Gio wrote: > Hi Gang, > OK, I'm getting repetitive of my tired old piano samples. I've overused > the EXS's Yamaha Grand, which is a great patch IMHO. > Also Old (and somewhat Tinny) is my Prosonus Steinway Grand (AKAI disk) > What other great samples are out there that you guys would recommend > for me to look into to spruce up my Piano library? > I realize that a piano is a piano, but some different samples help the > palate of colours. > Thanks y'all > Ciao > Gio Post Pianos Bosendorfer 290 (better than Old Lady or Emperor IMO) -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

> Gio wrote: > > Hi Gang, > > OK, I'm getting repetitive of my tired old piano > samples. I've overused > > the EXS's Yamaha Grand, which is a great patch > IMHO. > > Also Old (and somewhat Tinny) is my Prosonus > Steinway Grand (AKAI disk) > > What other great samples are out there that you > guys would recommend > > for me to look into to spruce up my Piano library? > > I realize that a piano is a piano, but some > different samples help the > > palate of colours. --- Pete Thomas <logic@...> wrote: > > > Post Pianos Bosendorfer 290 (better than Old Lady or > Emperor IMO) Buy Synthogy's Ivory, it's the best piano plugin there is period. Whyman Baker (London - England)

> Gio wrote: >> Hi Gang, >> OK, I'm getting repetitive of my tired old piano samples. I've >> overused >> the EXS's Yamaha Grand, which is a great patch IMHO. >> Also Old (and somewhat Tinny) is my Prosonus Steinway Grand (AKAI >> disk) >> What other great samples are out there that you guys would recommend >> for me to look into to spruce up my Piano library? >> I realize that a piano is a piano, but some different samples help the >> palate of colours. >> Thanks y'all >> Ciao >> Gio > On Jul 15, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Pete Thomas wrote: > > Post Pianos Bosendorfer 290 (better than Old Lady or Emperor IMO) > > > -- > Pete Thomas > www.petethomas.co.uk > - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments Thanksw Pete, I'll check it out Ciao Gio

>On Jul 15, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Pete Thomas wrote: > > > > Post Pianos Bosendorfer 290 (better than Old Lady or Emperor IMO) I love the Post 290 for jazz, classical, or new-age type stuff, but even the dry version is pretty ambient and can be problematic in a pop or rock setting. I like the Sampletekk White Grand for that, and the Vintaudio C7 is nice also. And for melancholy stuff, the Art Vista Malmsjo is great.

OK, I'm getting tired of my old repetitive piano samples. Good point, so you've got a mac and logic, exs, soundfonts'n pluggins? Collect instruments, like on Pete's site, start creating instruments with Sculpture... What do want to do? Arrange? Compose? Perform? I do not see your point, what's a piano anyway? An ancient animal? Mac and Logic are actually presenting us the opportunity to conduct the orchestra in need P.S: Arnold Schönberg's "Harmonielehre", last page: "Klangfarbenmelodien,daraus möchte ich komponieren"

Perry Bradley | Film Director | Syd | +612 9698 0122 Akl | +649 373 2895 Mob | +6429 2460775 | | www.filmconstruction.com | © 2004 Film Construction Ltd. Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. -----Original Message----- From: exs-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exs-users@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sat 16/07/2005 11:35 PM To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: [EXS] Digest Number 1710 There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. [exs-users] Piano samples for the EXS From: Gio <gio@...> 2. Re: [exs-users] Piano samples for the EXS From: Pete Thomas <logic@...> 3. Re: [exs-users] Piano samples for the EXS From: Whyman Baker <ogilvy64@...> 4. Re: [exs-users] Piano samples for the EXS From: Gio <gio@...> 5. Re: Re: [exs-users] Piano samples for the EXS From: Sean McCoy <osr@...> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:50:10 -0500 From: Gio <gio@...> Subject: [exs-users] Piano samples for the EXS Hi Gang, OK, I'm getting repetitive of my tired old piano samples. I've overused the EXS's Yamaha Grand, which is a great patch IMHO. Also Old (and somewhat Tinny) is my Prosonus Steinway Grand (AKAI disk) What other great samples are out there that you guys would recommend for me to look into to spruce up my Piano library? I realize that a piano is a piano, but some different samples help the palate of colours. Thanks y'all Ciao Gio ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:04:39 +0100 From: Pete Thomas <logic@...> Subject: Re: [exs-users] Piano samples for the EXS Gio wrote: > Hi Gang, > OK, I'm getting repetitive of my tired old piano samples. I've overused > the EXS's Yamaha Grand, which is a great patch IMHO. > Also Old (and somewhat Tinny) is my Prosonus Steinway Grand (AKAI disk) > What other great samples are out there that you guys would recommend > for me to look into to spruce up my Piano library? > I realize that a piano is a piano, but some different samples help the > palate of colours. > Thanks y'all > Ciao > Gio Post Pianos Bosendorfer 290 (better than Old Lady or Emperor IMO) -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:07:34 +0100 (BST) From: Whyman Baker <ogilvy64@...> Subject: Re: [exs-users] Piano samples for the EXS > Gio wrote: > > Hi Gang, > > OK, I'm getting repetitive of my tired old piano > samples. I've overused > > the EXS's Yamaha Grand, which is a great patch > IMHO. > > Also Old (and somewhat Tinny) is my Prosonus > Steinway Grand (AKAI disk) > > What other great samples are out there that you > guys would recommend > > for me to look into to spruce up my Piano library? > > I realize that a piano is a piano, but some > different samples help the > > palate of colours. --- Pete Thomas <logic@...> wrote: > > > Post Pianos Bosendorfer 290 (better than Old Lady or > Emperor IMO) Buy Synthogy's Ivory, it's the best piano plugin there is period. Whyman Baker (London - England) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:08:58 -0500 From: Gio <gio@...> Subject: Re: [exs-users] Piano samples for the EXS > Gio wrote: >> Hi Gang, >> OK, I'm getting repetitive of my tired old piano samples. I've >> overused >> the EXS's Yamaha Grand, which is a great patch IMHO. >> Also Old (and somewhat Tinny) is my Prosonus Steinway Grand (AKAI >> disk) >> What other great samples are out there that you guys would recommend >> for me to look into to spruce up my Piano library? >> I realize that a piano is a piano, but some different samples help the >> palate of colours. >> Thanks y'all >> Ciao >> Gio > On Jul 15, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Pete Thomas wrote: > > Post Pianos Bosendorfer 290 (better than Old Lady or Emperor IMO) > > > -- > Pete Thomas > www.petethomas.co.uk > - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments Thanksw Pete, I'll check it out Ciao Gio ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:43:26 -0700 From: Sean McCoy <osr@...> Subject: Re: Re: [exs-users] Piano samples for the EXS >On Jul 15, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Pete Thomas wrote: > > > > Post Pianos Bosendorfer 290 (better than Old Lady or Emperor IMO) I love the Post 290 for jazz, classical, or new-age type stuff, but even the dry version is pretty ambient and can be problematic in a pop or rock setting. I like the Sampletekk White Grand for that, and the Vintaudio C7 is nice also. And for melancholy stuff, the Art Vista Malmsjo is great. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ EXS* Users Group - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> OK, I'm getting tired of my old repetitive piano samples. www.sampletekk.com Both downloadable samples + biiiig libraries on DVD. Right now, 50% discount on all downloadbles so pianos come from $25! Worra SampleTekk

Hello EXS users, Bolder Sounds has a free sound bank for the EXS at it's *new* website. I've just finished up the Hammered Dulcimer Trilogy set for the EXS 24. It includes a Cimbalom, Concert Grand Hammered Dulcimer and a standard 2 Course Hammered Dulcimer. There are numerous mp3 demos at the Bolder site of this Trilogy. So this freebe sound-set is right in line with that family of instruments.... this is the baby of the family. This instrument is designed as a child's toy. It is supplied with a guitar pick and some sheets that slide underneath the string telling you which strings to pluck from left to right. Featuring such hits as "Darling Clementine, Aura Lee" etc... It doesn't have a grandiose sound, but it certainly is somewhat distinct. It's range is 2 octaves in the key of G. Music Maker for EXS 24 31 MB of 24 bit stereo samples. 24.6 MB zipped http://www.boldersounds.com/ Feel free to write me with any questions you might have. Have fun! Dennis @ Bolder

Sorry for the major screwup folks, but I did not include the EXS instrument files with the zipped samples. As soon as I get a hold of my web-wizard I'll get them posted as a separate download (it's only 7kb zipped). My apologies for the inconvenience! Dennis @ Bolder http://www.boldersounds.com/

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "boldersounds2003" <dennis@B...> wrote: > Hello EXS users, > > Bolder Sounds has a free sound bank for the EXS at it's *new* website. > > > I've just finished up the Hammered Dulcimer Trilogy set for the EXS > 24. > It includes a Cimbalom, Concert Grand Hammered Dulcimer and a standard > 2 Course Hammered Dulcimer. There are numerous mp3 demos at the Bolder > site of this Trilogy. So this freebe sound-set is right in line > with that family of instruments.... this is the baby of the family. > > This instrument is designed as a child's toy. It is supplied with a > guitar pick and some sheets that slide underneath the string telling > you which strings to pluck from left to right. Featuring such hits as > "Darling Clementine, Aura Lee" etc... It doesn't have a grandiose > sound, but it certainly is somewhat distinct. It's range is 2 octaves > in the key of G. > > Music Maker for EXS 24 > 31 MB of 24 bit stereo samples. 24.6 MB zipped > http://www.boldersounds.com/ > > Feel free to write me with any questions you might have. Have fun! > Dennis @ Bolder Uh those dulcimers do sound good but the site says that they are NOT free. Not horribly expensive, but not free. Bob Vandiver

Bob Vandiver wrote: >Uh those dulcimers do sound good but the site says that they are NOT >free. Not horribly expensive, but not free. I also wondered about that, then realised it's the "MusicMaker" which is free. To Dennis: Thanks for the freebie. Your read-me says 31Mb of samples, but the zip file expands to just over 25Mb. Is that right? Regards - Colin

> To Dennis: > Thanks for the freebie. Your read-me says 31Mb of samples, but the > zip file expands to just over 25Mb. Is that right? > > Regards - Colin Colin, I realized I took the sample size of the Music Maker from my Kontakt version which for some reason is bigger. I'm not sure why though... I must have edited out a sample or trimmed them more in the EXS version. Thanks for pointing it out though, I'll change the info on the website. The next time I post a sound for the EXs it will be TRIPLE checked :) Dennis

> > Music Maker for EXS 24 > > 31 MB of 24 bit stereo samples. 24.6 MB zipped > > http://www.boldersounds.com/ > > > > Feel free to write me with any questions you might have. Have fun! > > Dennis @ Bolder > > Uh those dulcimers do sound good but the site says that they are NOT > free. Not horribly expensive, but not free. > > Bob Vandiver Just to clarify things.... The Music Maker sampled instrument for the EXS IS a FREE download. The Hammered Dulcimer Trilogy is NOT free. So there are free sounds at the Bolder Site listed under FREE Sound Libraries (many of them) and there are sound collections which are for sale as well. Dennis @ Bolder

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Wayne Prue" <wayne@b...> wrote: > "Sonny Keyes" <sonnykeyes@s...> wrote: > > > I saw this on another group and thought I should share: > > > > http://www.naturalstudio.co.uk/sampled.html > > > > Thanks to Berni T on the Pro Tools group for pointing > > this out! > #Hi Sonny, these are great for jazz, I love them ;-) these sound great , for free.

Hi All: I'm wondering whether someone here might be able to help me solve a vexing sample organization problem. What happened is that I bought 25 gigs worth of instruments and samples from a friend, who brought them over on an external FW drive. I hooked it up to my Powerbook and dragged all that stuff to my external FW drive. Then I took the instruments off that drive and put them in this folder: /Library/Application Support/Logic/Sampler Instruments. Then, after I experienced a half-hour wait when loading one of the new EXS instruments once or twice, I went into Project Manager, selected the Sampler Instruments folder and chose "Find unresolved file references for selected items". Initially, I got error messages along the lines of "you don't have permission to change this file". I went and changed permissions on the relevant disks/folders, which solved that problem. But the instruments and files remained stubbornly unlinked. Then I bought EXS Manager from Redmatica, set it to relink the Sampler Instruments folder and the folder on my FW drive that contains all these new samples and let it do its thing. Still didn't work. Any ideas? I've read some confusing things in the LUG and EXS archives, as well as in other places online, about putting aliases in folders, but I didn't really get it. Do I need to do that? Tia ~ mike

On Jul 24, 2005, at 12:23 AM, heykaboom wrote: > Hi All: > I'm wondering whether someone here might be able to help me solve a > vexing sample > organization problem. > > Then I bought EXS Manager from Redmatica, set it to relink the Sampler > Instruments folder > and the folder on my FW drive that contains all these new samples > and let it do > its thing. > Still didn't work. Hi Mike, contact me at agoz@... so that we can solve your problem. Best Regards Andrea at Redmatica

Does anyone know how I can get a copy of the factory EXS24 Sampler Instruments (and related samples) that shipped with the first version of the EXS24? Thanks!

Hi, This is my first post to this group. I finally have a problem I can't solve by either searching previous messages or by reading the manual. I have Logic Pro 7.1 and GigaStudio Orchestra 3. Gigastudio comes with two discs of samples from the Vienna Symphonic Library. On the discs, the samples are stored in two folders, 16 bit and 24 bit. Following the procedure in the Logic manual, I am trying to convert these samples and instruments to the EXS format. I loaded the files into the Sample Instrument folder in the Application Support folder of my user Library folder. I open an instrument in the EXS, and it converts the instrument and samples. Here is the problem. The instruments in the 16 bit folder convert extremely well. However, the instruments in the 24 bit folder do not convert correctly. The samples convert just fine, since I can load them into the audio window and play them. It is the instrument files that are getting mangled. For example, none of the key mapping seems to be converted correctly, since playing any pitch on the keyboard produces the same pitch. Also, when the instrument is a violin pitzz., the sound that results is a sustained violin. All the Giga instruments are bank files. The structure of the files seems to convert correctly, since the EXS instrument has the .bk ending and each bank contains the correct instruments. Is there something I am missing in the conversion process? I have a 1.8 GHz G5 with OS X 10.4.2, 2 gigs of Ram. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Ciro Dr. Ciro G. Scotto Associate Professor of Theory Eastman School of Music 26 Gibbs St. Rochester, NY 14604 office: (716) 274-1562 home: (716) 244-5396 e-mail: cscotto@... cscotto1@... WEB PAGE: http://theory.esm.rochester.edu/ciro_scotto/ "Those who can get you to believe absurdities can get you to commit atrocities."

Ciro Scotto wrote: > Hi, > > This is my first post to this group. I finally have a problem I can't > solve by either searching previous messages or by reading the manual. > I have Logic Pro 7.1 and GigaStudio Orchestra 3. Gigastudio comes > with two discs of samples from the Vienna Symphonic Library. On the > discs, the samples are stored in two folders, 16 bit and 24 bit. EXS24 will only convert Giga 1 and 2 sixteen bit files AFAIK. I gather that Nemesys is not so keen on allowing conversion of Giga3 format files.

Hello everyone! Just to say that I put some free drum´n´bass exs24 instruments in my website. Please fell free to download and comment them. Thanks. Miguel Santos www.ourafilmes.com

Hi Michiel, I updated the Emperor and used EXS manager. It still says I'm missing a sample. EXS manager agrees. 31s emp A0.wav. Is there a way to get this sample? Thanks, julie www.julielarson.net

Hi everyone Just wondering if anyone is using this drum sample collection with the EXS24 mkII. Overall its great but i've had a few problems with glitches in the samples. For instance, a click or pop that occasionally turns up at the very ends of individual samples. Or pressing a key to trigger one sample and having another one trigger involuntarily during the tail of the first sample. There's nothing wrong with the audio files as I can audition them outside of Logic and they're clean. It seems to be velocity related too; ie, doesn't happen with a soft press but a harder one causes a glitch. The first one I could imagine could be a RAM or buffer problem, but this happens when I have literally nothing loaded at all. Completely empty song, only one instance of EXS and just pressing one key at a time. Anyone have any ideas? Could this be an error during conversion? They are AKAI samples that i imported. I've trashed the whole lot and imported again before, but didn't seem to make a difference.... could a file be corrupted?? Thanks, James Logic Platinum 5.5.1 1.4ghz Intel Pentium 4 Windows XP 512MB RAM

Hi, So I'm mapping up some hihat samples. I want the closed hat to mute the open hat (easy, assign both to a group, voice count to 1). However, I want to be able to play the open hat polyphonically as it sounds much better. There was a documented 'trick' from here a while ago that made this possible, and I'm trying to set this up but the behaviour of the EXS24 is strange. The trick is this: add a new zone to play another sample on the same key as the closed hat. The volume of this sample will ultimately be zero but for now we'd like to hear it. So every time you play a closed hat, two samples/voices are playing. Increase the number of voices on the group to two. Now when you play the open hat, it's two note polyphonic, but when you play the closed hat, as it plays two voices it should cut off any already sounding voices. You can increase the number of voices to 3,4 etc as long as you add extra null samples to the closed hat sound. Now this is all well and good, and seems to work for loads of people, but not here. With the 2 voice example, if I hit the open hat and leave it to ring, then hit the closed hat, instead of the open hat stopping and the two closed hat samples playing instead, only one of the closed hat sounds (the lowest zone) and the other sample clicks. The open hat keeps sounding until it decays. The EXS24 is not reassigning voices that are currently sounding in order to play new notes. Is there something I'm missing to get this working? This is Mac Logic 7.0. This behaviour is the same in Mac Logic Pro 6.4.2 and also exactly the same in PC Logic 5.5.1 SO it *must* be something I'm doing wrong, although I haven't a clue what...? Many thanks for reading and help would be appreciated.

This is really frustrating! *Every* synth/keyboard etc I've ever known will cut off old notes in order to play new notes when the polyphony is low. I'd be grateful if anyone could try out this: - create a new instrument, and load it into the exs - create two zones on c1, one shot - create one zone on d1, one shot - load in two short samples to the c1 zones, make them different enough so you can hear that they are both triggered. a closed hi hat and a kick sample are good - load in a longer sample, an open hat or something Set the EXS24 to polyphonic, and set the voices value to 2, so we have 2-voice polyphony. Ok, now when you play a C1, you will hear the two-sample layer, and the voice display will show two while the note plays. When you play D1, the voice will show one, as D1 plays one sample/voice. *Now*, and this is the kicker:- Play a D1, and then while it's decaying, play a C1. What in my view should happen is that the older note (the decaying open hat) should be cut off in order to play the C1 which requires all two voices to play. But in 5.5.1 up to 7.0 here, the open hat continues to decay - the new C1 note is played but only one sample/zone plays correctly, the sample on the other zone clicks but is not played. So, does this happen for you? And if so, this behaviour seems to be wrong?! And it would make the polyphonic hats tip mentioned before that seemed to work for so many people completely wrong and not workable. So, for todays' prize, what obvious thing am I doing wrong and how can I have one of those d'oh! moments and get this thing working...? Many thanks,

At 05:48 PM 7/30/2005 +0000, you wrote: >This is really frustrating! *Every* synth/keyboard etc I've ever known >will cut off old notes >in order to play new notes when the polyphony is low. >I'd be grateful if anyone could try out this: >So, for todays' prize, what obvious thing am I doing wrong and how can I >have one of >those d'oh! moments and get this thing working...? Call Steve Jobs 1-800-NEXT-STEP When I saw the word "prize", of course I took the time to check this. I can confirm your results, it's not the oldest note but I guess there's a preference if a new note needs more voices - it'll only allocate for the present requirement. It's almost "newest note" but not quite. BTW, I tried this with the global voices and the group voices params. So it's a bug in the EXS IF Apple claims oldest note behavior. Otherwise it's part of the feature set. Your workaround would be to merge the samples together and stick with 1-voice normal cutoff behavior. Garth Hjelte Sampler User