On 5/30/05 6:28 PM, "laskartcom" <laskartcom@...> wrote: > Following situation: > Let's say You create a simple song like this in Logic (my current versionis > 6.4) : > > 1st Track: EXS Instrument :Guitar - 4 bars > 2nd Track: EXS Instrument: Piano - 4 bars > > Iet's say you really like this and decide to copy it into a different song. Of > course you > want to keep the particular instruments. > > I select those tracks and copy them into the clipboard. I load the "different > " song and > paste those tracks to a certain position. > Everything is fine with one exception: the EXS instruments are EMPTY. Guitar > and Piano > are gone . > Of course i tried to select those tracks ,created a folder and copied and > pasted it : > Same Results. > May be somebody has an idea how to fix this. > Thanks so much to all of you > Best > Markus The midi data is in the midi tracks ­ but the instrument data is in the environment objects. You need to either copy the audio instruments from the old song to the new song, or make new EXS audio instruments in your new song, and then load the piano and guitar programs into the EXS. There is no way to copy the instruments and tracks all together in one operation. Dave

On May ,31, 2005, at 12:19 AM, David Gordon wrote: > > Iet's say you really like this and decide to copy it into a > different song. Of > > course you > > want to keep the particular instruments. > > There is no way to copy the instruments and tracks all together in one > operation. If you upgrade to L7, you can create a channel strip setting from the audio instrument track. This is like a single meta command that will recall not only your EXS instrument, but also any plugins you may have instantiated on the track as well. Of course the actual midi data still has to be pasted in separately....... Unless you want to turn it into an Apple loop; but that's another story. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions

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> > > EXS limits the visible samles to 30,000 instruments. > > > Really annoying. I have a massive library and always > > > end up shuttling sounds around as I need them. > > > >do u make better music with your 30000 sound library? > > Reading positive, constructive and well-informed comments always > make me happy. > Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l guys, just to keep you updated since I know u are very interested. I just counted my exs library and its 30001 instruments. I don¹t know any of them and my music stinks... this was humor from the beginning ­ still is markus

markus enochson wrote: >>>>EXS limits the visible samles to 30,000 instruments. >>>>Really annoying. I have a massive library and always >>>>end up shuttling sounds around as I need them. >>> >>>do u make better music with your 30000 sound library? >> >>Reading positive, constructive and well-informed comments always >>make me happy. >> Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l > > > > guys, just to keep you updated since I know u are very interested. > I just counted my exs library and its 30001 instruments. I don¹t > know any of them and my music stinks... The fluttertongue contra alto flute sforzando legatissimo is very very good and will make your tunes less stinky. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

Hello Everyone: Kind of a dumb question, but I have been trying to find out how many "fine tune" increments equal a tune increment in the EXS. In fine tune you can only go +/-50 increments. Anyone.. Thanks. Keith

At 08:49 PM 5/31/2005 +0100, you wrote: >markus enochson wrote: > >>>>EXS limits the visible samles to 30,000 instruments. > >>>>Really annoying. I have a massive library and always > >>>>end up shuttling sounds around as I need them. > >>> > >>>do u make better music with your 30000 sound library? > >> > >>Reading positive, constructive and well-informed comments always > >>make me happy. > >> Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l > > > > > > > > guys, just to keep you updated since I know u are very interested. > > I just counted my exs library and its 30001 instruments. I don¹t > > know any of them and my music stinks... > >The fluttertongue contra alto flute sforzando legatissimo is very very >good and will make your tunes less stinky. You are right - I used that particular instrument blended with the wah-wah guitar in a Voodoo Child cover I was doing and it really made the song rock. BTW, just in case the original poster was serious, separate your library in segments using aliases. Then shuttle the areas in that you need when you need them. That can be an easy way to cut down on the instrument load on the menu while still having lots of sounds at your disposal. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

At 04:01 PM 5/31/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Kind of a dumb question, but I have been trying to find out how many "fine >tune" increments equal a tune increment in the EXS. In fine tune you can >only >go +/-50 increments. Fine tune is in cents, and 100 cents equals one dollar; that is, a "half step" or one "tune increment". Garth Hjelte Sampler User

great.. thanks..

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--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Nick Batzdorf <recording@e...> wrote: > > From: "resomania" <resomania@y...> > > > > > are there any good rompler libraries for the EXS24, something that > > kind of > > mimics a hardware rompler, like a JV2080. > > The best one right now is probably Quantum Leap Colossus. It has its > own NI player - not EXS. > > > Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher > Virtual Instruments magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers > www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com > 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) > 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101 > $1000 is a little more than I was hoping to spend right now. Is Colossus that much better than Sampletank 2 or Sonik Synth 2, that's its worth 2-3 times the price?? How would you compare/contrast Colossus with Sampletank 2 and Sonik Synth 2?? Thanks.. Paul Paul

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From: "resomania" <resomania@...> > $1000 is a little more than I was hoping to spend right now. Is > Colossus that > much better than Sampletank 2 or Sonik Synth 2, that's its worth > 2-3 times the > price?? How would you compare/contrast Colossus with Sampletank 2 and > Sonik Synth 2?? Thanks.. I haven't heard the latter, but I can say that Colossus is a bargain considering all that it includes. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

does anyone have an environment where playing a ONE kit (like an exs24 instrument of a standard GM set up work or‹preferably with a GM set and the INTERACTIVE DRUM KIT (cd-rom)) where i can play a patter using the one patch and each drum is outputted thru it¹s own channel‹ so i can apply individual compression, eq, etc, to each drum? do i need to make an exs24 occurrence for each drum itself? help!!! tv

On 02.06.2005, at 18:31, tony vincent wrote: > does anyone have an environment where playing a ONE kit (like an exs24 > instrument of a standard GM set up work or—preferably with a GM > set and the > INTERACTIVE DRUM KIT (cd-rom)) where i can play a patter using the > one patch > and each drum is outputted thru it’s own channel— so i can apply > individual > compression, eq, etc, to each drum? do i need to make an exs24 > occurrence > for each drum itself? > That is not a matter of the environment but a matter of the EXS instrument itself. It must be configured that way. Actually I do not know of a drum kit which does what you want (but I don't know many). Wizoo's mextended drums for example have a separate output for dry, room and overhead sound but not single parts. You can do that on your own if you either duplicate a kit and store the parts as single instruments or set different EXS outputs in the instrument editor - than you get the single parts out via Aux objects. ___ Peter Ostry

On 6/3/05 4:05 AM, "exs-users@yahoogroups.com" <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > >> does anyone have an environment where playing a ONE kit (like an exs24 >> instrument of a standard GM set up work or‹preferably with a GM >> set and the INTERACTIVE DRUM KIT (cd-rom)) where i can play a patter using the one patch and each drum is outputted thru it¹s own channel‹ so i can apply >> individual compression, eq, etc, to each drum? do i need to make an exs24 >> occurrence for each drum itself? >> > > That is not a matter of the environment but a matter of the EXS > instrument itself. It must be configured that way. Actually I do not > know of a drum kit which does what you want (but I don't know many). > Wizoo's mextended drums for example have a separate output for dry, > room and overhead sound but not single parts. > > You can do that on your own if you either duplicate a kit and store > the parts as single instruments or set different EXS outputs in the > instrument editor - than you get the single parts out via Aux objects. > > ___ > Peter Ostry peter, i've searched high and low on this-- but can't seem to find out where to output each sample (key) to a bus in the exs editor. (only audio outs) can you (or anyone) help in a more step-by-step manner? many thanks. tv

On 03.06.2005, at 17:20, tony vincent wrote: >>> does anyone have an environment where playing a ONE kit (like an >>> exs24 >>> instrument of a standard GM set up work or—preferably with a GM >>> set and the INTERACTIVE DRUM KIT (cd-rom)) where i can play a >>> patter using >>> the one patch and each drum is outputted thru it’s own channel— >>> so i can apply >>> individual compression, eq, etc, to each drum? do i need to make >>> an exs24 >>> occurrence for each drum itself? >> >> That is not a matter of the environment but a matter of the EXS >> instrument itself. It must be configured that way. Actually I do not >> know of a drum kit which does what you want (but I don't know many). >> Wizoo's mextended drums for example have a separate output for dry, >> room and overhead sound but not single parts. >> >> You can do that on your own if you either duplicate a kit and store >> the parts as single instruments or set different EXS outputs in the >> instrument editor - than you get the single parts out via Aux >> objects. > > peter, i've searched high and low on this-- but can't seem to find > out where > to output each sample (key) to a bus in the exs editor. (only audio > outs) > can you (or anyone) help in a more step-by-step manner? > many thanks. ---------- Method 1, individual channels: Load a drumkit into EXS. Use the popup menu "option" and save it under new names preferably in a new folder within your EXS Sampler Instruments. Basicly like this: MyDrums Bassdrum.exs Snare.exs Toms.exs ...and so on, how many you want Now do "refresh menu" once in the instrument popup and you should see your new folder and instruments (which are all the same complete kit at the moment). Load the Bassdrum.exs and klick on "edit". Locate the keys for the kick. Sometimes you can tell them by the name, sometimes you have to listen to the samples (klick the small "E" for that). Delete all zones below the keys which are not kicks. Then execute once "Groups- >Delete unused groups" to get rid of what you do not need. Say "Instrument->save" and close the window. Now you have one EXS instrument with just the bassdrum. Do the same to Snare, Toms, etc. Never forget to copy ("Save as") I mentioned above before you modify an instrument! ---------- Method 2, multichannel: I think you were rather close to the solution. Probably you just forgot to load the EXS as "Multichannel" instead of Mono or stereo from the audio instrument menu. Go to an audio instrument, load "Multichannel->EXS". Then again, "Save as" the instrument under a different name. When your new name is in the name field, click on "Edit". The following is just an example, because the situation depends how that drum kit is organized. I tell you the easiest way, assuming that there are already properly named groups with the part names: open the group "Kick" and look at the field "EXS output". It is most likely set to "All". Set it to 3-4 for example. Now open the group "HiHat", set it to 5-6. Save the instrument and close the istrument editor. Now get a stereo Aux object and look into its "Input" menu. You will see not only outputs and busses but also the name of the instrument where the EXS sits at the moment. Choose one of the shown channel pairs. Make a new Aux object and set its input to the second channel pair. From now on all notes which belong to an EXS group will sound in one of the Aux objects. ---------- Hope that helps, I couldn't explain it much shorter... ___ Peter Ostry

I actually think that a few of my posts have been moderated due to certain reasons (somewhat sneaky Apple side remarks or whatever) without any further notification (I don't think it's Yahoo acting up). I just don't like this, especially since (maybe apart from 1-2 posts) I allways tried to offer actual answers along with my remarks. So that's been it. There's quite some nice people on this list though - I may somewhat miss you. But seriously, it's enough. I think I'll unsubscribe from the main LUG as well during the next days. No idea whether I'll be back at all (even if my next music computer will be a Mac), most likely I won't. I might be too much of an old hippie to accept this. Wish you all the best, Sascha Franck

I hope you'll reconsider, Sascha. We've all benefited from your presence here. Regards, Lenny Quoting Sascha Franck <S.Franck@...>: > I actually think that a few of my posts have been moderated due to > certain reasons (somewhat sneaky Apple side remarks or whatever) > without any further notification (I don't think it's Yahoo acting up). > I just don't like this, especially since (maybe apart from 1-2 posts) > I allways tried to offer actual answers along with my remarks. > > So that's been it. There's quite some nice people on this list though > - I may somewhat miss you. > > But seriously, it's enough. I think I'll unsubscribe from the main > LUG as well during the next days. No idea whether I'll be back at > all (even if my next music computer will be a Mac), most likely I > won't. I might be too much of an old hippie to accept this. > > Wish you all the best, > Sascha Franck > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

Sascha, I am not a big contributor to this list - I just lurk to see what the score is in the s/w sampler world - but I have seen your many considered messages that have had no other agenda other than to help the EXS community. It's not for me to urge you to re-consider but it strikes me that this community will be a lot worse off without your insight and experience to guide them along the path. If - as you imply - your posts have not made it through here due to some politically correct jihad, that is disgraceful. If it's any consolation, I for one am extremely grateful for all the totally altruistic help and assistance you have given me personally in my various endeavours... and for that, I thank you. A sad loss to the EXS community I think. Best regards, Steve http://www.hollowsun.com

wqa-wqa-wqa.... hold ze horses, sascha! don't let the silly technology - that often plays tricks on you - make you react like this! you should not give in, just because some silly e-mails don't get's posted... or whatever. Keep yer line, mate ! And by the way: I honestly don't think ( anymore ) that a windooze machine is sooo much worse... OK - it sucks! but sometimes the macs do as well !!!!! So keep on doing the best YOU can - not concerning the computer you are working on. In any case. All the best R On May 31, 2005, at 23:25, Sascha Franck wrote: > I actually think that a few of my posts have been moderated due to > certain reasons (somewhat sneaky Apple side remarks or whatever) > without any further notification (I don't think it's Yahoo acting up). > I just don't like this, especially since (maybe apart from 1-2 posts) > I allways tried to offer actual answers along with my remarks. > > So that's been it. There's quite some nice people on this list though > - I may somewhat miss you. > > But seriously, it's enough. I think I'll unsubscribe from the main LUG > as well during the next days. No idea whether I'll be back at > all (even if my next music computer will be a Mac), most likely I > won't. I might be too much of an old hippie to accept this. > > Wish you all the best, > Sascha Franck > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Raphael Vang freelance trombonist www.raphael-vang.de

hmmm. now i'm not sure if my mac plays tricks on me... I could swear I typed: woa-woa-woa.... maybe this is what you mean by the e-mails showing up strange... ;D c'mon, mate R On Jun 4, 2005, at 1:05, Raphael Vang wrote: > wqa-wqa-wqa.... > hold ze horses, sascha! > > don't let the silly technology - that often plays tricks on you - make > you react like this! > you should not give in, just because some silly e-mails don't get's > posted... or whatever. > Keep yer line, mate ! > And by the way: > I honestly don't think ( anymore ) that a windooze machine is sooo > much worse... > OK - it sucks! > but sometimes the macs do as well !!!!! > > So keep on doing the best YOU can - not concerning the computer you are > working on. > > In any case. > All the best > > R > > > > > On May 31, 2005, at 23:25, Sascha Franck wrote: > >> I actually think that a few of my posts have been moderated due to >> certain reasons (somewhat sneaky Apple side remarks or whatever) >> without any further notification (I don't think it's Yahoo acting up). >> I just don't like this, especially since (maybe apart from 1-2 posts) >> I allways tried to offer actual answers along with my remarks. >> >> So that's been it. There's quite some nice people on this list though >> - I may somewhat miss you. >> >> But seriously, it's enough. I think I'll unsubscribe from the main LUG >> as well during the next days. No idea whether I'll be back at >> all (even if my next music computer will be a Mac), most likely I >> won't. I might be too much of an old hippie to accept this. >> >> Wish you all the best, >> Sascha Franck >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> EXS* Users Group >> - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ >> - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ >> - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Raphael Vang > > freelance trombonist > www.raphael-vang.de > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Raphael Vang freelance trombonist www.raphael-vang.de

Sascha, I just want to say thanks for all the great contributions to the EXS group you've made. I think you are one of the key members who has posted intelligent, informative and often amusing insights into the process of music making and if you do decide to stop, I will miss you. Without members like you, these groups, lists and forums sometimes tend to be boring, dry, and overly technical geekfests without one iota of inspiring, artistic thoughts, just technical data and know it all "experts" who like to show off. I hope you will reconsider, but I don't blame you if you give it a break. Anyway, thanks again from a fellow "old hippie".

Please reconsider your step, as it might have been a misunderstanding after all... it would be a loss, to have you not posting anymore...thanks for tips and tricks/comments in the past... Regards, Frank Valet