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It's at: http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-environment-downloads.html This replaces the old one, it's much better. It operates the Logic Fuzz-Wah with a modwheel or other controller and also has keyswitches for turning on and off. I use this on saxophones and other things, sounds quite cool. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Ned Bouhalassa <ned@n...> wrote: > I use GOS and EXS. There's no built-in keyswitching with the GOS > programming, AFAIK, so you'll have to do it yourself. > > As for a pdf, just read the part of your Logic plug-in manual that is > devoted to EXS. > > Ned > > > w w w . n e d f x . c o m > ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬& not;¬¬ > Ned Bouhalassa > ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬& not;¬¬ > n e d @ n e d f x . c o m thanks ned. I was afraid that the exs does not support key switching. I did configure a work around with the mod wheel. I have the maestro logic environment, which is great, but was done back in logic 5, when it was still available for PC. any recommendation on what you do instead of key switching?

panetta97 wrote: > > > > > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Ned Bouhalassa <ned@n...> wrote: > >>I use GOS and EXS. There's no built-in keyswitching with the GOS >>programming, AFAIK, so you'll have to do it yourself. >> >>As for a pdf, just read the part of your Logic plug-in manual that > > is > >>devoted to EXS. >> >>Ned >> >> >>w w w . n e d f x . c o m >>¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬&no t;¬¬¬¬ >> Ned Bouhalassa >>¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬&no t;¬¬¬¬ >>n e d @ n e d f x . c o m > > > thanks ned. > > I was afraid that the exs does not support key switching. I did > configure a work around with the mod wheel. I have the maestro logic > environment, which is great, but was done back in logic 5, when it was > still available for PC. > > any recommendation on what you do instead of key switching? He said that there is no built-in keyswitching with GOS programming. EXS and Logic do support keyswitching. (Presumably you mean using notes to do the keyswitching). You can use keyswitches to trigger different groups in EXS or to control any switcheable parameters of plugins. There is an example of this on the bass trombone EXS instrument and the Wah wah control environment, which are available from my site. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

Even if it's not only about sample links only anymore (which makes things even better), you folks might be interested in this (pretty much regularly updated) "2005 MEGA SOUND LINK list" some nice fellow collected: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t8291&postdays=0&postord er=asc&start=0 - Sascha

On Apr 20, 2005, at 5:47 AM, Sascha Franck wrote: > Even if it's not only about sample links only anymore (which makes > things even better), you folks might be interested in this > (pretty much regularly updated) "2005 MEGA SOUND LINK list" some nice > fellow collected: > http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php? > t8291&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 Hi Sascha, This is incredible! Thank you. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions

On 20/4/05 10:02 PM, "Eli Krantzberg" <elik@...> wrote: > On Apr 20, 2005, at 5:47 AM, Sascha Franck wrote: > >> Even if it's not only about sample links only anymore (which makes >> things even better), you folks might be interested in this >> (pretty much regularly updated) "2005 MEGA SOUND LINK list" some nice >> fellow collected: >> http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php? >> t8291&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 > > Hi Sascha, > > This is incredible! Thank you. I second that, thanks Sascha. michael

Extraordinary. Merci beaucoup Sasha! Ned w w w . n e d f x . c o m ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬& not;¬¬ Ned Bouhalassa ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬& not;¬¬ n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

> > He said that there is no built-in keyswitching with GOS programming. > > EXS and Logic do support keyswitching. (Presumably you mean using notes > to do the keyswitching). You can use keyswitches to trigger different > groups in EXS or to control any switcheable parameters of plugins. > > There is an example of this on the bass trombone EXS instrument and the > Wah wah control environment, which are available from my site. > > > -- > Pete Thomas > www.petethomas.co.uk > - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments thanks Pete. I downloaded your tute. so keyswtiching is something done in the environment not in the matrix routing? angelo

Ned Bouhalassa wrote: > I use GOS and EXS. There's no built-in keyswitching with the GOS > programming, AFAIK, so you'll have to do it yourself. From: "panetta97" <panetta@...> >I was afraid that the exs does not support key switching. I did >configure a work around with the mod wheel. I have the maestro logic >environment, which is great, but was done back in logic 5, when it was >still available for PC. > >any recommendation on what you do instead of key switching? EXS certainly does support key switching. Ned is just saying that GOS doesn't use it. -- Nick Batzdorf - editor Virtual Instruments magazine (the world of softsynths and samplers) www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496), 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

panetta97 wrote: > > > >>He said that there is no built-in keyswitching with GOS programming. >> >>EXS and Logic do support keyswitching. (Presumably you mean using > > notes > >>to do the keyswitching). You can use keyswitches to trigger different >>groups in EXS or to control any switcheable parameters of plugins. >> >>There is an example of this on the bass trombone EXS instrument and the >>Wah wah control environment, which are available from my site. >> >> >>-- >>Pete Thomas >>www.petethomas.co.uk >>- Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments > > > thanks Pete. I downloaded your tute. so keyswtiching is something done > in the environment not in the matrix routing? Keyswitching groups in EXS is done directly in the EXS editor. It's not completely obvious, you need to make sure you have "select by" enabled in the EXS editor View menu. Here you define which note activates which group. The other keyswitching download I have is for activating a plugin bypass. This is done in the environment. It's easy to make a note on activate bypass on, but the subsequent note off deactivates it, which is not so useful. I have set this up so that aone note activates the bypass, the note off does nothing and a different npote deactivates the bypass. Much more useful. This is done by using buttons that transform note data to fader data. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

Here's what I need to do. 3 sets of upbow samples assigned to the mod wheel. to be triggered 0-64;65-80;81-127 3 sets of down bows assigned to the mod wheel. to be triggered 0-64;65-80;81-127 than to be able to switch between them with a key switch. I assume this can be done with zones and groups, but not sure how. angelo

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Pete Thomas <logic@p...> wrote: > It's at: > > http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-environment-downloads.html > > This replaces the old one, it's much better. > Pete Just want to say thanks for all the: 1.really cool advice you give, 2.really cool stuff on your site Your Gretsch kit has been in a lot of my productions and I have just finished a piece using the sax growls and laughs samples. I look forward to using the bass, trb and now the wah. Good to see you are doing well. Cheers and thanks David

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@g...> wrote: > Even if it's not only about sample links only anymore (which makes things even better), you folks might be interested in this > (pretty much regularly updated) "2005 MEGA SOUND LINK list" some nice fellow collected: > http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php? t8291&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 > > - Sascha I'll join in the chorus Sascha and give you another thank-you. Hats off to the originator of the list too! David

Hi Everyone, I'm using the EXS24 in L7 for the first time, but I don't like any of the default snare samples in any of the drum kits. When I load "Rock Kit" and open the editor, how do I audition the other samples in the same group, and select a different one? When I click on the "audio file" field in Zone 17, where the snare sample is listed, a file select dialog comes up, but all the other samples are grayed out. There's no step by step how-to in the Plug-in Reference manual for this. Can anyone help me? -Mark Bradford http://www.mark-bradford.com/

At 08:51 AM 04/20/2005, angelo wrote: >Here's what I need to do. > >3 sets of upbow samples assigned to the mod wheel. to be triggered >0-64;65-80;81-127 >3 sets of down bows assigned to the mod wheel. to be triggered >0-64;65-80;81-127 > >than to be able to switch between them with a key switch. > >I assume this can be done with zones and groups, but not sure how. > >angelo To my knowledge there's no way to combine modwheel crossfading and keyswitching in EXS. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I was involved in converting the entire GOS library to EXS last year and couldn't figure out a way to do that. The Expression patches make extensive use of the modwheel, and the Combi patches make extensive use of keyswitching, but not simultaneously.

To check any sample or group of samples,it¹s better to open your sample folders in the finder,displayed in the column mode,so you can preview any sample you want instantly. If you want to do the same job using the EXS editor you¹ll first have to load each sample in a zone to hear them in Logic!! Too much time consuming,isn¹t it?... Alain

Alain BERTHE wrote: > > To check any sample or group of samples,it¹s better to open your > sample folders in the finder,displayed in the column mode,so you can > preview any sample you want instantly. If you want to do the same job > using the EXS editor you¹ll first have to load each sample in a zone > to hear them in Logic!! Too much time consuming,isn¹t it?... > You can audition samples in EXS editor before loading them. There is a play button to audition and an add button to add the samples to a list before loading in the dialog box you get for "load multiple samples". Much quicker than using the finder. No need to create a zone first. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

Pete Thomas wrote: > You can audition samples in EXS editor before loading them. There is a > play button to audition and an add button to add the samples to a list > before loading in the dialog box you get for "load multiple samples". > Much quicker than using the finder. No need to create a zone first. Yeah - and in addition, when exchanging samples of one zone, there's even the "Auto-Exchange" box which will allow for previewing samples "in context". So you just keep your sequence playing (or trigger the note through your keyboard) and use the auto exchange feature until you find a sample that you like. (unless this feature has been removed in L7, which would be one of the most stupid steps backwards) - Sascha

thanks everyone for all your input, especially Pete Thomas. I was able to figure it out. you can assign mod wheel info and then use the :"select by" in the group window to choose your keyswitching. so now with THAT function and the GOS environment for logic (available at garritan site, as well as the whole library for exs <http://www.garritan.com/GPO-LogicPage.html>; I have now been able to translate all of the GOS library to the exs and keep all it's original settings. it's a beautiful world. angelo

Hi folks, Apple have put some new manuals online: http://www.apple.com/support/manuals/ Check p21/22 of the "What's new.." manual for some EXS24 news. Regards - Colin

Thanks, guys! I'll try your suggestions. -Mark Bradford Denver, CO, USA http://www.mark-bradford.com/

Sean McCoy wrote: > At 08:51 AM 04/20/2005, angelo wrote: > >>Here's what I need to do. >> >>3 sets of upbow samples assigned to the mod wheel. to be triggered >>0-64;65-80;81-127 >>3 sets of down bows assigned to the mod wheel. to be triggered >>0-64;65-80;81-127 >> >>than to be able to switch between them with a key switch. >> >>I assume this can be done with zones and groups, but not sure how. >> >>angelo > > > To my knowledge there's no way to combine modwheel crossfading and > keyswitching in EXS. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I was involved > in converting the entire GOS library to EXS last year and couldn't figure > out a way to do that. The Expression patches make extensive use of the > modwheel, and the Combi patches make extensive use of keyswitching, but not > simultaneously. Can't remember when it was added but you can definitely choose more than one "select by" for groups. This way you can have select by control and select by note so possible to have keyswitches and modwheel at the same time. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

At 10:42 AM 04/22/2005, you wrote: >Can't remember when it was added but you can definitely choose more than >one "select by" for groups. This way you can have select by control and >select by note so possible to have keyswitches and modwheel at the same >time. Thanks, Pete, good to know. I may have re-examine some of the GOS EXS instruments. As recently as February in discussions on the Northern Sounds Forum that included Gary and Garth, it was agreed that certain multi-layer Giga functions couldn't be duplicated in EXS. But I think those functions may have involved combining velocity switching with modwheel crossfading, and not keyswitching. I'll check it out.

Pete Thomas wrote: > I've uploaded a very simple but extremely useful Fender bass exs: > > http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-exs24-samples.html Hey Pete, just played around with that one. Pretty much amazing how nicely such a simple instrument is doing the job. I have some simple (yet pretty much larger, 7MB or so) patch of some Musicman bass sitting around here. It's more or less my default autoload bass, doing the job just fine too, at least IMO. Not as deep as yours, still useful. Maybe I'll post it later on. Regards, Sascha