With a bit of luck, people at apple will wake up and buy the soft. That way redmatica will make some good profit and we would get a REAL upgrade to talk about (and no crash and bugs !). Then again, maybe redmatica would n t want that, I m not that business savy.... > http://www.redmatica.com/Site/Pages/KM.php > Wow... love these guys. > rRand > > > > >

On 20.01.2005, at 15:55, Gramophone wrote: > With a bit of luck, people at apple will wake up and buy the soft. No! Don't tell them! Peter Ostry

Hans Hafner wrote: > At 12:54 Uhr +0000 20.01.2005, Pete Thomas wrote: > >>Nothing happens when I hit a note, there is no EXS instrument! > > > But there is an EXS instantiatedn AudiInst 001, right? Did you look > in the environment in Clicks & Ports? Maybe my keyboard is on a > different port than yours. Sorry, should have fixed that and put the > sum of MIDI to the sequencer. > > It doesn't need an instrument to test this. A blank EXS will produce > a sine wave. Maybe you have to hit play once? > > You can also just do this: > > Open an EXS > > Set the third "target" in the router to "pan" > set the source to "LFO 1" > set LFO 1 to "1" and pulse > move the little trianlge next to the router all the way up or down. > > play a note. > > You will hear that one channel will stay loud and the other and the > other do as expected (be on and off. > > I just tried it again in a new song... same result. > > Please, someone confirm this. > Still not quite sure what you mean, especially by "> set LFO 1 to "1" and pulse" -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

At 19:41 Uhr +0000 20.01.2005, Pete Thomas wrote: >Still not quite sure what you mean, especially by >"> set LFO 1 to "1" and pulse" Alright, I have now uploaded a preset file to this address again. http://www.parasitenews.com/logic_stuff/logic_stuff.html open it from the settings triangle of the EXS. You have to use the stereo version of the EXS obviously. It will _not_ contain a sample and doesn't need to as an empty EXS will produce a sine wave and it's enough to check what I'm talking about. The panning doesn't do what it should, or maybe I'm expecting something else, but what it does doesn't make any sense. Cheers and thanks for taking the time to confirm this. Hans

Hi, Just quickly.... If you want to hear how some sounds will sound *IN AN EXS*, Sascha's knocked up a little demo tune on his EXS that shows of some of the modulation programming he's built into the sounds. http://www.hollowsun.com/cds/m01_page.html You'll see the demo listed. It's very simple but effective. Hope to bring you some more. Nice one Sascha! Best regards, Steve http://www.hollowsun.com

I have just uploaded an EXS instrument of the famous "Saxophone Laugh". http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-exs24-samples.html Every note sampled from F3 - Eb4. Recorded on 1944 Conn 10M "Naked Lady" tenor saxophone. 24 bit aif samples. 1.5 GB zip file. Absolutely free to cheer everyone up. Play it as a descending chromatic scale, be happy. Let me know if there are any bugs. Please let me know (and give me a credit) if you use it commercially, that's the only catch. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

At 20:58 Uhr +0100 20.01.2005, Hans Hafner wrote: >Alright, I have now uploaded a preset file to this address again. > >http://www.parasitenews.com/logic_stuff/logic_stuff.html > >open it from the settings triangle of the EXS. You have to use the >stereo version of the EXS obviously. > >It will _not_ contain a sample and doesn't need to as an empty EXS >will produce a sine wave and it's enough to check what I'm talking >about. > >The panning doesn't do what it should, or maybe I'm expecting >something else, but what it does doesn't make any sense. > >Cheers and thanks for taking the time to confirm this. Anybody tried this yet? Cheers Hans

More saxophone stuff (demos for now, ie limited key range but useful nonetheless. Big downloads - 24 bit aif files. Also a very very live Gretsch drumkit, nicely recorded on stereo overheads in a nice room. I know there have been loads of drumkits lately, this one _is_ a bit different. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

On Jan 21, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Pete Thomas wrote: > > Also a very very live Gretsch drumkit, nicely recorded on stereo > overheads in a nice room. > > I know there have been loads of drumkits lately, this one _is_ a bit > different. Lovely drums!!! Thanks. This makes a GREAT jazz kit. I love the big "Joe Morello" sounding kik drum. And the whole "room" vibe really adds to the whole "feel" of the kit. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions

Hans Hafner wrote: > At 20:58 Uhr +0100 20.01.2005, Hans Hafner wrote: > >>Alright, I have now uploaded a preset file to this address again. >> >>http://www.parasitenews.com/logic_stuff/logic_stuff.html >> >>open it from the settings triangle of the EXS. You have to use the >>stereo version of the EXS obviously. >> >>It will _not_ contain a sample and doesn't need to as an empty EXS >>will produce a sine wave and it's enough to check what I'm talking >>about. >> >>The panning doesn't do what it should, or maybe I'm expecting >>something else, but what it does doesn't make any sense. >> >>Cheers and thanks for taking the time to confirm this. > > > Anybody tried this yet? Panning works for triangle wave only -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

Great stuff - thanks Pete! - Lenny >More saxophone stuff (demos for now, ie limited key range but useful >nonetheless. Big downloads - 24 bit aif files. > >Also a very very live Gretsch drumkit, nicely recorded on stereo >overheads in a nice room. > >I know there have been loads of drumkits lately, this one _is_ a bit >different. > >-- >Pete Thomas >www.petethomas.co.uk >- Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments > -- =========================================================================Len ny Stearns lens@... Alexandria, Virginia =========================================================================

I'll donate the proceeds of this sale to Tsunami campaign. I'm just fed up of this stuff doing nothing while folks are suffering over there. Items will go to highest offers. Ableton Live V3 $90 or crazy offer Acid Pro (Windows) V2 $30 or crazee offer Acid loop library CDs (works as Apple Loops) Latin Perc Pandora's Toolbox NY dance Futurist Drum n bass R & B drums On the Jazz Tip $50 or crazy offer as long as they allow a transfer (not sure about this) Protools TDM software 5.0.1 (I sold the hardware without transferring the licence so I can transfer the licence). I don't know if this has any value: It's the whole bundle that came with the Digi rig, however it includes MH Channelstrip and I have an email from MH confirming they will transfer the licence so it may be worth buying for that). Other plugins (eg waves but there is a stupid transfer fee from them bastards). This is a few years old, it's OS 9 and Windows NT floppies(!) and a bunch of CDs and manuals in a lovely big glossy box. $30 or crazy offer All subject to legal licence transfers and postage from UK. You don't pay till I confirm they will transfer the licences, not sure whether they will with the Acid CDs. Money can be paid direct the charity to save me paying tax on it. Go on make me a crazy offer, if nobody else does it could be yours for $1.99. You can of course offer higher as well. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

On 22/1/05 12:14 AM, "Pete Thomas" <logic@...> wrote: > > More saxophone stuff (demos for now, ie limited key range but useful > nonetheless. Big downloads - 24 bit aif files. > > Also a very very live Gretsch drumkit, nicely recorded on stereo > overheads in a nice room. > > I know there have been loads of drumkits lately, this one _is_ a bit > different. Good stuff, thanks Pete. michael

There is no mention of gigastudio files in the manual can they be converted by EXS . if so how? MARC

At 01:11 PM 01/21/2005, you wrote: >There is no mention of gigastudio files in the manual can they be converted >by EXS . if so how? MARC Place a gig file in the Sample Instruments directory and open in EXS. It will convert the file into samples and EXS instruments. Translator and CDXtract can also do the conversion.

Hoping somebody can help me. I have so much new gear to learn and so little free time. I note that the EXS 24 appears as a Mulit-output instrument. Does this mean I may load more than one inststrument per EXS 24 instance, as in a multi- timbral hardware sampler? If so, how? All attempts have failed. This is not covered in the manual. Alternativley, does it mean that I may send individual outs for, say, a drum kit. Again, using the Aux objects set up as one does for DFH Superior, I have no activity in anything but the main stereo outs for that EXS instance. I know this must be basic. Apologies, but so much to learn, so little time. Appreciate any assistance. Simon Binks sjbinks@...

At 6:24 Uhr +0000 24.01.2005, Simon Binks wrote: >Does this mean I may load more than one inststrument per EXS 24 >instance, as in a multi- >timbral hardware sampler? If so, how? All attempts have failed. No. >Alternativley, does it mean that I may send individual outs for, >say, a drum kit. Yes. This is exactly what it means. However, a couple of things: - I find timing getting worse when using the EXS that way. - Soloing doesn't work correctly either anymore. You have to solo the track and solo the aux. - You can't freeze multi-out instruments. Personally I've gone back to having 8 tracks for a drumset, seems more flexible for my workflow. Cheers Hans

Hans Hafner wrote: > At 6:24 Uhr +0000 24.01.2005, Simon Binks wrote: > >>Does this mean I may load more than one inststrument per EXS 24 >>instance, as in a multi- >>timbral hardware sampler? If so, how? All attempts have failed. > > > No. > > >>Alternativley, does it mean that I may send individual outs for, >>say, a drum kit. > > > Yes. This is exactly what it means. > > However, a couple of things: > > - I find timing getting worse when using the EXS that way. > - Soloing doesn't work correctly either anymore. You have to solo the > track and solo the aux. > - You can't freeze multi-out instruments. > > Personally I've gone back to having 8 tracks for a drumset, seems > more flexible for my workflow. An alternative way of working which gives you a pseudo multitimbral/multioutput drumkit is to create an old fashioned MIDI instrument set to omni and cable this to multiple EXS24s each set to receive on a unique channel. You just use the MIDI instrument on an arrange track, that way you have just one track with different notes on different channels to address each instance of EXS. And you can mix the EXS24s separately in your audio environment. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

At 9:50 Uhr +0000 24.01.2005, Pete Thomas wrote: >An alternative way of working which gives you a pseudo >multitimbral/multioutput drumkit is to create an old fashioned MIDI >instrument set to omni and cable this to multiple EXS24s each set to >receive on a unique channel. > >You just use the MIDI instrument on an arrange track, that way you have >just one track with different notes on different channels to address >each instance of EXS. > >And you can mix the EXS24s separately in your audio environment. Yes, the only problem is that most of my drums in the EXS are not mapped the same was so then I have to do a lot of customisation every time I use drums. I find it easier to just pull up another EXS and load the instrument I'm looking for play away and have it right there. What would be a nice feature of Logic is to unload samples from the EXS' memory that aren't being played. Would save quite some resources. But of course this requires quite some planning and clever thinking before and the development costs are probably higher than the benefit for most people. Cheers Hans

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hans Hafner <hanshafner@g...> wrote: > At 9:50 Uhr +0000 24.01.2005, Pete Thomas wrote: > >An alternative way of working which gives you a pseudo > >multitimbral/multioutput drumkit is to create an old fashioned MIDI > >instrument set to omni and cable this to multiple EXS24s each set to > >receive on a unique channel. > > I use a variation on this theme, expressly for drums. I have 8 EXS tied to a midi object (which is where I record all the drums from on the arrange page), all on the same channel but each EXS set to play only one sound - kick, or hat, or snare, etc. I discovered that the first beat played always sounded late but if I inserted an I/O helper into each track - set to input 1+2 and then disabled - this delayed first beat issue was solved. > Yes, the only problem is that most of my drums in the EXS are not > mapped the same was so then I have to do a lot of customisation every > time I use drums. I spent a little time isolating all my kit pieces and creating a single EXS instrument for each one. I also use a mapped instrument just behind the midi object so if any sounds are in the 'wrong' place it's easy enough to simply drag the played note to the relevent EXS mapped note. Another way is to have the same EXS instrument open in several instances at once. That way each kit piece has it's own track although this means it's not possible to 'play' the whole kit at any one time. Samples are pooled so opening more than one instance of the same EXS instrument shares the one sample set across all instruments. A multitimbral EXS with effects would negate all this piddling around! I had high hopes for Ultrabeat until I opened it and wish I hadn't :) Maybe next upgrade, upgrade, upgrade, upgrade.....

Is it legal to download a demo of a VSTi, sample the sounds, then use the samples in EXS24 without buying the original product? I'm thinking no, but not sure. Thanks, Best regards, Henrik Buus Jensen

Henrik Buus Jensen wrote: > > Is it legal to download a demo of a VSTi, sample the sounds, then > use the samples in EXS24 without buying the original product? > > I'm thinking no, but not sure. > I would imagine no, but I bet you'd find lawyers happy to take on the fight - but not on a no win no fee basis! For example, look at the Linplug download page: "The Demos are fully functional. The only restriction that applies to demo versions is that they emit a noise about once every minute." A lawyer would argue that the words "only restriction" pertaining just to the burst of noise gives you carte blanche to do what you want. The legal stuff at the bottom of the page doesn't say anything specific about permission. However if you ask them they will say you can't do what you are suggesting. If you do it you have to decide if you can afford to argue that you can if it comes to court (which is very unlikely - they won't know unless you get a big hit and then I think you will be happy to pay for the full version) It's an interesting question. It's strange that most supermarkets here in England now trust people to scan their own food. Most garages trust you to fill up before paying. The percentage of honest people is surprisingly large where physical theft is concerned, but not, I think, where intellectual property is concerned. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Pete Thomas <logic@p...> wrote: > The percentage of honest people is > surprisingly large where physical theft is concerned, but not, I think, > where intellectual property is concerned. Very well put, Pete. This comment should be set in stone. kind regards Mark Cahill

On 25.01.2005, at 12:04, Henrik Buus Jensen wrote: > Is it legal to download a demo of a VSTi, sample the sounds, then > use the samples in EXS24 without buying the original product? > > I'm thinking no, but not sure. Yet I know only the Austrian situation, but I think it is very similar in other countries: If the owner says you are allowed to use the samples for whatever you want, clearly, or accidently by an awkward phrase in his license, they are free. If not, not. If there is no license of any sort, the samples are not free. Just like with your car: you don't need a sticker "This car must not be stolen!" (it gets stolen anyway, like the samples... :-) We differentiate between the "right on the original" and the "right of use". If you compose music, these state cannnot be changed - you are the composer forever. So the "right on the original" cannot be sold or transferred. But you can transfer the usage rights (which we understand as "copyright" in Austria). You say what others are allowed to do with your creation and they are bound to that. Peter Ostry

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Pete Thomas <logic@p...> wrote: > For example, look at the Linplug download page: > > "The Demos are fully functional. The only restriction that applies to > demo versions is that they emit a noise about once every minute." > This is in fact exactly what I was looking at - LinPlug Albino etc. Oh well, instead of spending time putting various licenses under a microscope to find possible loopholes, I guess it's easier to just follow my conscience - and it says 'no' pretty clearly! After all there are tons of free samples out there also. Thanks though, Best regards, Henrik Buus Jensen P4 2.4, Logic Gold 5.5.1 / EXS24 (a powerful and stable setup btw)