not so for heavy duty live usage since the connectors on the pcmcia card is way too fragile. > Probably one of the best bits of kit I have ever bought!!! > Especially now they have rock solid drivers on OSX also. > Cheers >> I am considering getting a a hammerfall multiface digital processor. >> Is it >> still useful with a g4 or g5 powerbook computer, what do you think?

I am running into some funny problems. I copy and pasted some zones and groups from other instruments and corrected their keyswitching SELECT BY parameters so that I have control over their selection. However it turned out that all of the samples assigned to the groups beyond the 64th one on the list were not sounding. I had a total of 66 groups so 2 groups in total were not sounding nor would they show up on the editing keyboard in the EXS editor as being played when I was playing them. maybe this is a 64 Group limitation? Well I got around that with some nifty regrouping and got the same thing happening on 54 total groups. Only that same darn two groups still would not sound. It was like they had a memory that they were from the "over 64 group limit" or something. This was true after relaunch, reboot, and changing of all EXS settings. Weird. Still as yet unsolved. I did however notice that a few, maybe one or two samples/zones, in each of the non sounding groups were sounding, and furthermore, just a few (actually 3) zones/ samples were not sounding on one of the groups that was in the "fully" sounding category here. I noticed I have a total of 2,211 total zones at this point. I wondered if maybe the reason I am not hearing some notes is because there are too many zones? I tried to test this theory by deleting some of the sounding groups and the zones they pointed to, to bring things down to like 1500 zones. I saved and loaded the instrument across a relaunch, but there was no change to the non-sounding groups even though now there was significantly fewer zones, AND groups. it seems there is some kind of zone/group memory that is saved in-state no matter if they qualify for different status, for instance from when you delete some zones/ groups to make room for them to sound. CAN ANYONE JUST TELL ME AY EXPERIENCES THEY'VE HAD WITH ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS? Whether positive or not? (and I wasn't yelling, just speaking a little louder.) :) Thanks, Evan Evans

I made a startling discovery moments ago. Depending on how you SORT your ZONES, will result in which zones play and which zones do not play. There seems to be a range where zones do not play from. I am working on pinning it down. If this is true than it seems to be a bug. It could be kind of Aliasing in the scientific sense of the word. In other words if you have 2200 zones, and there can only be 2048, then 152(2200-2048) from the max of 2048, or 1896 either sounds instead or doesn't sound. Whatever it is it's darned hard to figure out. i am trying to figure out the rhyme or reason to it now. Evan Evans

I think I've traced it down to you cannot have more than 32 Zones in the same physical location (same note). It may be that you can have an unlimited number of groups, but it seems you cannot have more than 32 zones per note setup, even if the zones are never all sounding at once, or are conditioned by groups. I thought a recent release did away with the 32 Zone/Group limit? I guess it was just the 32 Group limit. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks, Evan Evans P.S. Sorry that my messages are not wrapping properly. i am not sure why. I have tried posting both with wrapping on and off. Hmm.

Hi, Is it possible to controll any EXS paramtere shortcut-like? E.g. setting the Transpose exactly with +/- 12 semitone with its dial using mouse on the EXS interface is a bit awkward and slow. Thus I would like to use a button on the computer keyboard to transpose up and down the instrument with 12 semitones. Is it possible somehow? If not.. are there any other solution for easy remote controll of the Transpose paramter? Like with pitchbend? Thanks, B.

And again Hendrik Jan, thanks for your time. > I wonder what happens if you would do this: take some of the > noise-causing samples and use some 3rd party sample editor/converter > to convert the files to aiff format (yes, I know they're already > supposed to be aiff's, but maybe there's something wrong with the > format -- header info or whatever). Do you have a suggestion for any program in particular? Rob

On a fine day, 30-12-2003, baci_king wrote: >Is it possible to controll any EXS paramtere shortcut-like? > >E.g. setting the Transpose exactly with +/- 12 semitone with its dial >using mouse on the EXS interface is a bit awkward and slow. Thus I >would like to use a button on the computer keyboard to transpose up >and down the instrument with 12 semitones. > >Is it possible somehow? No. you can't use the computer keyboard to control faders, buttons and the like (one of my big wishes for when (if?) the environment finally gets its much needed overhaul). >If not.. are there any other solution for easy remote controll of >the Transpose paramter? Like with pitchbend? You can use any MIDI message to control almost anything in Logic. If you use LA6, you can use the new Quick Automation Access (or whatever it's called) to assign some controller (like modulation wheel) to some button or fader. Unfortunately you can only use /one/ controller for /one/ parameter this way. If you want more flexibility and want to use several controllers to control several parameters at once, you could download my autodemo.zip (from the Logic section of my website) which demonstrates in 4 tutorial songs how to do track-based automation with external controllers. If you don't need m,uch sophistication, you could also create a new fader in the environment (audio mixer, in the window's New menu) and cable it into the mixer strip containing the EXS. Set its Out parameter to the proper Fader event (see my autodemo on tips how to determine which settings you need for which parameter). Then just drag the fader up and down. Even though this might seem to do nothing more than duplicate the functionality of the 'built-in' EXS fader, this is not quite true. Using an environment fader allows you to set e.g. a limited range, or to use a button instead of a fader to quickly switch between 2 preset values. Enough choices, me thinks... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

On a fine day, 30-12-2003, robcatlender wrote: >And again Hendrik Jan, thanks for your time. > >> I wonder what happens if you would do this: take some of the >> noise-causing samples and use some 3rd party sample editor/converter >> to convert the files to aiff format (yes, I know they're already >> supposed to be aiff's, but maybe there's something wrong with the >> format -- header info or whatever). > >Do you have a suggestion for any program in particular? I suggest we take this to private mail. We both being Dutch, it's easier to deal with this in out native tongue, I guess :-). -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

I appreciate that what for me is ethnic is to someone else their own - but I'm sure you'll know what I mean! I am looking for some EXS compatible samples of Indian / African / Arabian type sounds, particularly string and blown instruments. I have found a few but they appear to be mostly loops and phrases, so not that useful for putting together one's own melodies - what I really want is single note samples. Any recommendations folks? (UK availability a plus!) Many thanks Nic

World wind by Ilio. Very decent stuff. Louis

Hi guys, I'm a complete newbie to the EXS24 (got it around a month ago), my free factory disk has just arrived and I've tried installing in order to load all the relevant samples and I keep getting an error message that it cannot detect a copy of Logic on the machine. I have Logic 5.5.0 on a G4 (dual proc) mac which works without any issues. Has anyone had this before or can anyone assist? rgds Tee

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>>On Dec 26, 2003, at 15:23, David Wilson wrote: >>My problem is the EXS doesn't see any instruments now. I thought it >>was because I was running up against the "too many instruments" problem that I read about here recently, but >>that's not the case. I reverted back to the original factory instruments only, still no instruments seen by EXS. >>So what am I missing here, and how do you elegantly move instruments and samples in and out of the sampler instruments >>folder for different projects if there is a cap on how many instruments you can have loaded at the same time? >>ESX24 Manual is really thin on info. >On Dec 28, 2003, at 11:48 AM, eurotrash96 wrote: >Don't know if this will help, but I'll put it out there anyhow... I think you have to have: >"/Library/Application Support/Emagic/Sampler Instruments'" as a link >to your actual Sampler Instruments directory... Do you mean put the sampler instruments and the samples in "/Library/Application Support/Emagic/Sampler Instruments' I've always had them in applications/Logic 6 series/Sampler Instruments Which is where they are when installed. Didn't find anything in what passes for a manual that they need to be moved to the library. I'm sure this is something elementary I'm missing here. I'm pulling my hair out trying to get logic relinked to the sampler instruments. Someone mentioned the Redmatica EXS manager - does that actually find problems like this and move or instruct you to move instruments/samples to the correct folder? When I use project manager, it sees the instruments and samples, no red cursor to suggest the link is broken. The instruments are located in: applications/Logic 6 Series/Sampler Instruments/EXS instruments/#Factory Instruments/ I did Refresh in the EXS window, still no instruments - is there another step I don't know about to have the EXS see the instruments? Logic 6.3.2 MAC 10. 2.6 Dual 1.42 EXS24 David Wilson Artist in Residence in Lighting and Sound Spingold Theater Brandeis University Waltham MA 02454 USA

>I appreciate that what for me is ethnic is to someone else their own - > but I'm sure you'll know what I mean! I am looking for some EXS >compatible samples of Indian / African / Arabian type sounds, >particularly string and blown instruments. I have found a few but >they appear to be mostly loops and phrases, so not that useful for >putting together one's own melodies - what I really want is single >note samples. Any recommendations folks? (UK availability a plus!) Take a look at: Heart of Asia Heart of Africa I have Roland S760 editions which can be easily converted for EXS24 use. Both by Spectrasonics (USA) - probably available in the UK too. Regards - Colin

Gramophone wrote: > World wind by Ilio. Very decent stuff. Also Quantum Leap Rare Instruments. Info & demos at http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=QLRIGIG

On a fine day, 30-12-2003, Tee wrote: >I'm a complete newbie to the EXS24 (got it around a month ago), my >free factory disk has just arrived and I've tried installing in order >to load all the relevant samples and I keep getting an error message >that it cannot detect a copy of Logic on the machine. I have Logic >5.5.0 on a G4 (dual proc) mac which works without any issues. Has >anyone had this before or can anyone assist? That's a known problem with the factory installer. It's looking for an application called "Logic Audio Platinum" (old name) instead of Logic Platinum (new name). So if you temporarily rename the Logic application by adding 'Audio' to it, the installer should find it. If that doesn't work: you can "install" the samples by simply copying them off the CD to your hard disk. Then all you miss are the instrument files (.exs) which I could send to you if you want. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

>> I' ve made a new instrument with a sound of the EXS standard >> -samples. And >> also other instruments with AIFF files. >> I found out that there appears to be a difference between a >> aiff-file (which gives problems all the time) and a aif-file (which >> works fine). I thought it was the same thing. > > It *is* the same thing. The 'aif' or 'aiff' is just a file extension > (like in DOS) and has nothing to do with the actual format of the > sample. > >> Could this be part of the trouble? >> How do you advise to handle this? You would think they were the same, wouldn't you? However, I have also noticed this odd behaviour sometimes in other applications - .aiff extender = noise, .aif plays back fine. If I remember correctly, simply removing that extra 'f' was sufficient to cure the problem. Peace Guy Hatton XLR8 Recordings http://www.xlr8-recordings.co.uk

On a fine day, 31-12-2003, Guy Hatton wrote: > > It *is* the same thing. The 'aif' or 'aiff' is just a file extension >> (like in DOS) and has nothing to do with the actual format of the > > sample. > >You would think they were the same, wouldn't you? However, I have also >noticed this odd behaviour sometimes in other applications - .aiff >extender = noise, .aif plays back fine. If I remember correctly, simply >removing that extra 'f' was sufficient to cure the problem. What??? If this is true (which I suppose it is -- otherwise I would accuse you of lying, which I wouldn't want to be caught doing :-), this is completely ridiculous... The filename shouldn't matter at all (of course). Oh well, I guess this fits in nicely with stuff like the EXS factory disk installer not finding Logic if it doesn't have 'audio' in its name... Sigh... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Hi everyone, Is anyone using Panther with Logic 6? Any issues? I'm about to upgrade and had a vague recollection that someone was having some problems...has Emagic worked it out? Thanks in advance. julie

Mark wrote: > Because I'm still working in LAPW 5.5 (P4/2.4/1GB/2x 20" LCD) I > don't know if I should save my money for a G5 and a Cinema display > or if a dual G4 will provide plenty of breathing room. Can anyone > help me out? I would plan to sell my Dell system to re-claim some > of the cost. I work in Logic 6.3.2 on a dual 1.25GHz G4, most of the time I am under 30% CPU with fairly complex arrangments, but I have maxed it out with one song (12 audio tracks, hundreds of audio files, 5+ virtual instruments, maxing out the CPU on my UAD-1 card, LOTS of insert effects, auxes sending to auxes, extremely dense MIDI data). It's powerful, but probably about the same as your P4/2.4, not worth the switch unless you want to use OSX (which I highly recommend, I love it). By the way, if you want to get rid of those two tiny, useless 20" LCDs, I'll take them off your hands... :) -smeet

> Hi everyone, > Is anyone using Panther with Logic 6? Any issues? I'm about to > upgrade and had a vague recollection that someone was having some > problems...has Emagic worked it out? Thanks in advance. > > julie Hi Julie, No problems here, although 6.3.2 might not be as CPU efficient as 6.3.1. Of course, I was running flawlessly under 6.2.6 also. -smeet

On 12/31/03 10:53 AM, "Julie Larson" <julielarson@...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > Is anyone using Panther with Logic 6? Any issues? I'm about to > upgrade and had a vague recollection that someone was having some > problems...has Emagic worked it out? Thanks in advance. > > julie > > It's working fine on my Mac. Seems to have no trouble with pretty much any plug in that I have installed (I just got every Waves plug in there is...) I'm also having no trouble with ReWire applications. Panther seems to be actually much better than Jaguar. What computer do you want to run this on? Eddie Sullivan Integrated Midi Systems The Stony Brook Technology Center 21 Technology Drive E. Setauket NY 11733 180 344 6434 X 108

Thanks Eddie, I'm on a tiBook with a 1ghz processor and a gig of ram. I haven't had many CPU issues with this setup...at least nothing that freezing tracks here and there wouldn't cure. I don't use that many audio tracks...but I use a ton of EXS instances...often as many as are possible...for orchestral arrangements and the like. Smeet thought it was a little more CPU hungry...anything like that for you? thanks so much... julie On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, at 10:18 AM, Eddie Sullivan wrote: > On 12/31/03 10:53 AM, "Julie Larson" <julielarson@...> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > Is anyone using Panther with Logic 6?  Any issues?  I'm about to > > upgrade and had a vague recollection that someone was having some > > problems...has Emagic worked it out?  Thanks in advance. > > > > julie > > > > > > It's working fine on my Mac. Seems to have no trouble with pretty much > any > plug in that I have installed (I just got every Waves plug in there > is...) > > I'm also having no trouble with ReWire applications. > > Panther seems to be actually much better than Jaguar. > > What computer do you want to run this on? > > Eddie Sullivan > Integrated Midi Systems > The Stony Brook Technology Center > 21 Technology Drive > E. Setauket NY 11733 > 180 344 6434 X 108 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ >             &nbs p;             EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > > <image.tiff> > > <image.tiff> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > • To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/ >   > • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >   > • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. >

Hi Julie and Eddie, Just to be clear, I meant that 6.3.2 is more CPU hungry than 6.3.1 or 6.3, but overall, panther is actually less CPU hungry than jaguar was. Have a happy new year... -smeet >Thanks Eddie, >I'm on a tiBook with a 1ghz processor and a gig of ram. I haven't had >many CPU issues with this setup...at least nothing that freezing tracks >here and there wouldn't cure. I don't use that many audio tracks...but >I use a ton of EXS instances...often as many as are possible...for >orchestral arrangements and the like. Smeet thought it was a little >more CPU hungry...anything like that for you? > >thanks so much... > >julie > >

Thanks a bunch...I'm going to dive in. julie On Dec 31, 2003, at 8:49 PM, Sumit Das wrote: > Hi Julie and Eddie, > > Just to be clear, I meant that 6.3.2 is more CPU hungry than 6.3.1 or > 6.3, but overall, panther is actually less CPU hungry than jaguar was. > > Have a happy new year... > >     -smeet > > > >Thanks Eddie, > >I'm on a tiBook with a 1ghz processor and a gig of ram.  I haven't had > >many CPU issues with this setup...at least nothing that freezing > tracks > >here and there wouldn't cure.  I don't use that many audio > tracks...but > >I use a ton of EXS instances...often as many as are possible...for > >orchestral arrangements and the like.  Smeet thought it was a little > >more CPU hungry...anything like that for you? > > > >thanks so much... > > > >julie > >  > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ >             &nbs p;             EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ:http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > • To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/ >   > • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >   > • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. >