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From: Daniel Bal <dbdaniel4u@...>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 at 4:14:32 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Error Code 701
Message #12701
This is a reply to #12699.
Ned, Any idea what could have caused this error ?? Daniël --- Ned Bouhalassa <ned@...> wrote: > Restart your computer and the 828. > > Ned > > On Sep 10, 2004, at 13:55, dbdaniel4u wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > After starting up Logic I get a alert saying > 'Error code 701 was > > returned b> > y the Core Audio > > driver'. > > Any solutions ? > > > > Thnx, > > Daniël > > > > Logic 6.4.2 > > Motu 828 > > G4dual1Ghz > > > > > > > > > ____ http://nedfx.com __/_/ > N e d B o u h a l a s s a > /˜/˜˜˜˜˜˜ ned@... ˜˜˜˜ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion > Toolbar. > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/bDIolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email > exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email > exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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From: Ned Bouhalassa <ned@...>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 at 4:58:30 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Error Code 701
Message #12702
This is a reply to #12701.
My _guess_ is that the interface and Logic lose contact with each other. But it's just a guess! ;-) Ned On Sep 10, 2004, at 17:14, Daniel Bal wrote: > Ned, > > Any idea what could have caused this error ?? > > Daniël > ____ http://nedfx.com __/_/ N e d B o u h a l a s s a /˜/˜˜˜˜˜˜ ned@... ˜˜˜˜
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From: Michael Scheurer <lists@...>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 at 5:24:09 PM
Subject: Re: HollowSun-exs.zip
Message #12703
This is a reply to #12695.
On 10/9/04 7:19 AM, "Michael Scheurer" <lists@...> wrote: > Just a Yahoo glitch, give it a couple of hours and try again... Hi all, I've replaced the file, it should work now, at least it does for me... michael
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From: Daniel Bal <dbdaniel4u@...>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 at 7:41:47 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Error Code 701
Message #12704
This is a reply to #12702.
Thanks Ned ! --- Ned Bouhalassa <ned@...> wrote: > My _guess_ is that the interface and Logic lose > contact with each > other. But it's just a guess! ;-) > > Ned > > On Sep 10, 2004, at 17:14, Daniel Bal wrote: > > > Ned, > > > > Any idea what could have caused this error ?? > > > > Daniël > > > > > > ____ http://nedfx.com __/_/ > N e d B o u h a l a s s a > /˜/˜˜˜˜˜˜ ned@... ˜˜˜˜ > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion > Toolbar. > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/bDIolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email > exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email > exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@...>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 at 8:22:42 PM
Subject: [EXS] Disappointing performance with new system
Message #12705
This is a reply to #12649.
Hi all. I recently got a G5 2.0 with 5.5 GB of RAM to really put my big libraries to use, but have so far been amazingly underwhelmed by the performance. A single PMI 290 Bosendorfer piano patch under normal use gives me fairly frequent data underruns (in the virtual memory windowy) with their resultant crackle. VSL Opus 1 layered string patches choke when using modwheel crossfading. I can't imagine what havoc trying to do any heavy orchestration would wreak, but I won't even try until I have more confidence in the system. Disk streaming is on, and I have the libraries spread between a second SATA drive and a FW800 drive, so drive throughput couldn't possibly yet be at issue. And I'm using no plugins. So far, other than being able to load more instruments because of the greater RAM, the system is only marginally better than the G4 it replaced. Please tell me I didn't blow four grand here! I know others are getting fabulous things out of their G5's. What could possibly cause this poor performance? Did I just buy a lemon? Sean McCoy Oregon Sound Recording
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 at 4:07:07 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Disappointing performance with new system
Message #12706
This is a reply to #12705.
Sean McCoy wrote: > So far, other than being able to load more instruments because of the > greater RAM, the system is only marginally better than the G4 it replaced. > Please tell me I didn't blow four grand here! I know others are getting > fabulous things out of their G5's. What could possibly cause this poor > performance? Did I just buy a lemon? Not a Mac expert here, but: Did you try to run the libraries from one external drive only (preferably the FW one I'd say)? Did you test some different virtual memory settings yet? One thing seems to be for sure: LogicPro's audio performance is REALLY poor (to even put it mildly, and it's NOT related to OSX but solely up to Emagic to fix this as other apps don't perform even halfway as bad), so you may better be off loading as much as possible into your RAM, rather than streaming things (that's why I'd recommend to set the virtual memory thing on the EXS as low as possible - try to set disk drive speed to "slow" and harddisk recording activity to "extensive", no matter whether that's true or not). Wouldn't happen to know if EXS performance is affected by the generally lousy audio performance of LogicPro, but it might be worth a shot. - Sascha
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@...>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 at 10:07:10 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Disappointing performance with new system
Message #12707
This is a reply to #12706.
At 02:07 AM 09/12/2004, Sascha wrote: >Not a Mac expert here, but: >Did you try to run the libraries from one external drive only (preferably >the FW one I'd say)? I've got my libraries spread over two drives: a second internal SATA and an external FW800. So far I've been using libraries mostly on the SATA drive, but since this drive actually tests slower than the FW800 drive (surprising) I think I'll try moving everything to that drive. There have been claims on the VSL list that using multiple drives is ineffective with Logic Pro. >Did you test some different virtual memory settings yet? > >One thing seems to be for sure: LogicPro's audio performance is REALLY poor >(to even put it mildly, and it's NOT related to OSX but solely up to Emagic >to fix this as other apps don't perform even halfway as bad), so you may >better be off loading as much as possible into your RAM, rather than >streaming things (that's why I'd recommend to set the virtual memory thing >on the EXS as low as possible - try to set disk drive speed to "slow" and >harddisk recording activity to "extensive", no matter whether that's true or >not). >Wouldn't happen to know if EXS performance is affected by the generally >lousy audio performance of LogicPro, but it might be worth a shot. I think you're right, Sascha. Last night I changed the setting to "slow" and had no glitches after that. This stinks, of course, because it places severe limitations on how many instruments can be loaded. But if Logic Pro's streaming is faulty, it may be the only workaround for now. Is anybody here using large instruments from SATA or FW drives with the "fast" settings without problems?
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From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 at 1:13:43 PM
Subject: Re: Disappointing performance with new system
Message #12708
From: Sean McCoy <osr@...> >Hi all. I recently got a G5 2.0 with 5.5 GB of RAM to really put my big >libraries to use, but have so far been amazingly underwhelmed by the >performance. In addition to what Sascha suggested, are you absolutely sure you have EXS virtual memory (disk streaming) turned on? It's easy to just think you do - I know from previous personal embarrassments! Also, I'd make sure you have the latest version of the Bosendorfer NI player. Older versions of NI's sampler family had big problems on Macs. They've since sorted them out, but it might be worth taking that VI out of your system to see whether it's the culprit. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@...>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 at 4:15:37 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Disappointing performance with new system
Message #12709
This is a reply to #12708.
At 11:13 AM 09/12/2004, Nick wrote: >In addition to what Sascha suggested, are you absolutely sure you >have EXS virtual memory (disk streaming) turned on? It's easy to just >think you do - I know from previous personal embarrassments! >Also, I'd make sure you have the latest version of the Bosendorfer NI >player. Thanks, Nick, but yes, VM is definitely on. And I'm using the PMI Bose as an EXS instrument (converted from Giga originally), not the NI player. I've had problems with other large instruments besides the piano, so I think it's a system problem---and I'm leaning toward believing it is just poor disk reading. Are you getting good performance with your drive settings at something other than "slow?" Sean
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From: Jungsoo Jo <jo00508@...>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 at 7:45:51 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Disappointing performance with new system
Message #12710
Sep 12, 2004, 11:04 PM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com ÀÛ¼º: > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:22:42 -0700 > From: Sean McCoy <osr@...> > Subject: Disappointing performance with new system > > Hi all. I recently got a G5 2.0 with 5.5 GB of RAM to really put my big > libraries to use, but have so far been amazingly underwhelmed by the > performance. Unfortunately, Logic can access up to 2 Gigabyte of RAM under OSX. Since Plug-ins are not regarded as seperate applications, they share memories with Logic. Therefore, 2G Ram is max Logic and plug-ins can utilize at the same time.
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 at 9:00:45 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Disappointing performance with new system
Message #12711
This is a reply to #12707.
Sean McCoy wrote: > But if Logic > Pro's streaming is faulty, it may be the only workaround for now. The "streaming" feature of the EXS is brilliant in general (and I think it's not that bad under OSX either), it's LogicPro that will somewhat spoil disk performance - well, of course these two things seem to go hand in hand, so the bad audio performance of LogicPro might just affect any disk accessing sampler's efficiency as well. Seriously, from some tests with LogicPro and Cubase SX, it seems as if Emagic has gotten something essentially wrong in their Logic code. Getting even close to the maximum of 128 tracks in Logic (no matter whether they're only mono/16bit) , using the internal disk of the G5s I have recently been working with seems completely impossible, while it doesn't seem to be a deal with SX at all. I could perhaps do an exact test the next days. Pretty much dissapointing. Regards, Sascha
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From: "markevcon" <markevcon@...>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 at 7:54:48 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Disappointing performance with new system
Message #12712
This is a reply to #12711.
> > But if LogicPro's streaming is faulty, it may be the only workaround for > > now. > > The "streaming" feature of the EXS is brilliant in general (and I think it's > not that bad under OSX either), it's LogicPro that will somewhat spoil disk > performance - well, of course these two things seem to go hand in hand, so > the bad audio performance of LogicPro might just affect any disk accessing > sampler's efficiency as well. > > Seriously, from some tests with LogicPro and Cubase SX, it seems as if > Emagic has gotten something essentially wrong in their Logic code. > Getting even close to the maximum of 128 tracks in Logic (no matter whether > they're only mono/16bit) , using the internal disk of the G5s I have > recently been working with seems completely impossible, while it doesn't > seem to be a deal with SX at all. I could perhaps do an exact test the next > days. > Pretty much dissapointing. > > Regards, > Sascha Logic is a real piece of work sometimes however, I was able to use my Bosendorfer in a program called Kompakt - it runs as a separate program on it's own, this leaves me breathing room for the VSL Pro! Mark
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From: Andy Hardwake <digitalmechanics@...>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 at 3:58:15 AM
Subject: Assigning plugs to instrument in a drumkit
Message #12713
Hey guys, Guess now's my turn to ask a stupid RTFM question. Please excuse my ignorance (for a decade or so I've been working mostly with my hardware boxes, and used EXS only in addition to those, but now I am in the middle of a session at a different studio, no hardware machines here, only EXS and Kontakt are at hand and need an answer really quickly). Let's say I havve a drumkit and need to assign a plug to each of its instruments separately without splitting the kit to different EXS instances. With Akai I can assign groups to different outs and process them separately. Can I do the same in EXS, I.E. route kick to bus 1, snare to bus 2 and so on? Just gimme a hint where to look and I think I'll guess the rest of the procedure. Thanks a lot for any input. Best, Andy
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From: jonathan snipes <Hershnov@...>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 at 5:00:18 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Assigning plugs to instrument in a drumkit
Message #12714
This is a reply to #12713.
Andy Hardwake wrote: > I.E. route kick to bus 1, > snare to bus 2 and so on? Just gimme a hint where to look and I think > I'll guess the rest of the procedure. Thanks a lot for any input. In the instrument editor, route your groups to the different outputs of the exs (main, 3-4, 5-6, etc etc) then create aux channels in logic, and assign the inputs of the aux channels to the various numbered outputs of the exs ... the instance of the exs will have to be a multi-channel one, obviously ... this is not well documented in the manual (afaik) hope this helps, Jonathan
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From: Andy Hardwake <digitalmechanics@...>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 at 11:43:26 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Assigning plugs to instrument in a drumkit
Message #12715
This is a reply to #12714.
On Sep 17, 2004, at 3:00 AM, jonathan snipes wrote: > In the instrument editor, route your groups to the different outputs of > the exs (main, 3-4, 5-6, etc etc) then create aux channels in logic, > and assign the inputs of the aux channels to the various numbered > outputs of the exs ... > > the instance of the exs will have to be a multi-channel one, obviously Perfect. Thanks a mil, Jonathan. > ... > > this is not well documented in the manual (afaik)x Oh, really? Now I understand why I felt a bit stupid after quickly looking through the manual and not finding any detailed info at all, so that's why I asked. Now I have everything working, thanks again. You guys rock! Best, Andy
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From: "vslb2" <brucem@...>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 at 10:37:53 PM
Subject: GIgaConvert- Insufficient access priviliges result code-5000
Message #12716
While trying to convert a Giga disk to EXS24 I am continually getting the error code -insufficient access priviliges error code-5000- This is on Quantum Leap Rare Instruments and World Winds. Other Giga disks translate very well; Symphony of Voices- no problem. MAC OS 10.3.5. Logic 6.42 What to do????? thanks!
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From: "Mitchell DeFreytas" <hoomuse@...>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 at 6:14:58 PM
Subject: Wandering Fader/Knobs—How do I Fix Settings?
Message #12717
EXS Experts, • While playing back an Audio Instr. track, I tweaked the settings on my sample until I got the setting I wanted. I saved. Played back the track & the sample settings went frenetic. • I reset them to what I wanted at the beginning of the track (I took a snapshot of the settings I liked after my tweaking tests-cmd/shft/3). Played back the track & the settings began wandering again. • I went to EXS/Options/Rename Instrument/Save Instrument As, but no dice. • I then went into the EXS24 Instrument Editor/Edit/Undo History-I'm bad at dice. • It's probably simple. I can't find a solution in the EXS24mkII manual.H E L P ! ! ! ! ! • If there's anyone out there who's run into this problem, I'd really appreciate your help. I just want the tweaked settings to stay fixed, without roving. Thanks, Mitchell
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From: "Sebastian von Bischopink" <mail@...>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 at 9:03:27 AM
Subject: RE: Wandering Fader/Knobs-How do I Fix Settings?
Message #12718
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 Mitchell DeFreytas wrote: >While playing back an Audio Instr. track, I tweaked the settings on my >sample until I got >the setting I wanted. I saved. Played back the track & the sample >settings went frenetic. Hi Mitchell, i think the solution is easier then you think. Have you checked whether you have recorded all your tweaking as automation onto your track? If so, just view and delete the automation. Fixed. Good luck, Seb
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From: Mitchell DeFreytas <hoomuse@...>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 at 12:51:07 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Wandering Fader/Knobs—How do I Fix Settings?
Message #12719
This is a reply to #12717.
--- Mitchell DeFreytas <hoomuse@...> wrote: > • While playing back an Audio Instr. track, I > tweaked the settings on my sample until I got > the setting I wanted. I saved. Played back the > track & the sample settings went frenetic. Hi Seb, thank you very much for the great tip. Best to you, Mitchell ============================================
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From: yasuyoshik@...
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 at 10:18:12 PM
Subject: Virtual Inst on Logic Pro (unwanted sustains on keys)
Message #12720
hello, I jus upgraded my logic 5 to logic 6. Now, I am having a problems with logic pro. On esx, evp.... all the v-synth u can think of on my pro 6 has been acting kinda funny. Some keys have longer sustains than others. On some sounds, it would not stop at all. Funny thing is when i play evp, only C# and F has longer sustain. If i picked different rodes on EVP, only F# and D has sustain. It is similer to other synth.. as soon as i picked different sounds, different keys has unwanted sustains. Dose anyone exprience probs like this?
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From: Mitchell DeFreytas <hoomuse@...>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 at 11:29:04 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Virtual Inst on Logic Pro (unwanted sustains on keys)
Message #12721
This is a reply to #12720.
Yasu, there a couple of things you can do. • Hit the 'Panic'. This is in the far upper right corner of your Transport window, where you will see written "No In/No Out". When you press this it should turn the stuck notes off. If not the first time do it again. • You can also go into your Event window and scroll down to the problem bars/beats. There will most likely be a Control message 64—sustain. Control 64 will have either a 0 (zero) setting at Value for 'Off', and 127 for 'On'. You can delete or insert them where you want them. • If you use the Event Window, check each track individually to find the culprit, unless you already know. Hope it helps, Mitchell +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: Charles Lucy <lucy@...>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 at 8:59:57 PM
Subject: Looking for EXS bagpipe samples
Message #12722
Does anyone know of EXS bagpipe samples, which won't cost me an arm and a leg? It's for the music for the play "On The Razzle" for my local church's amateur dramatics society, so zero budget. Charles Lucy - lucy@... (LucyScaleDevelopments) ------------ Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning ------- for information on LucyTuning go to: http://www.harmonics.com/lucy/ for LucyTuned Lullabies go to http://www.lucytune.com http://www.lucytune.co.uk or http://www.lullabies.co.uk
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From: yasuyoshik@...
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 at 12:24:14 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Virtual Inst on Logic Pro (unwanted sustains on keys)
Message #12723
This is a reply to #12721.
Mitchell DeFreytas <hoomuse@y...> wrote: > Yasu, there a couple of things you can do. > > Hit the 'Panic'. This is in the far upper right > corner of your Transport window, where you will see > written "No In/No Out". When you press this it should > turn the stuck notes off. If not the first time do it > again. > > You can also go into your Event window and scroll > down to the problem bars/beats. There will most > likely be a Control message 64—sustain. Control 64 > will have either a 0 (zero) setting at Value for > 'Off', and 127 for 'On'. You can delete or insert > them where you want them. > > If you use the Event Window, check each track > individually to find the culprit, unless you already > know. thanx for ur tip, Although it would solve the problems, it would not be great way to play keys when one of the key stcuks. Its very distructing when I or my clients play the keys. See, if I play C minor, E flats played longer or just stuck.... It dose not work for me since I do not edit much at either matrix or midi event. I'd rather play keys 'live'. I have no idea some of the keys stuck longer than others. It is not my midi controller. Itcould be OMS (yes i am using OS9) since my sound cards only supports OS9 still. I have no idea. If anyone who have experienced same kind of problems, please post here. thanks Y
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 at 1:57:29 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Looking for EXS bagpipe samples
Message #12724
This is a reply to #12722.
Hammersound has a few free bagpipe soundfonts here: http://www.hammersound.net/cgi-bin/soundlink.pl?action=view_category&cat egory=Ethnic&ListStart=0&ListLength I'm not sure how good they are, the size is rather small. - Sascha
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From: james page <jimmymio@...>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 at 2:23:39 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Virtual Inst on Logic Pro (unwanted sustains on keys)
Message #12725
This is a reply to #12723.
> Mitchell DeFreytas <hoomuse@y...> wrote: > > > Yasu, there a couple of things you can do. > > > > Hit the 'Panic'. This is in the far upper right > > corner of your Transport window, where you will > see > > written "No In/No Out". When you press this it > should > > turn the stuck notes off. If not the first time > do it > > again. > > > > You can also go into your Event window and > scroll > > down to the problem bars/beats. There will most > > likely be a Control message 64—sustain. Control > 64 > > will have either a 0 (zero) setting at Value for > > 'Off', and 127 for 'On'. You can delete or insert > > them where you want them. > > > > If you use the Event Window, check each track > > individually to find the culprit, unless you > already > > know. > > thanx for ur tip, > > Although it would solve the problems, it would not > be great way to play keys when > one of the key stcuks. Its very distructing when I > or my clients play the keys. See, if I > play C minor, E flats played longer or just > stuck.... It dose not work for me since I do > not edit much at either matrix or midi event. I'd > rather play keys 'live'. I have no idea > some of the keys stuck longer than others. It is not > my midi controller. It could be > OMS (yes i am using OS9) since my sound cards only > supports OS9 still. I have no > idea. If anyone who have experienced same kind of > problems, please post here. > > > thanks > > Y Sure, I experience this problem often when punching in. It's not a Logic issue, it will happen with any sequencer if you use the sustain pedal. The problem is that you send a sustain" on" message and then punch and erase the sustain "off" message. The only remedy I know is the one posted above regarding editing out the controller messages. But it can be a real pain. JP > > >
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