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From: "Harald Schneller" <haraldschneller@...>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 at 5:04:24 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: oboe samples
Message #13726
Somewhere in this world there is an oboist, male or female preferably, since this is a female instrument to me, although hard to process, recording a solo performance in a studio and with some time left after the recording doing an EXS24 instrument and giving it to us, thank you in advance
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From: jonathan gibson <bassballjg@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 2:11:25 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: oboe samples
Message #13727
This is a reply to #13722.
--- Donnie <donnie@...> wrote: > > > Hi! You might want to check out our oboe as well. > > > It is the most extensively sampled > > > oboe on the market as far as articulations and > > > velocity layers. It is also only $99.00 > > > > > > Here are a couple of demos... http://www.donniechristianstudios.com/mp3demos/PeterOboe.mp3 > > > > > > This one has the oboe as well as some of the other > > > woodwinds an the cello... > > > http://www.donniechristianstudios.com/mp3demos/EndofTime.mp3 > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, jonathan gibson > <bassballjg@y...> wrote: > > > > Do these actually exist? > --- Donnie <donnie@...> wrote: > Yes, as a matter of fact there is a free oboe demo > (in Kontakt) on my website that you are > welcome to download if you like. > > Donnie > In the interests of full disclosure: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tt698 Donnie, good luck with the Celeste, I really hope you're on the level.
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From: "markdvc2002" <mark@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 4:45:55 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: oboe samples
Message #13728
This is a reply to #13726.
There is a set of Oboe samples available free here: http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.Oboe.html they just need to be assembled into EXS instruments kind regards Mark Cahill
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From: "taylormorgantaylor" <taylormorgantaylor@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 8:17:29 AM
Subject: ultrabeat samples??
Message #13729
Hi..I was wondering if anyone knows if you can create ultrabeat samples with the EXS??They have a ubs. exstension and I haven't found any mention of a way to make your own in the L7 manual..Any body know about if it can be done.Or if it;s a file that can only be made by Apple>Co..T
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From: "mandcmiller" <mandcmiller@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 8:40:04 AM
Subject: Re: ultrabeat samples??
Message #13730
This is a reply to #13729.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "taylormorgantaylor" <taylormorgantaylor@y...> wrote: > > > Hi..I was wondering if anyone knows if you can create ultrabeat samples with > the EXS??They have a ubs. exstension and I haven't found any mention of a > way to make your own in the L7 manual..Any body know about if it can be > done.Or if it;s a file that can only be made by Apple>Co..T I like to make samples from the ES1 and ES2 soft synths. I do this by accessing the sound via MIDI, bouncing the triggered sound to disk and then editing the sound. A bit of work I suppose but it works. Matt
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From: Alain BERTHE <Alain.Berthe1@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 9:58:37 AM
Subject: [EXS] Re: oboe samples
Message #13731
This is a reply to #13728.
Thank You for this wonderfull link,Mark Alain Berthe
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From: "HKC" <hkc@...>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 at 11:45:00 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: oboe samples
Message #13732
This is a reply to #13731.
Alain Berthe wrote: Thank You for this wonderfull link,Mark What wonderful link was that, I must have missed this one.
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From: "taylormorgantaylor" <taylormorgantaylor@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 11:21:31 AM
Subject: Re: ultrabeat samples??
Message #13733
This is a reply to #13730.
Hi Matt.I know many formats can be loaded but the ones that come with ultrabeat have the ability to crossfade via velocity..When a wav/aiff/etc file is used you don't get the option to load two samples and velocity switch them..With the ubs files you load ONE and get two samples that are able to be adjusted independently as far as velocity swithching goes..It must be some new format.It's not mentioned in anything I've read so far in the logic7 manual...Thanks..T
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From: Colin Shapiro <musos@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 12:15:55 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: ultrabeat samples??
Message #13734
This is a reply to #13733.
> Hi Matt.I know many formats can be loaded but the ones that come with >ultrabeat have the ability to crossfade via velocity..When a >wav/aiff/etc file is >used you don't get the option to load two samples and velocity switch >them..With the ubs files you load ONE and get two samples that are able to be >adjusted independently as far as velocity swithching goes..It must be some >new format.It's not mentioned in anything I've read so far in the logic7 >manual...Thanks..T Good question! Have you tried posting on the Apple/Logic forum? Unfortunately, the manual seems to indicate this can't be done: User-supplied samples loaded into Ultrabeat cannot be separated into velocitydependent layers, and therefore the Vel Layer slider has no effect on samples you have created and imported. If so, this is very user-exclusive and as such....sucks! Regards - Colin
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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 2:02:22 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: ultrabeat samples??
Message #13735
This is a reply to #13734.
At 20:15 Uhr +0200 21.02.2005, Colin Shapiro wrote: > >With the ubs files you load ONE and get two samples that are able to be > >adjusted independently as far as velocity swithching goes..It must be some > >new format.It's not mentioned in anything I've read so far in the logic7 > >manual...Thanks..T Funny thing: if you double click a .ubs file Logic crashes... hehe so much for open format. I admit it would make Ultrabeat even more useful if we were able to fill it with our own samples. Or samples from other libraries. I just love the way you can deal with drum sounds in Ultrabeat... but I have cooler sounds than the ones supplied... :-) at least I think so... Cheers Hans
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From: Alain BERTHE <Alain.Berthe1@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 1:23:06 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: oboe samples
Message #13736
This is a reply to #13732.
Mark Cahill gave gave us a link to this site : http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.html I think I¹ll be up tonight!! Cheers, Alain Berthe
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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 2:14:57 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: oboe samples
Message #13737
This is a reply to #13736.
At 20:23 Uhr +0100 21.02.2005, Alain BERTHE wrote: >Mark Cahill gave gave us a link to this site : >http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.html >I think I'll be up tonight!! Wow, that is a lot of stuff... Wonder why they haven't put it in an archive. :-) Cheers Hans
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 3:41:40 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: oboe samples
Message #13738
This is a reply to #13737.
Regarding the MIS samples: Critical stuff IMO. Very tough to loop (and most of the notes aren't sufficiently long enough for any sustained things), some sounds are horribly out of tune too. In addition, on some instruments even the FF notes still aren't louder than -30dB or something (IIRC). Now yes, they seem to be recorded properly - but still, there goes all your bit depth. - Sascha
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From: Andris Sice <hasice@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 4:39:39 PM
Subject: OT: losing the plot (Attn Steve H)
Message #13739
This is a reply to #13728.
Steve, Your article hits a few nails lo on the head. Congratulations! In case anyone's interested, the Sound on Sound article I'm referring to is here: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar05/articles/soundingoff.htm Not sure, you may have to be a subscriber. OK, the article isn't specifically about the EXS but it does mention production techniques we can probably all relate to and Steve *is* on this list. Andris
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From: jonathan gibson <bassballjg@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 4:51:55 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] OT: losing the plot (Attn Steve H)
Message #13740
This is a reply to #13739.
--- Andris Sice <hasice@...> wrote: > Steve, > > Your article hits a few nails lo on the head. > Congratulations! > > In case anyone's interested, the Sound on Sound > article I'm referring > to is here: > > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar05/articles/soundingoff.htm > > Not sure, you may have to be a subscriber. > > OK, the article isn't specifically about the EXS but > it does mention > production techniques we can probably all relate to > and Steve *is* on > this list. > > Andris > Thanks for this post, Andris. What a great read. Steve Howell, the colossus of common sense and straight talk strikes again, on point as always. Good job, Steve.
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From: "Paul Stephenson" <pauls@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 4:55:47 PM
Subject: RE: [EXS] OT: losing the plot (Attn Steve H)
Message #13741
That article was terrific. Paul ________________________________ From: jonathan gibson [mailto:bassballjg@...] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 4:52 PM To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [EXS] OT: losing the plot (Attn Steve H) --- Andris Sice <hasice@...> wrote: > Steve, > > Your article hits a few nails lo on the head. > Congratulations! > > In case anyone's interested, the Sound on Sound > article I'm referring > to is here: > > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar05/articles/soundingoff.htm > > Not sure, you may have to be a subscriber. > > OK, the article isn't specifically about the EXS but > it does mention > production techniques we can probably all relate to > and Steve *is* on > this list. > > Andris > Thanks for this post, Andris. What a great read. Steve Howell, the colossus of common sense and straight talk strikes again, on point as always. Good job, Steve. ____________________________________________________________________ EXS* Users Group - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG911g6hs/M32638.5924353.7047234.2127756/ D=groups/S05017563:HM/EXP09112805/A%76732/R=2/id=noscript/SIG geu0nm6/*http:/www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/ -/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VRDVC10&Dept=cpu_dvd cdburners&CategoryName=cpu_Sony_PCAccessories_CD%2fDVDBurn_DVDirect& DCMP =YAHOO&HQS=DVDirect_AV_300x250> <http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/so/sony_electronics/sony_yahoo_dvdd irect_300_20105.gif> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M32638.5924353.7047234.2127756/D=group s/S=:HM/A%76732/rand96308432> ________________________________ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; .
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 5:15:10 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] OT: losing the plot (Attn Steve H)
Message #13742
This is a reply to #13740.
Brilliant!
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From: "Micke Nilsson" <mickenilsson@...>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 at 12:11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [EXS] OT: losing the plot (Attn Steve H)
Message #13743
This is a reply to #13741.
hear, hear!!!! mn &gt;From: &quot;Paul Stephenson&quot; &lt;pauls@...&gt; &gt;Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com &gt;To: &lt;exs-users@yahoogroups.com&gt; &gt;Subject: RE: [EXS] OT: losing the plot (Attn Steve H) &gt;Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:55:47 -0600 &gt; &gt;That article was terrific. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Paul &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;________________________________ &gt; &gt;From: jonathan gibson [mailto:bassballjg@...] &gt;Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 4:52 PM &gt;To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com &gt;Subject: Re: [EXS] OT: losing the plot (Attn Steve H) &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;--- Andris Sice &lt;hasice@...&gt; wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; Steve, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Your article hits a few nails lo on the head. &gt; &gt; Congratulations! &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; In case anyone's interested, the Sound on Sound &gt; &gt; article I'm referring &gt; &gt; to is here: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar05/articles/soundingoff.htm &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Not sure, you may have to be a subscriber. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; OK, the article isn't specifically about the EXS but &gt; &gt; it does mention &gt; &gt; production techniques we can probably all relate to &gt; &gt; and Steve *is* on &gt; &gt; this list. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Andris &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Thanks for this post, Andris. What a great read. &gt;Steve Howell, the colossus of common sense and &gt;straight talk strikes again, on point as always. Good &gt;job, Steve. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;____________________________________________________________________ &gt; EXS* Users Group &gt;- To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com &gt;- EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ &gt;- Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ &gt;- To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Yahoo! Groups Sponsor &gt; &gt;ADVERTISEMENT &gt;&lt;http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG911g6hs/M32638.5924353.7047234.2 127756/ &gt;D=groups/S05017563:HM/EXP09112805/A%76732/R=2/id=noscript/SIG &gt;geu0nm6/*http:/www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store /en/ &gt;-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VRDVC10&amp; Dept=cpu_dvd &gt;cdburners&amp;CategoryName=cpu_Sony_PCAccessories_CD%2fDVDBurn_D VDirect&amp;DCMP &gt;=YAHOO&amp;HQS=DVDirect_AV_300x250&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/so/sony_electronics/sony _yahoo_dvdd &gt;irect_300_20105.gif&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M32638.5924353.7047234.212775 6/D=group &gt;s/S=:HM/A%76732/rand96308432&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;________________________________ &gt; &gt;Yahoo! Groups Links &gt; &gt;* To visit your group on the web, go to: &gt; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/ &gt; &gt;* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: &gt; exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com &gt;&lt;mailto:exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubsc ribe&gt; &gt; &gt;* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of &gt;Service &lt;http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/&gt; . &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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From: Alain BERTHE <Alain.Berthe1@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 6:48:51 PM
Subject: [EXS] Re: oboe samples
Message #13744
This is a reply to #13738.
In fact,you¹re right about the usabitlty of this stuff: its pretty poor. I¹ve let myself been impressed by the presentation of the whole thing. But the material looks more like student home work. I checked all the sounds:wouldn¹t make any sample instrument with them. Sorry for any speeded heart!! The Quest must go on!!! Alain
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From: "sam ward" <samward@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 9:02:10 PM
Subject: How to you convert these samples?
Message #13745
I've been watching the posts about the musical instrument samples at <http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/>; Can you convert these to EXS samples and how? Thanks
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From: "Harald Schneller" <haraldschneller@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 11:39:01 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: oboe samples
Message #13746
Will somebody give us the EXS files to these instruments please, I don't jabe the slightest idea how to produce that document, thanks >http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.html
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From: "taylormorgantaylor" <taylormorgantaylor@...>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 6:35:29 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] OT: losing the plot (Attn Steve H)
Message #13747
This is a reply to #13742.
Hi..I find it obsurd(is that a word>)..That it even has to be put into fiction to be a bravo..Isn't or rather hasn't it allways been about the music??I feel the whole computer thing to be about the truest thing to so called LO-FI as there could ever be. When the technology appears to be able to provide a better product then what occurs naturally it folds back upon itself and reveals the true limitations that are everpresent with all recording processes..That being talent being captured by the talented(think Tom Dowd) And all the other greats of recording..And then there are the great performances captured by less creatives that it had no bearing on.In so much as the moment.although perhaps not near prefect in recording was too great to have even that less then perfect capture tarnish it.I;m guilty of the whole blown away by what I can get for a buck now as opposed to say 15 years ago..Got a bit lost there in wanting and feeling I couldn't move forward or back without the newest tech installed.I'm glad to not be that way anymore(oh at least 93% of the time)..I applaud your work an commitment to the "hollow Sun" project.I have attempted to turn folks onto your site every chance I have gotten..Hope this finds you well and inspired..T
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From: Andy Hardwake <andyhardwake@...>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 at 2:23:43 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] OT: losing the plot (Attn Steve H)
Message #13748
This is a reply to #13740.
> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar05/articles/soundingoff.htm ROTFLMAO!!! Noone could've said it better. Best, Andy (an oldfashioned musician who always plays live into Logic then reclocks the song to what he just played :-) )
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 at 4:49:21 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] How to you convert these samples?
Message #13749
This is a reply to #13745.
sam ward wrote: > I've been watching the posts about the musical instrument samples at > <http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/>; > Can you convert these to EXS samples and how? Thanks There has been a group effort to convert these into EXS instruments, but it has been stopped - admittedly, it's been my fault as well, but in the end they are not worth it, unless you do some massive destructive tweakings. Apart from that, why don't you have a look into the EXS manual about how to create patches? - Sascha
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From: Alain BERTHE <Alain.Berthe1@...>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 at 7:55:07 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] How to you convert these samples?
Message #13750
This is a reply to #13749.
sam ward wrote: > I've been watching the posts about the musical instrument samples at > <http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/>; > Can you convert these to EXS samples and how? Thanks There has been a group effort to convert these into EXS instruments, but it has been stopped - admittedly, it's been my fault as well, but in the end they are not worth it, unless you do some massive destructive tweakings. Apart from that, why don't you have a look into the EXS manual about how to create patches? - Sascha Yes,I spent several hours yesterday trying to do something with those files. The recording quality is OK it seems, but the performing sucks! It¹s really not worth trying to slice and edit those hundred of files (3.16Gbytes!!!). I¹ll maybe try to do something with the piano files,but without using all the files, wich amount to more than 1Gb for the piano only!! I think my little G4 400MHz would not appreciate Cheers, Alain
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