>I have a lot of songs that project manager highlights sample >instruments and samples as red even though they play back fine in the >song. Surely if they're playing back in the song then the EXS has them >and project manager should be able to find them. Any ideas? My understanding is that if the sample instruments are not properly linked, Logic will still load them and search for the relevant samples at the time, every time. This is why they play back fine. Once the instrument files are correctly linked, they will load faster. I see from your 2nd post that you did scan, but you need to do more now. Select a red incomplete instrument, then go to the local <Functions> menu and choose <Find unresolved file references for selected items>. This will re-link the samples correctly to the instrument. Repeat this for all unresolved files. You must then <Save Project Manager data> from the <Functions> menu. One further suggestion: if you have a lot of sampler instruments, you should really consider getting EXSManager from Redmatica. It works like Project Manager, but about 200 times faster (seriously!). Hope this helps Colin

Hi Matt, These are nice and highly useful samples! Maybe I'll find the time to post some patch variations over easter. Thanks, Sascha

In a message dated 3/22/05 7:11:40 AM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com writes: > > do you know the best sounding piano for esx??? > I have Ivory. Keyboard magazine and Future Music both write that its the best software based piano for the computer hands down. The only complaint Ive read about it is that there is no stand alone version. I do have all the pianos (the old lady was my latest aqusition) and I have to admit I wished Id not purchased it and just stuck with the Ivory. -T

> One further suggestion: if you have a lot of sampler instruments, you > should really consider getting EXSManager from Redmatica. It works > like Project Manager, but about 200 times faster (seriously!). > > Hope this helps > Colin I wonder if this is still true with Logic 7.0.1. Bob Vandiver

Does anyone know if Apple is aware of, or cares, that the Sonic Implants library does not work properly with exs ? Referring to release samples or tails. Sonic Implants sales person said that while they enjoy a good relationship with sampler developers, they are only releasing and continuing to work on giga format for the symphonic library release scheduled for april 05. He didn't know when if ever they would have exs versions of the brass, ww or perc. Problem was that the release samples on note up produce strange sounds or do not blend properly with the note down sample itself. I just ran across this problem, what does anyone do about it ? The Apple guy said try the 99$ apple orchestra. petes sake. Lynne

On Mar 22, 2005, at 7:48 PM, bob_vandiver wrote: > > > >> One further suggestion: if you have a lot of sampler instruments, you >> should really consider getting EXSManager from Redmatica. It works >> like Project Manager, but about 200 times faster (seriously!). >> >> Hope this helps >> Colin > > I wonder if this is still true with Logic 7.0.1. Yes, it's still *that* faster.... Best Regards Andrea at Redmatica

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@g...> wrote: > Hi Matt, > > These are nice and highly useful samples! > Maybe I'll find the time to post some patch variations over easter. > > Thanks, > Sascha That would be great! -Matt

Thank you Garth! >32,768 is 2 to 16th power, a "watershed" point, a 16-bit integer. Just by curiosity, why is it 16th power ? Does that have to do with the "bit depth" of Logic's core programming ? I'm wondering about the chances this barrier could be overcome eventually...{crossing fingers} Is this a common sampler thing? Has anyone with GigaSampler or other software solutions experienced a less-limitative "barrier" ? Thank you very much, Phil ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

At 02:46 PM 3/22/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Thank you Garth! > > >32,768 is 2 to 16th power, a "watershed" point, a >16-bit integer. > >Just by curiosity, why is it 16th power ? >Does that have to do with the "bit depth" of >Logic's core programming ? >I'm wondering about the chances this barrier could be >overcome eventually...{crossing fingers} It just means that the EXS was programmed to carry 16-bits worth of menu data. It could be for a variety of reasons; perhaps the calls to OSX only allow for that amount. Or the programmers knew that over 32K would slow down the menu operation and thus didn't allow it. Macs have a special love affair with 16-bit integers, at least before OSX came along. More than likely it was an arbitrary decision where the programmer said "no one in their right mind would have that many instruments!" The whole industry has seen in this in some way. Remember when disks could only be 2gB? That's because the file systems only held 32-bits of location and size data. >Is this a common sampler thing? >Has anyone with GigaSampler or other software >solutions experienced >a less-limitative "barrier" ? Giga 2 only allowed for 32 sample references per key range, because internally they only allowed for 32-bits worth of dimensions. Now, this is my view in knowing their file format, but internally it has to do with...with.. something. =) Why don't these programs just allow for excessive room and put every to 64 bits or whatever? It degrades performance, among some other things. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:48 AM, bob_vandiver wrote: >> One further suggestion: if you have a lot of sampler instruments, you >> should really consider getting EXSManager from Redmatica. It works >> like Project Manager, but about 200 times faster (seriously!). > > I wonder if this is still true with Logic 7.0.1. I use the Project Manager that came with Logic 7.0.1 on a dual G5/2.5. I have tons of sampler instruments and never ever have problems with any of them loading. Maybe a new computer is really what you need. David

> > do you know the best sounding piano for esx??? --- Huud@... wrote: > I have Ivory. Keyboard magazine and Future Music > both write that its the best software based piano > for the computer hands down. The only complaint Ive > read about it is that there is no stand alone version. > I do have all the pianos (the old lady was my latest > aqusition) and I have to admit I wished Id not > purchased it and just stuck with the Ivory. Dose Ivory AU work well with Logic? I checkd illo's web site and they seem fully suported Logic in recent upgrade. thank u Y

Hi all, I'm having a problem with the EXS24 sampler in Logic 7 not being able to find samples located in an external firewire tower. I created an alias of the sampler instruments file that resides in the firewire tower in the Logic Pro folder. The exs instruments and associated samples reside next to each other in the same folder on the external drive. Now I would think that when I select an exs instrument to be loaded, it would find the instrument and related samples and load instantly since they are in the same folder. But this does not happen, the sampler searches every external drive and still does not find the related samples. I have changed the EXS24 sampler to scan all volumes and external volumes with the same results. I've even run EXSManager and while the program loads much more quickly, nothing else has changed. What's going wrong and what do I need to do to get the sampler to find and load the related samples? thanks, Arthur

> Dose Ivory AU work well with Logic? I checkd illo's > web site and they seem fully suported Logic in > recent upgrade. I have Ivory too and I understand how you feel about this awesome instrument. I do have encountered problems though but then again my setup may be different from yours and that may explain why I sometimes suddenly get this loud buzzing sound for about 10secs then Logic just quits. It's happened so many times already but occasionally it works fine. I use Logic Pro with my entire ProTools Accel setup. g

Hi..I don't have Ivory but have found that if the voice allocation is set too high and I'm playing with the sustain pedal It does a similiar thing..I use the voices at 32 and haven't had that problem again.At least with the pianos that came with Pro7..May not apply for you..T .......... .......... --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Under Construction <all2breal@y...> wrote: > > > Dose Ivory AU work well with Logic? I checkd illo's > > web site and they seem fully suported Logic in > > recent upgrade. > > I have Ivory too and I understand how you feel about > this awesome instrument. I do have encountered > problems though but then again my setup may be > different from yours and that may explain why I > sometimes suddenly get this loud buzzing sound for > about 10secs then Logic just quits. It's happened so > many times already but occasionally it works fine. > I use Logic Pro with my entire ProTools Accel setup. > > g

> > Dose Ivory AU work well with Logic? I checkd illo's > > web site and they seem fully suported Logic in > > recent upgrade. --- Under Construction <all2breal@...> wrote: > I have Ivory too and I understand how you feel about > this awesome instrument. I do have encountered > problems though but then again my setup may be > different from yours and that may explain why I > sometimes suddenly get this loud buzzing sound for > about 10secs then Logic just quits. It's happened so > many times already but occasionally it works fine. > I use Logic Pro with my entire ProTools Accel setup. hmm..... I should wait a bit more for this awsome instrument. I may wait till next minor upgrade to see if I still wanna buy this product.

On a fine day, 22-03-2005, Garth Hjelte wrote: >Why don't these programs just allow for excessive room and put every to 64 >bits or whatever? It degrades performance, among some other things. The problem, imo, is that every amount of "excessive room" will one day feel like a "crammed space". It's been like that for ages. Bill Gates once said that '640 k (ram) should be enough for anyone'. Doh... My first machine had 2 mb ram, then came 4 mb, then 64, 128, 500... and nowadays we're talking GB's. Ditto with storage: from a 30 mb harddisk, to 210 mb, 1 gb, 10 gb, 40, 60, and now having 500 gb is absolutely feasible. If things continue growing this way, we'll relatively soon have a terabyte of ram and multiple terabytes of storage... and still run out of memory or diskspace one day. Processing power: same story. Using 32 bit integers, as the EXS seems to do, makes complete sense -- or at least it used to do. Imagine opening a menu with 32k menu items on an Atari... lol, that probably would take a day or so :). The problem is not the limitation, since there'll always be one. The problem is the speed with which programmers lift the ceiling once they're able to. They simply don't keep up with the user's demands, even when lifting the ceiling would technically be possible (processors are fast enough to allow for 32k+ menus nowadays, for example). As to the 'why' of that: I don't know, but it simply seems to be a fact of life, and holds not just in the computer industry. Stupid example: the average male over here is some 1.80 m tall (a bit taller, I think, if you disregard the 50+ generation). A standard bed is 2 m long. Allow for some feet- and headroom, a pillow and such, and it's obvious that the average male doesn't really fit in an average bed. The obvious solution would be to make beds that are 2.20 m, or even longer. Why don't they? Beats me... Oh well, end of ramblings... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Hello group, Is anyone using VSL's Opus 1 in EXS format? I'm wondering if there are a lot of KS programs to make it easy to switch articulations on the fly... Thanks! Ned

There are many KS programms. In the "standard all" programms you can switch all articulations but you need lots of ram, you have many extra KSs for switching up/downstrokes etc. in a single articulation There are no KSs for switching between e.g. Violins pizz and sordino. hope this helps Klaus Hello group, Is anyone using VSL's Opus 1 in EXS format? I'm wondering if there are a lot of KS programs to make it easy to switch articulations on the fly... Thanks! Ned ____________________________________________________________________ EXS* Users Group - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; .

At 05:37 AM 03/24/2005, you wrote: >Hello group, > >Is anyone using VSL's Opus 1 in EXS format? I'm wondering if there are >a lot of KS programs to make it easy to switch articulations on the >fly... Yes there are. And the Performance-Legato tool works very well. Just make sure you have a BIG computer!

Very helpful feedback Sean and Klaus - thanks! Ned PS: I have a dual G5 and 2Gb of RAM (I'll probably need more...)

I've asked this before, so excuse me if I feel stoopid! What can cause an instrument to bypass the amplitude envelope's settings again? I've got an instrument that won't respond to any of the parameter changes I make in Env 2, like sustain at '0', for eg. Thanks! Ned

At 15:29 Uhr -0500 24.03.2005, Ned Bouhalassa wrote: >What can cause an instrument to bypass the amplitude envelope's >settings again? I've got an instrument that won't respond to any of the >parameter changes I make in Env 2, like sustain at '0', for eg. There is an option in the instrument editor where you can adjust the envelope for groups. If you don't see them check the corresponding box in the view menu of the instrument editor. Hope this is the solution. Cheers Hans

Group ADSR Offsets - Thanks Hans!!! Best, Ned On 24-Mar-05, at 6:38 PM, Hans Hafner wrote: > There is an option in the instrument editor where you can adjust the > envelope for groups. If you don't see them check the corresponding > box in the view menu of the instrument editor. w w w . n e d f x . c o m ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬& not;¬¬ Ned Bouhalassa ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬& not;¬¬ n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

On Mar 23, 2005, at 2:25 AM, arthur perkins wrote: > Hi all, > I'm having a problem with the EXS24 sampler in Logic 7 > not being able to find samples located in an external > firewire tower. Turns out that Arthur did use a cd burning software that modified his filenames. In general, at least the basic "Joliet" format should always be used or the files will be renamed to 8+3 MSDOS, damaging the library. Best Regards Andrea at Redmatica

> At 07:39 AM 1/27/2005 -0800, you wrote: > > Dan sent me some .art update files with sustained loops, but of > > course EXS can't do anything with those. I don't believe Translator > > or CDXtract can convert .art files to EXS, either. On Jan 27, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Garth Hjelte wrote: > Translator on Windows does. An .art file is essentially all new > Instrument information without the samples. Hi Garth, Is this feature going to be available for Mac in the future? julie www.julielarson.net