>Anyone know of a good kazoo sample out there? I need to make >some bees vocalize. You could just take a comb, put a layer of aluminium foil in front of it and sing away! Watch out - when it works, you'll tickle your lips. Far more expressive than a sample...... Take a solo! Regards - Colin

>....Still a little leery of Windows >emulation for now.... Same here. I wish Emagic would add native support for the Roland format. Ilio & Spectrasonics (among others) continue to release their latest stuff in Roland format. There are lots of S760 (etc) out there and it makes sense for us owners to buy CD-ROMS in that format. It would be great to have the added bonus of using these samples within EXS24, without having to go through virtual PC. Failing that, I wish CDXtract or Translator would move their butts and release a Mac version. Regards - Colin

I believe there is an option to view samples that have already been used during import. This may allow you to designate another zone for the same sample. -Jer > From: "yael" <yael@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:32:12 +0200 > To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [exs] Same sample twice > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Hammer > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > > Is it possible to have the same sample in two different zones. > If a sample is already used in a zone then it doesn't seem to be available > to use again. > tom > ********** > Hum, that's true ! when u choose a sample , it disappears when the list... > For the moment u can do it if u do a Copy of the sample with and add a > letter ( SnareA--->SnareB) ... > That's the only solution I can see .... someone else on that ?? > Igor > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

Virtual PC on a G3 sucks. I hear the G4 does a good job with it. HOWEVER, Translator from Rubber Chicken has a light CPU footprint and runs easily even on the G3. The most irritating wait is the Windows bootup in VPC on a G3. Translator runs like a breeze once you're up. I really like the program BECAUSE it it so light a load on either a real or emulated Windows box. -Jer ------------------------- Apple PowerBook G3 400Mhz Mac OS 9.04 Logic Audio Platinum 4.7 384 MB of Ram (50MB dedicated to Logic) Digigram VX Pocket sound card (driver 2.6.0) Opcode MIDIport 32 with OMS 2.3.8 ------------------------- Jer Olsen, President Global Express Media LLC "The Mecca for Musicians" SECRETS THE MUSIC INDUSTRY DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW! http://MusicProTools.com/ > From: Colin Shapiro <musos@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 01:05:15 +0200 > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [exs] Re: Roland-to EXS-24 conversion > >> ....Still a little leery of Windows >> emulation for now.... > > Same here. > I wish Emagic would add native support for the Roland format. Ilio & > Spectrasonics (among others) continue to release their latest stuff > in Roland format. There are lots of S760 (etc) out there and it makes > sense for us owners to buy CD-ROMS in that format. > > It would be great to have the added bonus of using these samples > within EXS24, without having to go through virtual PC. > Failing that, I wish CDXtract or Translator would move their butts > and release a Mac version. > > Regards - Colin > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

Thanks, I found it. "File selector filters used files" in the zone menu. Uncheck that and all the files are available whether used or not. Thanks tom > Subject: [exs] Digest Number 262 > > Subject: Re: Same sample twice > > I believe there is an option to view samples that have already been used > during import. This may allow you to designate another zone for the same > sample. -Jer > >> From: "yael" <yael@...> >> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:32:12 +0200 >> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [exs] Same sample twice >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Tom Hammer >> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >> >> Is it possible to have the same sample in two different zones. >> If a sample is already used in a zone then it doesn't seem to be available >> to use again. >> tom >> ********** >> Hum, that's true ! when u choose a sample , it disappears when the list... >> For the moment u can do it if u do a Copy of the sample with and add a >> letter ( SnareA--->SnareB) ... >> That's the only solution I can see .... someone else on that ?? >> Igor

Go to Bitheadz and download the free Osmosis (mac) demo! You can convert 20 Roland multisamples (one per session) easily and use them with the EXS-24. Make sure your prefs are set to convert the program format to samplecell and the audio format to Aiff. Then drag the programs (or alias of the folder) to your Sampler Instruments folder. When first opening the sound in EXS-24, they will be automatically converted to EXS format. I'm sure that Emagic will improve the scope of their softsampler to exceed my Kurzweils (including Roland reading , streaming, and matrix modulation capabilities. Just give em a little time... Best wishes, Jeff F.

Jeff wrote: > Go to Bitheadz and download the free Osmosis (mac) demo! You can >convert 20 Roland multisamples (one per session) easily and use them >with the EXS-24. Converting samples is not a problem - I can import as many as I like with Transferstation (albeit one at a time). Does the Osmosis demo translate complete patches? If you're using Groove Control patches, you'll know there can be HUNDREDS of samples in a patch. I want the facility to simply load a Roland patch, with velocity layering, keyboard mapping and all. > I'm sure that Emagic will improve the scope of their softsampler to >exceed my Kurzweils (including Roland reading , streaming, >and matrix modulation capabilities. Just give em a little time... I hope you're right........ Regards - Colin

Hi Guys, The Mac program by Bitheadz called Osmosis does work for a decent basic level of Roland to SampleCell/EXS conversion (including patches and performances). The only thing with Groove Control library conversion is that S-Cell has a 59 key split limit. This is one of the reasons that we don't support Groove Control products on SampleCell format. So if you convert Roland Groove Control files to SampleCell via Osmosis, and then open it up in the EXS, basically everything works except for loops that are four bars long and have over 59 slices/partials. So for GC it actually works about 85%-90% of the time...not bad really. Definitely a good way to go for the time being. (It is actually much easier in practice than it sounds). BTW, if you really want native Roland support (or any other format), you should tell emagic loudly. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that there are any plans to support native import of any other formats currently. It's probably speak now, or forever hold your peace! Send your requests directly to Germany if this is something that you see as essential, and explain why the other available solutions don't work for you. Best regards, Eric Persing Creative Director Spectrasonics http://www.spectrasonics.net/ Learn more about Groove Control at: http://www.spectrasonics.net/groovecontrol.html >> Go to Bitheadz and download the free Osmosis (mac) demo! You can >>convert 20 Roland multisamples (one per session) easily and use them >>with the EXS-24. > >Converting samples is not a problem - I can import as many as I like >with Transferstation (albeit one at a time). Does the Osmosis demo >translate complete patches? If you're using Groove Control patches, >you'll know there can be HUNDREDS of samples in a patch. I want the >facility to simply load a Roland patch, with velocity layering, >keyboard mapping and all. > >> I'm sure that Emagic will improve the scope of their softsampler to >>exceed my Kurzweils (including Roland reading , streaming, >>and matrix modulation capabilities. Just give em a little time... > >I hope you're right........

Thanks for the info. I've been asking Emagic for Roland support for the EXS24 since before day one!! I sent an "official" suggestion and spoke out long and loud on the Logic-Users' group. And I'm not the only one either. I can't understand why they overlook this important format. Regards - Colin CC: Emagic / MIAfrica - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >Hi Guys, > >The Mac program by Bitheadz called Osmosis does work for a decent basic level >of Roland to SampleCell/EXS conversion (including patches and performances). >The only thing with Groove Control library conversion is that S-Cell has a 59 >key split limit. This is one of the reasons that we don't support Groove >Control products on SampleCell format. So if you convert Roland Groove >Control files to SampleCell via Osmosis, and then open it up in the EXS, >basically everything works except for loops that are four bars long and have >over 59 slices/partials. > >So for GC it actually works about 85%-90% of the time...not bad really. >Definitely a good way to go for the time being. (It is actually much easier >in practice than it sounds). > >BTW, if you really want native Roland support (or any other format), you >should tell emagic loudly. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that there >are any plans to support native import of any other formats currently. It's >probably speak now, or forever hold your peace! Send your requests directly >to Germany if this is something that you see as essential, and explain why >the other available solutions don't work for you. > >Best regards, > >Eric Persing >Creative Director >Spectrasonics

Hi all, Due to the "excellent" quality conversion of CdXtract ( www.cdxtract.com) I don't think Emagic gonna do it ! A little wait and go....soon available on Mac. Igor

I recently found that if you (commandC) copy a zone with a sample already in it, and paste it(commandV) you can in fact use the same sample again AND I'm pretty sure you can set different start end points etc. I'm not 100% sure about the start end point thing, as i discovered this Towards the end of a long sampling session... anyhow give it a try and please report back, refresh my memory if it works for ya Kelly

Hey LUG, You guys may know this already.... I like to use features on the track's lower set of parameters, especially the track's delay definition. When you have a patch with a slow attack, like strings, you can set a negative delay there, and when it plays back, that will make it play ahead to make up for the slow attack. You don't have that feature with audio instruments, like the EXS24. Check this out: You can cable a "midi" instrument to that "audio" instrument, and then use the "midi" intrument in the arrange window, then you have all those definition parameters that a regular midi instrument has, including that track delay. You can make those slow attack strings play without having to process the track. I wonder if there's any downside to doing this. Anyone know? this is kewl, df

At 05:08 AM 2/07/01 +0000, you wrote: >Hey LUG, > > You guys may know this already.... > > I like to use features on the >track's lower set of parameters, especially the track's delay >definition. When you have a patch with a slow attack, like strings, >you can set a negative delay there, and when it plays back, that will >make it play ahead to make up for the slow attack. You don't have that >feature with audio instruments, like the EXS24. The extended parameters -- including Delay -- do apply to audio instruments in 4.7.2 I'm not sure how long this has been so. Delay is the bottom line of the parameters box for Audio Instruments and if you double click on the left hand side of the parameters box you get the extended parameters. What I miss is the range parameters ( eg C-1 -- G8) which I find very useful. Sascha Franck pointed out that to me that you could use the method you described to get them to work with an audio instrument (cabling from a conventional midi track object to the audio instrument object). This is a work around until midi features of AIs are brought up to par with conventional midi instruments. Regards, Murray

--- In exs-users@y..., Murray McDowall <murraymc@m...> wrote: > The extended parameters -- including Delay -- do apply to audio instruments > in 4.7.2 I'm not sure how long this has been so. Delay is the bottom line > of the parameters box for Audio Instruments and if you double click on the > left hand side of the parameters box you get the extended parameters. Nupe, not the same thing at all. This parameter which would be down with the "show inserts", "show eq", etc for it to work like I'm talking about. The delay is unique to each instrument and stays with it, you don't have to think about it anymore. I think you are talking about the top set of parameters(above the toolbox). I'm talking about below the toolbox, where the midi channel & drivers are. df

At 06:20 AM 2/07/01 +0000, you wrote: >--- In exs-users@y..., Murray McDowall <murraymc@m...> wrote: > >> The extended parameters -- including Delay -- do apply to audio >instruments >> in 4.7.2 I'm not sure how long this has been so. Delay is the >bottom line >> of the parameters box for Audio Instruments and if you double click >on the >> left hand side of the parameters box you get the extended >parameters. > > Nupe, not the same thing at all. This parameter which would be down >with the "show inserts", "show eq", etc for it to work like I'm >talking about. The delay is unique to each instrument and stays with >it, you don't have to think about it anymore. I think you are talking >about the top set of parameters(above the toolbox). I'm talking about >below the toolbox, where the midi channel & drivers are. OK -- it is not the same but if you edit the delay in the other box and save it in an autoload/default file the parameter will be set anyway -- would this do? Regards, Murray

I am trying to record a cutoff sweep on the ESX24. I create a new track the same as the sampler I record the cutoff sweep the information shows in the event list, transform section etc but the ESX24 does not respond what am I doing wrong ? its driving me up the wall.I can record other information this way As I way round I uses the filter efx insert and record the sweep this way but I'd really like to do it on the sampler,any advice would be welcome I am using logic platinum on a G4 mac many thanks

im trying to find a way to alter the tuning of a whole set of samples in a zone, is there any way to do that globally? so far i can only see that i can alter each sample on a per sample basis, rather tiresome when i have 10 tom tom samples to tune up! id have thought there would be a group tune option, alas it seems not. any help appreciated. thanks andy

A-Playback is a splitter with each channel chained to the appropriate numbered track on the audio environment window. What you must do is set up a splitter for the Audio Instrument, one for the Bus, and one for the Master Outs. Then select the splitter in the arrange window your selected track. Record all automation on this track. Remember which splitters are chained to which channel strips in the environment. The more splitters you used, the more separation of automation data you will have on each splitter track. Good luck. It's actually quite easy. -Jer --------- > "tweakings" both to ES1 and the Autofilter, but obviously I want the > automation data for ES1 on the audio instrument track and the automation > data for Autofilter on a channel splitter/Bus Playback track. It will not be on the same track. It will be on the associated splitter track in the arrange window. Also, when assigning splitters to the Instruments or Buses, run the splitter channel to the corresponding stip channel (to keep things organized and less confusing). Use a separate splitter for each audio section: Audio (already there: A-Playback), Audio Instruments, Busses, Master Outs. All your "tweaks" will be on the splitter tracks in arrange, not on the Instrument or Audio tracks. You can use more than one splitter for each type, or even one for each instrument, just keep your numbers straight and name each splitter, that way all your automation data can be separated by instrument-per-track instead of all instruments or busses on one. > > Logic's default template be able to record separate automation data for all > of the buses? Does it depend on what MIDI channel that MIDI CC data is set This has never worked for me. I've had to set up splitters for the Busses. Only the audio tracks have a default splitter attached. I recommend copying "A-Playback" in the arrange, renaming it and chaining it to the desired strips. > > Ahg, okay, see, now I'm starting to get all confused again. Do I have to > select a channel splitter in the arrange window in order to record the > automation data to it? That would seem to make sense, but then again, that > would seem to make it impossible to, in one swoop, record the automation to > the ES1 _and_ the Autofilter which would be on a separate Bus track. Yes, but I don't know if you could do both at once or not. Remember you've got one splitter for the ES1 and one for the Bus. > > Please help us newbies -- I get the impression that this is a FAQ for many > Logic users, and I will probably write a tutorial on this very subject once > I get it sorted out. And Jer, mucho thanks for your help. Actually, it hasn't really come up, but it's important knowledge of how to use the environment. I stumbled on it myself the first time I tried to automate a VST filter. > From: logicplatinum@... > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 11:36:27 -0000 > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [exs] ESX24 cutoff sweep > > I am trying to record a cutoff sweep on the ESX24. I create a new > track the same as the sampler I record the cutoff sweep the > information shows in the event list, transform section etc but the > ESX24 does not respond what am I doing wrong ? its driving me up the > wall.I can record other information this way As I way round I uses > the filter efx insert and record the sweep this way but I'd really > like to do it on the sampler,any advice would be welcome I am using > logic platinum on a G4 mac > > many thanks > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

I never tried this, but try holding the Command Key while changing. You can change the One-Shot setting for all selected zones by holding this key down while unchecking One-Shot--a Godsend, amazing that it isn't documented!!! Don't know that it would work for tuning. -Jer > From: andy scott <ythan@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 14:10:27 +0100 > To: exs users <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [exs] tuning sets of samples > > im trying to find a way to alter the tuning of a whole set of samples in a > zone, is there any way to do that globally? so far i can only see that i can > alter each sample on a per sample basis, rather tiresome when i have 10 tom > tom samples to tune up! id have thought there would be a group tune option, > alas it seems not. > any help appreciated. > > thanks > > andy > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

Hi all! I'm a longtime LUG member, but fairly new to this list. Over a period of time I have registered on this list (and the lug) that quite a few people wishes conversions of more formats e.g Roland. I think this list would be ideal to say to Emagic (politely) that we need some more formats converted please. Shall we set up a poll and maybe ask Joeri if he wants to be the messenger of an united exs-list wish? If we are enough we might get this throug. After the terrific success of the plug-in deal and Joeri's idea of more company people on this list, this could maybe be the way to show we are on topic and can get some wishes fulfilled. As I'm a Norwegian, please bare over with any almost English phrases. Anyone? @nders Best Anders Elverhøy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.revolvermusic.no Revolvermusic A/S-Apalvn.10-0371 Oslo Oslo-Tel:22469900-Mob:92811010

Does anyone know the URL of the Logic users site where Wishes are compiled and sent to Emagic? I've been there before but can't find it. -Jer

--- In exs-users@y..., Murray McDowall <murraymc@m...> wrote: > OK -- it is not the same but if you edit the delay in the other box and > save it in an autoload/default file the parameter will be set anyway > would this do? > Regards, > Murray Well, that would set all of the tracks to the same, as you record with that setting. you'd have to keep up with settings for different requirements, and as you jump from track to track recording, you'd have to change that setting. The settings in the parameter window below the toolbox are for individual instruments, and those settings are added into the tracks playback "parameters". You can transpose, you can make it non transposable, you can limit it's key range, , and you can specify the tracks delay, and it's now set for that instrument, you can forget about it now. Those settings are not shown in that tracks editors, the settings in the upper parameter window are. I'm sorry I must not be clear enough. I use those playback parameters to make up for instrument's response time, like slow attacked strings, really many things. AND, getting this stuff fined tuned like that, makes a humongous difference in overall sound and feel, I'm sure we all agree. Anyway, all I was saying was, that "playback" parameter feature is not on the audio instruments, like they are on the midi instruments, as a playback only effect on the track. So just cable an empty midi instruments to the audio instrument, don't need a midi driver assign to that midi instrument or anything. Now choose that midi instrument in the arrange window, instead of the audio instrument that you are using. It'll play through the midi instrument that is cabled to it. Including any settings in it's "playback parameter window". I hope that's clear, and was worth all this typing. I'm enjoying this Logic trick for my working style. that's all I got to say about that... df

> Does anyone know the URL of the Logic users site where Wishes are compiled > and sent to Emagic? I've been there before but can't find it. -Jer Yeah, http://www.belway.com/logic/ The problem is: I'm administrator of that site and as you'll see: it hasn't been updated in ages. I'll get back in touch with some folks I was going to work something out with to make things happen automatically. So, as Anders said, if this list can work out a nice list with "priority items" for the EXS and write that in a letter, I'll make sure it is given to the right people and I'll try to get a reply too. Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

"HELP@..." wrote: > Does anyone know the URL of the Logic users site where Wishes are > compiled > and sent to Emagic? I've been there before but can't find it. -Jer > > http://www.belway.com/logic/ Dave Eager

Yup. That was the one... From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...> Organization: Belway Productions Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 17:44:06 +0200 To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [exs] EXS-24 conversion > Does anyone know the URL of the Logic users site where Wishes are compiled > and sent to Emagic? I've been there before but can't find it. -Jer Yeah, http://www.belway.com/logic/ The problem is: I'm administrator of that site and as you'll see: it hasn't been updated in ages. I'll get back in touch with some folks I was going to work something out with to make things happen automatically. So, as Anders said, if this list can work out a nice list with "priority items" for the EXS and write that in a letter, I'll make sure it is given to the right people and I'll try to get a reply too. Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/