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Over the last few years I have compiled more than 200 LucyTuned .exs
files.
Some of these are for freely available samples; others are
modifications for samples which I have bought e.g. EXS Xtreme. Wizoo
etc.
You can find the files from the "279 unique LucyTuned .exs files for
many popular samples including some Wizoo, some Logic EXS, and others
(.sit) (686KB)" link from :
http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboard/pitch_bend.html
It is about 2/3rds of the way down the webpage.
I have not included the samples because:
1) I do not own the rights to the samples.
2) Many users will already have these particular samples on their
systems.
Even if you are yet to be familiar with LucyTuning, I suggest that you
download them, and discover how they change the tonality of your
samples.
Retuning your existing samples could give them a whole new life for you.
Just trash the other .exs files for which your system fails to find the
necessary samples.
My motive?
To encourage more musicians to LucyTune their music, and explore the
potential for their own productions.
Charles Lucy - lucy@... (LucyScaleDevelopments)
------------ Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -------
for information on LucyTuning go to: http://www.harmonics.com/lucy/
for LucyTuned Lullabies go to http://www.lucytune.com
http://www.lucytune.co.uk or http://www.lullabies.co.uk
When I started with Logic two years ago I had samples and an EXS
instrument named "Stero Strings". This year I lost all samples and
instruments and got a new factory sound CD from Emagic. Now I don't
have Stereo Strings.
Very strange: I could find EXS intrument lists in the internet, just
like the list which comes with the sampler (those with the suggested
effect settings). On some of them are Stereo Strings and on some not.
My old sheet has them listed but not the new one.
Emagic did not answer my question about that. Does anyone know how I
can get the Stereo Strings back?
Thanks in advance,
Peter Ostry
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/exs/DeepBellPad.zip
Two variations. Check with filter on/off.
Have a nice day,
Sascha
on one very special day, Sascha Franck at S.Franck@... wrote:
> http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/exs/DeepBellPad.zip
> Two variations. Check with filter on/off.
Very nice. I like playing with the envelope 1 parameters with the filter on.
I especially like it with a nice slow release.
Nice to "virtually" see you around Sascha; it's been a while!
--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
Glad it's of some use for you, Eli.
> Nice to "virtually" see you around Sascha; it's been a while!
Well, yeah, it's been. Been busy and there's still no Mac for me yet, so I
decided to keep rather quiet (I am still using Logic almost exclusively,
btw.).
Cheers,
Sascha
Group,
Please tell me that when one deletes an EXS instrument, there _is_ a
way to erase the samples associated with it, at the same time, right?
If so, please explain...
Thanks!
Ned
http://nedfx.com
Ned Bouhalassa
n e d @ n e d f x . c o m
I know there are a few of you out there using Garritan strings in EXS, and
I'm wondering if anyone has figured out how to apply the legato functions
to recorded sequences. With the Maestro Tools environment activated, the
sustain pedal legato works great for live playing, but the sustain pedal
messages get sucked up somewhere and don't make it into the recorded
sequences. In looking at the incredibly complicated Maestro Tools
environment, it does appear that the cables terminate at the Sequencer
Input object, but the pedal messages just don't get through, while notes
and other controller messages get through fine. Manually inserting them
doesn't work either, as it seems the patches are looking for a message
earlier in the signal flow. Any ideas?
Sean McCoy
Oregon Sound Recording
Ned Bouhalassa wrote:
> Please tell me that when one deletes an EXS instrument, there _is_ a
> way to erase the samples associated with it, at the same time, right?
> If so, please explain...
There isn't. Apparently that's because Logic is assuming it's users aren't
clever enough to know what they're doing, so it would just keep the samples
in case they're used in another patch as well.
Oh no, that's no good excuse, I know.
Anyways, a workaround would be to load the instrument you'd like to delete,
open the EXS editor and do a "move audiofiles". I don't know
whether this is
working now, I am still on LAW 5.5.1 and this function NEVER WORKED
(unbelievable but true!) in any 5.x version (I am sorry to say so, but it's
just superlame that they weren't able to fix this, especially since it was
working perfectly in 4.x). Perhaps they got this function back to work in
Logic 6/Pro, then you could just move your samples to a significant folder
and delete the folder after the instrument is deleted.
Btw, another pretty silly thing: One would think that in case you'd want to
delete an instrument, you'd first load it to have a listen. Well, as soon as
you have the instrument loaded you can't delete it anymore, so you need to
unload it and then select it again (either in Finder/Explorer or in the EXS
editor), to delete it. Not exactly too clever either...
Regards,
Sascha
Sascha,
Thanks for confirming what I thought. How stupid, really. The silly
thing is, you could choose to delete the files with the instrument in
the first version of EXS. Too bad they had to dumb-it down...
Ned
On 04-03-30, at 15:34, Sascha Franck wrote:
>
> There isn't. Apparently that's because Logic is assuming it's users
> aren't
> clever enough to know what they're doing, so it would just keep the
> samples
> in case they're used in another patch as well.
> Oh no, that's no good excuse, I know.
http://nedfx.com
Ned Bouhalassa
n e d @ n e d f x . c o m
At 12:10 Uhr -0500 30.03.2004, Ned Bouhalassa wrote:
>Please tell me that when one deletes an EXS instrument, there _is_ a
>way to erase the samples associated with it, at the same time, right?
>If so, please explain...
Do yourself a favor and buy EXS manager... I missed the group buy and
bought it after that, but just running it the first time and not
having the EXS take ages to load an instrument was worth the 80 bucks.
And with that you can move out the instruments you would like to
erase and the have the EXS manager separate the unused from the used
samples.
Very powerful, very convenient and very simple.
Cheers
Hans
Hans,
Thanks for the tip. I just bought it now, and it'll save lots of time,
I'm sure.
Ned
On 04-03-30, at 17:00, Hans Hafner wrote:
> à Do yourself a favor and buy EXS manager...
> http://nedfx.com
Ned Bouhalassa
n e d @ n e d f x . c o m
I'm very pleased to announce the second product to be released by
Redmatica: AutoSampler
Designed to be a creative tool for bridging the gap between high
quality hardware synths and the virtual studio world, AutoSampler is a
standalone software dedicated to the automatic advanced sampling of
midi instruments. Through use of a suited host program as Logic, it's
also possible to sample virtual instruments.
At the end of this process, ready-to-play Exs24 instruments (and
relative samples) are automatically created.
Main features:
- Multisample multivelocity sampling of midi synth patches in an
automated unattended way from any coreaudio audio device. You can set
the number of velocity levels to be sampled, the key range and the key
step to use for sampling (every 1 semitone, every 2 semitones, etc....)
- Multidimensional sampling: you can define up to 2 parameters
controlled by midi cc in the midi synth, to be sampled (for example,
cutoff and lfo modulation). For each combination of values of these
parameters, a full multisample keymap is sampled. On playback of the
generated Exs instrument , the user can define up to 2 controllers
for navigating from his masterkeyboard in realtime between these
keymaps, and play back the corresponding sampled sound set...
- Generates ready-to-play Exs24 instruments. No user action is required.
- Midi layer sampling mode: you can multisample a sound generated by
mixing multiple synths. Each voice has a user definable midi
volume/expression graphic envelope for compositing the final sound.
Useful for creatively designing new sounds.
- Automatic sampling with specific normalization modes, limiter,
truncation, audio overload protection, release time detection, custom
velocity maps
- Can sample whole banks of synth patches
- Imports patch names from SoundDiver (or from normal text files)
- Integrated virtual keyboard and bidimensional virtual controller pad
- Comprehensive log file generation with embedded graphical snapshots
of each sample
- Standalone software for OSX 10.2.6 or later
AutoSampler will be available for purchase from the Redmatica online
shop in May 2004. Price is to be announced
This is my first post here so hello everyone
When selecting a sample for an EXS zone the browser has a 'play'
button but I can't hear anything - the 'play' button actually toggles
between
'play' and 'stop' but no preview
Hope that explains the problem clearly
Any help would be very much appreciated
(Even though as I have been living with this problem for ages and in
a strange way it sort of encourages me to try out sounds I probably
would not use so much otherwise!)
I'm looking for a good library that includes eastern string instruments
such as sitar, tamboura, and koto. Does anyone here know of a good EXS
library (or plug in instrument since that seems to be the trend these
days)???
Thanks,
Matthew
justiceandstrength wrote:
> This is my first post here so hello everyone
Hello!
> When selecting a sample for an EXS zone the browser has a 'play'
> button but I can't hear anything - the 'play' button actually toggles
> between
> 'play' and 'stop' but no preview
Have a look at the audio object using "Track 1" - it needs to be
there (but
Logic should actually tell you so).
Another reason might be that your master fader is all the way down.
I can't imagine anything else.
The weird thing when auditioning samples is that, apart from the master
volume fader, you don't have any other volume control (others than in Sample
Edit which is using the volume of the audio object it's playing through).
Sascha
Howdy,
I have heard and read about the Swar Audio products. They have what you are
looking for. I'm thinking about buying Swar Trax myself. I will post a
review if I do.
Hope this helps.
G.
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Johnson
<musical.matthew@m...>
wrote:
> I'm looking for a good library that includes eastern string instruments
> such as sitar, tamboura, and koto. Does anyone here know of a good EXS
> library (or plug in instrument since that seems to be the trend these
> days)???
>
> Thanks,
> Matthew
Hello everyone, I'm using logic 5.0.1 and I can't get a good
recording without getting popping on the mixes
what should I do
Carlos
"carlosmarks2004" <carlosmarks2004@y...> wrote:
> Hello everyone, I'm using logic 5.0.1 and I can't get a good
> recording without getting popping on the mixes
>
> what should I do
There are three things to do.
1. Tell us more about your system - which OS, soundcard, setting etc.
2. Tell us this on the Logic Users Group. The EXS group is dealing
with the EXS and EXSP samplers
3. Update Logic to 5.5.1, the newest version of Logic 5.x, available
free to all registered users of Logic 5 at http://www.emagic.de
regards
MArk Cahill
On 30.03.2004 20:01, "Sean McCoy" <osr@...> wrote:
> I know there are a few of you out there using Garritan strings in EXS,
and
> I'm wondering if anyone has figured out how to apply the legato
functions
> to recorded sequences. With the Maestro Tools environment activated,
the
> sustain pedal legato works great for live playing, but the sustain
pedal
> messages get sucked up somewhere and don't make it into the recorded
> sequences. In looking at the incredibly complicated Maestro Tools
> environment, it does appear that the cables terminate at the Sequencer
> Input object, but the pedal messages just don't get through, while
notes
> and other controller messages get through fine. Manually inserting them
> doesn't work either, as it seems the patches are looking for a message
> earlier in the signal flow. Any ideas?
Try to turn off the MIDI filter ( somewhere ).
I guess that could be it...
R
Sean McCoy wrote
> I know there are a few of you out there using Garritan strings in EXS,
and
> I'm wondering if anyone has figured out how to apply the legato
functions
> to recorded sequences. With the Maestro Tools environment activated,
the
> sustain pedal legato works great for live playing, but the sustain
pedal
> messages get sucked up somewhere and don't make it into the recorded
> sequences.
The Maestro tools uses the Sustain pedal to switch on the legato mode where
with
the correct instrument loaded with use the correct samples to create the
legato
effect. Once the sequence is recorded you will find additional notes
recorded
several octaves higher (sometimes lower) which trigger a second bank of
samples
to fill the gap between the standard samples. The Sustain pedal simply
switches
the legato mode to the "ON" state and the sustain pedal message do
get digested
in maestro tools never to appear again. If they have successfully triggered
the sample switches they have done their job.
If you load a "LEG" instrument and open the edit window and play -
with the
Maestro Tools active and the SUSTAIN PEDAL down for the whole of the passage
that has to be legato - you can see the switch of samples in the keyboard
display.
Stuart Warren
Sandpiper Music
Cumbria UK
Earlier I Wrote:
> The Maestro tools uses the Sustain pedal to switch on the legato mode
where
with
> the correct instrument loaded with use the correct samples to create
the
legato
> effect.
I should have proof read that - I did a spelling check! - but it should have
been more like this:
The Maestro tools uses the Sustain pedal to switch on the legato mode where,
with the correct instrument loaded the basic notes (samples) of a passage
will
be enhanced with additional notes (samples) to create the legato
effect.
Stuart Warren
Sandpiper Music
Cumbria UK
Andrea,
A question for you about AutoSampler.
How will it handle patches with no decay, like leads? Will it truncate at a
user defined time, or will it try to detect a possible loop point?
Will it do looping and crossfading for decadent patches like pianos? That
would be killer, because, without it, you could probably fill up a 120Gig
hard drive with one or two synths.
For example: A stereo piano sample with a 10 second decay generates a 1.5
megabyte sample. Three velocity layers is 4.5MB. Sample every key (88) and
you end up with nearly 400MB of samples! Sample every third key, and its
down to 132MB, which is still huge. For a synth patch that probably takes
1-2MB in the synth's memory.
So let's say we average out to about 50MB per patch. Of course some will be
much bigger (like drumsets, and .... pianos), but others will be smaller
(like synth leads, etc,). That means, in order for me to sample my Yamaha
MOTIF Rack's entire set of 896 patches, I would need to allocate around 44GB
of memory...
With crossfade looping, you could probably get it down under 10-20MB or so
per patch. Still, even without looping its an excellent idea, and I'll be
first in line!!!
Group buy in the plans? (I swear, every time I try to get my finances
straightened out.....) Existing and very happy EXS Manager customer, btw!
Mark
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At 11:50 AM 03/31/2004, you wrote:
> Sean McCoy wrote
>
> > I know there are a few of you out there using Garritan strings in
EXS, and
> > I'm wondering if anyone has figured out how to apply the legato
functions
> > to recorded sequences. With the Maestro Tools environment
activated, the
> > sustain pedal legato works great for live playing, but the sustain
pedal
> > messages get sucked up somewhere and don't make it into the
recorded
> > sequences.
>
>
>The Maestro tools uses the Sustain pedal to switch on the legato mode
>where with
>the correct instrument loaded with use the correct samples to create the
>legato
>effect. Once the sequence is recorded you will find additional notes
recorded
>several octaves higher (sometimes lower) which trigger a second bank of
>samples
>to fill the gap between the standard samples. The Sustain pedal simply
>switches
>the legato mode to the "ON" state and the sustain pedal
message do get
>digested
>in maestro tools never to appear again. If they have successfully
triggered
>the sample switches they have done their job.
>
>If you load a "LEG" instrument and open the edit window and
play - with the
>Maestro Tools active and the SUSTAIN PEDAL down for the whole of the
passage
>that has to be legato - you can see the switch of samples in the
keyboard
>display.
>
>Stuart Warren
>Sandpiper Music
>Cumbria UK
Stuart-
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This actually explains a lot about how
Maestro Tools works in general. I was worried about the fact that when
legato mode is active, everything Logic receives becomes mono. Now it's
clear that Maestro Tools affects what is recorded and can be turned off for
playback. How I could have missed the extra samples recorded in the
sequence is fairly embarrassing, but unfortunately not the first time I've
missed something as obvious. Thanks again.
Sean McCoy
Oregon Sound Recording
On Mar 31, 2004, at 10:52 PM, Mark Jones wrote:
> Andrea,
>
> A question for you about AutoSampler.
>
> How will it handle patches with no decay, like leads? Will it truncate
> at a
> user defined time, or will it try to detect a possible loop point?
Hi Mark,
no looping is done on the sampled waveforms, and there is a very strong
reason for this which will be evident at the proper time.
You can specify the length of the sustain phase of the sampled note.
The sound is then still sampled until it decays back to silence.
You can also specify as an option if you want to keep all the tail, or
cut it at a certain volume level.
>
> Will it do looping and crossfading for decadent patches like pianos?
> That
> would be killer, because, without it, you could probably fill up a
> 120Gig
> hard drive with one or two synths.
> For example: A stereo piano sample with a 10 second decay generates a
> 1.5
> megabyte sample. Three velocity layers is 4.5MB. Sample every key (88)
> and
> you end up with nearly 400MB of samples! Sample every third key, and
> its
> down to 132MB, which is still huge. For a synth patch that probably
> takes
> 1-2MB in the synth's memory.
The 1-2 MB are the raw samples, for sure not a whole new set for each
key, and for sure not the processed complete stereo sound.
Our tests show that you can obtain convincing instruments with
reasonably sized sets. For many situations, the sample set is much
smaller
With this method you will never obtain the storage efficiency of the
real synth(s), but that's not the point AutoSampler is about.
>
> So let's say we average out to about 50MB per patch. Of course some
> will be
> much bigger (like drumsets, and .... pianos), but others will be
> smaller
> (like synth leads, etc,). That means, in order for me to sample my
> Yamaha
> MOTIF Rack's entire set of 896 patches, I would need to allocate
> around 44GB
> of memory...
I'm not sure it's legal to sample straight patches out of your motif
rack. The point is to create new high quality sounds for Exs24 in a
quick, simple way. The hypothetical 44GB for the around 900 high
quality sounds you are talking about, would be 44GB of disk space,
certainly not of ram memory.
>
> With crossfade looping, you could probably get it down under 10-20MB
> or so
> per patch. Still, even without looping its an excellent idea, and I'll
> be
> first in line!!!
There will be some downloadable demo instruments next week, for
everyone to evaluate the results, as soon as i come back from
musikmesse.
The full manual will also be available as a free download, after
release.
> Existing and very happy EXS Manager customer, btw!
Always glad to hear this Mark.
Thank you for your interest in AutoSampler
Andrea at Redmatica
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Sean McCoy <osr@j...> wrote:
>
> Stuart-
>
> Thank you, thank you, thank you! This actually explains a lot about
how
> Maestro Tools works in general.
I am currently working my way through GOS and carrying out the tasks
listed below.
If anyone thinks I have got my ideas wrong than please write
correcting my
assumptions.
1. Removing WARM instruments. These can simply be reproduced by using
a channel eq.
2. Renaming Instruments to create shorter names as there is a limit
in EXS and excessively long names get their ends turned to BinHex?
3. Not sure about this one since I'm now only using OSX and if I
revert to OS9 (other than by running classic) some of my drives which
contain files
with long names may suffer the same fate if I start in OS9 and open a
folder. Oh the
point here is that I think in OS9 (or could it earlier versions of
Logic) the conversion
of gig files results in sets of instrument which start with their
name whereas now I am
getting numbered instruments from 00 onwards. This means that where
long names
aretruncated their is less confusion where the names after the number
appear to be
thesame. This is particually useful as I am trashing all instruments
which end ALT 88
and just relying on the ALT version but you have to load then to
check which is which.
4. I am setting all EXP instruments correctly so they switch samples
from the mod wheel and grouping them in a separate sub folder
5. After I have completed this rather mamoth task I will backup all
GOS instruments to DVD.
6. If anyone thinks it would be useful to have a copy of these edited
instruments write to me for further details. Note sample will need
re-referencing in
EXS manager.
Stuart Warren
Sandpiper Music
Cumbria UK
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