Grand" toy piano nearby. I've needed a good toy piano > before, and never did find a good one. But it's in SoundFont format, > so here be challenge #2. Why? The EXS is loading soundfonts. Regards, Sascha
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From: Benjamin Wild <wildjamin@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 at 2:53:56 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] free Koestler Rigoletto sample from precisionsound.net
Message #14669
This is a reply to #14668.
the redgrand converts (trag the .exe to stuffit expander first) and sounds nice&cool, but the koestler won't.. it has the .sfz files (2 of them) seperated from the wavs (they are not included..) I wrote precisionsound.net a mail and will tell you, if you don't tell me before, how it will work in logic.. thanks for the tip.. benjamin wild wildjamin.de
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From: Gordon Ross <g.ross@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 at 5:51:53 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] free Koestler Rigoletto sample from precisionsound.net
Message #14670
This is a reply to #14669.
The koestler converter fine for me, I downloaded the PSKR.exe file and dragged it to Stuffit Expander which created a folder containing the samples and folders containing Halion and Kontakt instruments. The redgrand produced a .sf2 file which I wasn't sure what to do with. G On 8 Sep 2005, at 08:53, Benjamin Wild wrote: > the redgrand converts (trag the .exe to stuffit expander first) and > sounds nice&cool, but the koestler won't.. > it has the .sfz files (2 of them) seperated from the wavs (they are > not included..) > > I wrote precisionsound.net a mail and will tell you, if you don't > tell me before, how it will work in logic.. > thanks for the tip.. > > benjamin wild > wildjamin.de > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Audio recording schools Audio production school Audio production > schools > Audio visual rental Audio visual equipment rental Audio production > college > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "exs-users" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >
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From: Benjamin Wild <wildjamin@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 at 10:21:04 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] free Koestler Rigoletto sample from precisionsound.net
Message #14671
This is a reply to #14670.
> > The redgrand produced a .sf2 file which I wasn't sure what to do with. put it in your user Library/Application Support/Logic/Sampler Instruments-folder and open it with exs24 - they will be converted by doing so.. benjamin
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From: "HKC" <hkc@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 at 12:52:49 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] free Koestler Rigoletto sample from precisionsound.net
Message #14672
This is a reply to #14671.
Ehhh the original message was, has anybody converted it to EXS.
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From: Benjamin Wild <wildjamin@...>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 at 2:48:18 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] free Koestler Rigoletto sample from precisionsound.net
Message #14673
This is a reply to #14672.
> Ehhh the original message was, has anybody converted it to EXS. I tried, but how does it work, to have release samples ? (in logic 7.1 pro / tiger) I tried with one or two groops (pressed/released), but release won't function the way I expect.. benjamin
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From: jake holmes <jakholm@...>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 at 6:39:20 AM
Subject: Re: free Koestler Rigoletto sample from precisionsound.net
Message #14674
On Sep 9, 2005, at 4:02 AM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com wrote: >> >> The redgrand produced a .sf2 file which I wasn't sure what to do with. > > put it in your user Library/Application Support/Logic/Sampler > Instruments-folder and open it with exs24 - they will be converted by > doing so.. > > benjamin What about Rigoletto? Once that is opened, how do you convert either the Halion or the Kontakt files to EXS? Jake
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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@...>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 at 8:38:44 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: free Koestler Rigoletto sample from
Message #14675
This is a reply to #14674.
At 07:39 AM 9/9/2005 -0400, you wrote: >On Sep 9, 2005, at 4:02 AM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > >> > >> The redgrand produced a .sf2 file which I wasn't sure what to do with. > > > > put it in your user Library/Application Support/Logic/Sampler > > Instruments-folder and open it with exs24 - they will be converted by > > doing so.. > > > > benjamin > >What about Rigoletto? Once that is opened, how do you convert either >the Halion or the Kontakt files to EXS? EXS doesn't convert either of these file types. You need a third party convertor; you can buy one, which probably is best in the best run, or you can use a demo to do one conversion, if it allows it. Garth Hjelte Sampler User
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