kirbyko3@... wrote: >>Does anyone know the difference(s) between the Emperor and the >>Bösendorfer 290? They're both Bösendorfers and both by Michiel Post, so >>how different can they be? > > They're reallllllly different! The Emperor is really in-your-face; sort of > a zingy and bright sound with a bass that's got a nice thickness & edge to it. > The PMI 290 is still my most-used piano sound tho -- it's a little more > tame and has different variations on the tone & different presets you can use - > dark piano, bright piano, etc. Emperor would be great for straight > classical recordings in a hall setting, and while the PMI 290 would be equally as > good, it's a little more versatile if you wanted to use it for film-ish sounds, > pop, or if you wanted a nice solo piano in that George Winston sort of way. If > you're doing a big orchestral mix, the Emperor would be the one to use - it > definitely sticks out more. Thanks Kerry. :-) Already got the PMI290, so I didn't want to get the Emperor if it was virtually the same. $80 is a fantasic price, but it's still $80, ya know?

Hi y'all, Just upgraded to LP7. Noticed that EXS instruments, other than default ones are no longer recognized. I'm talkin' about entire libraries of 3rd party EXS instruments including the 'Extreme Hip Hop' library. Anyone know a fix for this situation? Thanx Boe

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "phunktek2001" <phunktek@e...> wrote: > > Hi y'all, > > Just upgraded to LP7. Noticed that EXS instruments, other than default ones are no longer > recognized. I'm talkin' about entire libraries of 3rd party EXS instruments including the > 'Extreme Hip Hop' library. Anyone know a fix for this situation? The folder location is different, they are no longer in the emagic application folder, they must be in: Library/Application Support/Logic/Sampler Instruments. You will find the one with the default installed instruments ther, just pop your custom or 3rd party ones in there with them. Or you can have an alias called Sampler Instruments in the Logic Folder pointing to a folder anywhere on your drive. Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk (Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments/Samples)

Hi.I just saved enough $ to get an Emac.So I went from Os9 to OS10 panther.I then did the upgrade via the emagic site for 6.3 and can't find the EX.I have the old disc form logic5 but it wants to install in os9.Is there something I am missing or a web page to go and get my EX so it will be in OS10..Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated..Thanx TMT

Hi I mean EXS24P..TMT

On Nov 27, 2004, at 6:29 AM, taylormorgantaylor wrote: > >   Hi I mean EXS24P..TMT It is an "audio unit" format plugin in OS X. And as such, must be installed in the "component" sub folder of your plugin folder found in either your user or system Library folder. The exact path is: Library -> audio -> plug-ins -> components. You have to of course make sure that you have obtained the audio unit format of the EXSP 24 to do this. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions

Holy crap!!! I took out the OMS extension and voila, everything's back to work... Now I remember it started the day I bought my Logic Control and configured it in both Logic and OMS for Pro Tools. What could have happened?!! Now how can I use OMS in addition to Logic's own driver to use non-emagic instruments the way I used it before? Still too many questions. Best to all, Andy --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Andy Hardwake <andyhardwake@m...> wrote: > Hi guys, > > This just happened for the first time here. I've added some libraries > to my EXS folder and now Logic doesn't let me click on the instrument > selector crashing in a moment... I thought it was a broken alias (my > sampler instruments folder is placed with Logic 6.4.3 folder and I > really hate to copy it to Logic 9). Surprisingly, Logic X works fine. > Is there different instrument limits for EXS 9 and X or can there be > another kind of problem? Thanks in advance. > > Logic 6.4.3 9/X, 3 HDs worth of samples, etc., etc. > > Best, > > Andy

Hi and thanks..I see no instance in either of the 2 library pathes you mentioned and I have no idea about how to go about the last option you mentioned.How would I get the audio unit item you mentioned? Thanks..TMT

I just upgraded my computer to a to a G4/1ghz machine, 1.3 gb ram. OS X 10.3.x I currently own Logic Platinum 4.8 and EXS24, but I was thinking about upgrading to the current version of Logic 7 now. Logic Express seems to be in my budget but I notice it comes with the EXSP24 and not the EXS24....what's the difference between the 2 samplers? Will I still be able to create my own sample libraries? I checked the apple site and they really don't detail the differences between both applications.

Hi Staphanie, AFAIC the both are - playingwise identical. allthough - You can't edit in the EXSP24... that means that You cant change an existing sample program to fit Your needs. I'm not sure if You can use the convert function either. That would mean that You had to use a external convertion program to fix that. ( more money ) If You really want to build up a big library - then there is no way around the "hardware-formats" - ( AKAI, EMU, (giga)... etc ) allthough, this group seems to have a certain urge to convert everything to EXS ( which is nice ), so maybe that won't be nessecary... ; ) Raphael On Nov 29, 2004, at 5:15, Stephanie wrote: > > > > I just upgraded my computer to a to a G4/1ghz machine, 1.3 gb ram. OS > X 10.3.x > > I currently own Logic Platinum 4.8 and EXS24, but I was thinking about > upgrading to the > current version of Logic 7 now. Logic Express seems to be in my budget > but I notice it > comes with the EXSP24 and not the EXS24....what's the difference > between the 2 samplers? > Will I still be able to create my own sample libraries? I checked the > apple site and they > really don't detail the differences between both applications. > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Raphael Vang freelance trombonist www.raphael-vang.de

Hello, I read all the manual but I haven't seen a function importing WAV or AIFF file in EXS format so I can see it in the EXS instruments, near my akai and exs samples. Is there a function or a shareware that permit this operation? Thanks Paulista

On Nov 29, 2004, at 7:16 AM, microsxbox wrote: > > I read all the manual but I haven't seen a function importing WAV or > AIFF file in EXS format > so I can see it in the EXS instruments, near my akai and exs samples. > > Is there a function or a shareware that permit this operation? > Hi Paulista, You are sort of asking the wrong question. Wav and Aiff are audio file format. EXS refers to a soft sampler instrument format. The EXS format _reads_ Aiff and Wav files, it doesn't convert them. What you need to do is go into the EXS editor window, create a new instrument, create a new zone, or zones; and then import the Aiff or Wav files into those zones. Then save it and you'll have an EXS instrument that triggers those Wav and Aiff files. Depending on what you want to do, you might find the import multiple zones command useful. It allows you to bring in a batch of audio files in one shot with a choice of how you want them mapped. Hope this helps...... -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions

Thanks anserwing my question. I understand your explanation, but I would to have all my samples (like Akai, Exs, sf2, aiff, etc.) in organized directory to recall its in my database order, like akai end exs samples permit to do in exs24 instrument window. (Sample Instruments folder) I know I can organize wave or aiff files assigning in many zones, but I hope there is another function to do this operation fastly. (like importing akai cd rom: I see samples in exs window (preset in Sample Instruments folder)) Thanks Paul

On Nov 29, 2004, at 8:30 AM, microsxbox wrote: > I understand your explanation, but I would to have all my samples > (like Akai, Exs, sf2, aiff, > etc.) in organized directory to recall its in my database order, like > akai end exs samples > permit to do in exs24 instrument window. Not sure if I'm understanding, but you can place your Aiff and Wav files anywhere you want on your drives in any folder. The EXS will find them. > I know I can organize wave or aiff files assigning in many zones, but > I hope there is > another function to do this operation fastly. (like importing akai cd > rom: No, there's no way to quickly do this like when converting an Akai CD Rom. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions

> Not sure if I'm understanding, but you can place your Aiff and Wav > files anywhere you want on your drives in any folder. The EXS will find > them. > Yes, EXS find aiff files but not properly in the same thing like AKAI. I can choose Akai samples pressing mouse on exs interface like a virtual hardware. Is it correct? So I can select aiff instruments only if I first program them in Instrument Editor ... I have to spend too much time! Thanks P.S. do you know a software called "exs manager" ? This software could be solution or not? Paolo

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Bill Canty <Bill@C...> wrote: > Does anyone know the difference(s) between the Emperor and the > Bösendorfer 290? They're both Bösendorfers and both by Michiel Post, so > how different can they be? I've now got them both, side to side. The 290 has a more brittle top with less undamped sustain ringing. The middle is warmer but less focussed. The low end of the 290 is also warmer, not that the Emperor low end is brighter overall, the Emperor has more low and more high. It still has a lovely bass sound but seems to have more brightness in with it at the same time if I'm making myself clear. Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk (Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments)

From: "Stephanie" <foxglove9@...> >I currently own Logic Platinum 4.8 and EXS24, but I was thinking >about upgrading to the >current version of Logic 7 now. Logic Express seems to be in my budget It costs $300 to upgrade from Platinum to Pro, doesn't it? I don't even think there's an upgrade from Platinum to Express, but if there were I sure wouldn't bother. Pro has a staggering quantity of features, including some really interesting synthesizers, the EVP88 electric piano, and lots of really good plug-ins. And I mean really good plug-ins, like a linear phase eq, a convolution reverb, a pitch corrector, etc. EXS24 lets you edit, and there have been conflicting reports over whether EXSP has disk-streaming. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

On 29 Nov 2004, at 01:05, Stephanie wrote: > > I just upgraded my computer to a to a G4/1ghz machine, 1.3 gb ram. OS > X 10.3.x > > I currently own Logic Platinum 4.8 and EXS24, but I was thinking about > upgrading to the > current version of Logic 7 now. Logic Express seems to be in my budget > but I notice it > comes with the EXSP24 and not the EXS24....what's the difference > between the 2 samplers? > Will I still be able to create my own sample libraries? I checked the > apple site and they > really don't detail the differences between both applications. EXSP24 in LE7 comes with a lot of great sounds/patches. I believe it it playback only. There's no editor. You probably want to know if you can port over your existing EXS24 library. Would there be differences in file structure? Maybe someone else can answer. Good luck. Michael Michael McKenzie Music Services http://homepage.mac.com/michaelmckenzie/Menu3.html

No difference in reading, between EXS24 and EXSP24. the "P" stands for "player" - it's exactly the same engine - but no edit functions implemented. the EXSP24 reads all the files that the EXS24 reads Raphael On Nov 29, 2004, at 19:21, Michael McKenzie wrote: > > > On 29 Nov 2004, at 01:05, Stephanie wrote: > >> >> I just upgraded my computer to a to a G4/1ghz machine, 1.3 gb ram. OS >> X 10.3.x >> >> I currently own Logic Platinum 4.8 and EXS24, but I was thinking about >> upgrading to the >> current version of Logic 7 now. Logic Express seems to be in my budget >> but I notice it >> comes with the EXSP24 and not the EXS24....what's the difference >> between the 2 samplers? >> Will I still be able to create my own sample libraries? I checked the >> apple site and they >> really don't detail the differences between both applications. > > > EXSP24 in LE7 comes with a lot of great sounds/patches. I believe it it > playback only. There's no editor. You probably want to know if you can > port over your > existing EXS24 library. Would there be differences in file structure? > Maybe someone else can answer. > Good luck. > > Michael > > Michael McKenzie Music Services > http://homepage.mac.com/michaelmckenzie/Menu3.html > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Raphael Vang freelance trombonist www.raphael-vang.de

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie" <foxglove9@n...> wrote: > > > I just upgraded my computer to a to a G4/1ghz machine, 1.3 gb ram. OS X 10.3.x > > I currently own Logic Platinum 4.8 and EXS24, but I was thinking about upgrading to the > current version of Logic 7 now. Logic Express seems to be in my budget but I notice it > comes with the EXSP24 and not the EXS24....what's the difference between the 2 samplers? > Will I still be able to create my own sample libraries? I checked the apple site and they > really don't detail the differences between both applications. I think Logic Plat, even 4.8, to express is probably a downgrade not an upgrade Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk (Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments)

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Pete Thomas" <pt@p...> wrote: > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "phunktek2001" <phunktek@e...> wrote: > > > > Hi y'all, > > > > Just upgraded to LP7. Noticed that EXS instruments, other than > default ones are no longer > > recognized. I'm talkin' about entire libraries of 3rd party EXS > instruments including the > > 'Extreme Hip Hop' library. Anyone know a fix for this situation? > > The folder location is different, they are no longer in the emagic > application folder, they must be in: > Library/Application Support/Logic/Sampler Instruments. > Or you can have an alias called Sampler Instruments in the Logic > Folder pointing to a folder anywhere on your drive. > > Indeed that was it, precisely. > Thank you. > Boe > (Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments/Samples)

Thanks everyone for the tips. Last I checked, versions of Logic 4.x or lower do not qualify for the $300 upgrade, so it looks like I'd have to shell out a lot more for pro, because editability in the EXS sampler is important for me. Then who even knows if Logic 7 will be stable on my 1ghz G4. We'll see.. -stephanie --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Pete Thomas" <pt@p...> wrote: > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie" <foxglove9@n...> wrote: > > > > > > I just upgraded my computer to a to a G4/1ghz machine, 1.3 gb ram. > OS X 10.3.x > > > > I currently own Logic Platinum 4.8 and EXS24, but I was thinking > about upgrading to the > > current version of Logic 7 now. Logic Express seems to be in my > budget but I notice it > > comes with the EXSP24 and not the EXS24....what's the difference > between the 2 samplers? > > Will I still be able to create my own sample libraries? I checked > the apple site and they > > really don't detail the differences between both applications. > > I think Logic Plat, even 4.8, to express is probably a downgrade not > an upgrade > > Pete Thomas > www.petethomas.co.uk > (Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments)

I installed LP7 a few days ago. It's working fine but now I'd like to relocate the EXS samples to another (non boot) drive. After installing 7 directly over the top of 6.4.1 all I see in the Applications folder is icons for the LP7 and Waveburner apps themselves and the Logic 6 Series folder that was there before. I presume this means the EXS samples from LP7 have gone in to the Logic 6 Series folder? How could I check? Is there a sample that's unique to 7? I could move them in the obvious way but what do I need to do to ensure the EXS finds them? thanks in advance Andris

On 30/11/2004, at 3:42 PM, Stephanie wrote: > Then who even knows if Logic 7 will be stable on my 1ghz G4. We'll > see.. I run a dual 1.25 GHz G4 quite successfully Stephanie so you shouldn't have a problem, depending on exactly what you do of course. Andris

You CAN actually edit EXS patches without having to own the EXS or LogicPro. The EXS editor is part of Logic and will work without the full version being present as well. The only problem here is that you WON'T be able to listen to your edits in realtime. So, you'd have to open the editor, do whatever you want, save the patch and reload it into the EXSP. From what it seems, this could become a time consuming process on, say, chirurgical edits such as finetunings, for setting up rather basic zone/group mappings it could however work fine. - Sascha