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From: Julie Larson <julielarson@...>
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 at 9:14:16 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS-ram usage
Message #14251
This is a reply to #14250.
On May 22, 2005, at 6:35 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote: > Apple's site says this about Tiger: > Tiger also provides access to as much physical memory as you can > install in your PowerMac G5. Even 32-bit applications benefit from > the system's ability to access large amounts of RAM: The system can > manipulate data in multiple applications entirely in RAM for maximum > performance. > Perhaps someone can confirm if Logic/EXS24 takes full advantage or > not.... > Thanks Colin, that is very interesting. The apple guru's at my local Apple Store seem to think that, even with Tiger, Logic can only access 2GB of ram....the maximum that 32 bit applications can access. hmmm. thanks again, julie www.julielarson.net
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From: Scott Schram <scott@...>
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 at 8:36:12 AM
Subject: Re: EXS-ram usage
Message #14252
> Thanks Colin, > that is very interesting. The apple guru's at my local Apple Store > seem to think that, even with Tiger, Logic can only access 2GB of > ram....the maximum that 32 bit applications can access. hmmm. > > thanks again, > julie > I can test this when I get home later this week on my 4GB system (I'm about to upgrade it to Tiger and Logic 7.1.) Even if the app only uses 2 GB, it would still be useful to have 4 which could be used for the OS, and other apps. If that is a limitation, we could expect it would be a likely one to address in an upgrade. If I were buying a system today, I'd get 2 x 256 SIMMS that come with it, and after a burn-in period, remove that memory and install 8 x 1GB chips from crucial.com. Scott
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From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 at 10:04:59 AM
Subject: Re: Re: EXS-ram usage
Message #14253
On May 22, 2005, at 6:35 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote: >> Apple's site says this about Tiger: >> Tiger also provides access to as much physical memory as you can >> install in your PowerMac G5. Even 32-bit applications benefit from >> the system's ability to access large amounts of RAM: The system can >> manipulate data in multiple applications entirely in RAM for maximum >> performance. Multiple applications is the key. >> Perhaps someone can confirm if Logic/EXS24 takes full advantage or >> not.... > It does not. From: Julie Larson <julielarson@...> > Thanks Colin, > that is very interesting. It's also a fantasy. :) > The apple guru's at my local Apple Store > seem to think that, even with Tiger, Logic can only access 2GB of > ram....the maximum that 32 bit applications can access. hmmm. No, and Andrea from Redmatica explained this to me definitively, including links to the Apple site. Each program in Panther and tiger can access 4GB of RAM. If you look at Activity Monitor with Logic (including EXS) loaded up to its breaking point, you'll find it gets up to 3.17GB or so (that's the max on my machine); the remainder of the 4GB is "overhead" and doesn't show up in that figure, but it's being used. You can't work at that point - about 2.5GB is a practical maximum. That's still pretty good, because it's two Giga or Kontakt machines plus Logic, and you can run other programs in the rest of the RAM. I was able to run a Kontakt 2 outside Logic, but unfortunately the processor load was too high at that point (since I had two Space Designers open); I'm going to do some more fooling around to see whether that can be made to work. Whether installing more RAM would solve that (I have 5GB) is another question. In any case, this is not 64-bit memory access. That's only for command-line programs at this point; the GUI hasn't been adapted for 64-bit access yet. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101
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From: "Per Larsson" <per@...>
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 at 9:20:15 AM
Subject: Vertikal Presale Offer
Message #14254
Hi. I'm happy to present: SampleTekks Vertikal - The Piano Alternative There are so many sampled pianos on the market today and you as a musician have the benefit to be able to choose from the multitude of different brands and sounds. Most, or nearly all, of the sampled pianos are great, wonderful grand pianos like Steinway's, Bosendorfer and other truly amazing instruments. But, sometimes you need something different. Let's face it, you wouldn't choose Pavarotti to sing rock and roll, would you? Also, you probably wouldn't let Robert Plant sing "La Boheme"... Mind you, it probably would sound great in a way, but it's probably not what you're after! Most of the sampled pianos on the market today are "Pavarotti's", but if you want a "Plant"-piano you don't have that many chooses, until now! The Vertikal is a upright piano recorded and designed to do the job when you need that little extra "umpf" in your songs. It can be rock, blues, jazz, gospel or anything that needs the extra attitude. Shortly, when you need something not that "grand". The Vertikal has the normal SampleTekk standard, that means 16 recorded velocity samples pedal up, 16 pedal down and 16 releasesamples. Also included are inpulses of pedal down and instrument resonance to use with convoluting reverb as Gigapulse or Kontakt 2 Vertikal will ship June the 15:th and wioll be priced $150. VERTIKAL PREORDER OFFER!!! If you preorder your Vertikal before June 15:th, you will pay only $99, BUT if you are among the first 100 customers, you pay only $50!!!!! If you are among customers 101-200, you pay only $75!!!! Check the current pricelevel at our online store!!! To buy or for more info, go to www.sampletekk.com Best, Per "Worra" Larsson SampleTekk
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From: Julie Larson <julielarson@...>
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 at 7:24:22 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Re: EXS-ram usage
Message #14255
This is a reply to #14253.
On May 23, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Nick Batzdorf wrote: > > > The apple guru's at my local Apple Store > > seem to think that, even with Tiger, Logic can only access 2GB of > > ram....the maximum that 32 bit applications can access. hmmm. > > No, and Andrea from Redmatica explained this to me definitively,  > including links to the Apple site. > > .....and Nick....do happen to know the apple links that talk about this? Thanks everyone for the input....much appreciated. thanks julie
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From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 at 9:42:08 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: EXS-ram usage
Message #14256
>>> The apple guru's at my local Apple Store >>> seem to think that, even with Tiger, Logic can only access 2GB of >>> ram....the maximum that 32 bit applications can access. hmmm. >>> >> >> No, and Andrea from Redmatica explained this to me definitively, >> including links to the Apple site. >> >> >>> From: Julie Larson <julielarson@...> >> >> > .....and Nick....do happen to know the apple links that talk about > this? http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Conceptual/ 64bitPorting/index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40001064 Again: the practical limit for working is about 2.5GB, including Logic, as shown in Activity Monitor. Each program can access 4GB, but you won't get readings of 4GB in A.M.; the max reading before crashing was 3.17GB for me. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101
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From: "weshambright" <weshambright@...>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 at 10:01:47 PM
Subject: EXS doesn't see some samples?
Message #14257
Hello group, > I was wondering if anyone can tell me why my EXS sampler doesn't see all of my > samples. > I created an alias and put it in the sampler intruments folder with other > aliases that do > work. The just don't show up in the pull-down menu. > I am running Logic Pro 7.01. > Thanks for all anticipated help.
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From: "resomania" <resomania@...>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 at 11:43:09 AM
Subject: Any good rompler libraries for EXS24?
Message #14258
are there any good rompler libraries for the EXS24, something that kind of mimics a hardware rompler, like a JV2080. Paul
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From: Huud@...
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 at 1:42:43 PM
Subject: RE: EXS doesn't see some samples?
Message #14259
In a message dated 5/27/05 3:30:50 AM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com writes: > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me why my EXS sampler doesn't > see all of my > > samples. > > I created an alias and put it in the sampler intruments folder with > other > > aliases that do > > work. The just don't show up in the pull-down menu. > > I am running Logic Pro 7.01. > > Thanks for all anticipated help. > EXS limits the visible samles to 30,000 instruments. Really annoying. I have a massive library and always end up shuttling sounds around as I need them. -t
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From: "weshambright" <weshambright@...>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 at 5:33:42 PM
Subject: Re: EXS doesn't see some samples?
Message #14260
This is a reply to #14259.
> EXS limits the visible samles to 30,000 instruments. > Really annoying. I have a massive library and always > end up shuttling sounds around as I need them. Thanks for replying. I don't seem to have nearly that many. I think my problem is that I am new to EXS and I don't have the correct hierarchy of folders and audio files that correspond to the.exs instruments in the proper places. I am trying to get it all figured out. Thanks for your suggestion.
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From: Andris Sice <hasice@...>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 at 7:32:40 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: EXS doesn't see some samples?
Message #14261
This is a reply to #14260.
On 28/05/2005, at 8:33 AM, weshambright wrote: > > Thanks for replying. I don't seem to have nearly that many. > I think my problem is that I am new to EXS and I don't have the > correct hierarchy of folders > and audio files that correspond to the.exs instruments in the proper > places. > > I am trying to get it all figured out. Thanks for your suggestion. You could try running the free EXS Manager demo downloadable from: http://www.redmatica.com/Site/Pages/Download.php It's got me out of trouble a few times. Andris
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From: <markus.enochson@...>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 at 2:13:00 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] RE: EXS doesn't see some samples?
Message #14262
> EXS limits the visible samles to 30,000 instruments. Really annoying. I >have a massive library and always end up shuttling sounds around as I need >them. do u make better music with your 30000 sound library? Markus
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 at 8:02:36 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] RE: EXS doesn't see some samples?
Message #14263
This is a reply to #14262.
On a fine day, 28-05-2005, <markus.enochson@...> wrote: > > EXS limits the visible samles to 30,000 instruments. Really annoying. I > >have a massive library and always end up shuttling sounds around as I need > >them. > >do u make better music with your 30000 sound library? Reading positive, constructive and well-informed comments always make me happy. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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From: "claude MALL" <claude.mall@...>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 at 9:53:07 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] RE: EXS doesn't see some samples?
Message #14264
This is a reply to #14263.
...maybe we should start a contest, who has the most instruments and what for... ----- Original Message ----- From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [EXS] RE: EXS doesn't see some samples? On a fine day, 28-05-2005, <markus.enochson@...> wrote: > > EXS limits the visible samles to 30,000 instruments. Really annoying. I > >have a massive library and always end up shuttling sounds around as I need > >them. > >do u make better music with your 30000 sound library? Reading positive, constructive and well-informed comments always make me happy. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/ ____________________________________________________________________
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@...>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 at 10:30:03 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] RE: EXS doesn't see some samples?
Message #14265
This is a reply to #14264.
On May ,28, 2005, at 10:53 AM, claude MALL wrote: > ...maybe we should start a contest, who has the most instruments and > what for... And where they got them...... -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions
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From: Huud@...
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 at 1:22:12 PM
Subject: Re:exs 24 library
Message #14266
In a message dated 5/28/05 3:20:58 AM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com writes: > > do u make better music with your 30000 sound library? > > Markus > Yes I guess I do. It's like waking up in the morning and having several cars to choose from to get into. If its a warm summer day with a cool breeze I choose the convertible. It's just the better choice for the day at hand. I write music professionally and I never know what a client will throw at me today. So if I have several oboes to choose from I think they are getting a better deal. That, and I have to admit I am a bit of a 'sound' junkie. :) -Terry Michael huud www.Music4TheMovies.com
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From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 at 1:30:41 PM
Subject: Re: Any good rompler libraries for EXS24?
Message #14267
From: "resomania" <resomania@...> > are there any good rompler libraries for the EXS24, something that > kind of > mimics a hardware rompler, like a JV2080. The best one right now is probably Quantum Leap Colossus. It has its own NI player - not EXS. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101
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From: "claude MALL" <claude.mall@...>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 at 1:55:32 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re:exs 24 library
Message #14268
This is a reply to #14266.
but how will you remember that oboe # 18256 sounds a twink softer than oboe #18257? cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: Huud@... To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: [EXS] Re:exs 24 library In a message dated 5/28/05 3:20:58 AM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com writes: > > do u make better music with your 30000 sound library? > > Markus > Yes I guess I do. It's like waking up in the morning and having several cars to choose from to get into. If its a warm summer day with a cool breeze I choose the convertible. It's just the better choice for the day at hand. I write music professionally and I never know what a client will throw at me today. So if I have several oboes to choose from I think they are getting a better deal. That, and I have to admit I am a bit of a 'sound' junkie. :) -Terry Michael huud www.Music4TheMovies.com
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From: "userbrian444" <brian@...>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 at 2:16:41 PM
Subject: exs to soundfont
Message #14269
Hi all Is there any way to convert some of my exs library to soundfonts for use with dsl music device in Sibelius in OS 10.4? I have Translator and CDXtact but can't get them to do it. TIA for any advice. Regards Brian
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From: Garth Hjelte <garth@...>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 at 5:17:50 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] exs to soundfont
Message #14270
This is a reply to #14269.
At 07:16 PM 5/28/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Is there any way to convert some of my exs library to soundfonts >for use with dsl music device in Sibelius in OS 10.4? I have >Translator and CDXtact but can't get them to do it. TIA for any >advice. Regards Brian What is the problem; meaning why doesn't it convert? On at least Translator's part, feel free (that is, feeling free, rather than being free, which is two totally different things - never mind, my mind is spinning from seeing Star Wars)... feel free to send in the program plus samples to Translator's Bug Report site (and no, that isn't the most popular site on the web... =)) Garth Hjelte Sampler User
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From: Harald Schneller <haraldschneller@...>
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 at 5:30:21 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re:exs 24 library
Message #14271
>> do u make better music with your 30000 sound library? Following a musical idea that wants to arise, I don't see the purpose of limitations built into an already paid application besides disc space, just to sell an upgrade
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From: Harald Schneller <haraldschneller@...>
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 at 5:34:03 AM
Subject: Re: Re:exs 24 library
Message #14272
> but how will you remember that oboe # 18256 sounds a twink softer > than oboe #18257? As a musician I do
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From: "claude MALL" <claude.mall@...>
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 at 6:38:08 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Re:exs 24 library
Message #14273
This is a reply to #14272.
take your mask off, Superman, you've been discovered... ----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Schneller To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: [EXS] Re: Re:exs 24 library > but how will you remember that oboe # 18256 sounds a twink softer > than oboe #18257? As a musician I do ____________________________________________________________________
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From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 at 11:49:31 AM
Subject: Re: Re: RE: EXS doesn't see some samples?
Message #14274
On a fine day, 28-05-2005, <markus.enochson@...> wrote: >>> EXS limits the visible samles to 30,000 instruments. Really >>> annoying. I >>> have a massive library and always end up shuttling sounds around >>> as I need >>> them. >> do u make better music with your 30000 sound library? Let's stop and think about this for a minute. Now, why would Markus be annoyed? Does he get a kick out of posting silly things? Or could it be that he runs into this limitation, and maybe there's something you don't know? is it possible that this is a very real issue for everyone who has the Vienna Symphonic Library (the full version)? Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101
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From: "laskartcom" <laskartcom@...>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 at 8:28:28 PM
Subject: Logic: After copy into other song EXS intrument is lost
Message #14275
Following situation: Let's say You create a simple song like this in Logic (my current version is 6.4) : 1st Track: EXS Instrument :Guitar - 4 bars 2nd Track: EXS Instrument: Piano - 4 bars Iet's say you really like this and decide to copy it into a different song. Of course you want to keep the particular instruments. I select those tracks and copy them into the clipboard. I load the "different " song and paste those tracks to a certain position. Everything is fine with one exception: the EXS instruments are EMPTY. Guitar and Piano are gone . Of course i tried to select those tracks ,created a folder and copied and pasted it : Same Results. May be somebody has an idea how to fix this. Thanks so much to all of you Best Markus
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